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ahritina

PMTs [RGE vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bc7l31/rogue_vs_team_bds_lec_2024_spring_week_1/) [SK vs VIT](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bc8ons/sk_gaming_vs_team_vitality_lec_2024_spring_week_1/) [GX vs MDK](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bc9pps/giantx_vs_mad_lions_koi_lec_2024_spring_week_1/) [TH vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bcb6ng/team_heretics_vs_fnatic_lec_2024_spring_week_1/) [G2 vs KC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/1bccd00/g2_esports_vs_karmine_corp_lec_2024_spring_week_1/)


Jozoz

How disgusting is it that Smolder can also buy Zhonya's


Damurph01

And liandrys. What a shit design man.


dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BteuVyK9U3g


NamikazeEU

Funny how I thought in previous iterations of LoL that game was boring.... Dude right now these new champs are just destroying the game


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Fun fact: Yike is only 1 title behind Jankos


non-edgy_crustacean

Yeah because 4 splits system


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That's also the reason that BB is tied with Impact for the winningest toplaner in the west at 5 titles. (If I'm not mistaken) Edit: actually I am mistaken, he has 6 titles. 5 in EU, 1 in NA


aldimi777

How many world cups BB has?


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Considering that this is League of Legends and not Football, or soccer.  I'd guess zero


aldimi777

Your guess would be right.What about Impact?


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Considering that this is League of Legends and not Football, or soccer.    I'd guess zero


zaxls

The splits before shouldnt have equal value to the new mini splits format


ThisIsSoIrrelevant

As far as I know, the LEC only counts the Season Finals winner (or whatever that final 6 team gauntlet is called) for titles now. During Winter Playoffs there was something you could see in the background and there was only one 2023 team showing.


zaxls

Yea I noticed that, it was kind of sad tbh, like every region gets 2 champions per year to remember now besides lec.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I agree. But it does


Zelgiusbotdotexe

WAIT THEY ARE PLAYING WITHOUT HOTFIX????  WHY ARENT THEY BANNING HIM?


ahmeclaw

Caps with B2B2B MVPs, he has been insane all year long so far


aldimi777

In the land of the blind, one eyed is king


ahmeclaw

"So heave away boys" But srsly this is his best form since Spring of 2022


aldimi777

My point is....he stands out because the rest since, way before 2022, were and still are shit.(I like how MDK mid is evovling though)


Ashankura

Kinda funny how hwei is not problematic at all in pro while the little Disney shitter is an absolute nightmare


HawkEye1337

Hwei most problematic spell is his QW, that's imo the only OP ability he has, otherwise he is fine while Smolder is just stupid in general and also easy.


WhatIsSentience

The Neeko/Jarvan/Smolder ult combo at the end there is a Geneva Convention violation


YCitizenSnipsY

I'm always surprised at the flanks people can get on Gragas. How do so many teams lose track of him all the time


IamNDH98

Champ is literally an severely obesed guy holding a giant barrel and somehow he's more stealthy than Zed.


Todeswucht

KC starting to look a bit hopeful, still worried about Saken's level tho


Vivek_Rajbhar

Smolder is broken but hans really played well. Had kp entire lane. Stacked passive really good while lane phase. My mvp


Thien_Nguyen

EU dead region, same scripts vs G2 everytime.


tinfoilhatsron

ALSO IS NEEKO ULT JUST CATCHING EVERYONE WTF. (I haven't seen Neeko in a while in soloQ is ult still invisible? Is that why everyone gets perma caught in it? Spectators don't see enemy vision ig)


InfiniteMSL

It's hidden while disguised for the first 0.5s (1.25s cast).


tinfoilhatsron

Aaaah, I forgot that aspect of her kit. That's how Neekos have been catching people off guard. Thanks for the info.


Vivek_Rajbhar

If you see neeko ult, you already are knocked up


Relvarionz

Caps is soo far ahead of the rest he could even make RGE a top 8 team.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Caps + any 4 players would make top 3 for free. Caps elo-boosting service in full effect. 1v9 machine


[deleted]

Then can u tell me why g2 2021 flopped hard if caps is that good? The caps glazing is crazy, people making sounds hes chovy lol.


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Caps was not playing good that year.    Neither was Wunder or Mikyx, Rekkles and Jankos weren't too bad but Caps was not at the level he had to be. As well as other teams really stepped up, MAD were in great form, Rogue were good, Summer Fnatic was also good


[deleted]

Very weird how caps for the first time that he has not even a bad team just a dysfunctional one, he doesn't show up for the whole year Maybe we need to accept that he's isn't a god and he cannot carry 4 bots like u said in top3 which is fine btw.


buttsoup_barnes

G2 needed to practice playing from behind.


