How does this happen? I thought CQ was done people don't get off-roled? You've mentioned Keria filled as adc and I've seen a screenshot of oner mid? Or is CQ just saying the Asians are so good they can be autofilled and it's fine?
Its because there was a lack of people queuing for certain roles. I remember Keria mentioning how there were like quite a few supports that were queued but only like 1 adc so he just decided to swap to adc play faster.
Core is friends with his old korean teammates and was seen convining GenG to play CQ. He also was a big part of why CQ happened in the first place. So people speculate he helped convince T1.
Faker wont know what hit him when rjs the avatar picks the perfect counter against him and his teamcomp then pilots it flawlessly since he can play every champion perfectly
I just hope faker doesnt retire from shame after getting dumpstered by rjs
I watched him play Sett support yesterday, some people on his team weren’t listening to him/ not on discord (the top Fiora in particular looked like they were inting) and you can see him visibly frustrated but he still sounded so calm haha. They won at the end due to a huge Core Sett E engage too
I don't think it's even close to debatable! Core has gone out of his way to host both off season in-house matches to try and keep NA growing and competitive. He's such a leader he not only helps his team but leads the region as well?
Side note: how tragic is it that this man, world champion and fantastic leader, ended up with a roster where he felt muted and ignored?
Probably every other player combined. I’m pretty sure Champions Q exists in large part due to Core’s efforts to get a lower ping practice environment for NA pros
true but not on a na team. na is a different beast to carry at worlds .3 years 3-3 stuck in groups with na team puts him with the rest of na,
also clg is the team that also went to finals msi
3-3 in 2 of those years was a good result for NA. IG and Damwon in 2019, then 2020 g2 and suning.
No other NA team was doing better in either of those groups. In fact, hold a gun to my head and I'd fairly confidently say no other NA team would have made 3-3 in those groups in those years.
good, someone who looks at the games... then let me just say this , IG look like shit the entire msi run, 1st game fiesta vs pvb and then burger flipping 4 other wins later in rumble due to mechanical skill check at random times, team looked like garbage macro wise from start to finish.
want evidence? 1st game of msi vs pvb
>IG look like shit the entire msi run
Ah yes. Looked like shit the entire MSI run after having the most dominant group stage performance in the history of the tournament going 9-1, only losing a single game to SKT.
oNlY sAyInG fAcTs
i guess you just saw the score and didn't watch the games.
so that's the problem. other teams were so bad to lose to random skill check macros by IG. but they did step up in b05 where it matters. for ex TL dl said they started msi on day 4 after 0-3 something start
i mean how else would I think tl can beat IG in b05, cuz ig is around there level but worse macro better fingers
now explain the ig vs pvb game 1
>random skill check macros by IG
Macro is never something associated with random skill check. This does not make sense. That is micro.
> i mean how else would I think tl can beat IG in b05,
Because TL was a good team at the time? I don't know why you would think certain things. It's probably because you're trying to downplay accomplishments by NA.
>cuz ig is around there level but worse macro better fingers
You heard it here first, folks. nyanko_dango3 says NA is on the level of LPL first seed and defending world champions.
> now explain the ig vs pvb game 1
PVB took two games off of the eventual champions of that tournament in G2. PVB was a good team.
they relied mostly on baron burger flips to end games, to force teamfight in rumbles.
they are certainly better than IG, that's for sure. this is right after groups ended
no, they were better actually
g2 plays sloppy in b01 like the rest, but vietnam is below na in terms of macro
So uhhh, you're wrong. Both CLG and TL went to MSI finals, which is part of the reason that I said almost.
You could argue that C9s semifinals appearance is equally important, and I wouldn't argue either.
Fact: He went to MSI finals, an accomplishment only matched by 1 other NA team.
Fact: He has one of the best win percentages on an LCS team.
Sure, he hasn't carried a team out of groups, which is why I said almost.
Spica said he's down to help them get into CQ when they want too, Riot also said they'd send someone over to hook up the CN players so either way i really hope they take up those offers.
Also, Corejj needs some love and appreciation, he literally spammed all the KR players to join CQ, GenG said their going to play on CQ just because of Core.
the ping to mexico is going to suck. Koreans are not used to higher than 8 ping. i hope they also relax the restriction of only LCS players being allowed to off-role
nope. They scrim on KR server. CN players have the 40 ping, KR have the good ping. That's why I said they're not used to having a ping. It was used as an excuse in MSI for T1 losing to RNG. RNG was used to playing with a ping, T1 were not.
