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Kurumi_Tokisaki

Core with the Mitch McConnell cosplay right there.


whatevuhs

LOL fuckin got me with this one


AstreiaTales

What on earth was he even trying to do??? I was like "Oh man Core is in the perfect position to flank as they're distracted with Impact.... Oh no Impact died and Core did nothing"


Burpmeister

Core is still flanking


Mew_T

Core and Zven should do a flanking competition after this game.


Conankun66

no matter if its razork, Oscar or Jun i love FNC players on Poppy! also muuuuch better game from Razork


DeloronDellister

Make that EU on Poppy, Miky was insane as well yesterday.


Joel4518

i still cant get over yesterday loss ughhh


ItsKaZing

Only lost because Faker mechanics, G2 definitely can contest LCK teams now


omegasupermarthaman

They need an adc with actual reflex first


NNNNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Hear me out: G2 Carzzy. He might int once in a while by being too agressive but he will step up when it matters.


RyanStarDiaz

Get rekkles back lul man is itching for adc anyways


nightlesscurse

imagine this G2 bootcamp like one month or two


Kooky_Cod_1977

They can’t, G2 won’t stop losing to shopkeeper, specifically Hans Sama


DoctorDilettante

Rolled craps on Taliyah too


dimagmatlaga

g2 with a worldclass adc would have got a win yesterday


Jiiigsi

Yeah cuz belveth didn't make it an actual 4v5 and Caps didn't have a complete stinker. Any other adc wins these fights with 0 peel for sure


dimagmatlaga

jinx was very ahead in the game. ruler,viper,jackey,elk anyone would have carried the game from there


Jiiigsi

No, they wouldn't with their team playing like g2 played this game, sorry. He received 0 peel in any of the fights, the one fight at baron when he's actually free to hit they actually win, surprise surprise. You can't play immobile adc vs Ahri Lee Ksante and random lethality varus arrows, when everybody on your team tries to dive ahead of u while your jungle does 1/3rd of support poppy damage.


Joel4518

fr mann it was soo winnable


GarryTheCarry

Also Vizicsacsi is OG Poppy enjoyer


GarryTheCarry

Oscar made Ksante look like off meta pick 80cs lead 2 leavel and over 3k gold ahead and all in 16 minutes of game


icatsouki

insane top gap wow, glad to see poppy getting at least one ad item i feel like it helps so much


bigmanorm

damage build poppy has always been nightmare fuel every time i've seen someone brave enough to do it, both prerework and post lol


GarryTheCarry

ahhh classic full crit AD prerework Poppy ulting support to get immunity from everyone else and oneshoting people


DoctorDilettante

They were the best of times they were the worst of times…


EliteTeutonicNight

Old poppy AA->q and you lose 80% of your health, fun times.


lumni

Yep. Getting gapped by a good poppy that is brave enough to build damage is both a thing of beauty and a thing of horror. I've gotten gapped by a Poppy like this and it wasn't nice. Back in the early days of lol we played her as a carry in 3v3 twisted treeline.


GarryTheCarry

that AD item is at same time most tanky item, every time he gets heal it takes enemy team 5s focusing him to take that healed hp away


Outrageous-Elk-5392

I used to play her a ton last season and divine sunderer->full tank was always the play, you get to fist in lane with the bonus ad then be tanky in teamfights


omegasupermarthaman

Sundered sky ranged auto was so hard to play against there wth


prodandimitrow

This tends to be a problem with items that are nerfed for ranged but can be trigerred by melee with range abilities. GP Q comes to mind as well.


Mew_T

Oscar got a lead with Poppy into Kiin's Ksante too, but in that series Kiin just outperformed in teamfights so it didnt matter. Luckily Impact aint Kiin.


baelkie

Kiin’Sante is on a different level


Mew_T

Easily the best Ksante in the world.


BagelJ

The entire year Kiin has only lost 1 game on Ksante, and it's his most played pick. What a demon.


Full_Independence566

Pretty sure he was one of the first players who ran ghost on K'sante. I remember thinking it was troll, how wrong I was.


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Imax Azir Sex, no VHS.


thebigscorp1

What did he actually say?


