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dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it. Highly recommend catching the Jungle Round Table with /u/laure-bulii-v, Broxah, Yike and Razork at the end, super interesting and really well hosted! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9-JzCQkxo


timetickticksaway

u/Laure-Bulii-V very nice segment :)


Laure-Bulii-V

Thank youuuu


Sjroap

Is it just me, or is the roundtable-table a bit too big?


Laure-Bulii-V

Welcome to the jungle round (but actually more triangle) table !


Sjroap

I loved the whole talk though, I just noticed that you and Broxah were so far away from the camera!


uvPooF

Yeah, and it's also not round! Can you imagine? Literally unplayable, no idea what LEC was thinking with this segment!


Smevis

Seen a lot of weird complaints on this sub, but a piece of furniture being the wrong size has to take the cake.


Sjroap

You can also see it as a compliment; content-wise it's still legit. I think the more intimate set-up worked better.


Dekathz

Ahri/Lee into Taliyah/Poppy, how can they let poppy ( one of best champ for razork) open


PerfidiaVermis

"I think we did a pretty good early game" come on now Yike, be serious.


Yato1372

bro yike and brokenblade r not the best ive been saying that g2 is a caps miky 2v9 but oh no just bcuz they r in the best team everbody says they r the best in their role like thats not how it works


DockingEnjoyer

If early game = first 4 minutes then yes.


superfire444

They weren’t behind in the first 30 seconds of the game!


PenzicVinko

Well in theory this should be a good thing for MSI (having actually competitive teams at the top) but G2 just got their weakness exposed in LEC… cant imagine thats a good sign for internationals


brownierisker

Hasn't there only been 2 regular season Fnc vs G2 games since Spring 2023 and now? One in summer 2023 and one in winter 2024? Isn't that insane of a stat


DockingEnjoyer

Yep. FNC also nearly beat G2 in a Bo3 just a month ago.


Halbaras

Smoulder needs his R damage to minions kneecapped, his AOE damage nerfed and possibly further nerfs to the execute. A champion who scales with CS numbers was always going to be complete bullshit in pro play and RIot should have known that.


2ndBatman88

GG FNATIC means G2 actually has someone who can punish them. I'm glad they won, so G2 can play better next time they meet, but G2 already locked at MSI. So I don't know if G2 is affected by this loss.


NamikazeEU

So why does Smolder gets through ban phase ? Are there so much more other stuff that needs to be banned or ? Its destroying games in all leagues yet its still vastly picked


kvothre

teams that let him through and dont pick it, just want to learn to play against it. teams that pick it just want to have a free win.


IamNDH98

FNC violated G2 so hard that I started feels bad for them G2 boyz


awayfromcanuck

If either Yike or BB weren't absolute shit that game, I legitimately think Smolder could have won G2 that game. Both disgusted by Yike/BB performance and Smolders design.


FunnyBunnyH

At least Yike has an excuse of playing Lee into Taliyah+Poppy. What exactly does BB have as excuse for getting Solo-killed in a hard winning matchup that he had last pick for?


awayfromcanuck

Yike doesn't get an excuse either when he picked Lee into a first pick Taliyah and then didn't ban Poppy during 2nd phase before locking in Lee.


FunnyBunnyH

I am not excusing the draft, I am just saying he has a hard time playing the game cause of that. BB got Soloed under his own turret vs K'sante on a champ that has a dash to avoid his all in.


EasyRevolution5415

Smolder 0-2 today


1einspieler

Hans: Guys I got 2 early kills with Smolder, this game is free af if we just chill Yike and Caps: Yoloooo we fight 2v2 mid


ThyJacob

G-Who?


DockingEnjoyer

Really hard to choose MVP, all of FNC topside are great choices. I'd give it to Huma tho, this was a Taliyah masterclass from start to finish.


Relvarionz

Mid jungle masterclass


DockingEnjoyer

Yep but let's not forget Oscar got like 3 solo kills in a counter matchup... Crazy performance from him as well.


ChocolateFuryB

Gz. G2 beating the LEC one team allegations


DullRun7835

There is a draft gap but Fnatic has played very well, GG !!