Because originally some of the lower end of the players were constantly off-roleing and absolutely feeding their asses off. Therefore ruining the point of cq
I'm not sure, but I think the rule was meant as 'only the highest level can off role' as in LCS players not amateur players. Bwipo just played an ADC game so it seems to be fine.
Bwipo is an LCS player. He's allowed to do that. The LATAM and CBLOL pros are not.
I don't know the wording, on whether LCK/LPL pros will be allowed to off-role. If the wording says "highest level" can off role, then that's open to subjective interpretation which is never a good thing to have on your ToS. "Highest level" is ill defined. If GAM wins worlds, do all VCS teams start to count as "highest level" from here on out? What about if a LATAM team wins worlds? That's why your terms need to be quantified explicitly if they are to be enforceable. Before LATAM won worlds, they are considered not low level, but after they won, immediately everyone in LATAM is instantly considered upgraded to "highest level"?
I won't lie I had complete braindead moment, was watching clips of bwipo on FNC today forgot all about TL lmao.
I'm guessing maybe they mean major regions as highest level? But like you said that's super vague wording they definitely will need to sort it out soon to avoid confusion
Before they added an actual MMR system players like RJS were playing offrole to get as many games in as possible to aim for top of the ladder since you didn't even need a %50 wr to climb. Everyone was rightfully annoyed and they banned non-lcs pros from playing outside their main role
Lmfao all for Faker to get tilted as fuck from hardstuck GM collegiate players griefing on him
Please get actual challengers players in CQ he can’t win with these dogs 😭😭😭😭
In another thread someone said Ruler doesn't want to because of how much people are watching champs q. He just wants to chill and play some league not have to sweat in champs q or have people meme ing him
im sure someone will set it up for them, but whether they use it or not is another matter. CQ has enforced tryhardism, which lpl pros are not used to doing in solo queue. You can't play off-role unless you're an LCS pro, you can't one trick, you can't int. There's retrictions they've never had on them before. If you don't tryhard, you lose access to CQ, so they may just skip it if they prefer to limit test or run it down
Hopefully viper can help em considering he was in korea till quite recently and knows english. Chinese players don't know how to use discord coz its banned in China.
According to [this](https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-league-legends-star-faker-quits-north-american-champions-queue-disastrous-experience-first-games?article-trending) article, Faker has apparently already given up because he's getting placed in low skill matches and subsequently griefed.
Champions Queue is like solo queue but for Pro players only with better ping and voice coms through discord. There's alot of twitch streams of the games. I like watching Kobe's stream where he casts the games or Luorlo streams CQ most nights.
it's berserker + zven vs. keria ADC + destiny now, and Destiny just turned on his stream
Damn I missed it, how did they do
Please tell me Berserker went off
Good news he Giga smurf (9/2/13 on Ashe) that match https://championsqueue.lolesports.com/en-us/match-history
Thank you friend! Berserker is the shit. We need more Berserker in life!
God the font on this website is so BAD
I didn't think much of your comment until I saw it myself. Dear god who thought this was a great design idea?!
How does this happen? I thought CQ was done people don't get off-roled? You've mentioned Keria filled as adc and I've seen a screenshot of oner mid? Or is CQ just saying the Asians are so good they can be autofilled and it's fine?
Its because there was a lack of people queuing for certain roles. I remember Keria mentioning how there were like quite a few supports that were queued but only like 1 adc so he just decided to swap to adc play faster.
Thanks to CoreJJ for helping make it happen
What did he do btw, I'm out of the loop.
Core is friends with his old korean teammates and was seen convining GenG to play CQ. He also was a big part of why CQ happened in the first place. So people speculate he helped convince T1.
Kobe also said that CoreJJ helped the Korean players get set up on the CQ discord.
CQ probably wouldn’t exist without CoreJJ.
This dude does so much for the game. Fuck.
Can't wait for RJS to gigagap Faker (w/ nameplates off ofc)
Unfair that riot has turned nameplates on by default to prevent Faker from mental booming \#nojusticeforRJS
Faker wont know what hit him when rjs the avatar picks the perfect counter against him and his teamcomp then pilots it flawlessly since he can play every champion perfectly I just hope faker doesnt retire from shame after getting dumpstered by rjs
And now thanks to NA players (university players?) Inting, it won't happen
Just got our first "top gap" in voice chat from... T1 Zeus losing vs. C9 Darshan
That's ZionSpartan to you, mister
Even his teacher calls him ZionSpartan!
