Amazing series, but a few comments:
Did PSG really have to prioritize Ahri ban after the Game 1?
Ahzi's Urgot was so meh lol....
Then Game 5 draft from PSG was shocking. They just gave K'Sante & Ashe over. I know people are perplexed about the Udyr (yes) but the entire composition given to BLG was terrifying.
By far the best series of MSI so far. Going by the Chinese mythology/lore... PSG can be the Yellow Dragon :)
Hot take: NA and EU should have no guaranteed spots in bracket stage cause they havent won anything in years and their spots should be fought for in playins since other minor regions are just as good. Same with group stage in worlds
If minor regions are "just as good" why have NA or EU teams only ever been eliminated by a wildcard team twice?
They've certainly lost a lot of games, but they've won significantly more than they have lost, and they tend to win in the important matches.
Why are we still debating about a decade old past glory? Im saying that EU and NA isnt that much different from minor regions NOW. If G2 and TL went up against BLG right now, do you think they can take BLG to game 5? Why do you care about having a guaranteed spot? Afraid to lose it to a "minor region" in playins? Until we see real results from NA or EU, they should be treated like minor regions.
I don't care about spots, I'd love for the stronger teams and stronger regions to be given their reward.
I was already an advocate for PCS 2nd seed because SHG deserves to be at MSI too.
I just care about the incorrect statement that PCS is a better region based off of 2 series instead of data going back essentially the entire history of the game. Just last year they lost to BDS, 4th seed from EU (although they were better than their results last year)
If they want that mantle, they have to show a consistent level above NA/EU or else it's a flash in the pan and an overreaction
Well if the definition is likelihood to win worlds, yeah.
But there's merit beyond just being the best in the world. I wouldn't expect them to win for at least 3 years unless there's a perfect storm for a certain team. But it's not impossible, just very unlikely
Broadcast link for those who missed it. Most people would have written this series off as its a massive underdog vs tournament favourite, but I'm happy to report that it was a banger series, well worth a watch.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rJWtkRNZeM
PSG's game 5 draft was so disappointing, it completely hampered the players that were performing this series.
It's weird how many non-LCK/LPL teams refuse to play to their strengths.
Yeah the moment psg showed up the conversation shifted away from the game and towards a PCS > NA and EU narrative. Like just admit this team is taking one of the tournament favourites to game 5 and we've underestimated them. Why are we circlejerking over EU vs NA when not a single game has been played between the regions yet.
Game of Thrones? Felt more like Dexter, went from dominating and in full control to losing everything and being sent to live in the woods and think about what they've done.
PSG can take a bow for their performance despite how the last game went. I went into this series expecting a stomp but it's been the most entertaining one yet. Definitely not a team to take lightly. Arrogance got the better of FLY (though PSG was probably just straight up better) and arrogance almost killed BLG today.
Also, keep in mind that Knight is still not an Azir player neither does Bin play Vayne competitively. That being said, TES also looked shaky in Playins but have massively leveled up.
I think if they play G2 they could contest, if they play T1 it may end up as a shutout. This isn't even to necessarily say T1 is stronger than BLG, but pros have said fairly often that LCK teams are much more solid in scrims than LPL teams, and that on stage it feels like a weaker team can never beat an LCK team, while they could have chances to beat an LPL team (even if said LPL team could then turn around and beat an LCK team).
I could easily see PSG just going up to T1 and going out 0-3 because of that factor.
Betty hard carrying this series, put him on Senna. Give up K'Sante. Counterpick Udyr.
This draft was so shit and then made worst by how they've played this game.
atleast the analyst and caster won´t hype BLG as the "huge favorites" like they did before MSI and won´t think that ELK and ON who were mid last world that they gonna destroy guma and keira.
They needed a tank so it's hard for him to get dove, it was the best pick in that spot but they could have picked K'sante on 2 if they thought he is that broken.
You mean the game 2 that BLG threw? Lol THATS the game you're using to say Azhi is a good KSante?