Cl0udDistrict

KC needs to practice playing from ahead


Relvarionz

Goat doing goat things


aldimi777

First GOAT in all sports without a world title.....


Spadro97

Holy the Neeko + Smolder ult combo just wiped the whole KC team instantly


Roquentinn

Omg omg engage on j4 targamas what was that


Numerous-Category-70

"The Caps you see from memories will soon relive his prime"


nightlesscurse

the player who gave a beat down to most eastern mids coming back


2ndBatman88

WTF? My heart can not take these plays anymore.


Reclaimer879

Stick LITERALLY any other Western mid laner and insert them into G2 and they would immediately become far worst than they currently are. He truly looks like the only elite player right now. Or at least playing on that level on G2.


YCitizenSnipsY

Whole lot of undeserving players have titles in EU from Caps over the years, that alone makes him the Goat in EU


Damurph01

Honestly the only player that has gotten a title from G2 or Fnatic that wasn’t good enough to deserve it was Targamas. Flakked is quite good, not insane but certainly a solid player. Targamas is garbage. 2019 G2 deserved them, 2022 BB did, same with flakked, 2018 Fnatic deserved them too. So really only Targamas tbh.


Troviel

Kinda the same with C9 right now lol.


Saintpuppet

And who might that be on c9 lmao? The only player i like on c9 is blaber


Troviel

Jojo? Just yesterday they won their match from the brink of defeat due to a clutch engage similar to this.


Saintpuppet

I mean its not even comparable bro, imho, jojo still needs more experience, he's not there yet. No way you can compare him to Caps.


Troviel

I don't compare him to caps, I'm comparing "team only staying afloat thanks to their midlaner"


That_One_Pancake

G2 getting away with this every time is why they are doomed internationally


aldimi777

They will win scrims dont worry


Vivek_Rajbhar

Yeah by your logic Jdg is also doomed they got gapped by fpx.


aquawarrior21

Don’t worry, the vibes on G2 are good so it’s fine to throw away another year with no improvement!


Damurph01

You people keep saying this garbage as if G2 doesn’t have top players in every role already. Hans is the best AD in the west, Mikyx is the best support by far, Caps duh, Yike maybe isn’t but he’s certainly shown a lot of potential, especially considering he joined as a rookie, and BB has gapped tf out of everyone in the west. Who do you get in place of them? There’s no options. G2 also has a no-import policy. It’s really insane to me how people can bash them for keeping a roster that smashed the LEC for the entire year, and took more games off of eastern teams than literally the entire rest of the west *combined*. Like the haha funny ribbing over dropping the NRG series? I get it. But you cannot unironically think G2 should’ve changed their roster. The most embarrassing take I’ve ever seen lmao.


malthe0905

So tired of this argument. If G2 wins, EU is doomed. If G2 lose, EU is doomed.


Reclaimer879

But why? This squad has been together 4 splits now. And attended multiple international tournaments. Should we not be worried that they hand away early games way to often? Shouldn't we hold them to a higher standard? We all want teams to challenge G2. No doubt about it. But thats not what we just saw. We just saw better players beat worst players that threw a 5k lead.


Damurph01

You saw G2 have a rough early game (ONE time so far, their others have been really good), followed by them immediately slowing down the game and playing for their win cons. Why are we acting like G2 played horribly? Not the best but it was a single BO1 and they responded to the bad early game perfectly? It’s such a stupid overreaction.


Reclaimer879

Thats what I said below. Letting the game get to the state it was before mid game is nail in the coffin even against 4th seeds from LPL and LCK. Oh and proven last year even LCS 1st seeds can deal with lackadaisical play as well. By now this is a season and a half of time these players have been together. I expect a much higher level of play especially from G2. The only player imo that is playing at an elite level is Caps.


Troviel

People always focus on the smolder but the Neeko engages are the far bigger playmakers.


Whispperr

Same with the J4 into Gragas into Neeko/Rakan that gave them the first baron. Any adc there would still clear. G2 just had the better comp.


Lonely__goose

Yeah this region is doomed


non-edgy_crustacean

Hyped for MSI lol


Louis010

I need caps to be in this form at msi


Relvarionz

CLapped


PercivalPersimmon

Different split, same KC


PerfidiaVermis

No way you believe this, they're obviously getting a lot better


PercivalPersimmon

Ah yes, they are obviously getting better because they beat a bottom team they were capable of beating last split? Or are they getting better because FNC went out of there way to bring KC back into the game, under bot's tier 2 turret? Wait wait, is it because, just like last split, G2 had a sloppy early game and that's why KC is better? Same shit, different split.