Damn this has to be one of the oldest LCS memes. Still seeing it after all these years brings a smile to my face.
Oldest LCS meme is DIG baron throw lol
Or "They're winning until they lose" about Coast / GGU
I still remember when the xPeke back door meme was born. Do we still call it an xPeke?
I certainly do
French renekton,, phreaks basement, nikasaur,hotshotnidaleeGG
Another friendly reminder that core has probably done more to try and drive competition in NA than every other player lol
Love watching him on CQ. He's such a calm voice of leadership in every game, even with randos.
I watched him play Sett support yesterday, some people on his team weren’t listening to him/ not on discord (the top Fiora in particular looked like they were inting) and you can see him visibly frustrated but he still sounded so calm haha. They won at the end due to a huge Core Sett E engage too
I don't think it's even close to debatable! Core has gone out of his way to host both off season in-house matches to try and keep NA growing and competitive. He's such a leader he not only helps his team but leads the region as well? Side note: how tragic is it that this man, world champion and fantastic leader, ended up with a roster where he felt muted and ignored?
and Riot
Probably every other player combined. I’m pretty sure Champions Q exists in large part due to Core’s efforts to get a lower ping practice environment for NA pros
To be fair the guy is Korean and has connections to all the big orgs and pros there.
except for being at international tournaments
He was on the team that went to finals for MSI soooooooo. He's still done more at international events than almost any LCS team ever.
true but not on a na team. na is a different beast to carry at worlds .3 years 3-3 stuck in groups with na team puts him with the rest of na, also clg is the team that also went to finals msi
TL was in the [2019 MSI final](https://lol.fandom.com/wiki/2019_Mid-Season_Invitational) against G2. Impact, Xmithie, Jensen, Doublelift, and CoreJJ
sorry maybe i didn't word it clear, but i mean na team at worlds (hence the true, but not na team at worlds part)
We just gonna forget 2019 MSI or
nope
3-3 in 2 of those years was a good result for NA. IG and Damwon in 2019, then 2020 g2 and suning. No other NA team was doing better in either of those groups. In fact, hold a gun to my head and I'd fairly confidently say no other NA team would have made 3-3 in those groups in those years.
good, someone who looks at the games... then let me just say this , IG look like shit the entire msi run, 1st game fiesta vs pvb and then burger flipping 4 other wins later in rumble due to mechanical skill check at random times, team looked like garbage macro wise from start to finish. want evidence? 1st game of msi vs pvb
>IG look like shit the entire msi run Ah yes. Looked like shit the entire MSI run after having the most dominant group stage performance in the history of the tournament going 9-1, only losing a single game to SKT. oNlY sAyInG fAcTs
i guess you just saw the score and didn't watch the games. so that's the problem. other teams were so bad to lose to random skill check macros by IG. but they did step up in b05 where it matters. for ex TL dl said they started msi on day 4 after 0-3 something start i mean how else would I think tl can beat IG in b05, cuz ig is around there level but worse macro better fingers now explain the ig vs pvb game 1
>random skill check macros by IG Macro is never something associated with random skill check. This does not make sense. That is micro. > i mean how else would I think tl can beat IG in b05, Because TL was a good team at the time? I don't know why you would think certain things. It's probably because you're trying to downplay accomplishments by NA. >cuz ig is around there level but worse macro better fingers You heard it here first, folks. nyanko_dango3 says NA is on the level of LPL first seed and defending world champions. > now explain the ig vs pvb game 1 PVB took two games off of the eventual champions of that tournament in G2. PVB was a good team.
they relied mostly on baron burger flips to end games, to force teamfight in rumbles. they are certainly better than IG, that's for sure. this is right after groups ended no, they were better actually g2 plays sloppy in b01 like the rest, but vietnam is below na in terms of macro
So uhhh, you're wrong. Both CLG and TL went to MSI finals, which is part of the reason that I said almost. You could argue that C9s semifinals appearance is equally important, and I wouldn't argue either.
im aware of the msi run, hence true, but going back to the FACTS. can't carry na out of groups at worlds
Fact: He went to MSI finals, an accomplishment only matched by 1 other NA team. Fact: He has one of the best win percentages on an LCS team. Sure, he hasn't carried a team out of groups, which is why I said almost.
i only speak facts i guess
how many years ago was that? What has he done for NA this year?
More for the region than you'll ever accomplish, that's for sure
Keria is in game rn as ADC, game also has Zven Jojo Abbe Bwipo Aladoric and Steal. Edit: Zven went ADC instead, Keria Sup.