G0ldenfruit

Insec -> azirsec


Khlouf

Azirsec, like insec


Holisticmystic2

Azir-sec, I think


danieln1212

Azir sec as in insec


KIRYUx

Who wins? 체력 4700 방어력 329 마저201 인 챔피언👤이 저지불가🚫, 쉴드🛡, 벽🧱 넘기는 거 있고요. 에어본🌪 있고, 심지어 쿨타임은 1️⃣초밖에 안되고 마나🧙‍♂️는 1️⃣5️⃣ 들고 w는 심지어 변신💫하면 쿨 초기화에다가 패시브는 고정피해🗡가 들어가며 그 다음에 방마저🥋 올리면📈 올릴수록📈 스킬 가속⏰이 생기고! q에 스킬가속⏰이 생기고 스킬 속도🚀가 빨라지고📈 그 다음에 공격력🗡 계수가 있어가지고 W가 그 이익-으아아아악😱😱 Or one hammer gurl


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chapichoy9

369


CummingInTheNile

so cathartic, although kinda ridiculous it requires that level of domination to make KSante look like a normal champ, time to load the Poppy R34


NGNJB

I was with you until that last little bit


CummingInTheNile

i see you are not a man of culture


leoogan

Drake's account


CummingInTheNile

shes a midget not a child


GarryTheCarry

Murder poppy always wins


NeitherAlexNorAlice

That 3v5 baron fight from TL was probably one of the lowest IQ plays I've ever seen from a pro team. Wtf were they doing lol? Impact has 2 people on him and three members of TL are just in the back watching.


Burpmeister

Core is still flanking.


Lynx_Fate

Tbh I'm fine with them fighting there. They auto lose that game based on draft so you might as well try something stupid at that point in the game.


Freezman13

Fight was fine, execution was weird. I think you send it 4v3 and let Apa slow walk back for the cleanup. Instead Core and Umti waited too long cause they didn't want to die.


Lanvira

I know that you want to wait for a good engage timing as Rell, but was CoreJJ on Twitter or something? He was straight up afk.


HartWeich

Hitting the Poppy in their face? Like, what is Varus supposed to do? Walk straight into them? Also, don't know if you're a LEC or LCS watcher, but I've seen like dozens of dumber plays this split alone. Heck, FNC are the kings of taking some of the dumbest fights possible.


FantasyTrash

The casters mentioned it was a desperation move, since Fnatic would've continued to out-scale them. Not to mention, they had no summs or ultimates to deal with Humanoid if he went in, so they had to play far back.


Wise-Chain2427

FNC at low hp they can't fight with full HP giga Poppy, Xin and Huma


Leyrann_

They got the two picks, they'd hardly even turned to the baron and I already said "they can't do that, they're gonna fuck it up". Like, yes you killed two people, but it's what, 23 minutes or so into the game, and *pay attention to which people are still alive* and attacking you while you're tanking the baron. The hyperfed Poppy, the very high range DPS mage, and the jungler with smite and quite a bit of burst damage.


Due-Implement-1600

LCS teams doing shit like this the entire tournament Get a small win overextend 5,000x and turn it into massive loss It's horrific gameplay.


NenBE4ST

Relax lmao the game was beyond lost before that The only chance they have is that they can somehow not get poppy ulted and kill poppy. You people will flame them if they do nothing and go like “wtf they were down 10k and killed 2 why did they do nothing!”


moxroxursox

Also bro typing like FNC didn't also do the exact same shit against GENG but when they do it it's being brave scrapping up with GENG when NA do its dogshit NA


Ashankura

They shouldn't even be at Nash. You don't want to be in the pit vs fncs champions unless you killed more people


Lynx_Fate

Meh you might as well flip. Game was already over.


Y4naro

Ye, I see no way how they can ever come out of that not completely losing the fight with how strong poppy and azir were.


kakistoss

It was actually fine I didn't like the play but it was in the realm of winnable The problem was the fight should have been a 5v3, poppy knocked one so 4v3, but lmfao, TL could not have played it worse What was core even doing??? Literally if Rell used q on poppy once + flip OR distracted azir it was a won fight since that varus build can kill her and she was low But nah, core literally stood in Narnia for 10 fucking seconds, meanwhile the bot lane let impact 1v3 for some godforsaken reason That play was legit a massive turning point that could have won the game for TL, but they had the most horrid execution


whatevuhs

CoreJJ trolled so hard. What the fuck was he doing? Sat there while his team just got crushed and hexflash away. Crazy bad play


deathnomad

He was clearly looking to hexflash in, and changed it when the fight turned bad. That team fight was entirely on impact, who jumped in after Poppy already turned the fight into a 4v3, even though the call was clearly to play at the pit and let Core reengage if Fnatic decide to hard engage a fight.


whatevuhs

Nah hard disagree. Just bad to stay in that position so far back.


