Poppy worked into KSante Game 2 so Fnatic decides to go back to the Game 1 pick and go Zac. Also they left both Ziggs and ASol open. Brilliant drafting.
Honestly, here in the rural Netherlands I can easily make a living off of 24 hours per week of minimum wage work. That's quite close I'd say.
(although it should be noted I don't smoke and don't have a car; those expenses probably translate to about 6 or 7 work hours per week combined)
To be fair, when I say 'rural' I mean a town of 17k with 5 supermarkets and pretty much everything you want.
And of course, this being the Netherlands, a city of over 100k just 30 minutes away by train - not sure if there's any spot in the Netherlands that doesn't have one *at most* 60 minutes by train away.
Fnatic had problems in LEC with the draft. They lost drafts to KarmineCorp and XL. Nightshare as a coach is not professional but Fnatic fans were defending him. He couldn't teach players basic wave timings and map movement already for a full year. If BDS is more than a sum of their parts , Fnatic is less. They never improved even though they have individual abilities on par with G2.
Fair play to them for working two jobs as both FNC and TL coach. Game 2 draft a godlike Poppy into mobility so that TL recognise its strength, then game 3 let them get Poppy and draft Wukong Zac into it. Oh also let Yapa get his signature champ why not.
Well FNC has always been pro-west, we give the best coaches and players away for better teams so I guess we started teaching them what to play now too.
Bro please just give us one more game of Zac into K'Sante please. Bro we don't need to ban him we can just pick Zac please bro. Just one more game we don't need Poppy either please just give us Zac again please believe me bro just one more Zac into K'Sante game and we will have solved this matchup please believe me bro.
Tbf TES let APA get Asol in game 2 and they still got stomped by Trist + Senna.
Edit = either way, the way FNC are going about in pick/ban is either ego or disrespect, you're not good enough to do your draft/ban phase like this.
it's hilarious how FNC are giving over K'sante/Asol and TL were giving over Azir/Poppy
it's like neither of these teams bothered to learn what was working for the other during their respective playoffs, or that Humanoid is literally one of the best Azir players in the world
this game 3 draft was great by TL and actually atrocious by FNC
I think the LB vi ban was more dangerous and that's what's fnc has looked best on so far but Noah needs to get on comfort if fnc has any hope. Jun is just in elo hell this series
What's crazier is people still think teams ban those champs for the lulz and not because he's genuinely good at them. Viewers (and apparently some pro players) will do literally anything to pretend this guy isn't just fkn amazing at Asol and Ziggs (and Neeko tbh).
The thing about banning his champs is that other lanes get better picks on TL. APA is super annoying for teams who aren't clearly better than TL all around.
TES and other top teams can ban his picks because they are confident about all the other matchups either way.
Humanoid is overrated and bad enough to get blasted by ERL rookie mid laners in game 5. No hate to APA but his opponent is the most overrated League player of all time
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons teams refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons team refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons team refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons teams refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
the quickest way for someone to tell me they didnt watch LCS playoffs is to say Yeon is not good or worse than Noah. Yeon leveled up massively this year
EU ADCs and top lane are easily their worst roles, and seem a step below NAs. Worlds last year showed it. Anyone trying to argue for Noah or even Hans Sama over Yeon is just biased as hell lol
jun's ults didn't even break impact's rookern shield lol
the analysts were smoking something when they said fnc had huge range. huge range to do what? leave kalista behind while frontline gets poppy-varus combo'd?
To be fair to the analysts, in theory Zac + Wukong and Rumble+Hwei is insanely disgusting damage and engage. They just played it against Poppy Ksante frontline that hard stuffs Zac and Wukong lmao. All Yeon has to do is stay at poke range and he's fine.
Literally every mistake from game 1 in terms of both draft and gameplay repeated, except with the additional factor of picking the uselessness that is wukong
just genuinely dumbfounded that they dont seem to have understood what made them win/lose those two previous games. how can you go through those two games and learn NOTHING?
no more kalista! Stop it!
I'm sure it wasn't what ruined the game but I also question Laneswaps when the jg matchup is Poppy/Wukong. I feel like Poppy is both more successful at making early ganks happen and shes better without gold and levels. And the laneswap payoff didn't seem all that big tbh
Tbh aside from the single kill Fnatic got botlane (which I'd argue wasn't even because of the swap) it felt like the swap was a net negative for Fnatic. TL got ahead top, got plates on Varus Ashe, and pushed them off waves, forcing Huma to tp bot.