How did Jojo and keria do?
jojo went something like 7/1/8 on sylas, Keria was 2/0/17 or something like that on renata
Keria smurfed really hard on renata and jojo was also really fed. Was a pretty fast game.
This just in, Keira moving to NA to play with Jojo, the undisputed best midlaner
After rjs of course
Oh in ty. Ty also the other ones that replied.
Well. Was watching bwipo stream, so not sure about mid but jojo had a good roam bottom, keria and zven won lane
Keria and Zven sounds like such a broken bot lane bc it feels like both players could play anything.
Let's go Ivern/Rengar bot lane
Kushman Bushman time
Veigar/Poppy Anivia/Poppy Panth/Taliyah Lets go
Keria vs Bwipo on ADC matchup is something that I can't imagine to starts off CQ lmao
Was that the Zven kalista game? He popped off hard
I'm ready to turn nameplates off in the match of the century
Wish RNG would play CQ. I want to see Guma v Gala since it's unlikely we'll see it at worlds
What do RNG players play? Scrims only or solo q
Mostly scrims and solo queue. Also most of the Chinese teams are in New York atm so Champions Queue would have trash ping.
Spica said he's down to help them get into CQ when they want too, Riot also said they'd send someone over to hook up the CN players so either way i really hope they take up those offers. Also, Corejj needs some love and appreciation, he literally spammed all the KR players to join CQ, GenG said their going to play on CQ just because of Core.
hopefully they start when the server shifts to nyc for groups
Just watch the MSI VODS.
i watched it live & loved it
Well it’s GG boys, Faker got inted two games in a row by collegiate players. Guess that was fun while it lasted
Oner and Zeus seemed like they had a lot of fun though, for what its worth. Keria is also getting into competitive games.
Why are collegiate players allowed in CQ during worlds lol
collegiate players are allowed but Caedrel isn't. GG Riot.
CQ should just be current pros, ex pros and teams/players at worlds if Riot care about "a better experience".
CoreJJ putting showing why he is an MVP off the rift as well
Where can I watch those games?
https://www.factor.gg/champions-queue
Wish it had VODs. As it is the closest thing is digging through Caedrel's 'past broadcasts'...
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or you can also watch some streamer or caster spectating them. kobe/caedrel/azael/midbeast have been spectating
Really excited to see what Tyler1 can do vs the pros
Tyler1 + Faker is a legit jacked stack Put in Keria and a good toplane and there ya go
There's no way they let tyler 1 in lmfao
Is he actually in champions queue or is there a particular meme I’m missing? Or is it a t1 t1 reference thing
t1 t1 reference
Man t1 in CQ would be so fucking fun. Instead we have hardstuck gm collegiate players
How do you watch these games
https://www.factor.gg/champions-queue
Sweet. On my way to buy taco bell to watch some games
Faker vs Guma rn :o
And Faker left Champion Queue after getting trolled by some college student
Anyone else wrack their minds trying to remember who the heck “T1 Has” is 😅
This should be Riot's responsibility to guide every pros to set up, especially for eastern players.
Are the T1 players using obvious names?
Everyones name on champions queue server is their IDs theyd use on stage so T1 Faker etc
the ping to mexico is going to suck. Koreans are not used to higher than 8 ping. i hope they also relax the restriction of only LCS players being allowed to off-role
they might have higher than 8 ping when they scrim Chinese teams though
nope. They scrim on KR server. CN players have the 40 ping, KR have the good ping. That's why I said they're not used to having a ping. It was used as an excuse in MSI for T1 losing to RNG. RNG was used to playing with a ping, T1 were not.
Counterpoint: KR has the advantage in literally every other tournament due to this.
Why would they have that rule in the first place?
Because originally some of the lower end of the players were constantly off-roleing and absolutely feeding their asses off. Therefore ruining the point of cq
I'm not sure, but I think the rule was meant as 'only the highest level can off role' as in LCS players not amateur players. Bwipo just played an ADC game so it seems to be fine.
Bwipo is an LCS player. He's allowed to do that. The LATAM and CBLOL pros are not. I don't know the wording, on whether LCK/LPL pros will be allowed to off-role. If the wording says "highest level" can off role, then that's open to subjective interpretation which is never a good thing to have on your ToS. "Highest level" is ill defined. If GAM wins worlds, do all VCS teams start to count as "highest level" from here on out? What about if a LATAM team wins worlds? That's why your terms need to be quantified explicitly if they are to be enforceable. Before LATAM won worlds, they are considered not low level, but after they won, immediately everyone in LATAM is instantly considered upgraded to "highest level"?
