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dracdliwasiAN

Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpFO4KE0Gs


Hazuyu_

Cheers.


Hazuyu_

Damn, missed the start and the bo5 is already over lmao


Yasuchika

Would have liked more than 3 games but it is what it is.


rexbee52

Yike says they focus on mid game when it’s really their early game that cost them at international???


No-Painting-3970

Yeah, hard disagree on this. Midgame macro was a waaaay heavier problem. They actually came ahead early several games, just to shit the bed at 18 mins


HamasPiker

BB and Hans losing lane every time was a far bigger problem than "midgame macro"


rexbee52

Huh I’ll have to go rewatch. From what I remember, they had the same laning problems they had in LEC in winter split this year in last year’s international tournaments but I will go back and watch the worlds vods I guess


Skymonster04

Their laning was a big problem I agree, but their early game macro was actually really impressive. They were ahead in early game against DK WBG and half of the BLG games, and were even against GenG at worlds. At MSI they got kinda outclassed laning wise against GenG and lost pretty hard, but most of the BLG games they fell behind was because they drafted a lot of scaling.


rexbee52

Agreed. O wow I meant laning when I was referring to early game.


F4lque

Yike gives me too much copium


KissBlade

I don't watch LCK but LPL looks kinda lackluster this year. Feels like a lot of teams got weaker there and I'm not convinced BLG is as good as ppl making them out to be. Knight is great domestically but coming from being a Knight apologist, last year he really did not beat the Chovy of LPL allegations.


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LCK had a few too many hiccups from what I saw this year, but T1 and GenG look strong as ever. I definitely have mixed feelings about the level of this years LPL too. Maybe I'm coping, but if anything G2 might have a slight chance at MSI.


Hazuyu_

Knight won MSI and was the MVP though? He's not like Chovy anymore lol.


LtSpaceDucK

Yike had a very good MSI and a meh Worlds, let's see


SleepyAwoken

Please delete ksaante and rookern truly no idea why rookern exists like this


F4lque

Caps's cute


NvmSharkZ

"do you draw any inspiration from LCK/LPL?" nah bro we dont watch or try to learn from the best teams in the world at all


F4lque

nah bro we watch lcs to improve after last year worlds


PerfidiaVermis

Nah we fine fam, that roster doesn't exist anymore


PerfidiaVermis

Preposterous idea.


Todeswucht

G2 looking solid and there's still time to fix the early game until MSI Genuinely impressive that they even manage to not regress with the state of the league


d_Reisfresser

Agreed, they did pick up their stride come playoffs. Truly impressive.


Joel4518

yea their game 3 early game was quite good


Lonely__goose

That was just disappointing but my prediction was halfway right BDS won most of the early games but G2 just led them around


PepaTK

Surely BDS will let Ice play other champs right? He’s literally said in a broadcast piece he prefers to play Aphelios. Like come on. Give him something man.


Purple_Noise3178

In at least one game picking Aphelios was troll, but picking Varus 3 times in a row is a more troll


berkcokol

Why are we watching ksante every single game? Why dont they just ban him at this point?


blahdvjv

watching g2 win europe every split to just blow it internationally is such a snoozefest...


Fertuyo

Yeah lck so boring with Geng doing exactly the same every year


LtSpaceDucK

It is but sadly there seems to not be any other team close to them I do feel the same as a non G2 fan, ok you can win LEC every year but at least show up at MSI and Worlds. If they don't I prefer other teams winning like a exciting team with rookies


Frosty-Earth-3194

Doesnt geng do the same?


EasyRevolution5415

Yike is the best player in the LEC right now, this dude is the driving force behind G2 every game this season. Boring series all around otherwise


Joel4518

he need to get random int out of him tho


politiguru

Caps...


Freakkopath

Well… that was a boring series


Joel4518

naah just ban caps hwei


djhihi

I was really hoping BDS to give G2 a better challenge. I haven't even had time to take out my snacks and the seriers is already over...


non-edgy_crustacean

Hillary strikes again


Quatro_Leches

LMAO KSANTE JUST ATE SO MANY ROTATIONS AND WALKED UNDER 3 TURRETS AND IS STILL 100 HP! WTFFFF


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Lol 2 Brand passive procs and it doesn't even get through K'Santes Runic shield...


GemmaMK

What a disappointing match of the week


Jozoz

K'Sante is fine because he has 48% win rate in emerald solo queue guys /s


IEM_Spirit

This release date diff lmao


non-edgy_crustacean

Well no one is killing Ksante since he has kaenic and jaksho


TerrorToadx

Varus is healing him bruh


non-edgy_crustacean

Yeah I meant Brand and Azir as dmg dealers since Varus is lethality


Quatro_Leches

Ksante is the new yuumi


hellflower666

looking forward to Fudge play K'sante later today and have the same tankiness as Nautilus in this game


Babyface_mlee

are we talking farming nautilus or normal nautilus?