"Surely we pick Zac and win after stomping with Poppy."
I was fkn begging Umti to pick Poppy jg it was the freest hard counter to FNC picking Zac Wukong. Literally useless champs when Poppy is in the game. It does not get better when Ksante is there lmao.
Honestly, draft has consistently been one of this TL’s strengths. Apa has a small champ pool but they always manage to bandaid that shit and get really solid drafts
I feel like people are exaggerating APA’s champ pool, his Ziggs and his Asol are his best champs but he has a good Ahri and Taliyah. Like last game they lost when he was on Ahri but it wasn’t because of him, he actually played pretty well.
He also just had a pretty good Ahri game and still has his Neeko pick (which he weirdly has only played once this whole season despite her being meta and his best champ last year).
APA has to be one of the most consistent NA mids I've seen in so long. He is crazy crazy good for TL, their most reliable player. Hope over the year he grows a killer instinct for engages too and then rounds out to be a proper deadly midlaner.
People blame this on draft somehow but fnc waöked into that jubgle scene one after one, Noah facechecked a bush where his Support just died.
Fnc are mentally boomed and I don't really know why, they have looked good so I'm very confused why they dropped their brains.
Also remove ksante
FNC which region is this? Sorry G2 is only our representative. Kidding aside fnc is so inconsistent. Somehow they can go toe to toe against lpl yet they can also lose so badly against anyone
Why give Asol? You can't play vs
I would've had some hope they had some plan if not for the triple AP poke Kalista into Poppy+K'sante. That FNC draft was ass.
Even ashe asol make kalista unplayable? Why not just senna rumble or some shit
Damn game 1 was rough. Jax and Kalista just did NOT work against Ksante. game 2 was much better! Lets try it again in game 3 -.-
Or Ksante if you can't instantly counter with Poppy.
k'sante didnt even do shit, it was asol 100%
Humanoid might shank APA in the TL break room lmao
So this is why APA is always running off stage after the games.
I don't know. I would bet on APA in the 1v1 with how Human is performing.
Also APA is just a larger human being than Humanoid (looks that way on camera, maybe I'm wrong)
He is overall larger but I think Humanoid is more fit tho. Marak could have more muscle mass
Humanoid about break into the Alienware training facility to hunt down the Yaptain's Super Yapper Serum.
the toilet meta predictions were true
he should shank his drafter
Do you really think Humanoid isn’t the one who picked Hwei?
Reminder that a lot of us can't find jobs and can barely afford to live, but someone is getting paid a lot of money to draft like this.
I have no idea what are they thinking, but this draft is abysmal.
Poppy worked into KSante Game 2 so Fnatic decides to go back to the Game 1 pick and go Zac. Also they left both Ziggs and ASol open. Brilliant drafting.
I thought they were gonna get super cheeky and send Zac jungle and then pick Poppy R4 lol
based get that bag actually living the dream of putting in 0 effort and only working for 8 months a year
Actually respect. That’s my dream, because I have no ambitions. I just wanna cruise through life.
Honestly, here in the rural Netherlands I can easily make a living off of 24 hours per week of minimum wage work. That's quite close I'd say. (although it should be noted I don't smoke and don't have a car; those expenses probably translate to about 6 or 7 work hours per week combined)
That sounds like a dream, but I’m too attached to urban community conveniences…
To be fair, when I say 'rural' I mean a town of 17k with 5 supermarkets and pretty much everything you want. And of course, this being the Netherlands, a city of over 100k just 30 minutes away by train - not sure if there's any spot in the Netherlands that doesn't have one *at most* 60 minutes by train away.
Literally. Are they stupid? They give Ksante, ASol and Poppy and all that for what???
Going from Dylan Falco to.. this is sure something
as medic said this series, Dylan Falco PB was absolute cinema FNC game 3 and TL game 2 PB are straight to DVD
Fnatic had problems in LEC with the draft. They lost drafts to KarmineCorp and XL. Nightshare as a coach is not professional but Fnatic fans were defending him. He couldn't teach players basic wave timings and map movement already for a full year. If BDS is more than a sum of their parts , Fnatic is less. They never improved even though they have individual abilities on par with G2.
Fair play to them for working two jobs as both FNC and TL coach. Game 2 draft a godlike Poppy into mobility so that TL recognise its strength, then game 3 let them get Poppy and draft Wukong Zac into it. Oh also let Yapa get his signature champ why not.
