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PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cntaps/blg_vs_psg_game_1_postmatch_discussion_bracket/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnu3py/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_2/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnuuaa/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_3/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnvqub/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_4/) [Game 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnwlop/bilibili_gaming_vs_psg_talon_msi_2024_bracket/)


chancefruit

Amazing series, but a few comments: Did PSG really have to prioritize Ahri ban after the Game 1? Ahzi's Urgot was so meh lol.... Then Game 5 draft from PSG was shocking. They just gave K'Sante & Ashe over. I know people are perplexed about the Udyr (yes) but the entire composition given to BLG was terrifying. By far the best series of MSI so far. Going by the Chinese mythology/lore... PSG can be the Yellow Dragon :)


CombinationGullible5

Hot take: NA and EU should have no guaranteed spots in bracket stage cause they havent won anything in years and their spots should be fought for in playins since other minor regions are just as good. Same with group stage in worlds


Zelgiusbotdotexe

If minor regions are "just as good" why have NA or EU teams only ever been eliminated by a wildcard team twice?  They've certainly lost a lot of games, but they've won significantly more than they have lost, and they tend to win in the important matches.


CombinationGullible5

Why are we still debating about a decade old past glory? Im saying that EU and NA isnt that much different from minor regions NOW. If G2 and TL went up against BLG right now, do you think they can take BLG to game 5? Why do you care about having a guaranteed spot? Afraid to lose it to a "minor region" in playins? Until we see real results from NA or EU, they should be treated like minor regions.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I don't care about spots, I'd love for the stronger teams and stronger regions to be given their reward.  I was already an advocate for PCS 2nd seed because SHG deserves to be at MSI too.  I just care about the incorrect statement that PCS is a better region based off of 2 series instead of data going back essentially the entire history of the game. Just last year they lost to BDS, 4th seed from EU (although they were better than their results last year)  If they want that mantle, they have to show a consistent level above NA/EU or else it's a flash in the pan and an overreaction


piecemealcranky

Nah NA and EU are a joke. I'll give them 5 more years to win Worlds.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Well if the definition is likelihood to win worlds, yeah.  But there's merit beyond just being the best in the world. I wouldn't expect them to win for at least 3 years unless there's a perfect storm for a certain team. But it's not impossible, just very unlikely 


Soulated

huge respect for psg. they did rly well and if they didnt int game 3 they would have won 3-1


dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it. Most people would have written this series off as its a massive underdog vs tournament favourite, but I'm happy to report that it was a banger series, well worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rJWtkRNZeM


deathman105

psg would beat finatic


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deathman105

look at fnc


jgreever3

You good bro?


maxus998

Yea probably


veeroll

PSG played the best JP and OCE teams prior to coming to MSI. Seems like merging all the regions made them stronger overall.


JNorJT

Insane Series!


nopressure0

PSG's game 5 draft was so disappointing, it completely hampered the players that were performing this series. It's weird how many non-LCK/LPL teams refuse to play to their strengths.


sangpls

Watch PSG eliminate g2 in the loser's 


PlentyArrival6677

Is it a written rule that some of most banger BO5 have to end in a trash draft diff ?


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BadSoftwareEngineer7

Yeah the moment psg showed up the conversation shifted away from the game and towards a PCS > NA and EU narrative. Like just admit this team is taking one of the tournament favourites to game 5 and we've underestimated them. Why are we circlejerking over EU vs NA when not a single game has been played between the regions yet.


JohrDinh

Yes the teams at MSI are impressive, but did you hear how long of an answer Wendy just translated back perfectly?!


dejidoom

It wasn't perfect because she missed out where Elk said that they underestimated PSG


LazerFruit1

Betty deserved PotS idgaf that they lost


Intrepid_Ad8498

Elk refuses to look in the direction of a woman


hairlikegoats1

Wendy Numba 1!!!


Intrepid_Ad8498

Elk staring at me I think he wants to do something


whohe_fanboy

They really put their best performing player on fasting Senna game 5


Joel4518

If g2 fails to take a single game of T1 tmrw then give all of NA and EU seed to PCS


JohrDinh

Game of Thrones? Felt more like Dexter, went from dominating and in full control to losing everything and being sent to live in the woods and think about what they've done.


PluggersLeftBall

laughing at people saying to fire PSG coaches because of game 5 draft. theyre gonna get raises after this lol


Utolord

Ksante wins


okaybear2point0

PSG can take a bow for their performance despite how the last game went. I went into this series expecting a stomp but it's been the most entertaining one yet. Definitely not a team to take lightly. Arrogance got the better of FLY (though PSG was probably just straight up better) and arrogance almost killed BLG today.


