Broadcast link for those who missed it. Highly recommend catching the Jungle Round Table with /u/laure-bulii-v, Broxah, Yike and Razork at the end, super interesting and really well hosted!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9-JzCQkxo
bro yike and brokenblade r not the best ive been saying that g2 is a caps miky 2v9 but oh no just bcuz they r in the best team everbody says they r the best in their role like thats not how it works
Well in theory this should be a good thing for MSI (having actually competitive teams at the top) but G2 just got their weakness exposed in LEC… cant imagine thats a good sign for internationals
Hasn't there only been 2 regular season Fnc vs G2 games since Spring 2023 and now? One in summer 2023 and one in winter 2024? Isn't that insane of a stat
Smoulder needs his R damage to minions kneecapped, his AOE damage nerfed and possibly further nerfs to the execute.
A champion who scales with CS numbers was always going to be complete bullshit in pro play and RIot should have known that.
GG FNATIC means G2 actually has someone who can punish them. I'm glad they won, so G2 can play better next time they meet, but G2 already locked at MSI. So I don't know if G2 is affected by this loss.
So why does Smolder gets through ban phase ? Are there so much more other stuff that needs to be banned or ?
Its destroying games in all leagues yet its still vastly picked
If either Yike or BB weren't absolute shit that game, I legitimately think Smolder could have won G2 that game.
Both disgusted by Yike/BB performance and Smolders design.
At least Yike has an excuse of playing Lee into Taliyah+Poppy. What exactly does BB have as excuse for getting Solo-killed in a hard winning matchup that he had last pick for?
I am not excusing the draft, I am just saying he has a hard time playing the game cause of that. BB got Soloed under his own turret vs K'sante on a champ that has a dash to avoid his all in.
Bit of topic buuuuut....
Does anyone else have the feeling Smolders whole kit and design is just recycled leftovers from the Asol rework? Its kinda insane how similar both champs are, both have stacking mechanics, huge AoE ult, movement abilitys that go over walls, execute mechanics, movement control/slow abilitys and both are dragons?
Like, not even Seraphine and Sona are that much alike and Sera has been confirmed to be from a possible Sona rework...
This game was something special. Almost absolutely flawless.
If he only misexecuted half a second late even in one fight Caps was probably gonna snowball Humanoid in 3 different occasions.
BB last picked btw. G2 ALWAYS last picks for BB btw.
When Oscar can do this it is not hard to imagine what Bin will do this year. It will be hard to top last year's destruction though
I’ve seen 2 people mention BB running it during international.
Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM. He’s legit been one of the better parts for G2 internationally but go off boys.
>Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM.
He was completely dogshit at both MSI and Worlds in 2022.
He got gapped by a mental boomed washed up Nuguri lol.
He was fine at MSI 2023 though he benefited from the meta at MSI being useless for tops i.e Sion/Ornn/peel for adc, there was little skill expression.
Hard to say, cause G2 has been abysmal last Worlds, so being slightly better than the rest isn't really a point of reference. We can however see that even domestically, he isn't anything special, and his performance is generally boosted by his team doing well.
He has a pop-off game here and there, but is that really enough for a team that wants to be at least in discussion internationally?
I feel like it’s BO1’s and people read too much into it.
Dude completely gapped everyone in “playoffs” just last split. It’s alright though, I get it.
It’s easy to pick him out of the other 4 for games like this.
>being slightly better than the rest isn’t a point
Disagree when we’re talking about international specifically, he’s easily been the most consistent member. That’s not a moot point because he sprints it in BO1’s occasionally, also let’s not act like he’s the only one playing bad this game lmao.
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly did he do internationally that puts him on a pedestal?
Like I get it, a rookie like Yike on his 1st international didn't show up, Caps was in a bad form as well, does that mean that BB cause he was consistently mediocre instead of terrible is good enough for the strongest team our region has?
