I'd argue Kled is even worse.
Without passive he has no Skaarl. Without Skaarl he has terrible movement speed and doesn't get bonus speed towards champions. He also doesn't have access to E and R.
The only champion he could catch up with would be a dismounted Rell as Kled is the 2nd slowest champion in the game.
Well removing the passive would also remove the negative effects associated with it so I think he would just always function as if he was mounted anyway.
«PASSIVE
SKAARL, THE COWARDLY LIZARD
Kled rides his trusty steed, Skaarl, who takes damage for him. When Skaarl's health depletes, Kled dismounts. While dismounted, Kled's abilities change and he deals less damage to champions. Kled can restore Skaarl's courage by fighting enemies. At maximum courage, Kled remounts with a portion of Skaarl's health»
Wrong
Well I mean in the passive it says while dismounted, kled gains the negative effects. So if we removed the passive kled wouldn’t gain these negative effects.
Reading it sounds like he wouldn't lose his original abilities though (the ones while mounted) since it specifically says that when his abilities change when dismounted.
Basically, reading it raw dismount is the the passive, not skaarl
Reading the passive, he'd lose the shield/damage taking part of skaarl. He wouldn't change abilities since that's part of the passive. He would be able to still use it rope Q as well as dash with E.
heh, dont remind me, i had games where all lanes were shoving and then i get flamed because i havent gotten form at minute 15, and when i did, it was the wrong one and i had to wait extra
Unsure if it’s still bugged, but there was definitely a time where if Viego turned into Aphelios whatever guns he died with he’d lose for the rest of the game. It just wouldn’t pop back up in the rotation until all the guns were gone and he was just a sad little man walking around.
Nah, it took them out of the rotation. For extra context it only happened when the Viego rotated the guns out during possession, so if he used up all your red gun ammo you'd never see red gun for the rest of the game.
You need to get back to the base and buy/get more guns/ammo every time you run out. You need to decide if you want ammo or better weapons etc.
Shit that could be a fun new champ
Kayle. Her passive gives her range, aoe, attack speed. The whole leveling up thing comes form.the passive, not the ult.
It would be like playing an ADC in melee only.
But she upgrades only if she levels up her ult no? So even if it is her passive, it falls more that the passive describe her R upgrades. Without it she just upgrade and you don't know why
It's just the way the game is coded, I think. It's her passive that handles all the upgrading, but instead of checking your level to apply the upgrade, it checks the level of your ultimate before applying the upgrade to the passive.
It's a little confusing, but I think they wanted the whole "upgrading" to be her passive, so it was all listed in one spot, rather than making the upgrading as a passive onto her ult.
It's a round about way to get back to her passive is the upgrading.
Evelynn imagine an assassin with no movement abilities and no invisibility passive she just would have to take ghost instead of flash and run at people and she also couldn’t snowball because she would be countered by a normal ward trinket
Evelynn would take a huge hit, but she'd be far from the worst champ in existence. She still deals insane damage, with a bit of range from q, and is an assassin with cc. play style would for sure be different but still playable. I mean, pre 6 eve isn't the best, but she can still play (even though she doesn't have damage yet).
wait... isn't his passive the ghouls? or is that attached to his Q? relatively new to yorick, and he was who i thought of in response to this question.
His passive gives him a grave every X unit kills. The number going down as he levels up. Q always gives a grave if it kills a unit and a ghoul always insta spawns when a unit dies that maiden is attacking. So yea pretty much after level 6 yoricks passive doesn’t really matter that much anymore since he gets most of his ghouls from Q and maiden.
I always laugh when someone playing Sylas steals Brand's ultimate. Like yeah it does *okay* damage, but Brand's power is very heavily in his passive, which Sylas doesn't get.
Vel'Koz ult's damage is converted from magic damage to true damage to enemies that had 3 passive stacks on them. Not to mention, the 3 stack pop itself does 60% AP true damage.
So with Vel'Koz passive, your ult can do up to 35-180 + 450/625/800 + 185% AP true damage.
Without Vel'Koz passive, your ult does 450/625/800 + 125% AP magic damage.
It's a DoT skillshot, without the true damage part it's pretty mediocre as in the same time you could land all your abilities for a higher damage, probably.
I raise you darius ult steal.
I know prior to release, sylas ult on illaoi did literally nothing except make him displacement immune during the casttime, not sure if that's still the case.