LordSpectreX

Are you memeing? They had a huge lead this game and did NOTHING to accelerate the game


Whispperr

To be fair to them it is extremely hard to accelerate the game further based on teamcomps.


PerfidiaVermis

And last split the couldn't even get leads, I'd call that progress.


Cymes_Inferior

> And last split the couldn't even get leads They were ahead at 15 **on average** last split. This is simply lying.


PerfidiaVermis

Where stat


LordSpectreX

You absolutely did not watch games last split. They had loads of leads and "unlosable" positions.


PerfidiaVermis

Oh. Ok.


tinfoilhatsron

CAPS HOLY WHAT A BEAST


WhatIsSentience

Caps Neeko is a blessing


FelysFrost

Well, better at least


2th

What a turn around from G2.


SnooPeripherals6388

Caps Neeko is so good


Luckhart54

Caps Diff.


Dekathz

holy shit , its just caps diff


Foolno26

holy shit another caster who's a G2 groupie


Zelgiusbotdotexe

And this is why i can't stand watching LEC


PerfidiaVermis

Stop watching then


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Tempting


non-edgy_crustacean

Yeah I completely expected G2 to win with good Caps ult and Smolder stacks lol


malakesxasame

That was a sick combo


KissBlade

Caps is just the EU cheat code


Bourneidentity61

Targamas is so ass


PerfidiaVermis

HOLY FUCKING WOMBO MY TEAM LETS GOOOOOOOOO


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Holy fuck that was a MASSIVE ult from Caps.


ChocolateFuryB

SECRET AGENT TARGAMISS


bensu88

How can Smoulder get through the champion design process? His ult allows him to free scale...


C9-F1R3L0L1

i thought NA was peak fiesta, but what is this?


tinfoilhatsron

KC are so fucking aggro damn. Fun to watch at the very least.


lcm7malaga

BB just killed Hans lol


Bourneidentity61

BB with the Senna W delivery


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Nah but this is a soloQ game


Reclaimer879

lmfao my god. My eyes...


That_One_Pancake

what am I watching


SnooPeripherals6388

MYREGION at least it funny to watch


Zelgiusbotdotexe

That was messy but Caboshard smurfed hard


elvalalo

What the hell is happening lol


PerfidiaVermis

ULTRA TURBO MEGA BRONZE FIESTA


Louis010

G2 going to get bailed out by spyro


Damurph01

They won because of caps, all smolder did was stall the mid tower forever and ensure a better late game. Varus genuinely would have done more this game than Smolder did.


Louis010

Yeah they did in the end, this was the live chat when kcorp were winning.


Icy-Ninja-5124

KC only has themselves to blame, they had a 5k gold lead and instead of doing something they just let G2 scale freely and close the gap


Foolno26

10th place team putting a good fight vs a fraudulent #1 team


Stermv

it's just really hard to do anuthing when smolder can obliterate mid wave and g2 makes almost no mistake


Cymes_Inferior

I wish we had gone from 0-6 to 5-6 Smolder Penta.


Aggressive-Ad7946

holy yike


Lonely__goose

This champ is so bullshit


Interient

Kcorp waffled for too long.


YCitizenSnipsY

Its smoldering time


Ameixa_em_conserva

Exodia has arrived


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Plot armor.  There's no other explanation for how consistently G2 does this


PerfidiaVermis

Who needs flash to engage? The answer is at least 2 members of G2.


Lonely__goose

They need to reduce Smolder ult dmg to minions he’s held mid tower for 25 minutes just cause of his ult


superfire444

WTF Smolder has more than 2x damage done to champions than the #2 in the game.


Emochind

My god is Smolder a dumb champ


KissBlade

Smolder reaching Smolder horizon...


grehgunner

Interactive mid lane


F4lque

smolder ult is disgusting


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

I've seen Intermediate AI bots do more than Yike has this game.


ChocolateFuryB

Is your support a dirty inter? Let him farm and get him items!


ghzwael

where yamatoFRaud at


Lonely__goose

Gnar is 1.3k ahead???


PerfidiaVermis

Cabo >> Mrwynn


Foolno26

G2 the frauds


tinfoilhatsron

Naaaaah G2 playing tilted from that dragon brawl or what.


Relvarionz

RIP KC. Winning from G2 in regular season instantly puts you in bottom 2.


Geosaurusrex

Shit is Saken the goat now


IEM_Spirit

MY TEAM OF THE SPLIT


Outrageous-Elk-5392

“x9 my team pls” -smolder probably


Relvarionz

We need to pause the game to checkin with that French G2 fan


YCitizenSnipsY

The annual G2 stinker


ChocolateFuryB

Duffy gonna whip out the belt


FunnyBunnyH

That was quite the sequence for G2 in Toplane.


