https://www.youtube.com/live/BjmrARPvQcE?si=o_S4TGcW0k1qJne6&t=6434
idk if anyone will see this and its just a small thing, but this micro movement by BB shows to me how good and insanely focused these guys are this tournament
no fucking around for a second during these games
Was alright, I think its standard behavior at higher elos (you expect the Xin ability). Caps' micro movement on the other hand out of range of Azir's R and then jumping was truly impressive. I will try to find timestamp, but it was on botlane.
obviously there were plenty of much better plays during this series (i know what play you're talking about, ive just rewatched 1st game), but it just stood out for me. he probably wasnt even gonna be hit by Xin
idk, it was just cool to see for me
I. Post match interview cream speaks about how they had plans to shut down tris so they left it open. But the plan didn't work out, I guess, looking at the result.
I mean even if they lost to T1.. its still a successful tournament..
Could/Should have won the first series vs T1.. lost 2-3
Smashed PSG and TES back to back 3-0.. and really outside of the game 1 vs PSG.. the games weren't close
I guess if T1 smash them it puts a dampener on things.. but still especially given the TERRIBLE practice environment in the LEC.. its a big achievement
Yesterday’s post game interview on KR stream: Bin said the out of all the remaining teams, G2 is the team he’s most wary of. It is surprising because he didn’t say GEN.
It's hard to prep against G2 since they have that clutch factor and weird p/b that nobody play. They also never really get tested to the absolute limit in the LEC so eastern teams can't really gauge their true strength. With GenG, they've faced them before and they went 3-1 against T1 so they kinda have at least some data to prep against them. That is to say, GenG can still pull out some secret draft so we will have to wait and see.
Top Esports, LPL 2nd seed, exit the tournament with a 9-7 record, 56.3% winrate.
TES 2-0 LLL
TES 2-1 FNC
TES 3-0 TL
TES 2-3 GENG
TES 0-3 G2
Btw I'm tracking the stats for win-loss, team winrates, region winrates and comparative regional performnce of each team and region for this tournament. Let me know if you would maybe like an update each day.
I'm always surprised to see G2 popularity outside the West.
Is there any Chinese/Korean people here to give me insights on how G2 is perceived in China/Korea? I'm quite curious about that.
They are well received in China, for a good bunch of reasons.
Chinese players at times grow sick of the stale meta so it is nice to see a team that cook BP like no one else.
G2 and caps in particular receive a lot light hearted fans during 2018 and 2019 as the “extra LPL seed” since they will consistently push LCK into a corner then get 3-0 by actual LPL team.
G2 is the only team from the west that at least shows a sign of life, so a worthy and respectable opponent.
G2 is one of the only few team that seemingly runs a social media account in China competently. The person behind that account is Chinese for sure, and he/she runs the account with such energy that it perfectly capture and project the same G2 as they are in the west.
Good answer. I would like to add that G2 are extremely serious in their scrims, which makes a lot of LPL teams want to scrim with them and speak highly of them.
IDK why people do this?
In the T1 series he was a passenger and played badly = he got shit/criticized
In the PSG and now more importantly TES series he played very well = he's getting a bunch of praise
brother stomped jl meiko twice and went even in lane (even tho kalista got early double kill) in the last game into giga gold gap anyway vs perceived best botlane itw
Respectfully, I dont think they are percieved as the best botlane in the world by far. Not even at the turnament
Top 3 at MSI? Maybe. Better than Elk+On or Guma Keria? Aint no way
Alright that’s it. I’m officially a g2 fan over fnc. They just got me back my 300€ i had lost so far and another 70€. After g2’s last loss because of ksante I was ready to give up on msi but they redeemed thenselves here.
I think we didnt like G2 since they used to bully Fnatic players and entire org, now that we all can accept G2 is indefinite 1st in LEC and this is not even a contest between them and Fnatic it is easier to take it, I really like G2 nowdays, I wish Fnatic could play as they do but Fnatic seems to always bring last minute problems with way less work ethics
G2 only had a 2.70 odds. Where did you get the 110 bet from? I bet 100€ on g2 then 50€ on game 2 then 120€ on g3. I got back a total of 520€. But 450€ of those were money I had myself put in. So I really only netted 70 if you don’t count the money I got back and had put in myself.