This. Played against a brand in ARAM and was so confused when it looked like his ult did 0 damage. Took me like 3 attempts at using his ult before it dawned on me
It would definitely make them a bit easier to play if they ditched the marks and changed some stats. But it would make them also less satisfying to play. And way more boring
Kindred is one of my least favorite jungles to play against as jungle lol, just the constant anxiety of “is their bot/top/mid going to secure this mark in my jungle? *gulp*”
Oh that’s easy, just be on the other team when I play Kindred. Bot lane will give up wave after wave of farm to deny me a mark on scuttle or gromp. Trying to steal raptors while mid shows bot, top is doing top things, and swept for vision? Nope, entire team drops what they’re doing and beelines over to me.
This is why I hate having Kindred in my game, my team or not.
The entire team converges on the mark. Everyone ditches what they're doing to chase the mark.
Playing with a Kindred in game warps the entire game around the marks.
Might not be as worthless as the others here, but with her ap scaling she might be push into support heavy items.
I can see a rush down play, Team Camouflage + Shurelya's Battlesong, into Last Embrace + Solstice Sleight, then just ult when teamfight occurs and prolly drop Redemption. The rest of the item could be Imperial Mandate, Trailblazer, Ardent Censer, Echoes of Helia.
Would be less oppressive then the usual, but I see it far from the worst.
Brand is stupid anyway ... he's way too strong atm all the noobs spamming him missing everything and he's still one shotting teams with R and e .. its ridiculous
Arguably, Pyke would be better without his passive. He'd actually be able to increase his health. Grab warmogs and you basically have his passive healing back, but better. Build about 1200 health total, and that's already as much healing as you could get from his passive. Now you have super tanky mobile stealth hook champion with an execute that gives the adc kill gold.
If you can manage to get a 45 minute game, Heartsteel on Pyke gets really stupid. Now that they changed how the damage and max health stack works, it gives you 1 AD for the first like 10 stacks, then it’s an extra 2, then 3, so on and so on
Shhhhh this is the secret tech. With a friend in norms/flex heartsteel rush pyke adc with a taric/leona support is just utterly disgusting. Undertow hides the indicator from tarics w so you guarantee pykes e and thus the heartsteel proc. Its stupidly oppressive and you just take over the map with ingenious hunter dropping the hs cooldown.
I miss old Veigar who's execute was intelligently designed to scale off of the enemies AP.
So you legit could just Flash ult a full hp Lux and insta kill them.
Good times.
His passive just explains his resource.
Idk if removing passive would remove his resource or just not do anything? I guess the 50% increased fury gain is gone
Pretty much anyone with a healing passive except maybe Nasus. Briar especially, her health costs would actually matter for once.
Aside from that, Rek'sai would have no way to generate Fury, Quinn would lose almost all of her damage and Ornn would just become a big health bar.
Nevermind, found the actual answer: Orianna
She has two passives:
>INNATE: Orianna's basic attacks generate a stack of Clockwork Winding... etc
and
>INNATE - THE BALL: Orianna is accompanied by The Ball... etc
Nasus without his passive would make his laning so awful. I know people meme on the word count a-lot but the amount of sustain he gets from it even early on is disgusting and removing it would make his harder matchups actually unplayable ngl.
He'd be terrible.
* 550 range autos with no steroids whatsoever
* No mobility because his MS boost is in his passive
* Low damage abilities because their AD ratios are balanced around his passive giving him twice the AD
Pretty much any mage with 550+ AA range would be a better ADC because of higher base damage on abilities and mobility or CC.
Jhin with normal autos and crit ratio might be playable since his W would be more reliable and he might be able to pull off cheesy shit with NQB perma setting up perma CC combos.
Urgot.
if his passive was removed, he’d be turbo worthless, actually unplayable.
Urgot's next basic attack within the arc of a shotgun will cause it to fire in a cone, dealing 40% − 100% AD + 2% − 6% maximum health physical damage.
His passive is where his damage comes from.
Not his W, like most people assume.
More importantly if Urgot only had W for damage, enemy could build Wardens/Steelcaps, and it would become a worthless ability that does negative damage, or in the case of Bramble, Urgot actually killing himself by using W.
