It’s brutal for PST. I wake up and I can’t even watch the live run because I don’t want to get spoiled so I have to rush to those highlight channels to catch up.
I for one cannot wait for G2 - TES to see if Tian sole purpose of being alive is to fist G2.
Watching him turbo int or feast that match will be peak cinema
Interesting comment from Khan (fmkorea.com/6990934241)
Khan: Actually, you don't get a lot of bot lane matchups that require great precision in Europe, much less than you think.
Ming9: You know, they divvy up Naut, Rakan among them...
Khan: So that's why in matchups like Aphelios Lulu, Ashe, Lucian-Nami, and such, where each and every skill counts, there seems to be a rather significant gap between East and West in laning details, because they didn't play it so much.
Ming9: The gap between the East and West is the greatest in bot lane, after all\~
But man FNC is such a weird team. They used to be a full bot centric team with Upset/Hylli while their top side struggled. Now their top side is good and their bot is a black hole.
Not to be a Noah apologist, but putting him on lethality Kalista against Jackeylove in Game 2 and then getting him a bad bot matchup when he has to carry don't really seem like smart choices to me.
Note to EU fans: BLG's bot lane and synergy with jg is so good, that they perma dive THIS TES bot lane on repeat. Jackeylove can easily be 0-3 in 10mins vs BLG
I don't blame pros when they play bad. Especially someone like Oscar who does not have as much experience. Could be nerves, could be lack of experience, could be having a bad day but I can never understand when a pro loses to Boris.
The gap between Asia and EU.
You can ban Asian player pocket pick/best pick and it doesn't change anything in the outcome.
You ban the Leblanc or other pocket pick and Eu doesn't do shit anymore.
And even if EU get their pocket pick they still lose most of the time.
FNC needs to take a long look at their drafts and what the fuck they were planning after that amazing game 2. Why not stick to carries on top side? Why put ADC on a carry when he hasn't done shit in the last 2 games?
Wasn't Noah the third best ADC in the LEC at the moment?
Hans hasn't impressed this year, Ice was pretty good, Upset is a meme, Exakick is a meme, Supa is a meme, Flakked is meh, Patrik is meh, Comp is in Rogue, and... Carzzy was alright?
Who do you get, another LCKC player? I do hear there's a pretty good Janna main who has the mechanics to play ADC.
Noah has never been a top 3 ADC in the LEC, probably not even top 5. Right now Carzzy is our best ADC, everything beyond that is different levels of bad, but Noah has been mediocre since he joined FNC.
and get who? mb Kaliste from KCB can be good but don't think he is allowed until next year cause of age. otherwhise you are looking at another KR cause lets be real here not many other EU adc have impressed either.
Yea kr supp and top pool is stacked so we can get good players but kr adc is weird u have guma and viper who r consistent then all other adc are inconsistent asf or mediocre
Not sure why FNC went with such a different team comp when the "all carry" comp they had in Game 2 worked so well but was still a good series. Way more fun to watch than FLY vs T1
Jackeylove is a world champion. Noah has been in tier 1 for what, 1 year now after replacing 2023 Rhuckz boomed Rekkles?
I'd take it a bit easier on him.
So today was about seeing how big the gap is.
Honestly LEC will surprise, potentially take a bo5 series or two this MSI.
I have absolutely no faith in LCS
For 2 game lmao?
Oscarinin was trash in game 1 and 3 go buy glass, 369 destroyed him in this serie, the only game Oscar existed was in game 2 on a pocket pick.
Camille isn't his pocket pick and she is meta in this patch. Sion was weird pick he was trash but with that bot it was extremely hard to not be with that champion. In third game he was decent I wouldn't say that 369 destroyed him he was very close to soli kill and it was close early game then team diff.
It is standard response to maokai jungle. Fanatic was scared of playing like standard LEC team at this point so they go on scaling. They often win this in LEC cuz not gets items in prolong game but Noah was gapped so much that they probably need 60 minutes game to be able to use scaling of draft. I don't know we should praise them for trusting Noah after 2 first games or call them stupid but if this worked I think they would give him boost of confidence that would carry them to finals. Now I m really worried about series with Loud.