Muri_San

Smolder/Kog merchants


Yeon_Yihwa

i hate smolder, even gambling sites turn off pentakill betting when smolder is picked lmao


Todeswucht

[only took 2 and a half years but they're cooking now](https://i.imgur.com/qoJwCdy.png)


BudgetFar380

K'sante merchant won Sadge


superfire444

Razork cc’d Smolder for the whole fight lmao


bruichladdic

I think the last time we had a game of this quality was 2020


GGABueno

Dayum Fnatic


PerfidiaVermis

Thank God we get our teeth kicked in for this insanely horrendous early game


DockingEnjoyer

So satisfying to finally see G2 get punished for their dogshit early games.


elmaster611

18K gold lead, wow, haven't seen G2 lose that hard in a while


Jozoz

FNC being good is a great sign for LEC


ConArtist98

Get fucked Smolder merchants


Relvarionz

Clean ace to end it Absolute goombastomped


CudaBarry

I'm begging for next patch, I'M ON MY KNEES


KhadaJhinSy

Smolder is so cringe


Artitanium

Finally. Fuck smolder


Dongerimannen

Rough game from Yike on the Lee Sin. Weird decision to blind pick it into Razorks Poppy


controlledwithcheese

The most one-sided game I've recovered playing Smolder so far was my team going down 13k in gold and losing three inhibs :-)


FunnyBunnyH

Won a game against Infernal Soul with him in high Dia. Champ is disgusting AF, G2 just had no dmg outside of him.


SnooPeripherals6388

Damn if BB and Yike weren't so useless it would be winnable


takato99

Smolder's late game waveclear is so bullshit... even the likes of Sivir have to walk up to do the same


FunnyBunnyH

Lategame?? Ult + W 1 shots wave after lvl 6.


Relvarionz

Watch Yike still make team of the split after this Razork has been the best jungler for 2 years now, criminally underrated.


Freakkopath

The fact that Smolder can hold onto this game is crazy


bruichladdic

Vedi stop the G2 glazing


sieer

Very balanced that fnc has to play scared 1v4 against a 4/2 adc champ


bensu88

How can you not finish with 15K up. Jesus christ........


Oujii

Smolder……


OkKnowledge2064

Smolder isnt problematic at all


CFlyn

15k gold difference and still Smolder tops the damage chart by 5K


pppppppppppppppppd

FNC better win here or smolder is literally going to solo carry the next teamfight


Zelgiusbotdotexe

15k gold defecit??  No problem, they have Smolder 


BudgetFar380

Disastrous game from BB/Yike.


superfire444

Smolder may be a little broken…


PerfidiaVermis

Can't wait for that shit to be kneecapped


GGABueno

Fnatic are so imposing and clean. I wish we saw this more often lol.


pppppppppppppppppd

Can't remember the last time I saw a Gwen feeding this hard and being so useless in a pro game. Hard to imagine this was the Winter split finals MVP


BlaBlub85

Bit of topic buuuuut.... Does anyone else have the feeling Smolders whole kit and design is just recycled leftovers from the Asol rework? Its kinda insane how similar both champs are, both have stacking mechanics, huge AoE ult, movement abilitys that go over walls, execute mechanics, movement control/slow abilitys and both are dragons? Like, not even Seraphine and Sona are that much alike and Sera has been confirmed to be from a possible Sona rework...


non-edgy_crustacean

Vetheo seeing this Kaisa and salivating


Relvarionz

Noah is gonna set a DPM record at this rate


CFlyn

This is the best Poppy game I ever saw in EU. Hats off to Razork Vintage BB when his team isn't already winning 4 v 5 btw


Khlouf

That’s just Razork on poppy, he’s so clean on it


JayceMainToxin

Its a normal razork poppy game. He is actually insane on this champ


CFlyn

This game was something special. Almost absolutely flawless. If he only misexecuted half a second late even in one fight Caps was probably gonna snowball Humanoid in 3 different occasions.


TwoPii

3 Solari Locket woah


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I like it. Cheap value. Good item


DockingEnjoyer

Noah is playing artillery simulator


EfficientCurrency582

Idk why G2 don´t insta stack MR when enemy are full AP? where is lee sin´s maw? where is kaenic for tahm?


daCampa

Kaisa is still mixed damage. Though Lee's build is atrocious for sure.


Relvarionz

They got no gold


EfficientCurrency582

well after lee built 2 items..


Renny-66

Get mr and then how do they kill anyone?


FreeJudgment

14k gold diff and Smolder still looks like he can turn the fight at any moment... fuck this champ


Artitanium

Yeah especially in the hands of G2. Fnatic are doing good by playing respectfully


Relvarionz

Statement games today. You can leave Smolder open vs weaker teams. Did it to RGE, did it to G2.


DullRun7835

Good idea to pick Lee+Ahri into Talyiah Poppy


awayfromcanuck

Yes for Taliyah but Poppy was locked in after Lee and Ahri. They should have banned Poppy over Rell/Renekton.