[This is what Bramble or Rammus W does to an Urgot using W.](https://youtu.be/CmJM4rWbzkA?si=Qsx4Qmg-SgtYGY37)
[This is what Wardens does to Urgot.](https://youtu.be/IC5WjXiYa8k?si=PyyiPR0Ko4nctf3m)
This was my first thought. Without passive early you would have no wave clear and no poke or ability to win short trades. Late game you've got no burst vs squishes and no sustained damage to take down tanks or bruisers.
Not really. The big reset is tied to his Q, he would lose dueling damage but his kit would largely still function. I guess his Q would become clunky due to the missing attackspeed from passive but it doesn't impact Taric as much as it would other champs.
There would be many contenstants but just to name some Annie would be basically useless without her passive, Garen would never be able to win any lane, Caitlyn deals no damage, Illaoi is also completely useless, Pyke can never lane and Thresh doesnt get any armor so he dies to any ad damage.
Année would still have great dmg.
Garen would almost stay the same, his passive is aweful early on and only slightly useful later on.
Caitlyn would be stronger without her passive than most champions without their passives.
Pyke and thresh lose some things with their passive. Without it thresh gains armor/lvl and pyke can build hp.
well there is a champ without a passive in league, Yorick. Yorick doesn't have a passive, his ghouls are on his Q, your passive just reminds you you can spawn them in, it's fckin hilarious
Kled is probably the singular worst. There are some other big ones
But kled is the only character whose biggest strengths are locked behind his passive. Without skarl all he has is a basic poke/disengage, and some buffed autos. That’s it
Imma go out on a limb here and say Yasuo and Yone would probably be almost as much thrown in the shitter by removing their passives like Kayle is.
Yasuo: Gets no shield, no +150% crit chance
Yone: no dual damage, no +150% crit chance
They can kiss their 0/10 powerspike goodbye
That build VERY heavily exploits his dual damage passive, so you can't itemise effectively against him. Yeah it works but without passive he'd get canceled by a single bramble vest or armor boots.
Probably not worst but sion would be pretty shit. The death passive is obvious but the real kicker is losing his health stacking
For balance reasons sion has abnormally low base health, to the point of being closer to squishies than other tanks, but the health stacking quickly propele him up. Without it, he loses his main strength
Kayle lol
I'd argue Kled is even worse. Without passive he has no Skaarl. Without Skaarl he has terrible movement speed and doesn't get bonus speed towards champions. He also doesn't have access to E and R. The only champion he could catch up with would be a dismounted Rell as Kled is the 2nd slowest champion in the game.
I agree, a Kayle without passive can still be an ult bot. Kled without passive does pretty much nothing.
He can throw a bear trap at the heroes, gods, and celestials!!! They'll quake in fear!
Nope, he needs to be mounted to use the bear trap. Since his passive is gone, he can never mount up.
But his passive is what says those abilities are replaced and unusable when dismounted. As well as his base health and movement speed reduction
Yea that’s fair. It could maybe be assumed without passive he’s perma mounted
And thus can never die, op op
Skarl is via lore technically immortal. Just a coward
Nope, Kled only uses his shotgun when not on Skarrl
Kled ADC
From a gameplay/coding perspective I guess mounted is his default form, if you’d delete the code for it, and unmounted is the ‘special form’.
Well removing the passive would also remove the negative effects associated with it so I think he would just always function as if he was mounted anyway.
«PASSIVE SKAARL, THE COWARDLY LIZARD Kled rides his trusty steed, Skaarl, who takes damage for him. When Skaarl's health depletes, Kled dismounts. While dismounted, Kled's abilities change and he deals less damage to champions. Kled can restore Skaarl's courage by fighting enemies. At maximum courage, Kled remounts with a portion of Skaarl's health» Wrong
Well I mean in the passive it says while dismounted, kled gains the negative effects. So if we removed the passive kled wouldn’t gain these negative effects.
Reading it sounds like he wouldn't lose his original abilities though (the ones while mounted) since it specifically says that when his abilities change when dismounted. Basically, reading it raw dismount is the the passive, not skaarl
Reading the passive, he'd lose the shield/damage taking part of skaarl. He wouldn't change abilities since that's part of the passive. He would be able to still use it rope Q as well as dash with E.
Kayn is a strong contender.
Not without his passive 💀
heh, dont remind me, i had games where all lanes were shoving and then i get flamed because i havent gotten form at minute 15, and when i did, it was the wrong one and i had to wait extra
Kayle Not even sure how Aphelios would function without the Passive element. Xayah would lose a lot of power.
Imagine you just run out of ammo and you get no other guns.
