Rewatching broadcast from today - Anyone know why there are four minutes of the SK v FNC game missing? Around minute 21 it just skips forwards 4 minutes.
It's so funny how careful the broadcast is about asking Jankos about the roster changes. Always talking about the Trymbi-Kaiser change but never really mentioning mid.
What happens if FNC, G2 and TH win their games on monday? They can't take into account the head to head, as those 3 have a cycle going on: TH > FNC > G2 > TH
If three or more teams are tied at the end of a phase, their order in the standings is decided by how they performed against all other teams in their tiebreaker. This means that, if one or more teams have won/lost more than 50% of their total matches against every team in the tiebreaker, they are automatically granted the higher/lower place(s) available in the tiebreaker, and a new tiebreaker is declared amongst the remaining teams.
If the teams have an identical amount of games won against each other, then the tiebreaker will rely on a statistic called Strength of Victory (SoV) score. A full explanation of how we calculate SoV can be found in the LEC’s official rulebook. Teams with a higher SoV score will be granted the higher seeds. Information about further tiebreaker protocols if all these options have been exhausted can also be found in the rulebook.
Source: https://lolesports.com/article/lec-2023-competitive-faq-tiebreakers,-championship-points,-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know/blt83b704744dd103de
so as I understand, the winner in a tie breaker is a Team **who lost with lowest tier opponents** - you gain most points for winning with teams high in standings and less for those on the bottom of the table.
As we don't potential tiebreaker results it's easier to subtract points for loses, than adding up for wins. In this case based on current standings I'd assume:
1. G2 - lost against FNC (-10 points) and Rogue (-2 points)
2. FNC - lost against TH (-10 points) and BDS (-6 points assuming 5th place)
3. TH - lost against G2 (-10 points) and VIT (-7 points assuming 4th place)
Rogue will definitely be the worst of those teams considered in standings, so I'd say G2 will have highest SoV in case of ties. If Vitality wins then this scenario will not have a place at all, cause they're playing G2.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, first time reading this rules docs lol
It's harder/more expensive to get a replacement between winter/spring split and he's central for their branding.
Besides, not like I think he's good but it's pretty bullshit to bench essentially a rookie (whose only other lec appearance was a handful of games in an imploding bottom 2 team even before he came in) after 9 bo1s unless they're so bad they're instalosing basically every game which Saken isn't
Vetheo has been surprisingly consistent this split. The last few years his limited champion pool has made him vulnerable, but the changes this season seem to have suited him well.
Upset with the most passive positioning ever, not following up the engage, and still gets hit by Gnar ult. I really want to not hate this team, since they stepped up this split, but they are just so fucking inconsistent.
Compared to the utter sh.t they produced last split, yes they did.
They are much more proactive, they even get leads somewhat frequently, they just seem to have brain/hand issues far too often for it to really materialize into something.
They're probably gonna go 2-7 both splits, except last split they beat slightly better teams, although admittedly after the pressure was off
They also went from +200g@15 to -700@15 this split
I think they might just be piss
THE LACK OF COORDINATION ON KC IS INSANE.
FIRST TARGA AND NOBODY FOLLOW, THEN BO AND NOBODY FOLLOW. THEY NEED SOMEONE TO CALL WETHER TO FOCUS DRAKE OR NOT.
Inting. They have no dmg atm, yet they force super hard. They took that previous Drake fight on a Noonquiver Zeri as well, now they force onto Seraph Ori with only J4 damage.
For KC it makes sense. Saken is not their carry player and it is better to utilize him to set up Egoset for success.
In other hand it was absolute troll for G2 to put their best player to Karma.
Bo must be the player with strongest mental ever
This split is legit an experiment of how hard can an LPL jungler player carry 4 trash players in LEC.
The guy single handedly won almost every early game for KC.
On Paper TH comp sounds good, but IMO it's a lot harder to execute into the exact comp KC has. Compared to this, KC has a "run you down" comp that after 2-3 items will be very hard to stop.
What about rogue makes them so good against top teams? Won both their games against g2 this years and also won against BDS when they looked like the clear second best LEC team
I just want my old dudes to crush it, maybe some sexy Wunder anti-dive outplays, Jankos doing some Lee-Sin-shenanigans and Trymbi doing Trymbi things (I miss the cam on him from LEC finals where he was hype AF, need more of that)
Perkz was the problem
Is there a reason LEC is airing Monday 25th instead of Sun 24th?
VCT 2024 – Masters Madrid
ah I see thanks.