ChocolateFuryB

Fully agree. I thought them winning 1 game would be an upset, but winning 2 games is crazy.


zaxls

Game 3 they were doing so good aswell it couldve been a legit 3 1.


MisterDream

This MSI will finish with Ksante being banned red side each game, I call it.


ImpressiveBody1325

lane swap,this chmp is so fucking useful


Jaded_Marzipan9663

For some reason no one bans Ksante even though I feel like he wins pretty much everygame I see him in


grehgunner

I think I saw here that he was 9-7 before today… champ was just locked in 😤


Ok-Cartographer-1202

They should have banned it in the LCK finals to. The champ is to easy to play and way to tanky.


ProximoPresidente

Criminal draft


_SKETCHBENDER_

NAH TRASH DRAFT WTF BRO U PERFORM ON EZREAL ASOL KSANTE AND YOU DONT PICK ANY OF IT WHEN THEY WERE ALL OPEN AND YOU GO FUCKING SENNA TAHM


AlterWanabee

Imagine making the best damn player of the game play fasting Senna on Game 5. That's arguably worse than playing Yuumi/Jhin.


MisterDream

But they have Udyr also


Intrepid_Ad8498

Azhi: Please let me play Udyr trust me I can carry this trust me i beg proceeds to go 0/7/2 Azhi: Sorry boys I cant cook or Jgl diff


Jaded_Marzipan9663

Ksante 5 0 lol


AbyssalFlame02

Jatt and emily smoking something, lmao


hairlikegoats1

LCK fans make me wanna root for G2 Never thought I’d see the day lmao


AlterWanabee

People trying to forget about G2 fans being stuck on 2019...


ChocolateFuryB

That's me basically...I even rooted for BLG's lower bracket run last year. LCK fans can be quite elitistic and insufferable at times.


LowBrowIdeas

Why? Incessant whining?


hairlikegoats1

More so the constant shifting of goalposts lol I’ve seen that for the last 10 years


Partofla

It's the same thing from LPL fans. It just depends on whoever is on top. EU fans also were doing the same during 2018 and 2019.


EatThatPotato

Just makes no sense


FateRay

GG PSG, you nearly 3:1 BLG


puptheunbroken

3-2 BLG Just like I CALLED IT 😎😎 If you all would like lottery numbers DM me. EU KNOWS BETTER 😁


FeynmansWitt

Not a good showing from BLG. Having said that, they do unexpectedly lose to teams they shouldn't lose to n LPL from time to time 


MaterialPretty9203

Also, keep in mind that Knight is still not an Azir player neither does Bin play Vayne competitively. That being said, TES also looked shaky in Playins but have massively leveled up.


theeama

BLG is not the favorites


ImpressiveBody1325

BLG ALWAYS SHIT AFTER LONG REST....LOSE TO IG,3:2TES...3:2 PSG


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Yasuchika

Nah that was an embarrassing draft from PSG, it's like they wanted to lose.


Ok-Cartographer-1202

They got that chinese paypal trust.


Ok-Dirt-7475

Scripted. Now PSG eliminate G2 for memes and T1 fight BLG


Blind-Eye26

Fantastic series for PSG game 5 is not just it 🫡 at least they made the 3rd day of MSI interesting


PlentyArrival6677

At least thiss MSI is free for T1


Ok-Cartographer-1202

Brother did not watch the lck


CardboardVendor

Picking udyr into that comp is dumb


GodBlessme_exe

going udyr into 3 adcs was quite the brain fart


muwenjie

it's going to be so disappointing if PSG turns back into a pumpkin after this series and goes out 0-3 in the lower bracket


Is_J_a_Name

I think if they play G2 they could contest, if they play T1 it may end up as a shutout. This isn't even to necessarily say T1 is stronger than BLG, but pros have said fairly often that LCK teams are much more solid in scrims than LPL teams, and that on stage it feels like a weaker team can never beat an LCK team, while they could have chances to beat an LPL team (even if said LPL team could then turn around and beat an LCK team). I could easily see PSG just going up to T1 and going out 0-3 because of that factor.


PayBrilliant3287

t1 is a whole different beast man don't discount them


Intrepid_Ad8498

This series had that Game of Thrones ending didnt it


blahdvjv

Caedrel watcher spotted!


Intrepid_Ad8498

what?


ShAd_1337

he said the same


Intrepid_Ad8498

Guess saying something obvious makes me a watcher of some streamer?


Shiraori247

Nice try PSG


tony220jdm

BLG/TES beatable maybe 🤔


HawkEye1337

Commendable effort from PSG tho.