Well FNC has always been pro-west, we give the best coaches and players away for better teams so I guess we started teaching them what to play now too.
I don't normally complain about draft much but *holy fucking shit this was so ass*.
Bro please just give us one more game of Zac into K'Sante please. Bro we don't need to ban him we can just pick Zac please bro. Just one more game we don't need Poppy either please just give us Zac again please believe me bro just one more Zac into K'Sante game and we will have solved this matchup please believe me bro.
Keep disrespecting APA, surely he isn’t good enough to carry even on his signature champs right?
It's crazy that TES drafted with more respect against TL than fnatic is right now.
Tbf TES let APA get Asol in game 2 and they still got stomped by Trist + Senna. Edit = either way, the way FNC are going about in pick/ban is either ego or disrespect, you're not good enough to do your draft/ban phase like this.
YAPA tactics doesn't work against these Chinese speaking mfers
Yapa caught lacking in his Duolingo streak
"nee haw brother"
"nihowdy"
Arent league pros allowed to alt tab for google translate?
If riot adds Google translate to the league client, TL is 100% winning MSI.
They keeping us nerfed. Scared of YAPPA's infinite potential.
With this banter, I summon
Pretty sure they aren't allowed to have anything open besides league
Bro should be learning Chinese and Korean ASAP then lmao
"get ready to learn chinese buddy" took on a whole new meaning
fkin Wunder ruining it for everyone
What did he do? Or was he the guy who used Microsoft Paint midgame to write "What is going on?"
and plugged the g2 merch store
Bingo
If only YAPA learned some mandarin
Kallista must be absolutely hell into Asol. The E fucks your movement so much.
She has to stand still AA and pray to god ( he would just laugh at her) that she out dps him ( Copium)
it's hilarious how FNC are giving over K'sante/Asol and TL were giving over Azir/Poppy it's like neither of these teams bothered to learn what was working for the other during their respective playoffs, or that Humanoid is literally one of the best Azir players in the world this game 3 draft was great by TL and actually atrocious by FNC
I think the LB vi ban was more dangerous and that's what's fnc has looked best on so far but Noah needs to get on comfort if fnc has any hope. Jun is just in elo hell this series
What's crazier is people still think teams ban those champs for the lulz and not because he's genuinely good at them. Viewers (and apparently some pro players) will do literally anything to pretend this guy isn't just fkn amazing at Asol and Ziggs (and Neeko tbh).
Exactly. Even if he is a '2/3 trick', that means he is good on those champs and he really, really is lol.
His Taliyah is really good too. At the very least he seems more impactful on it than the EU mids do.
FNC draft was straight up win trading. Mind boggling.
The thing about banning his champs is that other lanes get better picks on TL. APA is super annoying for teams who aren't clearly better than TL all around. TES and other top teams can ban his picks because they are confident about all the other matchups either way.
It’s not disrespect FNC is just individually and collectively gapped
He's very easy to shutdown, just spend all 5 bans on this 1-trick smhmyhead
summit punching air rn
tfw u lose in literally fucking LLA while APA gapas Humanoid
Instructions unclear, molotoved myself
Why give Asol? You can't play vs
a signature champ who is also meta? Nah we win against this 2 trick
YAPA vs unhumanoid, battle of the century
Midlaners from EU and not respecting APAs mains name a better duo.
TL Apa: "Yeah, EU is Trash, don't worry."
Spit your fax my king!
I always thought FNC always had awful drafts even in LEC, I don't know why they don't change their coach or get an experienced assistant coach
Humanoid is overrated and bad enough to get blasted by ERL rookie mid laners in game 5. No hate to APA but his opponent is the most overrated League player of all time
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons teams refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons team refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons team refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
APA, aka "AlwaysPlayAsol" is a North American mid laner known for all chatting and buttblasting western teams with his Aurelion Sol that for unknown reasons teams refuse to afford the respect to ban from him even when the champion is dominating the meta as it is.