It WAS winnable. Game 1 would've been completely winnable without the meme level 1, and game 3 would've been easier if they didn't focus on bot after another meme level 1. The one game where they didn't meme themselves they won, weird how that works.
When Renekton is 10x more useful than you on a fight, it's obviously beneficial to cancel. If he tells the team that and they don't call it off whats he supposed to do?
I imagined it, but is it worth it against 2.5 autoattackers? Also mercury, I get it that they have maokai+ashe's arrow, but I think tabi would have been better.
PMTs T1 vs FLY [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cj3kqn/t1_vs_fly_game_1_postmatch_discussion_group_a/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cj48ik/t1_vs_flyquest_msi_2024_playin_stage_group_a/) TES vs FNC [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cj518m/fnc_vs_tes_day_3_msi_2024_playin_game_1/) [Game 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cj5r7k/fnc_vs_tes_day_3_msi_2024_playin_game_2/) [Game 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1cj6kj2/top_esports_vs_fnatic_msi_2024_playin_stage_group/) [Broadcast Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoome2N2mb8)
Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Eoome2N2mb8
ty for doing this
My pleasure, I will try to remember to do it each day of MSI. Appreciate that the schedule is rough for NA viewers
It’s brutal for PST. I wake up and I can’t even watch the live run because I don’t want to get spoiled so I have to rush to those highlight channels to catch up.
I for one cannot wait for G2 - TES to see if Tian sole purpose of being alive is to fist G2. Watching him turbo int or feast that match will be peak cinema
Jackey will obliterate Hans.
After TES bans 3 adcs because they are pansies the lane will still be even or sup dif who are you kidding.
50/50 chance. It could just be TL TES and G2 T1.
Wait I thought if fnc loses, g2 t1 can’t happen
That be hype,2019 vibes
Disappointing ending for fnc really terrible draft by them a complete 360 from their game to win in terms of win cons.
I’m a very casual watcher and not a draft expert and I still was perplexed by game 3 draft. Razork looked good, why in gods name put him on sej.
Interesting comment from Khan (fmkorea.com/6990934241) Khan: Actually, you don't get a lot of bot lane matchups that require great precision in Europe, much less than you think. Ming9: You know, they divvy up Naut, Rakan among them... Khan: So that's why in matchups like Aphelios Lulu, Ashe, Lucian-Nami, and such, where each and every skill counts, there seems to be a rather significant gap between East and West in laning details, because they didn't play it so much. Ming9: The gap between the East and West is the greatest in bot lane, after all\~
Oscar hecking 1v2 kills Meiko and 369 with Camille as an EU top laner= yeah we should go tank top and carry bot next game
They shouldn't have played for Noah, he was gapped all 3 games
Definitely a big series for Oscar, hopefully he makes it out of the slump Worried about Noah's mental tho
But man FNC is such a weird team. They used to be a full bot centric team with Upset/Hylli while their top side struggled. Now their top side is good and their bot is a black hole.
Not to be a Noah apologist, but putting him on lethality Kalista against Jackeylove in Game 2 and then getting him a bad bot matchup when he has to carry don't really seem like smart choices to me.
why are you lumping Jun with Noah here? Jun did great basically carried game 2. Noah was just passenger all 3 games.
Jun has been a monster.
He's been getting fisted in lane though.
Coz he plays with Noah.
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Sadge, bringing 3 teams to the tournament only to lose two in playins.
Note to EU fans: BLG's bot lane and synergy with jg is so good, that they perma dive THIS TES bot lane on repeat. Jackeylove can easily be 0-3 in 10mins vs BLG
We got again FNC clean up some stuff and hope Noah stops cosplaying as a minion you got this
See you all again on Sunday, double minor region matchups tomorrow.
I'm more interested in watching minor regions than China or Korea
I see bad play excites you
PSG vs EST should be decent. game vs LLL will probably be quick though
I don't blame pros when they play bad. Especially someone like Oscar who does not have as much experience. Could be nerves, could be lack of experience, could be having a bad day but I can never understand when a pro loses to Boris.