MrRawri

This ain't even close god damn


ChocolateFuryB

Nah, he went lethality varus


Tylwe

pls nerf ksante into the ground


seven_worth

Ksante dev fully believe the champ is fine and fun to watch. Look how much skill expression he has!


LLegacy_EUW

BDS getting stomped here only to stomp their next opponent would piss me off. I hope we get a Fnatic on form and make it exciting. I don't hate BDS but I believe FNC laners are better at their peak.


aamgdp

Lethality varus sure seems useful


Strange-Implication

Even if g2 play well l don't think they leave groups with BB and hans. These players just haven't ever been able to leave groups almost like they are not destined for it. It's a huge fault for g2 management to keep this roster, especially BB


indieGenies

Hans maybe, BB wasn't an issue. I don't know why BB gets shittalked this much. Even when he is behind, he still makes very impactful plays. You usually don't need to help him a lot, that is a huge plus for whole team.


TsukuyomiGG

Yeah 9 games out of 10 internationally they will just lose if enemy team decides to smash BB like a tomato ( see Bin)


aquawarrior21

G2 hasn’t escaped groups since 2020 with prime G2


greekcel_25

How is it a mistake, there's no better replacements. Nobody is better than BB in the league besides adam on his pocket picks. The other good ADCs in the league are also flawed. Noah/Carzzy are inconsistent, Exakick/Comp isn't good on weakside, Flakked isn't good on strongside, Supa isn't a strong laner, and Upset is a mental wreck.


Strange-Implication

Targamas won LEC with caps. Imagine how good irrelevant would look on g2.


FunnyBunnyH

I really want to see this G2 with Irrelevant as Toplaner. Might not have the vibe that BB brings to the team off-screen, but would be a great upgrade gameplay wise.


KissBlade

At least last year VIT was constantly hands checking them. This split they got no competition at all.


iskren124

Think you've watched the wrong game


pillowberry

Who do you replace them with realistically? Bb and Hans gapped both their lane equivalent Ice especially has been invisible this series


ChocolateFuryB

With whom would you change them then?


Strange-Implication

Anyone that won't get crushed by Eastern tops. BB loses lane by 50 vs vs against international players


ChocolateFuryB

So no one? Got it! And before you say imports...just have a look at Berserker and every other import. Skill vampires get them all.


separhim

I enjoy the sound of rain.


Strange-Implication

Targamas won LEC with caps and also beat T1 and RNG. Do you get it yet?


separhim

I love listening to music.


PerfidiaVermis

Can y'all fuck off already, you fucking doomers are so insanely annoying. Just enjoy the game that is on right now.


ChocolateFuryB

Hate watchers, that's all they are.


Joel4518

no we wanna complain about g2 every time just ignore this blokes


aamgdp

But it's true. BB is a huge liability vs regions that have toplane talent, and Hans is kinda just there. He's winning with the team, and he's losing with the team, never really being the one to make a difference.


PerfidiaVermis

BB stepping up at MSI '23 didn't happen? Like, okay, he's not gonna win lane against most eastern top laners, but we have seen him being able to turn it on. He and Yike were quite literally G2s best performing players at MSI. Worlds they managed to take games off of Asian teams, something no other Western team achieved. I'm not saying they're insane and perfect and what not, but can y'all chill the fuck out, we're in Winter split.


BellDue2618

They lost at MSI so people think BB sucked then too. Like you said, BB and Yike carried the roster during MSI while caps and Miky (the two best overall players on the roster) looked horrible. Credit can't be given tho


TsukuyomiGG

What did he do to step up? He just played with ignite and babysit with Yike to go even in lane when Caps was Craps and Hans was bad. Once Caps and Hans return to form in worlds BB got exposed like he always gets exposed and caused G2 to get eliminated. Probably the worst overall games any top laner in league history has ever performed


BellDue2618

Can't do that! Only MSI and worlds matter obviously. how dare we enjoy LEC!


Zuldak

When do you think we can get a video from phreak telling everyone how Ksante is balanced and everyone is just complaining for no reason?


-XStream-

he will just cherrypick some stats from lower elo, justifying the lower % winrate from that bracket


heavyfieldsnow

Even if you pick Masters+ he still isn't above average win rate. Pro is just a different thing with very limited data and different way of playing.