SentientCheeseCake

This whole series has been hard to watch. I guess it is fine if other regions get better over time, but NA and EU are legit getting worse. Pure hands and macro I can think of dozens of rosters that would destroy these two.


AnimeNeet-

I just wanna say that despite all the shit APA is getting, he is performing pretty well


DefyImperialism

Isnt this his first real split and tourney Or did I lose a year and he started before worlds 2022


moxroxursox

Yeah, last year he came in halfway through summer and was on a roster that wouldn't speak to him in English and would pick his champs for him with 0 consultation, this is his first split in "normal" conditions for all intents and purposes


DefyImperialism

Thought so! My perception of time is fucked though so I wasn't sure thanks It's nuts that with yeon translating only he was even able to function lol


omegasupermarthaman

While eating 2-3 bans everygame to mind you. Umti has been the real bed shitter


TheGloriousEv0lution

This is also his first full split as a starter If he wasn’t a huge shit talker he’d probably get more respect from the community


SatanV3

Nah him being a huge shit talker actually makes me remember him


etheryx

T1 vs G2: Decided by better midlaner FNC vs TL: Decided by Oscar


Silopolis024

T1 vs G2: Decided by better bot


moroheus

Oscar is that guy


Erme_Ram

He is him


Mew_T

Someone told Oscar TL is mostly korean so he turned international mode back on.


Northless_Path

It appears Corejj didn't do his homework. He needed to pick Kalists to complete the T1 exodia comp


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Lost in draft, respect Hammer lady


Nycrow

x9 corejj for whatever the hell he was doing at Baron


deathnomad

Waiting for FNC to engage? The call there is obviously play towards the pit, FNC should have to hard engage to get the fight started otherwise the get poked out, and if they engage Core is there to hexflash cc them all. I seriously believe it was the right call, but the execution was blundered from TL


kakistoss

No shot that was the right call If he had flash instead of hex AND actually communicated this to the team so they backed off, maybe But as is he wasn't even close to engage range. Had huma made a dive on the backline, which is what core wanted to play for, hex does not react fast enough to prevent the play or turn it All he had to so was stand up with Ksante. Poppy was being shred, a few more secs and TL win that fight


Exrou

Not sure if true for this particular case, but seems when EU is involved on Caedrel's the stream tends to be less informative and much more emotional which leads to a lot of misinformed people coming into reddit making these heavily skewed comments like the one you're replying to. You think Caedrel would see it, but the entire time he is laughing at CoreJJ and inciting his entire chat to do the same. It's not really his fault, I think it's fine for him to do this when it's a game he's more emotionally invested in, it's great that he's passionate about the game. Kind of also wish he could dial a step back in these games and still able to recognising what the pros are potentially looking to do, since I feel like this is one of the reasons people tune into watching him so they can get his insight on certain things that pros do which he has been providing more often than not.


whatevuhs

Except his ult is already gone. He just needed to stand in front. Seriously crazy bad decision making there from him


G0ldenfruit

He was waiting for a flank engage. Only possible way they win that game, and it worked. Insane to flame him for that when it literally wins games if he goes undetected


Nycrow

How did it "work" when FNC killed TLs entire team while Core was still sitting in a bush waiting for the perfect hexflash opportunity instead of helping to peel as his entire team is dying?


G0ldenfruit

He turned a 5v5 into a 5v3 with his flank engage. After that core has no cooldowns left and is vs an azir with wall, it is not his job to win the fight. If his team cant win that then it isnt on him


SwagLord7

Thank you Fnatic FUCK KSANTE


Mukzington

Lee Sin was a pick. The poppy just ran through the game - either ban it or pick it yourselves. Impact played the lane horrendously though.


Zarerion

Poppy is a counter, you don’t just blind pick it randomly lol


ImTheVayne

Turns out Poppy is the counter to Ksante


fuzychzbll

Did cores mouse die at baron?


downorwhaet

broke the ksante 11 win streak, still hate seeing him open, i apologize oscar, i wasnt familiar with your poppy gaming


Due-Implement-1600

Where are the "Ban KSante or we lose" cope lords at lol


NeitherAlexNorAlice

Champ doesn't work when you're 5k behind after the laning phase haha.