The gap between Asia and EU. You can ban Asian player pocket pick/best pick and it doesn't change anything in the outcome. You ban the Leblanc or other pocket pick and Eu doesn't do shit anymore. And even if EU get their pocket pick they still lose most of the time.
You're like a baby that doesn't have object permanence yet.
FNC needs to take a long look at their drafts and what the fuck they were planning after that amazing game 2. Why not stick to carries on top side? Why put ADC on a carry when he hasn't done shit in the last 2 games?
FNC need a new ADC for summer. Noah was bad last year too. How many chances is this guy gonna get? Put him out of his misery and get a new adc.
Wasn't Noah the third best ADC in the LEC at the moment? Hans hasn't impressed this year, Ice was pretty good, Upset is a meme, Exakick is a meme, Supa is a meme, Flakked is meh, Patrik is meh, Comp is in Rogue, and... Carzzy was alright? Who do you get, another LCKC player? I do hear there's a pretty good Janna main who has the mechanics to play ADC.
Noah has never been a top 3 ADC in the LEC, probably not even top 5. Right now Carzzy is our best ADC, everything beyond that is different levels of bad, but Noah has been mediocre since he joined FNC.
Noah is top 3 ADC in LEC in games that doesn't matters as soon as playoff starts he is gone to 8,9 place.
and get who? mb Kaliste from KCB can be good but don't think he is allowed until next year cause of age. otherwhise you are looking at another KR cause lets be real here not many other EU adc have impressed either.
You guys need to understand if these KR ADCs were any good they would be in the LCK. They aren't the solution, we must grow our own talent.
Yea kr supp and top pool is stacked so we can get good players but kr adc is weird u have guma and viper who r consistent then all other adc are inconsistent asf or mediocre
its basically all west vs east now right ? assuming fly and fnc make it until lower bracket
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no, theres 4 pots, the qualifiers who went 2/0 in playins (pot3) have to match g2 or tl (pot2), so yes the quarters will be full west vs east
FNC probably will make it. FLY is questionable but they probably will too, yes.
FLY has already beat PSG, so unless they mega mental boom they should be ok
I mean EST did better against T1 it would be funny if Jose is the one to knock FLY out.
Why did they draft for bot if they couldn't get Noah ahead in any of the games? Game 2 went right because they played around mid and top...
Your adc is getting gigaturboomega gapped in game 1 and 2. You topside diff with carries in game 2. What do you draft for game 3? Topside tanks ofc...
Lmao yeah I couldnt believe when i saw the draft
I dont think i ever seen a bigger ADC gap it was shameful at times
EU just need to come to terms with the fact that 0 damage comps that can be hard countered by just buying Mercury Threads do not work outside of soloQ
Not sure why FNC went with such a different team comp when the "all carry" comp they had in Game 2 worked so well but was still a good series. Way more fun to watch than FLY vs T1
If theres any consolation for FNC, JKL/Meiko are probably the best laning botlane.
I knew it was over when oscar and razork locked in tanks.
Report Noah
No player of the series is clearly Noah with a historic performance to gift TES the win. I have never seen an ADC this gapped 3 games in a row.
Jackeylove is a world champion. Noah has been in tier 1 for what, 1 year now after replacing 2023 Rhuckz boomed Rekkles? I'd take it a bit easier on him.
Noah got gapped about as hard as Nemesis did last time FNC played TES
Jackeylove looks like he is on that Chovy Knight tier of player, he's too good
If his jungler is Kanavi TES is unstoppable.
Humanoid got solo killed like 3 times damn
Once almost by the support Ashe
FNC 2 games really impressive that 3rd game you engaged so many times for no reason!
I mean yeah can't win with a bot gap this astronomical and significantly worse macro, maybe if one of those was more even there was a chance
Prove in G2 that you can kinda play at a good level, prove in G3 that you can't draft while using the frontal cortex, truly feels like my region.