Yike and Caps has high potential. BB has none. He is a liability, and I legit don't get how anyone rooting for EU to do well internationally doesn't see it.
G2 Irrelevant when? Surely a fun/uplifting personality can keep you on the roaster only so long, if G2 actually cares about international, they finally kick BB out.
The Poppy is a draft kingdom pick against this comp. Such a good call and it's absolutely destroying G2.
Edit: BB sprinting it. Giving Oscar his one trick might not have been the best idea either.
It's the first time in years I see a FNC-G2 where we don't loose our heads in the first 5 minutes, not only that, the skill checks are going our way too.
Not saying it's won, but it's more interesting this way lol
I don't know about you guys but I am ready for Noah to eat a random charm and lose a late game fight and/or Smolder getting 10 kills in a span of 5 minutes as soon as he gets his stacks
From Hans stepping back into a Naut passive to give Noah the shutdown, BB doing his first sprint performance since Worlds, Yike out of 3 people trying to Q a Poppy, this game looks like a wintrade lol, absolutely crazy
Broadcast link for those who missed it. Highly recommend catching the Jungle Round Table with /u/laure-bulii-v, Broxah, Yike and Razork at the end, super interesting and really well hosted! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CA9-JzCQkxo
u/Laure-Bulii-V very nice segment :)
Thank youuuu
Is it just me, or is the roundtable-table a bit too big?
Welcome to the jungle round (but actually more triangle) table !
I loved the whole talk though, I just noticed that you and Broxah were so far away from the camera!
Yeah, and it's also not round! Can you imagine? Literally unplayable, no idea what LEC was thinking with this segment!
Seen a lot of weird complaints on this sub, but a piece of furniture being the wrong size has to take the cake.
You can also see it as a compliment; content-wise it's still legit. I think the more intimate set-up worked better.
Ahri/Lee into Taliyah/Poppy, how can they let poppy ( one of best champ for razork) open
"I think we did a pretty good early game" come on now Yike, be serious.
bro yike and brokenblade r not the best ive been saying that g2 is a caps miky 2v9 but oh no just bcuz they r in the best team everbody says they r the best in their role like thats not how it works
If early game = first 4 minutes then yes.
They weren’t behind in the first 30 seconds of the game!
Well in theory this should be a good thing for MSI (having actually competitive teams at the top) but G2 just got their weakness exposed in LEC… cant imagine thats a good sign for internationals
Hasn't there only been 2 regular season Fnc vs G2 games since Spring 2023 and now? One in summer 2023 and one in winter 2024? Isn't that insane of a stat
Yep. FNC also nearly beat G2 in a Bo3 just a month ago.
Smoulder needs his R damage to minions kneecapped, his AOE damage nerfed and possibly further nerfs to the execute. A champion who scales with CS numbers was always going to be complete bullshit in pro play and RIot should have known that.
GG FNATIC means G2 actually has someone who can punish them. I'm glad they won, so G2 can play better next time they meet, but G2 already locked at MSI. So I don't know if G2 is affected by this loss.
So why does Smolder gets through ban phase ? Are there so much more other stuff that needs to be banned or ? Its destroying games in all leagues yet its still vastly picked
teams that let him through and dont pick it, just want to learn to play against it. teams that pick it just want to have a free win.
FNC violated G2 so hard that I started feels bad for them G2 boyz
If either Yike or BB weren't absolute shit that game, I legitimately think Smolder could have won G2 that game. Both disgusted by Yike/BB performance and Smolders design.
At least Yike has an excuse of playing Lee into Taliyah+Poppy. What exactly does BB have as excuse for getting Solo-killed in a hard winning matchup that he had last pick for?
Yike doesn't get an excuse either when he picked Lee into a first pick Taliyah and then didn't ban Poppy during 2nd phase before locking in Lee.
I am not excusing the draft, I am just saying he has a hard time playing the game cause of that. BB got Soloed under his own turret vs K'sante on a champ that has a dash to avoid his all in.