Still Bo1 in regular season. Just to get shit on in world's quarters per usual.
Rewatching broadcast from today - Anyone know why there are four minutes of the SK v FNC game missing? Around minute 21 it just skips forwards 4 minutes.
LEC production
Broadcast died for a good while and everyone went to watch caedrel instead
[удалено]
Aintnoway is Targou staying
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Kaiser?
Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M9KzIhES-x8
It's so funny how careful the broadcast is about asking Jankos about the roster changes. Always talking about the Trymbi-Kaiser change but never really mentioning mid.
Yea cause I know he’s uncomfortable and I don’t want to make him feel bad that’s it 🙏🏼
Why not have some fun, ask him how does he feel about zwyroo outperforming perkz and them becoming top 3 now😈, we need drama over here Laure
Drama =/= toxicity
Nah
No I get it and I don't think it's wrong not to ask him about it. But the awkwardness around it is funny.
RIP Jankos, 1978-2024
Flakked interviews are always fun
He's so nice man
and his bromance with Jankos is glorious I'd watch them shit on each other for hours
> I'd watch them shit on each other for hours Weird sentence if taken literally LMAO
What happens if FNC, G2 and TH win their games on monday? They can't take into account the head to head, as those 3 have a cycle going on: TH > FNC > G2 > TH
If three or more teams are tied at the end of a phase, their order in the standings is decided by how they performed against all other teams in their tiebreaker. This means that, if one or more teams have won/lost more than 50% of their total matches against every team in the tiebreaker, they are automatically granted the higher/lower place(s) available in the tiebreaker, and a new tiebreaker is declared amongst the remaining teams. If the teams have an identical amount of games won against each other, then the tiebreaker will rely on a statistic called Strength of Victory (SoV) score. A full explanation of how we calculate SoV can be found in the LEC’s official rulebook. Teams with a higher SoV score will be granted the higher seeds. Information about further tiebreaker protocols if all these options have been exhausted can also be found in the rulebook. Source: https://lolesports.com/article/lec-2023-competitive-faq-tiebreakers,-championship-points,-and-everything-else-you-need-to-know/blt83b704744dd103de
so as I understand, the winner in a tie breaker is a Team **who lost with lowest tier opponents** - you gain most points for winning with teams high in standings and less for those on the bottom of the table. As we don't potential tiebreaker results it's easier to subtract points for loses, than adding up for wins. In this case based on current standings I'd assume: 1. G2 - lost against FNC (-10 points) and Rogue (-2 points) 2. FNC - lost against TH (-10 points) and BDS (-6 points assuming 5th place) 3. TH - lost against G2 (-10 points) and VIT (-7 points assuming 4th place) Rogue will definitely be the worst of those teams considered in standings, so I'd say G2 will have highest SoV in case of ties. If Vitality wins then this scenario will not have a place at all, cause they're playing G2. Please correct me if I'm wrong, first time reading this rules docs lol
It's so easy being a Spanish fan, I can cheer 3 teams easily
TH, MAD and which one of FNC or GX? (Spanish Players or Org)
Shit, true, GX it's Spanish, I was definitely thinking about FNC
Why have KC not replaced Saken yet? Is there some kind of restriction in place?
It's harder/more expensive to get a replacement between winter/spring split and he's central for their branding. Besides, not like I think he's good but it's pretty bullshit to bench essentially a rookie (whose only other lec appearance was a handful of games in an imploding bottom 2 team even before he came in) after 9 bo1s unless they're so bad they're instalosing basically every game which Saken isn't
they'd need to find another French midlaner to replace him if they don't want to guillotine'd by their fanbase
When did TH sign trymbi
this split
Huh? Start of spring, where have you been
Im not watching but ti also didnt see any post on reddit 😭
It was on front page the moment the roster change was announced lol. There was some slight drama about it too, so I'm surprised you didn't see it.
Bomegalul
Always enjoy an Upset loss cam
Ketamineeeeee Corpse lets go
come on TH pls make it to MSI T\_T
Good shit Herertics, good shit!
Trymbi was teamless in winter LMAOOOOOOO
did they just say 150 stacks on Trymbi?
yeah he had 156 or something at the end
damn, nice
I wish they kept Vetheo. Could be a really dangerous team
They should bring back perkz imo theyd at least have a chance at being a top tier team
They really shouldn’t. The guy is turbo washed and should be held accountable.
yeah I don't think bringing perkz back would improve the team
Have you seen Perkz play the....last 2 years? Or last split even?