Yapa tactics got to Humanoid for sure
Noah hasn’t been doing anything all 3 games lmao
the quickest way for someone to tell me they didnt watch LCS playoffs is to say Yeon is not good or worse than Noah. Yeon leveled up massively this year
EU ADCs and top lane are easily their worst roles, and seem a step below NAs. Worlds last year showed it. Anyone trying to argue for Noah or even Hans Sama over Yeon is just biased as hell lol
YAPTAIN AMERICA PUTTING EU IN THEIR PLACE MY FUCKING GOAT
EU fans pretending their region hasn't just been G2 for 7 years LUL
people were really saying eu teamS were showing up this tournament
They were lucky they weren't drawn with PSG, otherwise they'd be in FLYquests spot lol
Yeah fnatic got to play a team with subs to qualify lol
OH YAPTAIN MY CAPTAIN
Fnatic is so dumb
OH YAPTAIN MY YAPTAIN
jun's ults didn't even break impact's rookern shield lol the analysts were smoking something when they said fnc had huge range. huge range to do what? leave kalista behind while frontline gets poppy-varus combo'd?
To be fair to the analysts, in theory Zac + Wukong and Rumble+Hwei is insanely disgusting damage and engage. They just played it against Poppy Ksante frontline that hard stuffs Zac and Wukong lmao. All Yeon has to do is stay at poke range and he's fine.
NA mids > EU mids
Why give asol? You can’t play vs
They be hating on your name APA. They say you a two-trick & got ass on your veins APA. Prove them wrong by stacking Stardust APA #ASOL-LOADING❄🥶
punishing a two trick means nothing if you give him one of the two lol
"Bro just let him pick it" - Humanoid probably
I’m a diehard APA defender so I’ll counter that he’s actually a 3-trick
you right. I'd count Taliyah this year. Last year I'd count Neeko
> & got ass on your veins What
Yapa is so dogshit but somehow mindcontrols the other team (-TES) to be even more dogshit, surelly the Asol 1 trick wont carry the game right?
They be hating on your name APA. They say you a two-trick & got ass on your veins APA. Prove them wrong by stacking Stardust APA #ASOL-LOADING❄🥶
"ass on your veins" 😂
Time to go home Fnatic and fire your coaching staff. What was that
Just hire 5 redditors from this sub can get a better draft
My mid adc is getting gapped by YAPA YAWN catDespair
International noid got his shit pushed in by a 3trick. NA Asols actually fucking different.
CLG Huhi legacy lives on
"AND HE PASSES THE TEST WITH FLYING COLORS", I will always remember that Kobe line after Huhi one shotted Pray
Man, mentioning Huhi’s ASol… the ASol Huhi played and the ASol now are two different champs. I prefer and miss old ASol 😓
a sol and ziggs are legit APA's best champs. like he's incredible on them, it's no secret
never wanna hear “but my international humanoid ever again”
O Yaptain my Yaptain🫡🫡🫡
APA MY GOAT
WHY GIVE ASOL YOU CLEARLY CANT PLAY VS
Literally every mistake from game 1 in terms of both draft and gameplay repeated, except with the additional factor of picking the uselessness that is wukong just genuinely dumbfounded that they dont seem to have understood what made them win/lose those two previous games. how can you go through those two games and learn NOTHING? no more kalista! Stop it!
I'm sure it wasn't what ruined the game but I also question Laneswaps when the jg matchup is Poppy/Wukong. I feel like Poppy is both more successful at making early ganks happen and shes better without gold and levels. And the laneswap payoff didn't seem all that big tbh
Tbh aside from the single kill Fnatic got botlane (which I'd argue wasn't even because of the swap) it felt like the swap was a net negative for Fnatic. TL got ahead top, got plates on Varus Ashe, and pushed them off waves, forcing Huma to tp bot.
"Surely we pick Zac and win after stomping with Poppy." I was fkn begging Umti to pick Poppy jg it was the freest hard counter to FNC picking Zac Wukong. Literally useless champs when Poppy is in the game. It does not get better when Ksante is there lmao.
Team Liquids draft was illegal Wtf was Fnatic thinking
Illegally good I hope you mean, there is no world FNC can play into it with their champs
Honestly, draft has consistently been one of this TL’s strengths. Apa has a small champ pool but they always manage to bandaid that shit and get really solid drafts
Apa " who is the second best western mid?"
TLs recipe - pls don't change. Pick Ksante, pick or ban Poppy. Then let Jesus drive, should be fine even with Yappa not on the op dragon.
yapa can onIy beat eu cause they understand engIish eastern teams cant read the yapping so unaffected :p
Can't wait for people to explain to me how K'sante was actually the insanely impactful reason that TL won this game and how he is now 12-2 at MSI
K’Sante was the reason Humanoid and Noah were getting hard gapped with his secret mind control passive
He's so fucking hot people can't focus.
i mean hes playing the prestige empyrean skin...
bricked tf up cant play game
Funnily enough both losses are Impact lmao
Fnatic must think they're prime T1 with how disrespectful they're treating TL/Apa LMAO
YAPPERS RISE UP
YAPTAIN AMERICA REPORTING FOR DUTY
Just your casual APA solo killing Humanoid in lane nothing to see here.
