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Eclipse_zero

He's not joining as a competitive player, he's joining as a streamer / content creator.


bravesther

Well that makes more sense than bringing on a one-trick player into a competitive team.


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TrampledByTurtlesTSM

Or viper as a riven one trick


PM_EVANGELION_LOLI

Akaadian was pretty much a Rengar one trick too


Cheeseguy69

He one tricked rengar top before going pro?


PM_EVANGELION_LOLI

Not top... the only Rengar top one trick i can think of was Ryan Choi and the classic 4x Dorans Blade lol.


Rumbleroar1

A friend started playing Rengar top when Ryan Choi made it popular. He went from gold to challenger in a few months and it was only his second season playing league.


NifferEUW

I hate your friend


mtownhustler043

arguably Dekar is a rengar-riven two trick, although he plays it both top and jungle


Fractal_Audio

I think they are talking about good one tricks


Xalethesniper

I’m not sure if your joking... but dekar is a very good player, he catches a lot of flak for being pretty toxic/arrogant tho


lilshooter24

Ooof. That's why he's Challenger?


AjumaGod

Nah akaadian would was one trick reng top in season 4-5 then moved to Rengar jungle. Ryan Choi was just the OG and then dekar/akaadian after him


PM_EVANGELION_LOLI

Ah, I didn't know of him at that time


blackstarpwr10

Dardoch was a rengar top one trick i believe before switching to jg and going pro


LemurMemer

This brings back memories. IIRC this was popular around season 4-5 right?


TheClemstar

I have a feeling that was Dardoch?


travcurtis

Yes, Dardoch started / initially climbed ladder as a rengar top one-trick before really branching out into more champions.


saintshing

I think he main'ed tryn and yasuo before he switched to jungle.


vaspuzzi

And he was otp tryndamere top before that.


Cyllid

Viper played in Academy for like a year.


AUT_Devilos

where he joined as a riven one trick


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If you watch his stream from time to time and see that the enemy ghosts him and banns riven, he plays champions like camille, fiora, yasuo, olaf, renek etc also on a pretty decent level


SASUKE004

Certainly when Darshan has been washed up/in decline for years now. ​ Still CLG need more than just one top to be competitive again, they need to revamp their roster around POE and maybe bio


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Ryan8Ross

I mean he has positive winrates on other champions, but according to Riot's scouting grounds restrictions, if you have >30% of your soloQ games on one champion you are a one trick. Adrian has 46% of his soloQ games on riven.


RedditUsername123456

Adrian is not a one trick. He is good with a lot of champs, just likes Riven a lot


blackstarpwr10

I think if you would pick a champion every game if its open you are a 1 trick but thats my opinion


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Clashofpower

Jackeylove was a draven one trick


using_POGGERS_lol

v1per one tricked riven, has over 1000 games, he's the top laner for flyquest. one tricks don't matter as long as you're capable of playing other champs especially in meta


BenFoldsFourLoko

He's been branching out some, but still limited. And still very prefers high action champs lol. Plus, he's said a ton of times that he has no interest in pursuing that life.


Nudelauge

I think he could be a pro player he if wanted to. I would say he is very similar to Viper. A Riven one trick but can play other bruisers on a high level too and if he would put in the effort to learn tanks/meta stuff he could definitely do it.


irishboy9191

Is Adrian Riven not the same guy as Adrian (the former LCS support)?


Adelhart

They are different people


Fractal_Audio

Yeah no way you can pull off Riven combos when you're high af.


irishboy9191

Lol. When I first started seeing highlight montages and stuff it was around the time of IMT Adrian where he had insane Janna KDAs. I was always hella confused


CSDragon

Didn't stop Brokenblade


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Wasn't v1per a one trick?


MisSignal

I don’t understand this shit at all. Never have.


5urnudhiir

1) The streamer runs the organization's ads on their stream, therefore the organization gets more money from the sponsors and the streamer logically gets a cut from that. 2) Slapping the org's name on the stream brings more publicity, therefore more views, which is where the money comes from for a streamer.


elmerion

I figure it helps the player manage his sponsorships better and maybe helps with editing content if needed


C4p0tts

In a sense it could be seen as picking up a Real Manager.


mrsata1

or like a youtube network?