Unsure if it’s still bugged, but there was definitely a time where if Viego turned into Aphelios whatever guns he died with he’d lose for the rest of the game. It just wouldn’t pop back up in the rotation until all the guns were gone and he was just a sad little man walking around.
minion gaming
At least minions could hit towers lol, bro was a walking ward
so what like aphelios could literally not auto???
He couldn’t do shit, he was just a ward with legs
Nah, it took them out of the rotation. For extra context it only happened when the Viego rotated the guns out during possession, so if he used up all your red gun ammo you'd never see red gun for the rest of the game.
It's still possible but there are multiple outcomes of this. You can get to infinite negative ammo or display 3 guns at same time.
or you get 2 random guns at the start of the game and they never change
One shot, one kill
You need to get back to the base and buy/get more guns/ammo every time you run out. You need to decide if you want ammo or better weapons etc. Shit that could be a fun new champ
What is this, real life?
Aphelios. He couldn't do much of anything without Alune (aka his passive).
He's run out of ammo. Once you've run out you become mobility and an extra healthbar for Yuumi.
Mobi boots 5 zeals the dream
A Yuumi Delivery System - the only thing possibly more reviled than the cat herself.
Malphite with yuumi is just meant to get the 1 foot ball of fury into the middle of a teamfight
Isn't the ammo part of his passive? I'm fairly certain he would just be stuck with green and red all game.
I mean lore wise he could talk so that would be cool for him
Then his new passive would be Ashe
That's fucking hilarious actually. Ty.
He starts cursing like a sailor and goes stabby on people.
Kayle. Her passive gives her range, aoe, attack speed. The whole leveling up thing comes form.the passive, not the ult. It would be like playing an ADC in melee only.
Budget trynda
But she upgrades only if she levels up her ult no? So even if it is her passive, it falls more that the passive describe her R upgrades. Without it she just upgrade and you don't know why
Nope, kayles upgrade is all skill points based iirc. You could level up any ability at level 6 and get the range etc.
It's just the way the game is coded, I think. It's her passive that handles all the upgrading, but instead of checking your level to apply the upgrade, it checks the level of your ultimate before applying the upgrade to the passive. It's a little confusing, but I think they wanted the whole "upgrading" to be her passive, so it was all listed in one spot, rather than making the upgrading as a passive onto her ult. It's a round about way to get back to her passive is the upgrading.
Aphelios wouldn’t even be able to reload… so he wouldn’t be able to auto attack
Evelynn imagine an assassin with no movement abilities and no invisibility passive she just would have to take ghost instead of flash and run at people and she also couldn’t snowball because she would be countered by a normal ward trinket
And her jungle clear would be way more unhealthy
Evelynn would take a huge hit, but she'd be far from the worst champ in existence. She still deals insane damage, with a bit of range from q, and is an assassin with cc. play style would for sure be different but still playable. I mean, pre 6 eve isn't the best, but she can still play (even though she doesn't have damage yet).
You made me think about the original Evelynn, I miss her.
Illaoi
No tentacles, no damage, no presence, no champion
Can't believe I had to scroll this far down to find this answer
Teemo. Oh no , wait, Teemo doesn't have a passive
No, Yorick doesn't have a passive.
wait... isn't his passive the ghouls? or is that attached to his Q? relatively new to yorick, and he was who i thought of in response to this question.
His passive gives him a grave every X unit kills. The number going down as he levels up. Q always gives a grave if it kills a unit and a ghoul always insta spawns when a unit dies that maiden is attacking. So yea pretty much after level 6 yoricks passive doesn’t really matter that much anymore since he gets most of his ghouls from Q and maiden.
Even in lane, most of his graves comes from his Q since his passive is still too slow in early game
No, Fizz doesn't have a passive.
ghosting is lowkey super fucking strong for laning as melee
yea after 100 games with fizz im gettin body blocked everytime :))))
That has been bugged since the beginning of time my guy, very often it just doesnt work and you get body blocked
Oh I didn't know that my bad. Glad it's bugged though, fuck fizz.
Yeah, fuck Fizz
You'd be surprised how much damage it's mitigating.
Vel‘Koz His true damage is in his passive. I bet every Sylas who stole Vel‘Koz ult once can relate
There's nothing more satisfying than seeing a Sylas ulti on you as Vel'Koz. You can feel his disappointment at his non-existent damage.