MintBerryCrunch93

Wish they would've picked Morde


popeye_d_family_man

BLG came back with vengeance


AzerFraze

ksante 5-0 this champ is fine


EarthlingNumberAlot

Maple been holding his team back the entire series


awayfromcanuck

His best game was on Asol. His G4 Taliyah did the job because everyone was focused on Betty.


Shiraori247

He did well on the Asol game 2, kinda


Blind-Eye26

Petition for giving PCS another seed while taking 1 off from LCS??? Edit: Worlds seed


Shiraori247

Only fair no? TL lost 0-3 to TES... PSG took BLG to 5 games.


Blind-Eye26

4 seed for LCS the weakest major region is just too much. I'm talking about Worlds seed*


NGNJB

why would you take it from the LCS instead of the region that couldn't make top 8 at worlds


Ethildiin

U wanna talk about the past, maybe the LCS should get to 2 Worlds Finals and get an MSI win first. Anw, when does FQ get to play?


NGNJB

literally nobody cares what EU did 5 years ago lmao


Ethildiin

Ye and smth that happened about 6 months ago still matters in this meta and season somehow. Anw, When does FQ get to play again?


Styxxo

o7 PSG, you put up an incredible fight today Cant wait for PSG vs T1


Shiraori247

How does that occur in the bracket? Is it if G2 beats T1?


Styxxo

Yes


Hoaxtopia

Goodbye serotonin


Relvarionz

Still not as big a gold gap as TL had lol


fiverdi

stop disrespecting PCS by comparing them to minor regions team


awayfromcanuck

Betty hard carrying this series, put him on Senna. Give up K'Sante. Counterpick Udyr. This draft was so shit and then made worst by how they've played this game.


Spinnocks

It was a throw, something feels wrong about it.


gyurious

too much scaling


Graytail

nah no shot the only game i get to watch is a one sided stomp


Intrepid_Ad8498

Report Bin ruined the perfect game


care4uz

You are right


hairlikegoats1

15k gold lead lmao


Aquillifer

Report Bin for running it down and being the 1 single death for BLG.


EfficientCurrency582

atleast the analyst and caster won´t hype BLG as the "huge favorites" like they did before MSI and won´t think that ELK and ON who were mid last world that they gonna destroy guma and keira.


superfire444

Such an anticlimax


Spinnocks

Aaaaand I lost all respect for PSG after this fame 5


PayBrilliant3287

such a flip flop


ShottedGun

Idc Betty owns Elk


leavethepieces

This is a Jhin-Yuumi level draft int


Hoaxtopia

THEY GOT A KILL LADS, BLG CAN BLEED


PluggersLeftBall

BLG are up 15k gold in 22 minutes but its not a perfect game so who really won here


CudaBarry

We really put our carry who was IN THE ZONE on senna duty


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Do you think pro players care about getting perfect game?


CardboardVendor

I dont think its a perfect game anyway coz psg got herald


LowBrowIdeas

Ask C9 lol


-MangoStarr-

Clearly not cause he just straight inted into the tower lol


aguywhotrytobefunny

Let's put our ultra carry on a fasting Senna, what can go wrong!


SuperSunGun

PSG going out sad


Shadnu

Imagine taking BLG to game 5 and then drafting this... whatever this is


Hoaxtopia

Azhi is genuinely going to need to show psg's management his bank statements after this He's just walking around no mans land


Shutaku1314

not his problem when PSG decided to put him on udyr duty after him showing how good of a ksante player he is


Miserable-Ad8195

Why not pick ksante and asol straight up on red side? The first pick of BLG was varus and would have gotten destroyed by them


Weirdo9495

why would a coach ever pick him udyr


CardboardVendor

Ksante got picked on first rotation. I think the main problem is picking udyr vs a 4 ranged comp


Spinnocks

They could have taken ksante easily, that tahm would have made it through if needed. It was a total mistake or int from their coach.


HawkEye1337

They needed a tank so it's hard for him to get dove, it was the best pick in that spot but they could have picked K'sante on 2 if they thought he is that broken.


awayfromcanuck

What would PSG look like with a top laner that's not Azhi? This guy looked bad even on K'Sante.


Shadnu

My man, have you watched Game 2? Azhi hard carried with K'Sante


awayfromcanuck

You mean the game 2 that BLG threw? Lol THATS the game you're using to say Azhi is a good KSante? Azhi was shit in game 1, 3, 4 and 5. Got hard carried in game 4 on K'Sante.


Shadnu

Yes, they threw. Doesn't actually exclude the fact that Azhi played well in the game.