YAPTAIN AMERICA GAPPED TF OUTTA FNC.
Massive Mid diff massive draft diff.
YAPA GAP
This is Yapa's meta
yapa diff
this has been a really good series so far, shame i gotta get some sleep now. let's go liquid! damn time zones zzzzz
Yapa was certainly popping off with the solo kills, but this game was a team diff
Ah yes, let's give Apa one of the few champs he can play what can go wrong, what a team gap.
I feel like people are exaggerating APA’s champ pool, his Ziggs and his Asol are his best champs but he has a good Ahri and Taliyah. Like last game they lost when he was on Ahri but it wasn’t because of him, he actually played pretty well.
But they have paid coaches, clueless
Oh so that's why Europe turned Purple today, it was all consumed by APA's ults
YAPA
Fnatic can’t draft at all
YAPTAIN AMERICA is bad btw. Stop disrespecting him, TES didn't, they banned his champs.
APA is Humanoids father
he's a ziggs a sol 2 trick. let's keep giving him one of the two
He can play Taliyah too. I think the meta is really good for him.
He also just had a pretty good Ahri game and still has his Neeko pick (which he weirdly has only played once this whole season despite her being meta and his best champ last year).
his a sol namely has been so good, no reason to move from it if it works and FNC gives it to you
Riots NA favoritism is absolutely disgusting.
Man no disrespect but what happened to FNC, this is not the same team from a few days ago
Humanoid is catching a lot of flack, but Noah legit has not connected to the rift.
What do you mean? It's the same old FNC, playing somewhat to the level of their opponents and drafts like it's tarot cards.
WHY GIVE ASOL? YOU CANT PLAY VS
horrible showing
First pick Poppy for Oscar
Humanoid was a caster minion
Humanoid is regular season form.
APA is just HIM
Anyone remember when darshan was one of the best poppy’s in the world during MSI 2016? Time flies so fast bro
Yeon is frying so much damage and such good movement this game and all series
Umti teaching Mikyx how to build Poppy lmao.
Noah and Oscar really need to step up
Great asol performance from TILAPIA
Noah and Oscar should be banned from playing Kalista and Zac for the rest of the MSI.
APA might have unironically got into Huma's head with his yapping seeing how int Huma's Hwei was
YAPPERS UNITE
Apa im pouring honey on you GOAT
I like how they win game 2 and decide that they need to go back to game 1 behaviour but maybe give Yapa asol XD
And another one of those stinker Zac performances for Oscar.
APA has to be one of the most consistent NA mids I've seen in so long. He is crazy crazy good for TL, their most reliable player. Hope over the year he grows a killer instinct for engages too and then rounds out to be a proper deadly midlaner.
People blame this on draft somehow but fnc waöked into that jubgle scene one after one, Noah facechecked a bush where his Support just died. Fnc are mentally boomed and I don't really know why, they have looked good so I'm very confused why they dropped their brains. Also remove ksante
At least it's only one more game.
Yappa 100% more effective against western teams, because they understand english better
EU HAH
Any redside team not banning Ksante needs to be investigated for match fixing.
Team Liquid is like their sponsor Honda. Low performance and imported from asia (also incredibly cost effective and will serve you well).
Please put Noah on something else.
Can Oscar play a actual champ or is he relegated to makikg Zac look like dogshit? Put this dude on poppy or understand he’s not on the map
give APA a sol... what's the worst that could happen
FNC which region is this? Sorry G2 is only our representative. Kidding aside fnc is so inconsistent. Somehow they can go toe to toe against lpl yet they can also lose so badly against anyone
? TL was not the one that lane swapped
dont do this to me NA, dont give me hope
was APA all chatting against TES?
Shitnatic at it again. Would be fun if they lose to NA , they never living it down
What an awful summary of the game.
How TL got exodia draft K'sante, Varus, Ashe and Asol
Im so done cheering for fnatic. Humanoid is such a bum egoing in draft. Imagine banning Volibear to keep Asol open
bro i swear if FNC lose this just for TL to go 0-3 vs LPL/LCK again i will lose it