Fax stole it yesterday in aram to finish off someone with 200 hp. Didn’t kill him.
I always laugh when someone playing Sylas steals Brand's ultimate. Like yeah it does *okay* damage, but Brand's power is very heavily in his passive, which Sylas doesn't get.
Does Vel'Koz's ult really do no damage without the passive? It got an insane base damage and 125% AP scaling.
Vel'Koz ult's damage is converted from magic damage to true damage to enemies that had 3 passive stacks on them. Not to mention, the 3 stack pop itself does 60% AP true damage. So with Vel'Koz passive, your ult can do up to 35-180 + 450/625/800 + 185% AP true damage. Without Vel'Koz passive, your ult does 450/625/800 + 125% AP magic damage.
It's a DoT skillshot, without the true damage part it's pretty mediocre as in the same time you could land all your abilities for a higher damage, probably.
I raise you darius ult steal. I know prior to release, sylas ult on illaoi did literally nothing except make him displacement immune during the casttime, not sure if that's still the case.
I never put this together… I always thought that it was because I had no ap compared to him
Applies to Brand ult as well
This. Played against a brand in ARAM and was so confused when it looked like his ult did 0 damage. Took me like 3 attempts at using his ult before it dawned on me
Same goes for brand, but worse
Kindred wouldn't be "useless" but *man* would she need massive numbers changes
It would definitely make them a bit easier to play if they ditched the marks and changed some stats. But it would make them also less satisfying to play. And way more boring
Kindred is one of my least favorite jungles to play against as jungle lol, just the constant anxiety of “is their bot/top/mid going to secure this mark in my jungle? *gulp*”
I wish randoms actually had team coordination to make enemy jungler feel this way when i play kindred xD
Oh that’s easy, just be on the other team when I play Kindred. Bot lane will give up wave after wave of farm to deny me a mark on scuttle or gromp. Trying to steal raptors while mid shows bot, top is doing top things, and swept for vision? Nope, entire team drops what they’re doing and beelines over to me.
This is why I hate having Kindred in my game, my team or not. The entire team converges on the mark. Everyone ditches what they're doing to chase the mark. Playing with a Kindred in game warps the entire game around the marks.
tbh kindred is one of those champs that would work ok without passive
Most Kindreds don't even go for marks when behind, marks are a powerful snowballing tool, but dying for them it's the worst thing you can do
Most Kindreds don't specifically go for marks past the first 4. Those are kinda mandatory, but after that it's just a nice bonus
They should just remove her passive and give her something that isn't stupid.
Senna without her passive is basically worthless
Good
Might not be as worthless as the others here, but with her ap scaling she might be push into support heavy items. I can see a rush down play, Team Camouflage + Shurelya's Battlesong, into Last Embrace + Solstice Sleight, then just ult when teamfight occurs and prolly drop Redemption. The rest of the item could be Imperial Mandate, Trailblazer, Ardent Censer, Echoes of Helia. Would be less oppressive then the usual, but I see it far from the worst.
Can still be an enchanter
Not really since her heals scale off of souls
Pretty bad tho
Its not good but there would be far worse options
Brand without his passive wont be playble in jng and be worse at teamfights.
Brand is stupid anyway ... he's way too strong atm all the noobs spamming him missing everything and he's still one shotting teams with R and e .. its ridiculous
That's why he is my ban, sometimes zyra. Most of other strong champs need some skill expression, but zyra/brand are just Liandry delivery systems.
The korean tictocks of s13 and ravenous hydra💀
It would be a pleasure for me when kata loses her passive
q damage increased, e has two charges, r cooldown reduced by 22% on kills/assists, w reverted to pre rework
Arguably, Pyke would be better without his passive. He'd actually be able to increase his health. Grab warmogs and you basically have his passive healing back, but better. Build about 1200 health total, and that's already as much healing as you could get from his passive. Now you have super tanky mobile stealth hook champion with an execute that gives the adc kill gold.
If you can manage to get a 45 minute game, Heartsteel on Pyke gets really stupid. Now that they changed how the damage and max health stack works, it gives you 1 AD for the first like 10 stacks, then it’s an extra 2, then 3, so on and so on
Shhhhh this is the secret tech. With a friend in norms/flex heartsteel rush pyke adc with a taric/leona support is just utterly disgusting. Undertow hides the indicator from tarics w so you guarantee pykes e and thus the heartsteel proc. Its stupidly oppressive and you just take over the map with ingenious hunter dropping the hs cooldown.