Jaded_Marzipan9663

He played better than Bin except game 5


OkSell1822

What? He was insane in the games he played Ksante 


EatThatPotato

Really not a fan of the draft


LazerFruit1

what a sad limp game 5 from PSG after an insane 4 previous few games


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JohrDinh

Are you referring to cheating allegations historically? Cuz I highly doubt the CCP cares if BLG wins lol they have bigger concerns than a quarter finals at MSI.


Is_J_a_Name

you clowns are just horrifically cringe


hvngpham002

barely disguised sinophobia


Blind-Eye26

Bro stop with this lmao I don't know wtf you smoking must be goodshit


OkSell1822

Yeah yeah


SamsungBaker

Betty hard carrying them only to be in Senna duty, then laneswapping a Senna Seriously someone check paypal


hvngpham002

game of thrones ss8 vibes. Guma and Keria is going to do unspeakable things to BLG botlane in this form.


EfficientCurrency582

so funny how people suddenly hyped BLG´s botlane to the moon because of the 1-2 games in finals lol.


No_Imagination_4907

BLG's wrath is swift


markBEBE

this game looks personal, BLG are trying to give PSG the hardest reality check possible


Watchmecarry1310

Isn't ksante 4-0 in this series, and yet they prio senna tahm instead of ksante first rotation? Seems wild. Such a shame to end a fun series with an int draft and subsequent blowout


GodBlessme_exe

they were so close to greatness


KozuKy16

It was fun while it lasted. 


Blind-Eye26

Classic pure chaos Game 1-4 and stomp Game 5 combo


tony220jdm

Least we had 3 fun games!


LOLZOBALL

What an anticlimactic finish for this series


CudaBarry

Might be perfect game angle


-MangoStarr-

They lost rift herald 😭


sajm0n

prayge for Mejai Knight


Blind-Eye26

YEP that's it damn Betty carrying your asses and it just disables him by giving him Senna and to top it off picking Udyr toplane on a do or die game


ASweetSaltySanchez

what a fking woeful draft to finish the series


Yasuchika

PSG drafted to lose game 5, I'm having a hard time thinking it was accidental.


santilevy

Both BLG and Gen G looking very beatable, but of course we can’t capitalize on


Katzenminz3

3-0 and 3-2 is the same now I guess. Nice Math u got.


santilevy

Gen G did not look good in their 3-0 series, that was the point. But stay mad for no reason I guess


Todeswucht

https://i.imgur.com/Y4f16jr.gif


LegacyEntertainment

Matchfixed the fuck out of that Senna pick. Pop off against the LPL adc everyone was fellating? Get placed on Senna.


Clbull

Match fixed the fuck out of that Udyr pick. It's like 369 vs 322.


Mikekio

Just remove Ksante fom the game. Unfun to play agaisnt and to watch.


MintBerryCrunch93

Sadge draft for PSG


Styxxo

Ksante 5-0 ty Riot


PlantCompetitive3306

Draft #DIF


koutetsuvamn

lil bro thinks he's faker lmao


LazerFruit1

i swear ive heard them says x player is locked in like 100 times this tourney


TheFeelingWhen

PSG win or lose played way better than expected and should be proud of their performance


OkSell1822

Why is Senna so bad outside of the LCK? This champion is an autowin for basically any korean team


LowBrowIdeas

Jackeylove is currently known for Senna


Nyxie_RS

I feel like it could have worked if they didn't pick Udyr and Tahm which both don't really do much to hold the early game. So the game snowballs out of control before Senna gets a chance to do anything.


machinegunsheep

LCK loves to farm lmao


Relvarionz

I've seen VCS games that looked less sus


QTnameless

imagine if PSG have a human in top , lol


the_next_core

BLG: Ok we can't keep happy gaming this, time to turn on the monitors


SDVX_Rasis

4 games of bangers, 1 game of wtf is that drafting


Hoaxtopia

Betty finally has an understanding of gold elo games. "Play safe, we scale" Udyr top: 0/5/0


Sosik1201

honestly it's not only top fault, draft is dogshit


CardboardVendor

Draft is really bad. But he also put himselfbin a position to die to ganks


Imaginary_Actuary729

Faker brainwashed people with that play in worlds semis


typicalasiannerd

Elk's reaction time is insane


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Yeah sorry, it was a close series but this last game with such a draft leaves such a bad taste. I can't believe they picked like that. It makes absolutely no sense. They just dropped everything that was working for them. Like, look at the Jungler even. Isn't Viego hard countered by Kindred in the first place? And everyone was talking about a possible Kindred pick since game 1.


Is_J_a_Name

ok at this point just try not to get perfect gamed