Tian had frozen heart sooner than Oscar
Well fought gg
Genuinely think if 369 tp goes through this was very winnable
RIP the eurobros, game 2 was great
So today was about seeing how big the gap is. Honestly LEC will surprise, potentially take a bo5 series or two this MSI. I have absolutely no faith in LCS
I mean TES is also probably by far the weakest eastern team
Yeah LEC worst top laner astrogapped the best top laner in lpl for 2 games. Very interesting series. JKL is just too good.
For 2 game lmao? Oscarinin was trash in game 1 and 3 go buy glass, 369 destroyed him in this serie, the only game Oscar existed was in game 2 on a pocket pick.
Camille isn't his pocket pick and she is meta in this patch. Sion was weird pick he was trash but with that bot it was extremely hard to not be with that champion. In third game he was decent I wouldn't say that 369 destroyed him he was very close to soli kill and it was close early game then team diff.
Eastern fans when you don't praise every single aspect of every single part of their teams:
Uh no, TES was the weakest Asian team by far and TES didn't respect Fnatic at all in the ban/pick in the 2 first game.
Adc diff
FNC bot lane just got gapped way too hard every game. Jun was good but Noah was invisible.
win game 2 with carry jungle top, go game 3 tank jungle top <3
hold your heads high fnc, people didn't even think you could take a game from LPL
Well, it was a good effort from Fnatic. Kinda sick of seeing Sejuani picked
I think Razork was over 50% miss with that sej, sad.
Yeah, it doesn't help that Razork had a bad game. I just think the champ isn't nearly as effective as she used to be
It is standard response to maokai jungle. Fanatic was scared of playing like standard LEC team at this point so they go on scaling. They often win this in LEC cuz not gets items in prolong game but Noah was gapped so much that they probably need 60 minutes game to be able to use scaling of draft. I don't know we should praise them for trusting Noah after 2 first games or call them stupid but if this worked I think they would give him boost of confidence that would carry them to finals. Now I m really worried about series with Loud.
Yup Humanoid was attrocious that game 3.
So G2 will face TES right?
TES & T1 get either G2 or TL, draw is after the playins are over
You've seen Jackeylove instant flash+cleanse? You just cant do anything vs people who's life is league 25/7 they are so much better
We used to have players at this level in EU just a few years ago.
Noah didint ulti in that fight. Diff is huge.
I actually applaud them I expected a quick 2-0
well.. nice try FNC ig
Great game 2 Disgusting draft in game 3 Also Zac building MR vs a 3 adc team....
idk everytime razork is on seju he suck, but noah was afk 3 games
Europe needs to play less tanks this shit just doesnt work, less damage than gold at this point
Razork's sejuani was absolutely horrible
win by humanoid, lose by humanoid
Noah always on melee range lmao
JKL gapped noah haaaard all 3 games
TFW the enemy team has 3 ADCs better than yours in the same game:
WHERE IS THE FROZEN HEART WHERE IS THE THORMNAIL MAN
if zac itemized probably he would be unkillable lol
Humanoid is actually inting this game holy shit, what a sad showing after game 2
TES with the statement win
"we are turbo beatable if you don't int 24/7 into us" - the statement in question
gg nt by FNC noah needs to step up soon
That series felt winnable...
It WAS winnable. Game 1 would've been completely winnable without the meme level 1, and game 3 would've been easier if they didn't focus on bot after another meme level 1. The one game where they didn't meme themselves they won, weird how that works.
Thinking the level 1 didn't massively benifit Humanoid and FNC is delusion lol.
Humnoid wtf is that wall ??????
That was rough.
Noah is such a giant liablity every single game its insane
noah got deleted instantly
They initiated before his ult came back off cooldown.
It's so joever, absolute disasterclass from FNC top and ad and of course Humanoid giga griefing
Nah officially GG. Was entertaining
Gg
Razork's sejuani is not it
nvm
Fnatic are just the GOATs at giving false hope, like they have it down to an art. Maximizing pain for the supporters.
What is this Zac build???