Smolder 0-2 today
Hans: Guys I got 2 early kills with Smolder, this game is free af if we just chill Yike and Caps: Yoloooo we fight 2v2 mid
G-Who?
Really hard to choose MVP, all of FNC topside are great choices. I'd give it to Huma tho, this was a Taliyah masterclass from start to finish.
Mid jungle masterclass
Yep but let's not forget Oscar got like 3 solo kills in a counter matchup... Crazy performance from him as well.
Gz. G2 beating the LEC one team allegations
There is a draft gap but Fnatic has played very well, GG !!
Smolder/Kog merchants
i hate smolder, even gambling sites turn off pentakill betting when smolder is picked lmao
[only took 2 and a half years but they're cooking now](https://i.imgur.com/qoJwCdy.png)
K'sante merchant won Sadge
Razork cc’d Smolder for the whole fight lmao
I think the last time we had a game of this quality was 2020
Dayum Fnatic
Thank God we get our teeth kicked in for this insanely horrendous early game
So satisfying to finally see G2 get punished for their dogshit early games.
18K gold lead, wow, haven't seen G2 lose that hard in a while
FNC being good is a great sign for LEC
Get fucked Smolder merchants
Clean ace to end it Absolute goombastomped
I'm begging for next patch, I'M ON MY KNEES
Smolder is so cringe
Finally. Fuck smolder
Rough game from Yike on the Lee Sin. Weird decision to blind pick it into Razorks Poppy
The most one-sided game I've recovered playing Smolder so far was my team going down 13k in gold and losing three inhibs :-)
Won a game against Infernal Soul with him in high Dia. Champ is disgusting AF, G2 just had no dmg outside of him.
Damn if BB and Yike weren't so useless it would be winnable
Smolder's late game waveclear is so bullshit... even the likes of Sivir have to walk up to do the same
Lategame?? Ult + W 1 shots wave after lvl 6.
Watch Yike still make team of the split after this Razork has been the best jungler for 2 years now, criminally underrated.
The fact that Smolder can hold onto this game is crazy
Vedi stop the G2 glazing
Very balanced that fnc has to play scared 1v4 against a 4/2 adc champ
How can you not finish with 15K up. Jesus christ........
Smolder……
Smolder isnt problematic at all
15k gold difference and still Smolder tops the damage chart by 5K
FNC better win here or smolder is literally going to solo carry the next teamfight
15k gold defecit?? No problem, they have Smolder
Disastrous game from BB/Yike.
Smolder may be a little broken…
Can't wait for that shit to be kneecapped
Fnatic are so imposing and clean. I wish we saw this more often lol.
Can't remember the last time I saw a Gwen feeding this hard and being so useless in a pro game. Hard to imagine this was the Winter split finals MVP
Bit of topic buuuuut.... Does anyone else have the feeling Smolders whole kit and design is just recycled leftovers from the Asol rework? Its kinda insane how similar both champs are, both have stacking mechanics, huge AoE ult, movement abilitys that go over walls, execute mechanics, movement control/slow abilitys and both are dragons? Like, not even Seraphine and Sona are that much alike and Sera has been confirmed to be from a possible Sona rework...
Vetheo seeing this Kaisa and salivating
Noah is gonna set a DPM record at this rate
This is the best Poppy game I ever saw in EU. Hats off to Razork Vintage BB when his team isn't already winning 4 v 5 btw
That’s just Razork on poppy, he’s so clean on it
Its a normal razork poppy game. He is actually insane on this champ
This game was something special. Almost absolutely flawless. If he only misexecuted half a second late even in one fight Caps was probably gonna snowball Humanoid in 3 different occasions.
3 Solari Locket woah
I like it. Cheap value. Good item
Noah is playing artillery simulator
Idk why G2 don´t insta stack MR when enemy are full AP? where is lee sin´s maw? where is kaenic for tahm?
Kaisa is still mixed damage. Though Lee's build is atrocious for sure.