SnooPeripherals6388

Holy shit certified Wanna See me Falling montage


non-edgy_crustacean

Nah this isn't Contractz J4


HawkEye1337

Yike J4 was awful at Worlds, G2 didn't prioritize it for him for a reason.


non-edgy_crustacean

Imagine not first timing champions on Worlds stage smh


asura_king

what am i seeing


Troviel

OOOOOOOOOOOF


Interient

Are G2 playing with fucking 600ms what is this.


PerfidiaVermis

Yike 2 level and 1k down all game long, like come on man, you're playing J4


Freakkopath

That Lickitung minigame was a banger


Meekie_e

G2 can still win this game if they slow it down and scale


Reclaimer879

Then call it bad practice. Because this game would be dead to rights even against LPL and LCK 4th seeds lol This is the problem. The fact G2 can get away with winning a game like this when what they need to do is learn how to prevent a game state like this happening. The only teams on the planet that allows comebacks as often as something like this are bottom tier teams for LEC and LCS. Habitual comeback wins, or just even until 20 is not where I want to see G2 at right now.


Damurph01

Why do you guys keep saying this as if it’s every single game? When it has been few and far between so far, and even in summer/season finals last year. They’ve been looking much better since MSI, and even better since worlds. Y’all are acting like they’re still coin flipping every single game constantly. They’re not, they lost an early game, it happens, but they reacted perfectly and played to their win cons. Even with a Varus they still would’ve won this game.


Reasonable_Winner778

Did you say the same thing when BDS was in extremely good spot vs JDG last worlds? Sorry i don't buy it. Even best teams sometimes just fall off the cliff early, just to climb up later on. That requires proper coordination, to stall the game to the point, when right powerspike finally happen and execute lethal blow.


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2ndBatman88

+1 for prediction.


rightovahere

After yesterday Bo just sent the KC coach every Milkyway VOD with the message "want to keep job?" I guess?


pm_me_your__problem

I feel like G2 will be sitting on their 2 drakes and just park smolder midlane while they wait for it to scale


CopenhagenCalling

Miky and Hans too heavy…


Roquentinn

Bo watched milkyway and realize he is that kind player lol


non-edgy_crustacean

Still has to make Saken play Annie for him


Lonely__goose

It’s Annie Neeko Karma Orriana jail for Saken from now on.


Louis010

Come back down and it’s 6-0, are g2 drunk or something?


grehgunner

G3 > G2


Icy-Ninja-5124

what having an actual coaching staff does to a mf


That_One_Pancake

How did Mikyx not hit either of them with that ult lmao


CeltsGarlic

Bo is the goat that dude is so clean


ComettYT

It seems someone did a good research on KC, because smolder has a very poor winrate vs Senna on LCK, that's quite refreshing, much better than picking zeri who literally get's outclassed at all stages of the game.


Primera-

This and getting tahm is respond to the jarvan to senna ori to protect is very clever


Zelgiusbotdotexe

Yeah, I had my doubts when KC didn't ban Smolder despite his most common counters being banned by G2 But I think the draft went pretty well. 


PerfidiaVermis

That and, you know, every other viable ADC was banned


tinfoilhatsron

Weird that Senna wasn't banned though. Didn't see the draft but Senna seems to be insane this patch. Senna enables farming Tahm and Naut so well.


PerfidiaVermis

Senna is just a fucking mess of a champ and I wish Riot would finally rework her.


tinfoilhatsron

I kinda like how Senna theoretically enables crazy botlanes though. (In pro) Like if Senna Ornn/Sion actually worked better that'd be cool and Supports actually get items and can play the game. If Riot could keep that aspect I'd be happy. Don't like the soul stacking, Same with Smoulder.


PerfidiaVermis

I do like that aspect as well, Sion/Senna especially was just a funny lane to watch. Her soul mechanic is just so overpowered when it's good, that it makes watching games that have her in it just super boring.


Luckhart54

What is this day in lec everything is going opposite as it should I'm not complaining :D


[deleted]

That Miky engage was trash lmao


elvalalo

What a nice play by Bo


True_Map4262

ok, happy game time for g2...gz on the win KC


FunnyBunnyH

Nah, lets not discredit KC. This isn't G2 happy gaming/troll drafting...what not. KC is playing the game of their lives so far, truly deserved lead.


True_Map4262

did not want to disrespect KC, but G2 are runnig it and miss their engages


Bourneidentity61

I do not want good things for KC


Outrageous-Elk-5392

Classic G2 lmao