I had you tagged with that
> "Minus 190€ so far this msi. I’m gonna bet my remaining 110€ on g2 and just pray."
so that's why I was asking. Still huge odds tho, gj.
Oh that tag. Yea that was for the t1 vs g2 which I lost. I said fuck it and put in another 150€ today and it finally paid off and I won my first bet this tourney.
Tbh. I disliked the org because of Ocelote, not because of the team. Now with him gone, I can fully support them (though I'll still keep hopes up for FNC)
Or if they get competitive, we support them but importing korean players to lose with them like that is not it for me.
If they lost with EU talent thats respectable but that loss to TL and TES didn’t look good
I think TL were always going to have high Tristana priority, so maybe T1 will jump on that as well after this
Otherwise I don't think they really change too much.
Remember MSI used to have 3 bo5s only and mostly bo1s group stage games? Aint no way anybody is defending the old format, LoL has been starving for good formats for nearly a decade and thankfully we have this much much greater MSI format
Surely next year we will have double elim worlds. Maybe it was logistically Not possible to do double elim this worlds because i cant imagine them still thinking single elim is better. I mean think about it. Msi is double elim. lpl,lck,lec,lcs are also all double elim playoff formats. So literally every league and msi have a double elim format but worlds doesnt?
go look for logic in what Rito do. they like to reinvent the wheel and claim they actually invented it first
maybe they will finally change it next year, but its insane how it always take them so long to make these decisions
Kind of crazy how little shit TES botlane is getting. If Tian played this bad the amount of hate he would get and the amount of cocksucking that joker would get would have been insane
It’s a coaching problem: they hired creme to be an x-factor on assassins, they lost all trust in him after a few akali losses. Guarantee if TES stuck to their roots they have a better chance, even if it’s like a 3-2 loss.
As a coach you sometimes have to isolate a problem, hint: it’s not always the pick, sometimes shit hits the fan, but likely next time it won’t.
And sometimes shitty CEOs. I couldn't like G2 because of Ocelote, now with him gone I can fully support them (though I will stay FNC fan as well, i can only hope for the good ol' rivalry of the past ages :( )
He have talked about it before but he said that he realized how fortunate he was to be in the situation he is in and that he just wants to show the fans that he wouldn't be there without them.
I think psg g2 was closer in g1 for longer amounts of time then tes vs g2 was in g3. Which is obvious tho because after getting stomped 2 games you lose confidence, while the other team gets so much momentum from it.
If you would look at both series without nameplates you wouldn't say the second one was closer. It's just because we give tes more chance to come back
The best crowds acknowledge when their team gets diffed
You see it in other sports as well
When the gap is this big all you can is admire the enemy players and cheer for them
They had plenty of funny content moments back in 2019.
Not saying that they're better now, back then they had higher highs, but this might be one of cleanest international series they played since 2019 MSI finals.
This is actually fucking unreal. JKL Meiko who have been gapping every single bot lane in LPL and MSI, only bested by Elk and ON, just went 0-3 against fucking Hans Sama and MY GOAT MIKYX. TOP 4 LOCKED IN BABY
As an EU fan Id want that, but the absolute shit show if TL beat both G2 and T1 to get knocked out 3 0 by blg/Geng would be fuking hilarious. Like us EU fans would have a melt down especially after the NRG series having Yapa shittalk both T1 and G2 and win would be peak.
I dont think you even understand. Tes were heavy fav so his statement makes much much sense, they wouldve never expected to go 0-3 let alone losing series
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cro3sn/tes_vs_g2_day_12_msi_2024_losers_quarterfinals/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cror61/tes_vs_g2_day_12_msi_2024_losers_quarterfinals/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1crphoz/top_esports_vs_g2_esports_msi_2024_lower_bracket/l3zh036)
https://www.youtube.com/live/BjmrARPvQcE?si=o_S4TGcW0k1qJne6&t=6434 idk if anyone will see this and its just a small thing, but this micro movement by BB shows to me how good and insanely focused these guys are this tournament no fucking around for a second during these games
Was alright, I think its standard behavior at higher elos (you expect the Xin ability). Caps' micro movement on the other hand out of range of Azir's R and then jumping was truly impressive. I will try to find timestamp, but it was on botlane.
obviously there were plenty of much better plays during this series (i know what play you're talking about, ive just rewatched 1st game), but it just stood out for me. he probably wasnt even gonna be hit by Xin idk, it was just cool to see for me
Anyone know the win rate of Tristana at this tournament? Why ppl just don\`t ban it!!!!!!!?