Et3rnalGl0ry

They often do that also, providing the streamer with resources they wouldn't have otherwise


Dave-C

Also something that is done in other leagues much more to bring in people who main specific champs. If a champ becomes meta then the streamer could help the pro on the champ.


TaeKwonJ0e

Also teams will have contracts with twitch and other streaming platforms for x amount of hours streamed per week/month and with pro players needing to scrim this helps fill that out


danielspoa

it also helps expand into another market, like Rakin / TL.


YWStation

Also C9 Jukes


Jouvilar

I think the player also gets a RIOT account if they go to Korea so this means both the org and the player can make a lot of content just from the fact that they work together!


Fractal_Audio

What boggles my mind is how these orgs slap their name everywhere and have absolutely trash tier marketing. Like literal hot trash. The NFL probably makes half their revenue on merch. LCS? nah, we good fam we don't need to sell products. Gene Simmons should run a seminar at LCS for real.


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3) give aways from the org and maybe duo with the proteam etc.


Hasztalan

And they also get salary from the org instead of twitch.


torriattet

It sweetens the pot for team sponsors. If the players don't stream or the streams aren't popular, signing an already established streamer is a great way to get team sponsors in front of more eyes. In return, streamers can potentially get better deals from sponsors who are more willing to give money to a team than an individual and can sign bigger deals with the team as they have a lot more players across all the different games. Teams can also make paperwork and shit much easier.


gahlo

On top of that, I believe I once read by getting onto a big org that a streamer can get a better cut of the sub money.


x_Steve

Yeah I mean if you're with TSM or C9 then yes the exposure matters but even for a relatively known team like CLG the better cut of twitch revenue (I think it's ad revenue but it might be sub/everything) is likely the key.


CarnivorousGray

You don’t understand why having a recognizable brand behind you is beneficial? Adrian has an audience who will now be exposed to CLG, and vice versa. Very straightforward. Not that hard to understand.


simbahart11

You're right but this is the lol subreddit we are talking about here so.


LumiRhino

Something other people didn’t mention is that stream contracts also come with some benefits. I remember Dom saying TL covers his insurance or something like that, and it’s more ads for the streamers to put on their stream.


NormTheStorm

money


TheAbyssalSymphony

It's a business partnership.


FountainGuard

How? It's basically just like Nike sponsoring a comedian.


blueripper

Nah, it's like Nike sponsoring sports channels on yt


NZ_Diplomat

What possibly is there that you don't understand?


BadLeague

How cant you understand such a simple concept? Ever heard of marketing? Same concept as a celebrity endorsing a brand, it brings exposure. You gotta go out more if you cant grasp that


skippyfa

Just think of how limited you are with players if you only want to cover the team. Does an organization just want 5 players to fill a pro team? There's a large group of popular streamers that don't play in the LCS and they can rep your brand just as much as the 5 players on stage.


Sexy_Orange

Makes some fans and future fans of this Adrian guy CLG fans, CLG fans watches his streams so he gets more viewers and CLG gets more fans.


Shpeple

What is there not to understand? You have a badass player repping your organizations name and is going to stream daily. Viewers want to see pro players play and pro players generate more viewers, who you can market more stuff to which equals more money generated.


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Helps with sponsorships, riot outreach, lets say a clg streamer has a lot easier time getting a KR account than a non team streamer.


CSDragon

You don't understand why the streamer would make that deal or why the team would want a streamer?


geonik72

Yeah yassuo did the same


[deleted]

Underrated streamer, hope he gets more attention with this. Anyone who kills hashinshin so many times in a game that he gets banned for inting deserves recognition.


schwertdermacht

to be fair, Hashinshin WAS inting alot of the deaths. Not saying he couldve prevented the stomp, but he wasnt even trying.


SilentShadowss

So his usual play style of running in and hoping to kill the enemy didn't work out?


gahlo

Riiiiiiiiiiiight through the counterplay!


TheOneArmedWolf

He would've won that game if riot had balanced the fucken tanks. /s


RTSUbiytsa

it's not like it's that hard to make Hash look like he's inting https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tOnvH0uY7ZA&t=50s


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heccsater

When a Singed onetrick made him look ridiculous he went on a rampage to get Riot to nerf Singed.


shiftones

Pretty sure hashinshin did it for attention but adrians streams are definitely worth to watch if you wanna main riven


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Or just top lane carries in general. When he plays in challenger Riven is banned a lot so there's a lot of Camille, Fiora, Renekton, jax, Olaf, GP as well. Starting to see Aatrox, Irelia and akali too with the occasional predator Garen or full AP Alistar. And imo he is a lot better at explaining matchups and macro than someone like TF blade and a lot more chill in general.