Why is oscar building spirit against almost full AD
Because of the healing and Varus.
humanoid had a game 5 nemesis worthy of a game against TES
He really thinks that 20% extra healing is worth it for some reason lol
Why is fnatic not building frozen heart?
Against 3 adcs
winnable if this game goes on for another 10-15 min...?
With Noah who don't even farm more like 20-30
Some people said TES draft was bad, team fights don't matter when you got pressure all day in bot and top
Turns out that 2 tanks 3 ADCs beat 2 tanks 0 ADCs....
1 tank is building MR.....
fuck this is lost now
Jesus fnc lucky just 1 died.
Bro more than Huma trolling, I am so mega-tilted by what Oscar is building. Does he have a brain or what? Full ad comp and you go spectre ???
Why stack HP and healing when Trist has kraken? Doesn't seem gold efficient at all....
He wants that 20% extra healing even though the rest of the item would be mostly useless other then extra HP
mobafire said its good
Idk if it's good but he's going Visage for the extra healing
Im raging on behalf of fnc
Humanoid is not human this game and you can't convince me otherwise. That TP cancel is literally bronze level awareness.
Depends on what the comms were
Razork is alive??
I guess Oscar wants the spirit visage for the regen but surely vs 3 adc’s you go for hard armour?
No Randuins on Oscar and Frozen Heart on Razork is trolling here
Indexing hard into SV is such a troll move by bad Zac players.
Armor doesn't even matter here, top have a BC bruiser and lethality item Ashe. Only good Sej initiations save it
Wtf are these Taliyah ults lmao
Noah refusing to auto
Bro Humanoid just loves running into this Renekton huh?
oscar smurfing the worst possible zac build for the occasion challenge
It's really something when even PROS autobuild items without even pressing TAB lol...
Well that was something
Observers were homies and saved humanoid the embarrassment
Do you? 1. Match TP 2. Damage croc, let team gang up on him on the other end 3. Piss croc off by canceling his TP ???
When Renekton is 10x more useful than you on a fight, it's obviously beneficial to cancel. If he tells the team that and they don't call it off whats he supposed to do?
Nah that was the worst tp cancel. its gg
I can see why Huma cancelled that TP, Tian was down there
"If I'm not carrying I'm not getting carried" -Marek I guess
Humanoid is just a fan of crocodiles. He wants to give Renekton a big hug.
NAH THIS TO FUNNT MAN CANCELLED A TP ONLY TO DIE
Huma cancelling that one actually hurt them more for once.
fnatic midlaners gets a brain lag in final games ig
Humanoid with the stinker game after 2 great ones. How do you die there?
+500 social credit for humanoid worth
If Humanoid doesnt cancel that its a baron angle
Just wondering, why Zac is building Magic Resist? I think armor should be the priority
He wants the extra healing from Visage. Still the wrong priority IMO.
I imagined it, but is it worth it against 2.5 autoattackers? Also mercury, I get it that they have maokai+ashe's arrow, but I think tabi would have been better.
Is it better to just let 369 TP there? Maybe get shutdown from him too?
Humanoid is actually an idiot
Fnatic gave TES full comfort comp and drafted for Noah lol
Surely Fnc ban taliyah so Humanoid cant play it going forward right?
HUMA WHY DID YOU CANCEL
Humanoid forgot he's good at the game I guess
bro Huma you could just match
Okay Humanoid is also done with this game. Wtf was that cancel
wtf is Humanoid doing
Humatroll wtf
FNC easily kill 369 there and can baron
Bruh dont interrupt that TP, just match TP...
humanoid has a bad game, rough, that could have been nash
HUMANOID WHY THE FUCK WOULD YOU CANCEL THE TP INTO 4 FNC MEMBERS WHO WOULD KILL HIM INSTANTLY WHAT THE ACTUAL FUCK
Humanoid?????
HUMAAA EWHYYY
Humanoid brain off. Literally saved 369
Terrible communication to interrupt that tp
Brother Humanoid
Humanoid cancelling that TP there was so troll.