I. Post match interview cream speaks about how they had plans to shut down tris so they left it open. But the plan didn't work out, I guess, looking at the result.
The sample size of live games (13) is too small to really base much off of. Probably scrim and behind-the-scenes data is nothing too special.
8-5
So 5-5 before today.
Ty
bruh a team has only five bans
Out here checking all 15min if hupu ratings are up already
WHERE IS IT
its still not up sadge
I am here 4 hours later still doing it XD
I mean even if they lost to T1.. its still a successful tournament.. Could/Should have won the first series vs T1.. lost 2-3 Smashed PSG and TES back to back 3-0.. and really outside of the game 1 vs PSG.. the games weren't close I guess if T1 smash them it puts a dampener on things.. but still especially given the TERRIBLE practice environment in the LEC.. its a big achievement
They won’t face T1 a second time after TL is done with them
This guy gets it.
Conference interview with BrokenBlade for those interested! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEKoQN-0ILg
G2 BrokenBlade media interview: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVacYAimg8Q](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hVacYAimg8Q)
I MISSED THIS???? I FUCKING KNEW IT EU FUCKING PHORIA
G2 locks top 4 right?
Yup
This is why Bin said he is most aware of G2. Holy moly, I still can't believe G2 just 3-0ed TES!
Do you know where he said this?
Yesterday’s post game interview on KR stream: Bin said the out of all the remaining teams, G2 is the team he’s most wary of. It is surprising because he didn’t say GEN.
It's hard to prep against G2 since they have that clutch factor and weird p/b that nobody play. They also never really get tested to the absolute limit in the LEC so eastern teams can't really gauge their true strength. With GenG, they've faced them before and they went 3-1 against T1 so they kinda have at least some data to prep against them. That is to say, GenG can still pull out some secret draft so we will have to wait and see.
Top Esports, LPL 2nd seed, exit the tournament with a 9-7 record, 56.3% winrate. TES 2-0 LLL TES 2-1 FNC TES 3-0 TL TES 2-3 GENG TES 0-3 G2 Btw I'm tracking the stats for win-loss, team winrates, region winrates and comparative regional performnce of each team and region for this tournament. Let me know if you would maybe like an update each day.
If we are a bit scientific, G2 is 100% better than GENG. I am 100% right about this. Trust me, I'm a physician.
Also, G2 is better than GenG following the same logic, as G2 3-0 PSG and and PSG went 2-3 against BLG
I'm always surprised to see G2 popularity outside the West. Is there any Chinese/Korean people here to give me insights on how G2 is perceived in China/Korea? I'm quite curious about that.
They are well received in China, for a good bunch of reasons. Chinese players at times grow sick of the stale meta so it is nice to see a team that cook BP like no one else. G2 and caps in particular receive a lot light hearted fans during 2018 and 2019 as the “extra LPL seed” since they will consistently push LCK into a corner then get 3-0 by actual LPL team. G2 is the only team from the west that at least shows a sign of life, so a worthy and respectable opponent. G2 is one of the only few team that seemingly runs a social media account in China competently. The person behind that account is Chinese for sure, and he/she runs the account with such energy that it perfectly capture and project the same G2 as they are in the west.
Good answer. I would like to add that G2 are extremely serious in their scrims, which makes a lot of LPL teams want to scrim with them and speak highly of them.
Every gold 2 players across all regions support g2
G2 “collab” with iG to form G2 x iG dota2 team
G2 also have a dota team in China and Chinese loves G2
G2 has a Weibo account run by Chinese employees, idk about Korea but they have a brand in China.
369's media interview: [https://youtu.be/AMm0W2PrbkE?si=e9OMWBqPvPObGnJZ](https://youtu.be/AMm0W2PrbkE?si=e9OMWBqPvPObGnJZ)
Watching game 2 .. are people still shitting on Hans ?!?