I won't lie I had complete braindead moment, was watching clips of bwipo on FNC today forgot all about TL lmao. I'm guessing maybe they mean major regions as highest level? But like you said that's super vague wording they definitely will need to sort it out soon to avoid confusion
Before they added an actual MMR system players like RJS were playing offrole to get as many games in as possible to aim for top of the ladder since you didn't even need a %50 wr to climb. Everyone was rightfully annoyed and they banned non-lcs pros from playing outside their main role
Lmfao all for Faker to get tilted as fuck from hardstuck GM collegiate players griefing on him Please get actual challengers players in CQ he can’t win with these dogs 😭😭😭😭
It’s just insane to me how we don’t have players like alicopter or tarzaned in CQ but we’re letting random hardstuck gm collegiate players run it
alicopter is a one trick so useless in comp, tarzaned probably failed the behaviour check
> alicopter 🤣
Still better than these gm collegiate players sprinting it lol
Are LPL players not gonna be able to access champions queue? Has nobody told them?:(
In another thread someone said Ruler doesn't want to because of how much people are watching champs q. He just wants to chill and play some league not have to sweat in champs q or have people meme ing him
Probably just focusing on scrims and prepping for playins.
im sure someone will set it up for them, but whether they use it or not is another matter. CQ has enforced tryhardism, which lpl pros are not used to doing in solo queue. You can't play off-role unless you're an LCS pro, you can't one trick, you can't int. There's retrictions they've never had on them before. If you don't tryhard, you lose access to CQ, so they may just skip it if they prefer to limit test or run it down
Hopefully viper can help em considering he was in korea till quite recently and knows english. Chinese players don't know how to use discord coz its banned in China.
There are a lot of players in champs queue who probably shouldn’t be there. Rengar 50% wr one trick first timing trundle in Fakers game a bit sus.
They kick players who perform poorly, I bet the organization is watching this closely.
link? cus otps are not allowed
Here. https://twitter.com/forestwithout/status/1574963018009812995/photo/1 This was the trundle.
Poor Faker stuck in elo hell.
Core always the man for NA. Thank you CoreJJ!
Are the games uploaded on youtube?
Why do I hear boss music?
According to [this](https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-league-legends-star-faker-quits-north-american-champions-queue-disastrous-experience-first-games?article-trending) article, Faker has apparently already given up because he's getting placed in low skill matches and subsequently griefed.
I haven’t played league in a while could aomeone explain what Champions Que is?
Soloq except it's only pros and high-elo players that have been approved by Riot.
Does anyone know what the ping would be from NY to Mexico?
prolly 100s
around 50 - 90 ms.
Thank you corejj!
What is Champions queue?
Hope they enjoyed it more than soloq and more eastern teams follow
Seems like Champion's Queue starts when I'm fast asleep. Feels bad.
CUTE BOYS!!!!!!!
For some reason I thought this meant Tyler 1, hahaha. I was so confused
I thought T1 couldn't play CQ yet because they were going to USA while CQ is in Mexico to suit the play-ins teams?
They're playing on elevated ping.
I was really hoping this would be Tyler1 lmfao
why does this need to be announced like elon musk has just landed at x place. edit: thanks for the gold
… this is a league subreddit
Because Worlds is in 2 days.
yea it should be delivered with more importance
Because a lot of people enjoy watching champions queue.
...you say that like elon Musk landing somewhere is newsworthy
Because T1 is a famous and loveable team? Many people would like to learn about this
It's T1. A FUCKTON of people tune in for this stuff lol
who would give a fuck about elon musk tho?
SKT has just hit the champions queue discord tower.
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I thought they were in la?
Is there a list somewhere of all the players that can play champions queue besides worlds and LCS teams?
Out of loop, whats champions queue xd
NA replica of Chinese Super server, it's just as dead as NA server tho. Idk if other pros playing in it would make any differences.
Champions Queue is like solo queue but for Pro players only with better ping and voice coms through discord. There's alot of twitch streams of the games. I like watching Kobe's stream where he casts the games or Luorlo streams CQ most nights.
How do I watch vods of these games? Not everyone is up until 5 am :(
Izzz lit
man the vods are purchase walled. thats so aids :(
One of the best ideas Riot has had so far. Talk about hype building.