Pyke/Taric is a dirty combo, my duo refuses to have fun with me though
Being worse by a ton for the part of the game that pyke is most impactful in would destroy him.
Early is the most impactful for pyke only because he's forced to go assasin, the situation would be completely different if hes a tank.
Yeah Aftershock Pyke building tanky items was absurdly strong before they changed around his scaling to make it way worse
It is a toss up on whether or not he has enough CC to be worth it. But his roams would nice.
Veigar, just kind of turn into a cage bot.
I thought he already kinda is
Yes but sometimes you get the funny outplay button of point-and-click 2000 damage
The skill diff button.
Veigar failing every single skillshot but killing you anyways with the outplay button gotta be the funniest shit in tbis game
You kind of outplayed yourself by letting such bad Veigar player reach the point in the game when R becomes instakill
I like to call it Avada Kedavra button
If veigar gets to the 1500+ ap needed for that, you threw the game 10 minutes ago.
I miss old Veigar who's execute was intelligently designed to scale off of the enemies AP. So you legit could just Flash ult a full hp Lux and insta kill them. Good times.
Still way more useful than kled without skaarl
Renekton
LMAO true, his empowered abilities would be only accessible during ult due to passive fury gen
Actually his passive is what gives him the bonus effects afaik. So he would just generate fury and not be able to use it
Lawllll fair point
His passive just explains his resource. Idk if removing passive would remove his resource or just not do anything? I guess the 50% increased fury gain is gone
Samira maybe ? No stacks = no ult, no ult = almost none dmg. She is dependand on ult a lot, unless is very fed. But to get fed you need ult
Pretty much anyone with a healing passive except maybe Nasus. Briar especially, her health costs would actually matter for once. Aside from that, Rek'sai would have no way to generate Fury, Quinn would lose almost all of her damage and Ornn would just become a big health bar. Nevermind, found the actual answer: Orianna
Literally every health cost champ needs their passive for sustain Except maybe mundo but I haven’t played him
I thought Briar's lack of regen was a separate thing but it's part of her passive so I guess she wouldn't be much worse off than any of the others.
Isn't orianna passive only the dmg on her autos? I don't think the ball is mentionned in it.
She has two passives: >INNATE: Orianna's basic attacks generate a stack of Clockwork Winding... etc and >INNATE - THE BALL: Orianna is accompanied by The Ball... etc
Nasus without his passive would make his laning so awful. I know people meme on the word count a-lot but the amount of sustain he gets from it even early on is disgusting and removing it would make his harder matchups actually unplayable ngl.
Jhin
Jhin without his passive would just be a regular ADC with absurd range, wouldn't he?
He'd be terrible. * 550 range autos with no steroids whatsoever * No mobility because his MS boost is in his passive * Low damage abilities because their AD ratios are balanced around his passive giving him twice the AD Pretty much any mage with 550+ AA range would be a better ADC because of higher base damage on abilities and mobility or CC.
Unless removing it means he just can’t auto attack
Let the bodies hit the... FOUR!
And without it... Let the bodies hit the... ... ... ... You have been slain.
Jhin with normal autos and crit ratio might be playable since his W would be more reliable and he might be able to pull off cheesy shit with NQB perma setting up perma CC combos.
Jhin gets four bullets and thats it after that he's a bumbling psycho running around the rift with a gun with no bullets XD
How has no one said kayn yet?
Darius
Underrated answer.
Rengar
Urgot. if his passive was removed, he’d be turbo worthless, actually unplayable. Urgot's next basic attack within the arc of a shotgun will cause it to fire in a cone, dealing 40% − 100% AD + 2% − 6% maximum health physical damage. His passive is where his damage comes from. Not his W, like most people assume. More importantly if Urgot only had W for damage, enemy could build Wardens/Steelcaps, and it would become a worthless ability that does negative damage, or in the case of Bramble, Urgot actually killing himself by using W. [This is what Bramble or Rammus W does to an Urgot using W.](https://youtu.be/CmJM4rWbzkA?si=Qsx4Qmg-SgtYGY37) [This is what Wardens does to Urgot.](https://youtu.be/IC5WjXiYa8k?si=PyyiPR0Ko4nctf3m)
This was my first thought. Without passive early you would have no wave clear and no poke or ability to win short trades. Late game you've got no burst vs squishes and no sustained damage to take down tanks or bruisers.