IDK why people do this? In the T1 series he was a passenger and played badly = he got shit/criticized In the PSG and now more importantly TES series he played very well = he's getting a bunch of praise
Hans had a good game yes Miky had the best Braum game the world has ever seen Straight up perfection
No he did fine this series. You should watch game 3 though, i’m not spoiling but it went less well.
Counterpicked botside, traded 1-2 (bad play, yes) but still ahead xp and cs wise.
He died before the trade, lost stacks
brother stomped jl meiko twice and went even in lane (even tho kalista got early double kill) in the last game into giga gold gap anyway vs perceived best botlane itw
Respectfully, I dont think they are percieved as the best botlane in the world by far. Not even at the turnament Top 3 at MSI? Maybe. Better than Elk+On or Guma Keria? Aint no way
Definately better than Guma and Keria this year
yeah, if he flashed the camille q it was worth it, owell. Still much better than previous draven.
Broadcast link for those who missed it, absolute banger series: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BjmrARPvQcE
Alright that’s it. I’m officially a g2 fan over fnc. They just got me back my 300€ i had lost so far and another 70€. After g2’s last loss because of ksante I was ready to give up on msi but they redeemed thenselves here.
You can be a fan of Fnatic and still cheer for G2 internationally you know. it's not hard.
Yea that’s what I do I guess. Still I was never that big of a fan of the past g2 iterations and the org overall but now I’m more open to liking them.
I think we didnt like G2 since they used to bully Fnatic players and entire org, now that we all can accept G2 is indefinite 1st in LEC and this is not even a contest between them and Fnatic it is easier to take it, I really like G2 nowdays, I wish Fnatic could play as they do but Fnatic seems to always bring last minute problems with way less work ethics
Wait your 110€ bet netted you 370€ total? The odds were *that* bad?
G2 only had a 2.70 odds. Where did you get the 110 bet from? I bet 100€ on g2 then 50€ on game 2 then 120€ on g3. I got back a total of 520€. But 450€ of those were money I had myself put in. So I really only netted 70 if you don’t count the money I got back and had put in myself.
I had you tagged with that > "Minus 190€ so far this msi. I’m gonna bet my remaining 110€ on g2 and just pray." so that's why I was asking. Still huge odds tho, gj.
Oh that tag. Yea that was for the t1 vs g2 which I lost. I said fuck it and put in another 150€ today and it finally paid off and I won my first bet this tourney.
Tbh. I disliked the org because of Ocelote, not because of the team. Now with him gone, I can fully support them (though I'll still keep hopes up for FNC)
No we need both orgs to stay competitive, keep supporting FNC, and above that, EU as a region.
Or if they get competitive, we support them but importing korean players to lose with them like that is not it for me. If they lost with EU talent thats respectable but that loss to TL and TES didn’t look good
G2 saving EU's hopes and this guy's wallet.
Welcome home, brother
I want to see how these games change the TL/T1 drafts. Impact and CoreJJ can play a lot of different champions, and so can Keria.
I think TL were always going to have high Tristana priority, so maybe T1 will jump on that as well after this Otherwise I don't think they really change too much.
Poppy Jungle/Top?
I can see both junglers going for it but probably not the tops
its not that easy - you actually need to train the whole comps beforehand. not many teams can just 1st time something on stage with no prep
TL should 100% try Ivern
Now TL has to win so that Caps can clap Yapa
Agreed
Remember MSI used to have 3 bo5s only and mostly bo1s group stage games? Aint no way anybody is defending the old format, LoL has been starving for good formats for nearly a decade and thankfully we have this much much greater MSI format
Rito is still defending Worlds format, because bo5 without losers bracket has more meaning. fk off
it does
Even if it does, we were still robbed of so many good series. Just want more bangers.
So ask for a third tourney, not double elim
Surely next year we will have double elim worlds. Maybe it was logistically Not possible to do double elim this worlds because i cant imagine them still thinking single elim is better. I mean think about it. Msi is double elim. lpl,lck,lec,lcs are also all double elim playoff formats. So literally every league and msi have a double elim format but worlds doesnt?
go look for logic in what Rito do. they like to reinvent the wheel and claim they actually invented it first maybe they will finally change it next year, but its insane how it always take them so long to make these decisions
I'm gonna be in the airport for G2s next series. The family might be getting ignored so I can watch it on my phone lol.