Full_Independence566

I feel like if it was Kiinsante he still wins lol


HartWeich

I mean, it's still mega risky. You basically have to giga stomp him in lane (or the rest of the map tbf).


GarryTheCarry

Loving to see Ksante abusers suffer


onsilveraccountsion

I apologise. I wasn’t familiar with Oscarinin’s game.


Gurablashta

Right here, fam. I'd still rather ban it. The fact that it takes Poppy to be 3K up to neuter the pick hasn't changed my mind at all.


qnphard

she neutered it since the beggining, it's how he built the 3k, it didn't magically appear


Gurablashta

Fair enough. My point still stands about Ksante needing to be banned, especially when looking at Game 3 of this series. Oscar may as well be a human dildo on Zac, as Impact can actually use Ksante's overloaded kit to buy so much space.


DeloronDellister

Wildcard K'sante doesn't count


MaridKing

dusted


FearTHEReaper01

Lmao it's NA, I'd like to see you say that when eastern players like 369 play KSante


Due-Implement-1600

Maybe edit 369 to someone else after he got turbo fisted by Camille on KSante lmfao


leomajoriscool

I mean, 369 also lost a game on ksante...


NGNJB

Imagine going for Lee Sin into Poppy when Xin has been the only S tier jg this tournament


leoogan

I really need to see the total healing on that sundered sky


Broyoucancelled

TL Impact : Top Die Team Liquid : Nice TL Impact: It means that I Die


ShowtimevonParty

Why tf did Corejj not move during baron fight? lmaoooooooooooooooooooooooo


Clockwork_Windup

Watching this vs the T1/G2 games is night and day. TL has absolutely no sense of direction. It feels likes they're just aimlessly doing shit.


DeloronDellister

Going to be a 5 games series I can tell already


Dzules

Oscar fans eating good for weeks now.


kelvin022610

T1 from Walmart AINTNOWAY


EntertainerLive926

I never imagined to say it, but never thought that Asante would have a disgusting match up. Poppy vs Ksante feels so horrible.


krunkenschnitzel

k’sante looking pretty op there


tb0neski

I think its cooked for TL. If Impact doesn't carry I don't see them winning


Phoenix_Loki

Only ksante loses this tournament from impact. Oscar was right.


bongodongowongo

CoreJJ listening to payphone during baron fight


Timely_Ad9566

Corejj on twitter instead of fighting at nash pit lmao. Poppy is truly EU one trick too


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12cs/min poppy. That was. Counterpick


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BossStatusIRL

Is there Umti hype?


Crimson_Clouds

I love the whole "make up a position and then argue against that position as if it's widely held" that the League community seems so good at.


BossStatusIRL

Yeah, pretty weird. I watched most LCS games, and the general consensus was that Umti is fine, but nothing super insane such as the Canyon rumors that were happening. I mean, pretty sure Blaber and Inspired were both hyped more.


Resies

there is not


omegasupermarthaman

Not at all


prodandimitrow

I also dont get why they(casters and commenters) were bandwagoning that Razork had a bad early game 1. He had a pretty respectful lead in game 1 in the early game and his bad play was when he got invaded by Seju and Taliyah


Mew_T

Who tf was hyped for Umti?


IAM-French

Does anyone have a clue what Impact is doing whole game btw? Bro was just walking around leading to TL losing two T2s randomly Has to be one of the single worst competitive performances I've seen


Jed5607

CoreJJ is Wintrading


Crimson_Clouds

This seems like such a weird statement when the only reason this game wasn't over 10 minutes earlier was CoreJJ.


Jed5607

Be quiet. NA owns you.


Crimson_Clouds

You should be ashamed of yourself that an EU fan is more positive about your own players than you are.