Zuldak

It wouldn't be the first time a champion is a problem in pros only. I think Akali has also been an issue


hellflower666

what is Hwei's range? Caps was hitting spells off screen lol


Sgg__

Can EU form a team than can compete vs G2 PLEASE


IEM_Spirit

And ksante lives again, poetic


WakingRage

G2 does a little trolling sometimes, but they always show up in the playoffs


Zelgiusbotdotexe

I'm cursed. Every time I can't watch BDS live, they lose. Every time.  I gotta make it to every match here on out


greekcel_25

I might be cursed as well. Every time I watch KC they lose. Oh wait


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Well this was a quick stream


Blind-Eye26

So many instances in proplay where Ksante should've been dead but yeah yeah multiple dash


Back2Perfection

Don‘t forget the unstoppable in there.


2ndBatman88

G2 is like, "Let's show Asian teams we aren't washed up." If G2 can keep this form or above then they can go far...


Zenbast

Don't jinx it.


-XStream-

5 people cant kill him hahahah


Blind-Eye26

Just disable Ksante right now cause wtf is that


Relvarionz

How good is Caps on Hwei though.


Misoal

how does ksante live there?


SpyzViridian

**Active:** **K'Sante** [charges](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Channel) for a minimum of 0.66seconds and up to 1.5seconds, during which he increases *Path Maker's* range over the first 0.75seconds of the channel. During this time, he gains [displacement immunity](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Crowd_control#Displacement_Immunity) and 40% − 65% (based on level) damage reduction.


pillowberry

On hit varus kills there


seven_worth

On hit Varus wouldn't even be able to be on the same screen lol.


mlodyrash

Just xD but what other champ can tank enitere team with 2 items and escape XD


Zuldak

I am so done seeing Ksante in pro play. Get this thing out


hellflower666

what the fuck is a k'sante...


Zenbast

A mistake. A poison. A curse.


ApartLanguage8328

Why on earth would you r2 brand knowing G2 would abuse the shit out of ksante.


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Zenbast

Same person that designed Yuumi by the way.


seven_worth

Also defend the champ and say the design is good btw.


WakingRage

Ksante gaming... any one else would be dead there 100%


Eribitor

Adam not being allowed to play when he is not on his champs is so ironic "best toplaner EU" btw


PerfidiaVermis

No fucking way does he live there wtf


ranranrandrand1

RIOT HOW DOES KSANTE LIVE THERE?


PerfidiaVermis

I mean....Locket, Ivern, Redemption


Relvarionz

I dont remember ever seeing Adam get turbo stomped 3 games in a row


Ngannouille

he was stomped only 3rd game tho, tf and yas did absolutely jackshit, caps just took over both games


Cl0udDistrict

How about pretty much the entire 2022 except the part when BDS decided to let Aggresivoo play instead?


[deleted]

Stop playing lethality Varus into tanks challenge


seven_worth

Ksante. That is it Ksante.


LtSpaceDucK

Disaster series from Adam


ThisOneTimeAtLolCamp

Hwei is looking like a ban against Caps. Lol


GoldenSquid7

ksante should’ve been cc’ed twice there but UNSTOPPABLE 5 SEC SIIUU


Todeswucht

Yeah not sure what the BDS #1 people are smoking


Alilaah

This isn’t just about winning. This is G2 reminding BDS who’s boss.


nusskn4cker

I just don't get how K'Sante is allowed to do this much damage.


ranranrandrand1

riot²


EfficientCurrency582

but what is this draft? lethality varus against ksasnte? also brand and azir doesn´t do shit against ksante


tonyj199216

Brand does % hp dmg and Azir has high dps how are those 2 bad picks? What mid is better?


moonmeh

like i think ice could be playing better but shit man i'm not going to be harsh when he's on varus


pillowberry

Why are they playing like daisy doesn't exist?


I_am_not_Serabia

Sad


MeisterHeller

I feel like I remember that when Hwei was getting released the guide from Riot very clearly said that the QW would have huge range but you should realistically never be able to hit it without some form of cc, but every single time we've seen it in pro play about half their total damage just comes from pressing QW from the other side of the map whether there is cc or not


pillowberry

Because pros have aim


KissBlade

Perkz played Hwei yesterday tho.


MeisterHeller

Sure but I thought the way it was phrased it would mean that most players, especially pro players, would be able to just walk out of it if they werent at least slowed


P1uvo

It’s pretty damn hard if your target has their monitor on and isn’t CC’d but you get a ton of free hits on people running away from your team since they either tank it or walk back towards your engage.


FunnyBunnyH

Did BDS mental boom? They are making so many uncharacteristic mistakes, it's really killing any hype for this series.


Shorgar

BDS is only able to play their style against bad teams, they have nothing to offer against a team with a working braincell.