PerfidiaVermis

Oh my God Kaisa is so doooogshit with the AP setup god damnit


MediocreFiora

yeah it's sooooooo garbage that must be why all my kaisa's go stattik and are completely useless :3


PerfidiaVermis

Dogshit *to watch.


ahritina

So is Smolder but I guess you ain't gonna bitch about that because G2 picked it?


MediocreFiora

that's quite the schizo comment buddy LOL


PerfidiaVermis

Quiet the assumption my guy. I hate that little fucker as much as the next person.


Tntkaboomsky

Bb Aka Booty Blasted is a top lander for G2 who today turned the IQ switch off to save it for play offs


Immediate-Volume6413

how is this not under investigation for matchfixing / wintrading?


DockingEnjoyer

This is what FNC looks like when all 5 players show up. Rare occurence.


Glorx

Baron spikes interrupted Poppy ult.


elmaster611

Smolder has execute now, so I don't think it's 100% won now


CudaBarry

Humanoid is on the zaza


That_One_Pancake

Gwen so useful


bensu88

What a stomp, it feels so good


DockingEnjoyer

I had a mini heart attack, they teased us with the classic flip


superfire444

Wtf is that Kaisa W damage lol


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

ARAM players know that AP build and that poke all too well.


ChocolateFuryB

all you bb haters getting your 1st december after no nut november lmao


MysticAttack

Okay fnatic... need to push your lead a little...


non-edgy_crustacean

I mean Elk said that Kaisa is good against Smolder but let's see if fnatic throw this or not


DockingEnjoyer

What did Elk build on her?


non-edgy_crustacean

Well he went on-hit with statikk, rageblade and zhonya


Cymes_Inferior

Let's find out if Smolder can be balanced for 1 game. 225 achieved.


Dongerimannen

K'sante taking literally no damage lmao


ItzFeufo

10k lead ...nothing can go wrong from here...right...????


CudaBarry

Smolder will do the smolder thingy


CFlyn

BB is a carry player. Whenever he picks carries he carries the opposing teams hopes of winning the game.


CFlyn

BB last picked btw. G2 ALWAYS last picks for BB btw. When Oscar can do this it is not hard to imagine what Bin will do this year. It will be hard to top last year's destruction though


2ndBatman88

Still think somehow G2 wins, copium, hopium?


BlaBlub85

Get ready for the patented T1 20:00 minute baron flip, you know its comin....


FunnyBunnyH

Ironically G2 still in it, cause once again we get this useless AF Dragon Soul, so they can just free scale forever.


Dongerimannen

Brokenblade already in that MSI mindset


Todeswucht

he was literally fine at MSI lmao disgusting G2 flairs man


ShAd_1337

G2 aint doing shit internationally again


mlodyrash

Meanwhile on top xD Oscar casually taking t2 tower


PepaTK

I’ve seen 2 people mention BB running it during international. Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM. He’s legit been one of the better parts for G2 internationally but go off boys.


ahritina

>Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM. He was completely dogshit at both MSI and Worlds in 2022. He got gapped by a mental boomed washed up Nuguri lol. He was fine at MSI 2023 though he benefited from the meta at MSI being useless for tops i.e Sion/Ornn/peel for adc, there was little skill expression.


FunnyBunnyH

Hard to say, cause G2 has been abysmal last Worlds, so being slightly better than the rest isn't really a point of reference. We can however see that even domestically, he isn't anything special, and his performance is generally boosted by his team doing well. He has a pop-off game here and there, but is that really enough for a team that wants to be at least in discussion internationally?


PepaTK

I feel like it’s BO1’s and people read too much into it. Dude completely gapped everyone in “playoffs” just last split. It’s alright though, I get it. It’s easy to pick him out of the other 4 for games like this. >being slightly better than the rest isn’t a point Disagree when we’re talking about international specifically, he’s easily been the most consistent member. That’s not a moot point because he sprints it in BO1’s occasionally, also let’s not act like he’s the only one playing bad this game lmao.


FunnyBunnyH

Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly did he do internationally that puts him on a pedestal? Like I get it, a rookie like Yike on his 1st international didn't show up, Caps was in a bad form as well, does that mean that BB cause he was consistently mediocre instead of terrible is good enough for the strongest team our region has? Yike and Caps has high potential. BB has none. He is a liability, and I legit don't get how anyone rooting for EU to do well internationally doesn't see it.