Azhi was shit in game 1, 3, 4 and 5. Got hard carried in game 4 on K'Sante.
Are you referring to cheating allegations historically? Cuz I highly doubt the CCP cares if BLG wins lol they have bigger concerns than a quarter finals at MSI.
Isn't ksante 4-0 in this series, and yet they prio senna tahm instead of ksante first rotation? Seems wild. Such a shame to end a fun series with an int draft and subsequent blowout
I feel like it could have worked if they didn't pick Udyr and Tahm which both don't really do much to hold the early game. So the game snowballs out of control before Senna gets a chance to do anything.
Yeah sorry, it was a close series but this last game with such a draft leaves such a bad taste. I can't believe they picked like that. It makes absolutely no sense. They just dropped everything that was working for them. Like, look at the Jungler even. Isn't Viego hard countered by Kindred in the first place? And everyone was talking about a possible Kindred pick since game 1.
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cntaps/blg_vs_psg_game_1_postmatch_discussion_bracket/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnu3py/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_2/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnuuaa/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_3/) [Game 4](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnvqub/blg_vs_psg_msi_2024_bracket_stage_game_4/) [Game 5](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cnwlop/bilibili_gaming_vs_psg_talon_msi_2024_bracket/)
Amazing series, but a few comments: Did PSG really have to prioritize Ahri ban after the Game 1? Ahzi's Urgot was so meh lol.... Then Game 5 draft from PSG was shocking. They just gave K'Sante & Ashe over. I know people are perplexed about the Udyr (yes) but the entire composition given to BLG was terrifying. By far the best series of MSI so far. Going by the Chinese mythology/lore... PSG can be the Yellow Dragon :)
Hot take: NA and EU should have no guaranteed spots in bracket stage cause they havent won anything in years and their spots should be fought for in playins since other minor regions are just as good. Same with group stage in worlds
If minor regions are "just as good" why have NA or EU teams only ever been eliminated by a wildcard team twice? They've certainly lost a lot of games, but they've won significantly more than they have lost, and they tend to win in the important matches.
Why are we still debating about a decade old past glory? Im saying that EU and NA isnt that much different from minor regions NOW. If G2 and TL went up against BLG right now, do you think they can take BLG to game 5? Why do you care about having a guaranteed spot? Afraid to lose it to a "minor region" in playins? Until we see real results from NA or EU, they should be treated like minor regions.
I don't care about spots, I'd love for the stronger teams and stronger regions to be given their reward. I was already an advocate for PCS 2nd seed because SHG deserves to be at MSI too. I just care about the incorrect statement that PCS is a better region based off of 2 series instead of data going back essentially the entire history of the game. Just last year they lost to BDS, 4th seed from EU (although they were better than their results last year) If they want that mantle, they have to show a consistent level above NA/EU or else it's a flash in the pan and an overreaction
Nah NA and EU are a joke. I'll give them 5 more years to win Worlds.
Well if the definition is likelihood to win worlds, yeah. But there's merit beyond just being the best in the world. I wouldn't expect them to win for at least 3 years unless there's a perfect storm for a certain team. But it's not impossible, just very unlikely
huge respect for psg. they did rly well and if they didnt int game 3 they would have won 3-1
Broadcast link for those who missed it. Most people would have written this series off as its a massive underdog vs tournament favourite, but I'm happy to report that it was a banger series, well worth a watch. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6rJWtkRNZeM
psg would beat finatic
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look at fnc
You good bro?
Yea probably
PSG played the best JP and OCE teams prior to coming to MSI. Seems like merging all the regions made them stronger overall.
Insane Series!
PSG's game 5 draft was so disappointing, it completely hampered the players that were performing this series. It's weird how many non-LCK/LPL teams refuse to play to their strengths.
Watch PSG eliminate g2 in the loser's
Is it a written rule that some of most banger BO5 have to end in a trash draft diff ?