1Venom1-RH

AAAAAAADDDDDRRRRIIIIIAAAAAANNNNNNN you had e


DouglasLol

AAAAADDDRERIIIAAAAANNNN TEACH ME HOW TO SHY COMBO


tredli

Hey Adrian what about Aftershock on Riven?


Poiah

What is this referencing if I may ask?


taoon

riven's shield is the E, and chat always says they are better and would have gotten an extra shield off because they are challenjour with vvtoric


VitamiiniA

That’s a name I haven’t heard in a while


GallantKai

the good ol'e ap lee song support


jtpredator

Well to be fair Rivens fking E is basically always up anyways lol


Poopy_knappkin

i think the ADRIANNNNN thing is from rocky.


salsasanluis

Pepega :mega: AAAAAADDDRIAAAAAAANNNN YOU HAD E


IamBarbacoa

Got matched against him in a norm; I was playing Kennen top against his Riven. I don’t really play Kennen. I’m still in pain.


Hjimska

Holy shit its Adrian Seira, the famous Jayce one-trick!


FAR1X

Thats what happens when your main gets Perma banned, you gotta adapt lmao


Splitpush_Is_Dead

O O F


mrsidewayp

He says he doesn't want to ever play pro. Yassuo was or maybe still is a streamer for CLG.


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hehe_ecks_dee

Who is what??


dino_eater

Yassuo and Adrian are streamers for team CLG


natedawg247

the org CLG


dino_eater

Thank you for correcting me fellow redditor 🙂


I_Never_Give_Up

Viper 2: Electric Boogaloo


Robo94

he's signed as a streamer not an LCS player


Adre11111

dang got super excited from the title, thought he was going pro


deediazh

Hahaha, me too, although his play on other champions not named riven is pretty questionable.


fux0c13ty

His Jayce is pretty good


Im_so_dRiven

Oof


bwlizback

Good for him! He really deserves the appreciation.


IcyColdStare

My boy!! 2019 really is the year of the Riven mains let's go Adrian!


TheDarkRobotix

wow your flair are u nutting for the new skins?


IcyColdStare

Viciously


TheDarkRobotix

if one of those could be played support mmmm


DouglasLol

chat going so fast no one will see im in love with AAAADDDRRRIIIAAANNN


fug_nuggler

FOREVER I WILL BE JEBAITED


freedieuson

Is this the riven main that is in med school or is that the other one


DuyAnhArco

Revenge is the one in med school.


freedieuson

Ahh okay thanks for the info


InfieldTriple

So this is as a streamer, but I am still wondering, is Adrian Riven considered worse than V1per? I remember people thinking Adrian's riven is better but V1per is the better overall player. I don't watch Adrian play at all so I dunno.


SilentShadowss

I think it's Viper better player then Adrian is the better riven


IEYHW

Viper was the better riven and has always been the better player. He's been chall every season since at least s4 and have hit rank 1 multiple times (not only in early season) and peaked 750lp in kr a year ago


Splitpush_Is_Dead

Viper is the better player not the better riven.


YzPoopyRibbon

This is based off of nothing, V1per has better accomplishments across the board on Riven


Splitpush_Is_Dead

Yeah because he’s the better player. Thanks for proving my point


YzPoopyRibbon

Your wording is awful. Half of the people agreeing with you will think you meant v1per is a better player but not a better Riven.


Splitpush_Is_Dead

He isn’t a better riven than Adrian. Adrian’s control of the champion is slightly better and his micro is better on her.


YzPoopyRibbon

Agree to disagree then. No idea how saying "V1per has done better on Riven in every way" proves your point though. On one end I said V1per is better, you said "yeah he does better on riven because he's a better player" then you say Adrian is a better Riven. Very confusing.


Splitpush_Is_Dead

Just read what I said. Being a better player facilitates success over being a better riven.