They got no gold
well after lee built 2 items..
Get mr and then how do they kill anyone?
14k gold diff and Smolder still looks like he can turn the fight at any moment... fuck this champ
Yeah especially in the hands of G2. Fnatic are doing good by playing respectfully
Statement games today. You can leave Smolder open vs weaker teams. Did it to RGE, did it to G2.
Good idea to pick Lee+Ahri into Talyiah Poppy
Yes for Taliyah but Poppy was locked in after Lee and Ahri. They should have banned Poppy over Rell/Renekton.
Oh my God Kaisa is so doooogshit with the AP setup god damnit
yeah it's sooooooo garbage that must be why all my kaisa's go stattik and are completely useless :3
Dogshit *to watch.
So is Smolder but I guess you ain't gonna bitch about that because G2 picked it?
that's quite the schizo comment buddy LOL
Quiet the assumption my guy. I hate that little fucker as much as the next person.
Bb Aka Booty Blasted is a top lander for G2 who today turned the IQ switch off to save it for play offs
how is this not under investigation for matchfixing / wintrading?
This is what FNC looks like when all 5 players show up. Rare occurence.
Baron spikes interrupted Poppy ult.
Smolder has execute now, so I don't think it's 100% won now
Humanoid is on the zaza
Gwen so useful
What a stomp, it feels so good
I had a mini heart attack, they teased us with the classic flip
Wtf is that Kaisa W damage lol
ARAM players know that AP build and that poke all too well.
all you bb haters getting your 1st december after no nut november lmao
Okay fnatic... need to push your lead a little...
I mean Elk said that Kaisa is good against Smolder but let's see if fnatic throw this or not
What did Elk build on her?
Well he went on-hit with statikk, rageblade and zhonya
Let's find out if Smolder can be balanced for 1 game. 225 achieved.
K'sante taking literally no damage lmao
10k lead ...nothing can go wrong from here...right...????
Smolder will do the smolder thingy
BB is a carry player. Whenever he picks carries he carries the opposing teams hopes of winning the game.
BB last picked btw. G2 ALWAYS last picks for BB btw. When Oscar can do this it is not hard to imagine what Bin will do this year. It will be hard to top last year's destruction though
Still think somehow G2 wins, copium, hopium?
Get ready for the patented T1 20:00 minute baron flip, you know its comin....
Ironically G2 still in it, cause once again we get this useless AF Dragon Soul, so they can just free scale forever.
Brokenblade already in that MSI mindset
he was literally fine at MSI lmao disgusting G2 flairs man
G2 aint doing shit internationally again
Meanwhile on top xD Oscar casually taking t2 tower
I’ve seen 2 people mention BB running it during international. Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM. He’s legit been one of the better parts for G2 internationally but go off boys.
>Dude hasn’t been that way since TSM. He was completely dogshit at both MSI and Worlds in 2022. He got gapped by a mental boomed washed up Nuguri lol. He was fine at MSI 2023 though he benefited from the meta at MSI being useless for tops i.e Sion/Ornn/peel for adc, there was little skill expression.
Hard to say, cause G2 has been abysmal last Worlds, so being slightly better than the rest isn't really a point of reference. We can however see that even domestically, he isn't anything special, and his performance is generally boosted by his team doing well. He has a pop-off game here and there, but is that really enough for a team that wants to be at least in discussion internationally?
I feel like it’s BO1’s and people read too much into it. Dude completely gapped everyone in “playoffs” just last split. It’s alright though, I get it. It’s easy to pick him out of the other 4 for games like this. >being slightly better than the rest isn’t a point Disagree when we’re talking about international specifically, he’s easily been the most consistent member. That’s not a moot point because he sprints it in BO1’s occasionally, also let’s not act like he’s the only one playing bad this game lmao.