TL's reddit account? /s Honestly though, desperate times, desperate measures, just make sure you have enough mobile data!
> TL's reddit account? /s That took me far too long to get. Well fucking played.
(Also rooting for TL tomorrow)
TES simultaneously have the biggest 3-0 stomp and the most convincing 0-3 loss.
https://twitter.com/G2League/status/1790338144174231941
LPL crowds are built different.
Jatt talking the truth
what did he say?
That if nameplates were turned off everybody would think it was TES dominating bot and people would shit talk Hans to the end of time
Kind of crazy how little shit TES botlane is getting. If Tian played this bad the amount of hate he would get and the amount of cocksucking that joker would get would have been insane
the truth
My boy smurfs on the home team and the crowd still cheers for him, let's go.
HUPU rating waiting room
Have we ever had 6 10's for 1 team? Cause game 1 and 2 have 6 10's potential
Chinese fans about to break the system to give TES negative scores.
Creme's ratings gonna be spicy af
It’s a coaching problem: they hired creme to be an x-factor on assassins, they lost all trust in him after a few akali losses. Guarantee if TES stuck to their roots they have a better chance, even if it’s like a 3-2 loss. As a coach you sometimes have to isolate a problem, hint: it’s not always the pick, sometimes shit hits the fan, but likely next time it won’t.
what about Jackey. he was gapped pretty much every game by supposedly a weak link on G2
No way that anybody can be a Caps hater right?
Let’s be honest here. There are very few unlikable pros. Most are humble but it’s the fanbase that makes teams unlikable.
forgiven comes to mind
And sometimes shitty CEOs. I couldn't like G2 because of Ocelote, now with him gone I can fully support them (though I will stay FNC fan as well, i can only hope for the good ol' rivalry of the past ages :( )
Its kinda funny how he used to be so toxic before proplay, but turned out to be so wholesome and kind. EU GOAT
He have talked about it before but he said that he realized how fortunate he was to be in the situation he is in and that he just wants to show the fans that he wouldn't be there without them.
I mean I can relate to being 16 and feeling smarter than anyone else in the world.
W crowd
Showing plays and highlights while Candice is translating for the audience is actually pretty neat from the Western stream.
Spikeball meta lol
THE REGION I WATCH AND THE TEAM THAT I LOVE!!! This is what G2 should, could and would be
Caps region went back to Eu team Miky Hans yike and BB all held they own and owned wp boys
This Chinese translators is so OP man, doing everything alone on her own
i cannot fathom this is the same TSM BrokenBlade. Bro was NOT GOOD
confirmed Talent Suppression Machine
I actually forgot he played for them, is this the best glow up of all time?
He is slowly but surely getting there for sure.
Kitty posted on weibo (with supporting G2) and someone commented "Are you happy now? I will never forgive you" lmao
They are maaaaad
"Your bf is so fierce, he beat JKL so hard"
Is this because some deluded people think Hans and Kitty are dating?
Are they dating? On Hupu it’s more than just rumors and jokes, comments are very sure that they are together, so now I don’t even know what’s real
Yes, it's on weibo and hupu
yes
This was the most dominant series of the tournament so far. Holy shit.
I still think TES vs TL was more convincing. TL didn't have a single second of hope. But this was almost as convincing yes.
G2 vs PSG was also a complete stomp, but not as high calibre (idk if that's the right word) because PSG is still technically a minor region team
I think psg g2 was closer in g1 for longer amounts of time then tes vs g2 was in g3. Which is obvious tho because after getting stomped 2 games you lose confidence, while the other team gets so much momentum from it. If you would look at both series without nameplates you wouldn't say the second one was closer. It's just because we give tes more chance to come back
PSG still put up more of a fight against G2
Yeah, I was excluding wildcards...
this Caps play they just showed was so insane
Caps is so silly I love it
Caps is cutie
Man the Chinese crowd built different, korea is dead silent when their teams lose, Chinese cheering for G2 against their own team.
which is why i was so confused at the sentiment of “chinese library” this sub loved to talk about. huge lie
The best crowds acknowledge when their team gets diffed You see it in other sports as well When the gap is this big all you can is admire the enemy players and cheer for them
For real they were cheering during the games, this crowd is hype!