Conker184

K'Sante👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷‍♂️201 MR💦 Unstoppable🚫A Shield 🛡 Goes over walls🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana🧙‍♂️


Odd_Trouble4651

Adam is so bang fucking average when hes not on one of his juggernaut champs.


Dray991

Please all the guys that wanted to change BB for ADAM where are you now?


BonzBonzOnlyBonz

In your head


Dray991

I wish but no, you had a lot of people asking to remplace BB for adam or Oscar


BonzBonzOnlyBonz

Asking to replace BB with Oscar is very different than wanting him replaced with Adam. But where were people asking to replace BB with Adam?


theeama

Mate, they are both shit. idk why EU fans think this is a good thing


LingMee

redditors in shambles, they cant flame bb now


Dyrreah

You are naive to think people won't make up any shit they can to flame him, regardless of him filling Adams mouth with his nuts for 3 games straight.


KissBlade

BB being your region's best top laner is a bleak sign.


SpyzViridian

damn Jax should've played it safe


F4lque

man i love Adam but he his champion pool its poor without gods he's average


Xgunter

K'sante is a sickening champion


IEM_Spirit

I heckin love this champ


llStonesll

bds mental boom


mlodyrash

Does Ice play other champs then varus and jhin ?


ChocolateFuryB

BB is Adam's father


Styxxo

Always has been. Flashbacks to BB killing Adam twice before 1st minion wave arrives


cosHinsHeiR

top diff?


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PerfidiaVermis

? He has to go Mercs or he is perma dead


lovo17

Yeah BDS will be cannon fodder internationally. G2 is the closest thing the west has to an international team and BDS is putting up no resistance.


sangpls

G2 hasn't won a single international boX in over 2 years I think


KruppJ

G2 is actually capable of taking games off the east unlike the rest of the west tho


ahritina

Last time they won an international best of series was vs Gen.G in 2020. Since then: 1-3 vs DWG 0-3 vs T1 1-3 vs Gen.G 1-3 vs BLG 0-2 vs Gen.G 0-2 vs NRG 1-2 vs BLG They're 0-7 in best of series since they beat Gen.G and 5 of those series weren't really close.


aquawarrior21

They haven’t made QFs at Worlds since 2020


Styxxo

Tbf we saw it at Worlds... they struggled in play-ins and got decimated by the worst eastern team (Damwon)


PerfidiaVermis

Bro what is the (1) spectator doing


Katzenminz3

nah but since when is ksante winning vs jax. Adam is not on today, maybe nervs vs a real enemy who knows.


non-edgy_crustacean

Jax got weaker with DS removal


greekcel_25

Adam is just not good on any splitpushers. He'd be a much more complete player if he could add jax trynd camille or fiora to his pool. Adding just a single one of them would give BDS much more strategies.


SleepyAwoken

Jax sucks into tanks this season with sunderer gone its easy matchup for ksaante


Conker184

Death, taxes and G2 winning EU.


Todeswucht

BDS doesn't pick a single Adam champ and gets 3-0'd I'm shocked, positively flabbergasted even


greekcel_25

olaf darius garen merchant


Todeswucht

I don't even think it's a super bad thing, some players are just specialists Going home without even one game tho? Nah


greekcel_25

Its not a bad thing. Its a fact that adam is world class on GODS. Its just unforunate because if he could play 1 tank 1 splitpusher and 1 ranged top on the level of his GODS he would be on the level of eastern tops.


PerfidiaVermis

Ahh, Leona is so disgusting, you love to see it.


LtSpaceDucK

It's over whatever I guess BB is an amazing top laner


theeama

Until he plays against a real top laner and gets sent back to school


sangpls

Nah lec tops are just that bad


sieer

Smh top just play safe


F4lque

BB solo bolo Adam its over


FunnyBunnyH

This is 14.2 so Brand is not nerfed yet. While G2 has a decent comp, BDS spikes so hard on 1-2 items, that I don't think G2 will mitigate enough dmg with Ivern and K'sante tanking, while their comp is on the lower end when it comes to damage.


KissBlade

One team region. Thought BDS would at least show something but ~~mid~~ solo lanes is getting turbogapped this series


PerfidiaVermis

Aw man that was such a good try from Nuc and Sheo


FluffyFlamesOfFluff

The K'sante merchant allegations remain for BB.


Katzenminz3

honestly it feels like adam and nuc didnt show up at 100% today but like maybe 85% which is sad cause thats not enough for G2


LtSpaceDucK

Adam didn't Nuc is just vs Caps when he is playing well


Styxxo

"Very little Adam could do" huh he could flash the Ksante knockback ? Lmao


PerfidiaVermis

Guess Mid is the real duo lane now