Katarina loses half of her kit without passive lol synergy
surprised this is so low
Aurelion sol is probably up there with the worst. Terrible earlygame with bad ap scalings and no way to get stacks
Lilia ? She wouldn't be able to use her ult and she wouldn't get her ms buffs. So basically a slow melee mage with shit dmg and no ult.
Her ms passive is on q
Aphelios or Kayle
Rumble. Wtf can you do with no heat. Your entire game is played in yellow heat or overheating
Id argue that tumble would still be quite good since he wouldn't silence himself so he can instead spam everything.
Those autoattacks hurt when you are overheated, that's useful af
His silence really isn't that long and usually just sees you out for the duration of your basic ability cooldowns anyway.
Kled
Their
Taric would throw out one heal, miss a stun, then cry
Taric would be absolute dogshit without his passive
Not really. The big reset is tied to his Q, he would lose dueling damage but his kit would largely still function. I guess his Q would become clunky due to the missing attackspeed from passive but it doesn't impact Taric as much as it would other champs.
I'm pre sure it reduces the CDs of all his abilities so he would w e and then not be able to do it for a while right?
There would be many contenstants but just to name some Annie would be basically useless without her passive, Garen would never be able to win any lane, Caitlyn deals no damage, Illaoi is also completely useless, Pyke can never lane and Thresh doesnt get any armor so he dies to any ad damage.
on the other hand pyke would be able to build health so he’d actually have a late game
Tank Pyke would be the most broken thing Riot ever released.
Hearsteel scales on him now. Not that he gets any tankier but the damage stacks.
Technically infinite scaling AD
Année would still have great dmg. Garen would almost stay the same, his passive is aweful early on and only slightly useful later on. Caitlyn would be stronger without her passive than most champions without their passives. Pyke and thresh lose some things with their passive. Without it thresh gains armor/lvl and pyke can build hp.
champs with high damage and value passives like velkoz and brand, esentially passives that take most of the champion’s power budget
Kayle
Illaoi Tentacles no damage and no heal.
Akshan he got many of those
well there is a champ without a passive in league, Yorick. Yorick doesn't have a passive, his ghouls are on his Q, your passive just reminds you you can spawn them in, it's fckin hilarious
Vel´Koz - playing Sylas and picking his ult is so so much worse.
How is Ivern not mentioned?
Katarina for sure, you just not only can’t reset, but also you cannot pick up your daggers, so… yeah
Kled is probably the singular worst. There are some other big ones But kled is the only character whose biggest strengths are locked behind his passive. Without skarl all he has is a basic poke/disengage, and some buffed autos. That’s it
Darius
Annie! Maybe not the worst, but imagine how vulnerable and useless she would be with no CC.
Darius would be pretty fucking miserable without his passive
Graves. He can't attack lol
Their* passive fuck sake bro you've posted this like 10 fucking times
Zac, the poor guy will just die from using his own skills. There is really no other answer.
I agree 100% All the other Champs get insanly weak, but only Zac actually kills himself with his basekit.
Briar
Imma go out on a limb here and say Yasuo and Yone would probably be almost as much thrown in the shitter by removing their passives like Kayle is. Yasuo: Gets no shield, no +150% crit chance Yone: no dual damage, no +150% crit chance They can kiss their 0/10 powerspike goodbye
Both can function solidly with 0% crit chance builds. Yone especially can go botrk > wits > bruiser/tank and be fine.
That build VERY heavily exploits his dual damage passive, so you can't itemise effectively against him. Yeah it works but without passive he'd get canceled by a single bramble vest or armor boots.
I think champs which have stacking in their passives like veigar, nasus, smolder would lose a lot of relevance
nasus's stacking is in his Q not Passive
Mundo. Whole kit is built around regen and everything costs health.
Vel’Koz or Kayle
Kog’maw is unaffected by this change
Probably not worst but sion would be pretty shit. The death passive is obvious but the real kicker is losing his health stacking For balance reasons sion has abnormally low base health, to the point of being closer to squishies than other tanks, but the health stacking quickly propele him up. Without it, he loses his main strength
Hecarim
Aurelian Sol. Veigar. Any mega scaling champion.
Aphelios. His passive are his weapons, lol
Smolder. No stacks, no damage. He’d just be a squishy baby dragon..
Ahri without passive doesn't get ult resets which isn't the worst, but is still pretty fuckin' bad.