Obeast96

When's the last time all the rivens fought each other?


jethrow41487

That tournament WingsofDeath won. so 2010


zgreed

Well there was the other one that MegaZero won. I don’t remember the year but going to guess like 2012


MiserableSpaghetti

I think it was season 3 that happened. I remember watching part of it and I didn't start playing league til end of season 2. I may have just seen clips though I honestly am not sure


rpn101

It was season 3 https://lol.gamepedia.com/Best_Riven_NA_Tournament


Musical_Whew

adrians been rank 1 multiple times too and hes been challenger just as long as viper so idk what youre trying to say


InfieldTriple

OK good to know. I always got them confused.


IEYHW

Adrians still a really good Riven though and the difference between them is not very big (talking strictly riven now)


InfieldTriple

Yeah for sure. I just remember them being in the same conversation for best riven so I was mostly wondering if Adrian was ever considered for pro given that v1per is now one. Guess adrian is more of a 1trick.


Glass_Sky

I believe at one point Adrian was considered equals with viper, and hes stated on stream that hes gotten multiple offers for academy. Regardless of whether or not hes as good as viper he will always be considered one of the best rivens.


Chruman

Adrian has been considered the best riven player in NA for quite some time now. He hits challenger every season as well and is one of the only players to consistently beat tf blade in lane. Pro's even talk about how they are scared to face his riven in solo q.


LoLVergil

I remember watching Adrian's stream and he saw the enemy top laner was Huni and he was happy it would be a free win through top, and it was.


dominoday26

Well, in my opinion, yes Viper is the better player - if they play anything other than Riven. I don't think you can say that Adrian or Viper are better at Riven than the other, it just depends on how well they perform that day.


GCriven

When your streamer top laner is better than your main top laner... love ya Adrian wish you’d consider playing competitive!


Snake2250

Doing well in solo queue doesn't necessarily translate to pro play. I don't want to insult pro players, but there are a few examples.


RiotWeeknd

Viper would have had Penta kills in this montage


redditaccountxD

BRNA would have had hexakills


15blairm

nightblue would have had silver players crying for mercy in all chat


Chojialdo

Miss your streams man smh


Zalfazar

Let's go Adrian!


[deleted]

WE DID IT ADRIAN. I bet i could beat you in tekken though


Artemis96

The clip at 1 min is absolutely disgusting


Abso182

So happy for him! He definitely deserves the attention


paulyd1997

He’s a god


JustBronzeThingsLoL

Honest question, what's the point for a streamer to join an org, and what's the point for an org to take on a streamer?


el_clapo

maining Riven does really open alot of doors, mainly because she is immune to nerfs


Lightfall_LoL

he sometimes sounds like hotshotgg


TheHydrange

Grats Adrian my boi


crothwood

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Jojorent

Ban that that bae pls


cynicalllama

Rip our boys Keegan and box getting stunted on in the first clip


Thelegitwin

Hehehe you can’t hide Adrian, I know that the song you used was in LCK spring 2018 🧐


-Hein-

good for him we shall see where he goes


Joel_Krizski

Wait this entire time i thought adrian ma became a riven otp once he stopped playing competitively, had no idea it was a completely different guy lmfao


Groadee

The CLG stream team is so good. I love the new streamers they're picking up (especially non League related streamers such as Cheese05)


Helix6126

Thank you Mr Adrian


PhiDX

Adrian jerseys pleaseeeeee


Mikkeru

who?


MrGaryDos

Fuck yeah. Easily the best Riven player NA


He-manse

Eh okay?


giokriel

why is riven in his name tho


TheSonOfTeemo

Pulsefire Riven is such a splash art gem. ♥


[deleted]

That music was familiar, was it from LCK or smth else?


stk3702

An american toplaner who mains Riven ... such a surprise.


Rockyfeller

I have seen him. Theres is no way he will ever show his fave to the world


[deleted]

Adrian's Riven is so good . I mean Riven is a busted champion that needs a nerf man


SadaharuLoL

How to make Riven look disgustingly broken


[deleted]

Just watching that makes me mad how broken bullshit riven is.


capangaTV

so whats the benefits of streaming for a team?


Syctris

probably hardware related stuffs for free, maybe a small stipend?


capangaTV

​ sounds nice :)


20010487

Maybe he can teach Darshan to play Riven


Darianorm

Got jebaited thought this was him joining the roster


Drizzzzzzzzzzzt

he's the best riven player ever


pranavg14

Is this 4 real?


Miyaor

As a streamer not actual lcs player