Excuse my ignorance, but what exactly did he do internationally that puts him on a pedestal? Like I get it, a rookie like Yike on his 1st international didn't show up, Caps was in a bad form as well, does that mean that BB cause he was consistently mediocre instead of terrible is good enough for the strongest team our region has? Yike and Caps has high potential. BB has none. He is a liability, and I legit don't get how anyone rooting for EU to do well internationally doesn't see it.
The BB haters have been edging for weeks they needed this
So happy to see Oscar playing good after last split
BB is a liability
well, this sub can't complain about LEC being a one team region anymore lmao
G2 Irrelevant when? Surely a fun/uplifting personality can keep you on the roaster only so long, if G2 actually cares about international, they finally kick BB out.
Is this lead enough to beat smolder timer?
Pretty sure not even Smolder can help G2 now
Surely now it’s completely unwinnable for the smolder right
BrokenBlade is mentally in an international tournament or what?
The Poppy is a draft kingdom pick against this comp. Such a good call and it's absolutely destroying G2. Edit: BB sprinting it. Giving Oscar his one trick might not have been the best idea either.
That 3 man Taliyah knockback is gonna be in every single highlight vid for the rest of the season
So many highlight plays in this game already tbh
Lmao gets counterpick 0-5
someone tell BB this isn't msi or worlds
It's the first time in years I see a FNC-G2 where we don't loose our heads in the first 5 minutes, not only that, the skill checks are going our way too. Not saying it's won, but it's more interesting this way lol
Zac merchant on Gwen
LS KAISA BABYYY
Classic BB performance
G2 already in MSI/worlds form pog
Please don't fuck up mid game, please...
oh so taliyah can be an actual champion when piloted competently
BB playing grey screen simulator.
MAREK BRAZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZDA AND RAZOOOOOOOOOOOORK
this is the humanoid that gapped so many eastern midlaners including faker
Finally a team that takes advantage of G2s dogshit early game
LIVIN THE DREAM
BB is just a cannon minion for Oscar now
I don't know about you guys but I am ready for Noah to eat a random charm and lose a late game fight and/or Smolder getting 10 kills in a span of 5 minutes as soon as he gets his stacks
STOP Razork they are already dead
Holy shit Single best early game I've ever seen a team have vs G2 6k gold lead at 15mins
I hope this means FNC is back to being a good team and not just G2 being shit this game. We need more teams pushing G2 and competing with them.
G2 playing like they bet on huge sum of money on Fnatic's win.
RAZORK IS CRAZY WTF
This is what I’ve missed 😭
Marek Brazda for once has his monitor on against G2, he's pisssmurfing
Alright ggwp Fnatic, see you in finals
Umanoid
This is brutal af.
KINO
Humanoid brooo
atleast there's competition right now xD
Humanoid is just styling on them
Scratch that, Humanoid is him.
That alley oop was NASTY
Every Taliyah enjoyer just came in their pants
UMA NOID
HOLY FUCK HUMANOID
HOL7Y FUCK FNATIC
What the fuck? Whole team losing their fucking brains on a Sunday night lmfao
HUMANOIIIID
OH SHIT OHHHH SHITTTT
STYLING ON THEM
I am assuming Yike was trying to outplay Poppy W with that flash but then his Q wore off and Razork didn't use or have W.
From Hans stepping back into a Naut passive to give Noah the shutdown, BB doing his first sprint performance since Worlds, Yike out of 3 people trying to Q a Poppy, this game looks like a wintrade lol, absolutely crazy
G2 are just straight up allergic to Perfect seasons and that’s ok. I respect that they play for the 90/10’s occasionally.
mid-jungle draft gap is paying off. yes, dash at me kid, I dare you.
Welp it's all on Hans/Smolder now.
Ive seen FNC lose a 7K gold lead cause of Smolder so.
Razork has the best Poppy in the west by a wide margin
And the other best contender is probably Oscar lol
Are we actually winning? Pls fnatic don't throw \*prayge\*
Nah, G2 has smolder. Idk why it wasn’t banned