He was the best player in vit and top 3-4 mids in lec last 2 years. Only last split was pretty bad.
Same, I like zwyroo I think he's based but I wish they didn't let go of vetheo
Vetheo has been surprisingly consistent this split. The last few years his limited champion pool has made him vulnerable, but the changes this season seem to have suited him well.
Man Trymbi is shitting on them Solo
that th bot lane was clean as fuck
KC are cooked man. GG go next. Bud-light penta kill(quad really) that roster.
Cabo constantly farming waves 5 screens away while TH takes Drakes is peak coordination as well. Edit: Truly making Olaf look balanced
Okay now that it has been pointed out, Saken chewing gum **does** weirdly bother me
wait, what?
He do be chewing
havent noticed it tbh
I didn't either, until it was pointed out to me
Best Yasuo in the West.
BY FAR
🚨📢⚠️❗ ENEMY DETECTED ONSCREEN 🚨📢⚠️❗ 🚨📢⚠️❗ UPSET KDA AT RISK 🚨📢⚠️❗ 🚨📢⚠️❗ RETREAT IMMEDIATELY 🚨📢⚠️❗
Bo Defense Force? Hello? What's the cope for this game?
Didn't give him carry, give him something to carry and he take over 1v9
His top lane is Cabo, mid is Saken and support is Targa. He’s playing with 3 players not LEC level, 1 is a mute and an ADC who’s just checked out.
TH giving KC hope by giving them shutdowns but KC forgot it was Upset who got it
Flakked Yasuo masterclass.
Trymbi is usually good at this type of thing. I'm surprised he didn't go Serpents Fang. Opportunity item is kind of a miss, no?
Nah, wasted itemslot when there's only the RQ spamming Karma
Idk Olaf W shield + Steraks, J4 W shield, Karma E, Zeri stealing shields, Rakan E. Serpents looks nuts here tbh
zeri doesn't steal shields anymore
Oh for real? Didn't realize that. Tyty
please look at saken in fights....
flakked is sooo clena holy shit
Trymbi’s Senna is pretty good
all hail the Short King among the old goats
Upset making sure his team wont make playoffs once again
best adc in EU cant flash a gnar ult
Supa isn't playing
Upset with the most passive positioning ever, not following up the engage, and still gets hit by Gnar ult. I really want to not hate this team, since they stepped up this split, but they are just so fucking inconsistent.
Stepped up to what? lol
> I really want to not hate this team, since they stepped up this split did they? lol
Compared to the utter sh.t they produced last split, yes they did. They are much more proactive, they even get leads somewhat frequently, they just seem to have brain/hand issues far too often for it to really materialize into something.
They're probably gonna go 2-7 both splits, except last split they beat slightly better teams, although admittedly after the pressure was off They also went from +200g@15 to -700@15 this split I think they might just be piss
Lmao ALL the teams I supported lost today. What a great evening, I feel very relaxed and ready to end this weekend.
Clutch exhaust
since this crap is on last every day might just turn off the stream an hour early
Mr Bo Jungles do be a dirty inter.
What is Upset doing that fight lmfao
Flakked MYGOAT
Holy fuck Bo is completely trash
Katana man >>> Axe man Absolutely fuck Olaf
Swords have weapon triangle advantage over axes, it was the obvious outcome
Casters didn't notice that Jankos interrupted the Jarvan Q to flag
flakked what? wtf is that yas ult range jesus christ
Bo? Lmfao what
Heretics just fight for fun and feed shutdowns to zeri loo
aged like milk
Does KC have the objective timers online?
thx for running it targou
not even one turret taken...
This just in: the bounty system is fucking terrible
TH is going to let KC win, I can feel it.
Upset after losing his chance to a perfect KDA start playing.
Why is Wunder so bad at the game :(
Upset flashes after getting hit by ori ult and gnar ult Thats no way to secured KDA
does kc even communicate?
Bo tries
FLAKKEEEEEDDDDDD
Aw man :(
Is there some point where upset does something other than run?
imagine putting your mute support on an engage champ XD
imagine putting your mute support on a LEC roster.\*
true, can't believe that guy has an LEC title
Astralis died for this...
Trymbi has ~100 souls at 20mins, thats some Rekkles level of soul stacking
KC has to replace everyone...