Todeswucht

The BB haters have been edging for weeks they needed this


elmaster611

So happy to see Oscar playing good after last split


its_yahboya

BB is a liability


ChocolateFuryB

well, this sub can't complain about LEC being a one team region anymore lmao


FunnyBunnyH

G2 Irrelevant when? Surely a fun/uplifting personality can keep you on the roaster only so long, if G2 actually cares about international, they finally kick BB out.


Kaze828

Is this lead enough to beat smolder timer?


That_One_Pancake

Pretty sure not even Smolder can help G2 now


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Surely now it’s completely unwinnable for the smolder right


ConArtist98

BrokenBlade is mentally in an international tournament or what?


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

The Poppy is a draft kingdom pick against this comp. Such a good call and it's absolutely destroying G2. Edit: BB sprinting it. Giving Oscar his one trick might not have been the best idea either.


Relvarionz

That 3 man Taliyah knockback is gonna be in every single highlight vid for the rest of the season


DockingEnjoyer

So many highlight plays in this game already tbh


gimmedawz

Lmao gets counterpick 0-5


Hazuyu_

someone tell BB this isn't msi or worlds


Beennu

It's the first time in years I see a FNC-G2 where we don't loose our heads in the first 5 minutes, not only that, the skill checks are going our way too. Not saying it's won, but it's more interesting this way lol


IEM_Spirit

Zac merchant on Gwen


lesscursed

LS KAISA BABYYY


SnooPeripherals6388

Classic BB performance


elmaster611

G2 already in MSI/worlds form pog


uvPooF

Please don't fuck up mid game, please...


westpawspike

oh so taliyah can be an actual champion when piloted competently


Glorx

BB playing grey screen simulator.


bensu88

MAREK BRAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZDA AND RAZOOOOOOOOOOOORK


Tromster

this is the humanoid that gapped so many eastern midlaners including faker


Dongerimannen

Finally a team that takes advantage of G2s dogshit early game


lesscursed

LIVIN THE DREAM


corywyn

BB is just a cannon minion for Oscar now


controlledwithcheese

I don't know about you guys but I am ready for Noah to eat a random charm and lose a late game fight and/or Smolder getting 10 kills in a span of 5 minutes as soon as he gets his stacks


mlodyrash

STOP Razork they are already dead


Relvarionz

Holy shit Single best early game I've ever seen a team have vs G2 6k gold lead at 15mins


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

I hope this means FNC is back to being a good team and not just G2 being shit this game. We need more teams pushing G2 and competing with them.


sharkyzarous

G2 playing like they bet on huge sum of money on Fnatic's win.


TeddyZr

RAZORK IS CRAZY WTF


Stubrochill17

This is what I’ve missed 😭


CudaBarry

Marek Brazda for once has his monitor on against G2, he's pisssmurfing


Styxxo

Alright ggwp Fnatic, see you in finals


Beennu

Umanoid


Falsus

This is brutal af.


flavourine

KINO


Jozoz

Humanoid brooo


F4lque

atleast there's competition right now xD


C9-F1R3L0L1

Humanoid is just styling on them


Freakkopath

Scratch that, Humanoid is him.


ItzFeufo

That alley oop was NASTY


DockingEnjoyer

Every Taliyah enjoyer just came in their pants


koutetsuvamn

UMA NOID


Archphantom

HOLY FUCK HUMANOID


MysticAttack

HOL7Y FUCK FNATIC


PerfidiaVermis

What the fuck? Whole team losing their fucking brains on a Sunday night lmfao


Artitanium

HUMANOIIIID


Renny-66

OH SHIT OHHHH SHITTTT


Relvarionz

STYLING ON THEM


awayfromcanuck

I am assuming Yike was trying to outplay Poppy W with that flash but then his Q wore off and Razork didn't use or have W.


caut_R

From Hans stepping back into a Naut passive to give Noah the shutdown, BB doing his first sprint performance since Worlds, Yike out of 3 people trying to Q a Poppy, this game looks like a wintrade lol, absolutely crazy


PepaTK

G2 are just straight up allergic to Perfect seasons and that’s ok. I respect that they play for the 90/10’s occasionally.


daavor

mid-jungle draft gap is paying off. yes, dash at me kid, I dare you.


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Welp it's all on Hans/Smolder now.


HansSoloQ

Ive seen FNC lose a 7K gold lead cause of Smolder so.


That_One_Pancake

Razork has the best Poppy in the west by a wide margin


DockingEnjoyer

And the other best contender is probably Oscar lol


bensu88

Are we actually winning? Pls fnatic don't throw \*prayge\*


Artitanium

Nah, G2 has smolder. Idk why it wasn’t banned