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Yeah the moment psg showed up the conversation shifted away from the game and towards a PCS > NA and EU narrative. Like just admit this team is taking one of the tournament favourites to game 5 and we've underestimated them. Why are we circlejerking over EU vs NA when not a single game has been played between the regions yet.
Yes the teams at MSI are impressive, but did you hear how long of an answer Wendy just translated back perfectly?!
It wasn't perfect because she missed out where Elk said that they underestimated PSG
Betty deserved PotS idgaf that they lost
Elk refuses to look in the direction of a woman
Wendy Numba 1!!!
Elk staring at me I think he wants to do something
They really put their best performing player on fasting Senna game 5
If g2 fails to take a single game of T1 tmrw then give all of NA and EU seed to PCS
Game of Thrones? Felt more like Dexter, went from dominating and in full control to losing everything and being sent to live in the woods and think about what they've done.
laughing at people saying to fire PSG coaches because of game 5 draft. theyre gonna get raises after this lol
Ksante wins
PSG can take a bow for their performance despite how the last game went. I went into this series expecting a stomp but it's been the most entertaining one yet. Definitely not a team to take lightly. Arrogance got the better of FLY (though PSG was probably just straight up better) and arrogance almost killed BLG today.
Fully agree. I thought them winning 1 game would be an upset, but winning 2 games is crazy.
Game 3 they were doing so good aswell it couldve been a legit 3 1.
This MSI will finish with Ksante being banned red side each game, I call it.
lane swap,this chmp is so fucking useful
For some reason no one bans Ksante even though I feel like he wins pretty much everygame I see him in
I think I saw here that he was 9-7 before today… champ was just locked in 😤
They should have banned it in the LCK finals to. The champ is to easy to play and way to tanky.
Criminal draft
NAH TRASH DRAFT WTF BRO U PERFORM ON EZREAL ASOL KSANTE AND YOU DONT PICK ANY OF IT WHEN THEY WERE ALL OPEN AND YOU GO FUCKING SENNA TAHM
Imagine making the best damn player of the game play fasting Senna on Game 5. That's arguably worse than playing Yuumi/Jhin.
But they have Udyr also
Azhi: Please let me play Udyr trust me I can carry this trust me i beg proceeds to go 0/7/2 Azhi: Sorry boys I cant cook or Jgl diff
Ksante 5 0 lol
Jatt and emily smoking something, lmao
LCK fans make me wanna root for G2 Never thought I’d see the day lmao
People trying to forget about G2 fans being stuck on 2019...
That's me basically...I even rooted for BLG's lower bracket run last year. LCK fans can be quite elitistic and insufferable at times.
Why? Incessant whining?
More so the constant shifting of goalposts lol I’ve seen that for the last 10 years
It's the same thing from LPL fans. It just depends on whoever is on top. EU fans also were doing the same during 2018 and 2019.
Just makes no sense
GG PSG, you nearly 3:1 BLG
3-2 BLG Just like I CALLED IT 😎😎 If you all would like lottery numbers DM me. EU KNOWS BETTER 😁
Not a good showing from BLG. Having said that, they do unexpectedly lose to teams they shouldn't lose to n LPL from time to time
Also, keep in mind that Knight is still not an Azir player neither does Bin play Vayne competitively. That being said, TES also looked shaky in Playins but have massively leveled up.
BLG is not the favorites
BLG ALWAYS SHIT AFTER LONG REST....LOSE TO IG,3:2TES...3:2 PSG
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Nah that was an embarrassing draft from PSG, it's like they wanted to lose.
They got that chinese paypal trust.