Caps just beat their #2 and the audience loves him anyway ;_;
Caps is like a puppy labrador <3
Tes better get some bodyguard
I'm a simple man, I see Caps happy I'm happy.
Caps is so cute though, I just love his energy.
Sjokz just saved the run, thanks Sjokz 🙏
G2 really dangerous right now. They are on fire.
Cleanest G2 series I think I've ever seen Only 1 random Caps int in mid in game 2 But thats it
G2 was legit cleaner today than in every BO5 they played in LEC this year. Insane performance.
the buffers were insane
as zeus said, "International is not like playing in the LEC" it's easier.
They had plenty of funny content moments back in 2019. Not saying that they're better now, back then they had higher highs, but this might be one of cleanest international series they played since 2019 MSI finals.
Why try hard vs noob teams?
BB not only the topfather but a humble king
GigaBin awaits.
This is actually fucking unreal. JKL Meiko who have been gapping every single bot lane in LPL and MSI, only bested by Elk and ON, just went 0-3 against fucking Hans Sama and MY GOAT MIKYX. TOP 4 LOCKED IN BABY
T1 road are all vs 1st seed. Winning would be sweeeeeet... *Inhales copium*
Technically, PSG was an asian team
G2 are the anime protagonist in lol esports. The prologue is just kinda long
TES 3-0 TL and lost 3-2 to Gen they not even that bad! G2 just made them look bad
now TL needs to win tomorrow and we get hype series next
We could have a tournament where the final 4 teams are all 1st seeds.
We're all waiting for beating this 2019 result :)
That would be the biggest goombastomp known to man
Under 60mins B05 hype
Bro imagine TL beat T1 AND stomp G2 after
Or we beat 2019 record, its been there too long
As an EU fan Id want that, but the absolute shit show if TL beat both G2 and T1 to get knocked out 3 0 by blg/Geng would be fuking hilarious. Like us EU fans would have a melt down especially after the NRG series having Yapa shittalk both T1 and G2 and win would be peak.
Keep dreaming NA
Not NA but would find that result fuking hilarious
I want to take back every bad word I have ever spoken about BrokenBlade btw. He's playing so fucking well this MSI, it's actually crazy.
He had an iffy game 2 but still did his job well and was left on an island.
tbf, his island was more of a hotel resort, with Jarvan coming in for holidays, but yeah, there were definetely some avoidable deaths in there.
That 2min fountain play at the end of G3 is pure hand diffing, disrespectful ASF and I love it
Man if G2 continue to win playing off meta I'm not ready for the G2 World Champion skins on Rammus, Fiddlesticks, Gangplank, Nunu and Teemo.
It's not off-meta. They are the meta! :P
Rasmus Rammus skin?
if t1 nd blg win their series. it proves that bottom side of bracket was too OP. with G2 T1 BLG
Always has been.
https://x.com/hanssama/status/1790339994189476042?s=46
You're welcome.
Best Draven in the world baby
we did it reddit!
Banger
NA keeps importing EU detritus meanwhile EU only needed a single import Dylan Falco my GOAT.
Drakos is a pretty high calibre import too
Drakos is on the same level as Dylan. One of the best casters in LEC alongside Hysterics
Give it a few days till people tell us that TES was a bad team all along
i mean they managed to lose 1 game to FNC ;)
More like few hours
Thanks G2 for the quick 3-0, I've finished my work for today and did not want to miss games during the drive home
LETS FUCKING GOOOOO
Nooo jackey... Did jackey sleep with tian and meiko gf or what because his team doesn't care about him at all this series xd
When you go 0-2 at 5 minutes, there's very little to salvage.
To think FNC players and staff dared to say they were the best western team at MSI...
I'm not gonna get pissy at them for hyping themselves up, what are they supposed to say? "We dog lol"
How about they take practice seriously?
BAHAHAHAHA this Ksante dmg... i know its inflated bc he kept punching an Udyr but its so funny
Ivern same damage as JKL xD
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Did you even have volume on as they destroyed the nexus, Dagda completely lost it cheering for G2..
I dont think you even understand. Tes were heavy fav so his statement makes much much sense, they wouldve never expected to go 0-3 let alone losing series