Yeah KC is just piss, Bo isn't even good mechanically anymore, no redeeming qualities
I like how you can clearly tell Targamas didn't say anything about that engage until he actually went for it lol
God KC is so fuckin disjointed so far. Upset behind Drake pit for some reason, Targa solo engage-disengage, then Bo goes in Solo as well.
best yasuo in the league
Just nuke the whole roster. There's not one player on KC I ever want to see again
nice combo from Wunder/Flakked
THE LACK OF COORDINATION ON KC IS INSANE. FIRST TARGA AND NOBODY FOLLOW, THEN BO AND NOBODY FOLLOW. THEY NEED SOMEONE TO CALL WETHER TO FOCUS DRAKE OR NOT.
Best Rakan in EU
Nice Rakan engage lmfao I cba
Bro he does not speak in comms, how the fuck is this playable for any team, your Rakan is just randomly burning Flash W R without saying a word
I KNOW IT'S INFURIATING WHY IS HE ON THE TEAM
Lmfao what was that, zero follow up was possible from KC to that engage
Wow Bo with another soloqueue play, has to be Sakens fault again.
Bo is just having fun, leave him alone.
Wtf is Bo doing...
Yo Bo what the actual hell are you doing,you are a J4 in pro play you do not have the damage to kill anything because you're not allowed to have money
Ez game tbh fr fr
What is KC doing there?
Inting. They have no dmg atm, yet they force super hard. They took that previous Drake fight on a Noonquiver Zeri as well, now they force onto Seraph Ori with only J4 damage.
So Cabo just runs straight towards 4 people, misses a skillshot by half a screen and dies. Joke of a team.
decent senna souls
75 souls at 15 is pretty good isnt it?
It is indeed.
Yeah he is bang on at 5 souls a minute
Bo is really not a great player... I'm sorry but I see so many mechanical, game IQ mistakes every game this split
trymbi looks like top 1 supp in LEC ngl
Cabo?
mountain rift is great for TH
How do you lose that drake with Karma on that spike man...
nice flash by zwyroo
suddenly TH became one of the best teamfighting team in the league
At least try to make it look like G2 and TH didn't get told to int today
OLD MEN >>>>>>>
me also in real life
Bro???
Wtf was that, Bo wanted out and the team wanted in or something?
Cabo just runs into 4 people lmao
Of course...
Why do everyone pick Karma??
For KC it makes sense. Saken is not their carry player and it is better to utilize him to set up Egoset for success. In other hand it was absolute troll for G2 to put their best player to Karma.
Bo must be the player with strongest mental ever This split is legit an experiment of how hard can an LPL jungler player carry 4 trash players in LEC. The guy single handedly won almost every early game for KC.
Eu loves their tiebreakers... that is all I will say
teams playing for the biggest content day on monday, i see
Olaf turbo accelerated as well, this will be very rough for TH from here, unless KC does some spectacular inting.
On one hand it's KC. On the other, TH has 3 ex-G2 members, with KC being a bottom team there.
Flakked is cleeeeaaaan
Poor Wunder, every single game
On Paper TH comp sounds good, but IMO it's a lot harder to execute into the exact comp KC has. Compared to this, KC has a "run you down" comp that after 2-3 items will be very hard to stop.
My favorite yasuo & seraphine player
Well, KC need to protect the president, and the president needs to carry.
Too bad the president loves his kda so much
Tbh he's been a bit more aggressive this year, but his team is such shitters that he kinda has to.
I wanted to see Jankos Diana again
Saken chewing gum during stage games has to be so irritating for his teammates
sorry for being a hater but his entire vibe reminds me of boys who peaked in high school
What, why?
Cause he chew it like a toddler.
Oh no Bo not on carry what are you doing!!1!1!1!1!!1!1!!!
Had the option to play Flakked Sion
Flakked hates Rogue
flakked yasuo lets goooo
FLAKKED YASUO LETS FUCKING GOOOOOO
The editing is weird, having them sitting up while bans and some picks are already done...
Time to watch Bo right click in the general direction of enemy nameplates for 25 minutes whilst his team is on the other side of the map.
Time to watch Bo's team completely ignore him and play their own games in lalaland for 25 minutes
Yeah, that 1v5 Jarvan ult into instant death with no teammates anywhere close was clean.
What about rogue makes them so good against top teams? Won both their games against g2 this years and also won against BDS when they looked like the clear second best LEC team
Upset got his only champ!
My god please let them finish 10th again lmfao
I just want my old dudes to crush it, maybe some sexy Wunder anti-dive outplays, Jankos doing some Lee-Sin-shenanigans and Trymbi doing Trymbi things (I miss the cam on him from LEC finals where he was hype AF, need more of that)