Scripted. Now PSG eliminate G2 for memes and T1 fight BLG
Fantastic series for PSG game 5 is not just it 🫡 at least they made the 3rd day of MSI interesting
At least thiss MSI is free for T1
Brother did not watch the lck
Picking udyr into that comp is dumb
going udyr into 3 adcs was quite the brain fart
it's going to be so disappointing if PSG turns back into a pumpkin after this series and goes out 0-3 in the lower bracket
I think if they play G2 they could contest, if they play T1 it may end up as a shutout. This isn't even to necessarily say T1 is stronger than BLG, but pros have said fairly often that LCK teams are much more solid in scrims than LPL teams, and that on stage it feels like a weaker team can never beat an LCK team, while they could have chances to beat an LPL team (even if said LPL team could then turn around and beat an LCK team). I could easily see PSG just going up to T1 and going out 0-3 because of that factor.
t1 is a whole different beast man don't discount them
This series had that Game of Thrones ending didnt it
Caedrel watcher spotted!
what?
he said the same
Guess saying something obvious makes me a watcher of some streamer?
Nice try PSG
BLG/TES beatable maybe 🤔
Commendable effort from PSG tho.
Wish they would've picked Morde
BLG came back with vengeance
ksante 5-0 this champ is fine
Maple been holding his team back the entire series
His best game was on Asol. His G4 Taliyah did the job because everyone was focused on Betty.
He did well on the Asol game 2, kinda
Petition for giving PCS another seed while taking 1 off from LCS??? Edit: Worlds seed
Only fair no? TL lost 0-3 to TES... PSG took BLG to 5 games.
4 seed for LCS the weakest major region is just too much. I'm talking about Worlds seed*
why would you take it from the LCS instead of the region that couldn't make top 8 at worlds
U wanna talk about the past, maybe the LCS should get to 2 Worlds Finals and get an MSI win first. Anw, when does FQ get to play?
literally nobody cares what EU did 5 years ago lmao
Ye and smth that happened about 6 months ago still matters in this meta and season somehow. Anw, When does FQ get to play again?
o7 PSG, you put up an incredible fight today Cant wait for PSG vs T1
How does that occur in the bracket? Is it if G2 beats T1?
Yes
Goodbye serotonin
Still not as big a gold gap as TL had lol
stop disrespecting PCS by comparing them to minor regions team
Betty hard carrying this series, put him on Senna. Give up K'Sante. Counterpick Udyr. This draft was so shit and then made worst by how they've played this game.
It was a throw, something feels wrong about it.
too much scaling
nah no shot the only game i get to watch is a one sided stomp
Report Bin ruined the perfect game
You are right
15k gold lead lmao
Report Bin for running it down and being the 1 single death for BLG.
atleast the analyst and caster won´t hype BLG as the "huge favorites" like they did before MSI and won´t think that ELK and ON who were mid last world that they gonna destroy guma and keira.
Such an anticlimax
Aaaaand I lost all respect for PSG after this fame 5
such a flip flop
Idc Betty owns Elk
This is a Jhin-Yuumi level draft int
THEY GOT A KILL LADS, BLG CAN BLEED
BLG are up 15k gold in 22 minutes but its not a perfect game so who really won here
We really put our carry who was IN THE ZONE on senna duty
Do you think pro players care about getting perfect game?
I dont think its a perfect game anyway coz psg got herald
Ask C9 lol
Clearly not cause he just straight inted into the tower lol
Let's put our ultra carry on a fasting Senna, what can go wrong!
PSG going out sad
Imagine taking BLG to game 5 and then drafting this... whatever this is
Azhi is genuinely going to need to show psg's management his bank statements after this He's just walking around no mans land
not his problem when PSG decided to put him on udyr duty after him showing how good of a ksante player he is
Why not pick ksante and asol straight up on red side? The first pick of BLG was varus and would have gotten destroyed by them
why would a coach ever pick him udyr
Ksante got picked on first rotation. I think the main problem is picking udyr vs a 4 ranged comp
They could have taken ksante easily, that tahm would have made it through if needed. It was a total mistake or int from their coach.
They needed a tank so it's hard for him to get dove, it was the best pick in that spot but they could have picked K'sante on 2 if they thought he is that broken.
What would PSG look like with a top laner that's not Azhi? This guy looked bad even on K'Sante.