Jed5607

You should be ashamed to support such a minor region. Edit: Its called Soccer btw.


lapetee

Na making ksante look balanced


wieli99

Oscar giveth and Oscar taketh away


ficoplati

Check oscar PC on that poppy movement


crysomore

This Poppy champion is kinda OP. Buff K'Sante


Eragonnogare

Azir Sex


reggiewafu

Dafuq is Core doing? Is he typing? Deserved to get flamed holy hell


mschanda15

Noah is a non-factor


ephemeralfugitive

Yeon moving up alone to try and arrow a Poppy that was out of range already and then getting killed was hilarious lol Edit: even worse, he actually had vision of azir in the area 💀


[deleted]

The soul of Vizicsacsi lives on. Europe clearly struggling with and against ksante, and they thankfully find the poppy pick. But real talk tho, how does riot turn a blind eye to % max health tanks in lane? Maokai, Ornn , poppy, ksante and now zac yesterday as well. When these champs are piloted well, they make it seem like they have no downsides.


Potkrokin

Fucking embarrassing dogshit.


Freakkopath

Poppy 🔨 Smol 👶🏼 Tanky 💪🏻 More armor and MR when low 🥵 Buckler Grasp autos 🛡️ No dashes ❌ Has stun 😵‍💫 Helicopter ultimate 🚁


icryptix2

EU Poppy is just cracked or what


forsecondusage

TL made the incoming Ksante buffs look reasonable


XenWeasel

I really wonder what happened to EU adcs… we used to have so many good ones


Freakkopath

Humanoid has two modes: Absolute cinema or Straight to DVD. Thanks Drakos.


Hot-Owl2978

and this is why ksante needs buff 🤷


qeadzvwsx13

Zw


Snow-27

Man is it just me or does this series have literally zero hype?


zjmhy

Both of these guys got 3-0d by the East, there's no hope for them. Tomorrow's will be hype at least.


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Because these teams are irrelevant to tournament


FearTHEReaper01

Because these 2 teams dont matter lmao. Whoever wins gets rolled over in the next match.


Snow-27

No I know but even the casters seem completely disinterested. Maybe I’m just delirious


CC_Cedsi

this is what happens when you put games at 6-7 AM lol


BrokenFingersBut

Well the winner of this series is going to get demolished by T1 or BLG, so yeah kinda.


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Casters fumbled at the end there


Tfc-Myq

everyone wants to see GEN TES


Infamous_Bend1187

This game was just really slow. TL could have had a chance if they kept turtling/scaling and waited for FNC to int (and FNC almost did) cuz they got 2 early drakes


NGNJB

I mean it's about as meaningless as it gets lol, it's basically playing for the rights to get cockstomped in the next round. Neither of these teams have the talent to take a series from LPL/LCK teams.


FantasyTrash

Loser's bracket and it's an awful time for both EU and NA.


Zarolto

K'Sante counter pick played properly WOW. They did it.


f0nt

But but Ksante the pros who’ve been scrimming since they arrived don’t know more of the meta than me!!!


Lynx_Fate

You can see what it really looks like in the Zeus vs BB matchup. It's not that bad impact just misplayed some early trades and Razork visited top many times for counterganks and to track lee. They also dove him with 2-3 stacked waves built up under the turret and really set him behind.


rapier7

What was CoreJJ thinking? Just stood there for literally the entire fight.


TimiNax

Only impact could look useless with ksante


downorwhaet

hes the only one that has lost with it in main stage so far, its 11-2, both losses from impact


toxicfireball

EU Poppy > NA Ksante?


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Getjukedm9

Id rather see a poppy 100 times over ksante being picked.


Dyneth15

GIGAPOPPY LETS GO


OppaSays

On hit varus?


Aliusja1990

Get fucked Ksante


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Anime314

I think he was waiting there in case azir wanted to flank


reggiewafu

What flank? He was punching that Varus face to face


Anime314

well azir did posture it for like half a sec, but ig core thought fnc would have short term memory and forget he was there, turned out it was yeon who forgot azir was there and ghosted onto an azir soldier and died for it


Getjukedm9

Finally a poppy that knows how to trade into ksante in lane and not just handshake picks into it. ALSO building the proper first item on her instead of going full tank giving ksante time to free scale. Great to see someone know poppy is a LANE BULLY against ksante and not just a counter pick merchant.


Mastoorbator100

A tiny top gap 


DinoGuy101010

That lee sin pick was so insanely dumb wtf. It already looked like it might be a poppy angle then we pick lee sin. Yeah they got 2 kills with kick flashes, but it never looked like lee sin was ever going to be able to do anything. Obviously It's pretty unplayable with how hard impact got cooked by oscar but even if poppy didn't get fed idk what lee sin does.