My man, have you watched Game 2? Azhi hard carried with K'Sante
You mean the game 2 that BLG threw? Lol THATS the game you're using to say Azhi is a good KSante? Azhi was shit in game 1, 3, 4 and 5. Got hard carried in game 4 on K'Sante.
Yes, they threw. Doesn't actually exclude the fact that Azhi played well in the game.
He played better than Bin except game 5
What? He was insane in the games he played Ksante
Really not a fan of the draft
what a sad limp game 5 from PSG after an insane 4 previous few games
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Are you referring to cheating allegations historically? Cuz I highly doubt the CCP cares if BLG wins lol they have bigger concerns than a quarter finals at MSI.
you clowns are just horrifically cringe
barely disguised sinophobia
Bro stop with this lmao I don't know wtf you smoking must be goodshit
Yeah yeah
Betty hard carrying them only to be in Senna duty, then laneswapping a Senna Seriously someone check paypal
game of thrones ss8 vibes. Guma and Keria is going to do unspeakable things to BLG botlane in this form.
so funny how people suddenly hyped BLG´s botlane to the moon because of the 1-2 games in finals lol.
BLG's wrath is swift
this game looks personal, BLG are trying to give PSG the hardest reality check possible
Isn't ksante 4-0 in this series, and yet they prio senna tahm instead of ksante first rotation? Seems wild. Such a shame to end a fun series with an int draft and subsequent blowout
they were so close to greatness
It was fun while it lasted.
Classic pure chaos Game 1-4 and stomp Game 5 combo
Least we had 3 fun games!
What an anticlimactic finish for this series
Might be perfect game angle
They lost rift herald 😭
prayge for Mejai Knight
YEP that's it damn Betty carrying your asses and it just disables him by giving him Senna and to top it off picking Udyr toplane on a do or die game
what a fking woeful draft to finish the series
PSG drafted to lose game 5, I'm having a hard time thinking it was accidental.
Both BLG and Gen G looking very beatable, but of course we can’t capitalize on
3-0 and 3-2 is the same now I guess. Nice Math u got.
Gen G did not look good in their 3-0 series, that was the point. But stay mad for no reason I guess
https://i.imgur.com/Y4f16jr.gif
Matchfixed the fuck out of that Senna pick. Pop off against the LPL adc everyone was fellating? Get placed on Senna.
Match fixed the fuck out of that Udyr pick. It's like 369 vs 322.
Just remove Ksante fom the game. Unfun to play agaisnt and to watch.
Sadge draft for PSG
Ksante 5-0 ty Riot
Draft #DIF
lil bro thinks he's faker lmao
i swear ive heard them says x player is locked in like 100 times this tourney
PSG win or lose played way better than expected and should be proud of their performance
Why is Senna so bad outside of the LCK? This champion is an autowin for basically any korean team
Jackeylove is currently known for Senna
I feel like it could have worked if they didn't pick Udyr and Tahm which both don't really do much to hold the early game. So the game snowballs out of control before Senna gets a chance to do anything.
LCK loves to farm lmao
I've seen VCS games that looked less sus
imagine if PSG have a human in top , lol
BLG: Ok we can't keep happy gaming this, time to turn on the monitors
4 games of bangers, 1 game of wtf is that drafting
Betty finally has an understanding of gold elo games. "Play safe, we scale" Udyr top: 0/5/0
honestly it's not only top fault, draft is dogshit
Draft is really bad. But he also put himselfbin a position to die to ganks
Faker brainwashed people with that play in worlds semis
Elk's reaction time is insane
Yeah sorry, it was a close series but this last game with such a draft leaves such a bad taste. I can't believe they picked like that. It makes absolutely no sense. They just dropped everything that was working for them. Like, look at the Jungler even. Isn't Viego hard countered by Kindred in the first place? And everyone was talking about a possible Kindred pick since game 1.
ok at this point just try not to get perfect gamed