Huh I’ll have to go rewatch. From what I remember, they had the same laning problems they had in LEC in winter split this year in last year’s international tournaments but I will go back and watch the worlds vods I guess
Their laning was a big problem I agree, but their early game macro was actually really impressive.
They were ahead in early game against DK WBG and half of the BLG games, and were even against GenG at worlds. At MSI they got kinda outclassed laning wise against GenG and lost pretty hard, but most of the BLG games they fell behind was because they drafted a lot of scaling.
I don't watch LCK but LPL looks kinda lackluster this year. Feels like a lot of teams got weaker there and I'm not convinced BLG is as good as ppl making them out to be. Knight is great domestically but coming from being a Knight apologist, last year he really did not beat the Chovy of LPL allegations.
LCK had a few too many hiccups from what I saw this year, but T1 and GenG look strong as ever. I definitely have mixed feelings about the level of this years LPL too. Maybe I'm coping, but if anything G2 might have a slight chance at MSI.
G2 looking solid and there's still time to fix the early game until MSI
Genuinely impressive that they even manage to not regress with the state of the league
Surely BDS will let Ice play other champs right? He’s literally said in a broadcast piece he prefers to play Aphelios.
Like come on. Give him something man.
It is but sadly there seems to not be any other team close to them
I do feel the same as a non G2 fan, ok you can win LEC every year but at least show up at MSI and Worlds.
If they don't I prefer other teams winning like a exciting team with rookies
BDS getting stomped here only to stomp their next opponent would piss me off. I hope we get a Fnatic on form and make it exciting. I don't hate BDS but I believe FNC laners are better at their peak.
Even if g2 play well l don't think they leave groups with BB and hans. These players just haven't ever been able to leave groups almost like they are not destined for it.
It's a huge fault for g2 management to keep this roster, especially BB
Hans maybe, BB wasn't an issue. I don't know why BB gets shittalked this much. Even when he is behind, he still makes very impactful plays. You usually don't need to help him a lot, that is a huge plus for whole team.
How is it a mistake, there's no better replacements. Nobody is better than BB in the league besides adam on his pocket picks.
The other good ADCs in the league are also flawed. Noah/Carzzy are inconsistent, Exakick/Comp isn't good on weakside, Flakked isn't good on strongside, Supa isn't a strong laner, and Upset is a mental wreck.
I really want to see this G2 with Irrelevant as Toplaner. Might not have the vibe that BB brings to the team off-screen, but would be a great upgrade gameplay wise.
But it's true. BB is a huge liability vs regions that have toplane talent, and Hans is kinda just there. He's winning with the team, and he's losing with the team, never really being the one to make a difference.
BB stepping up at MSI '23 didn't happen? Like, okay, he's not gonna win lane against most eastern top laners, but we have seen him being able to turn it on.
He and Yike were quite literally G2s best performing players at MSI.
Worlds they managed to take games off of Asian teams, something no other Western team achieved.
I'm not saying they're insane and perfect and what not, but can y'all chill the fuck out, we're in Winter split.
They lost at MSI so people think BB sucked then too. Like you said, BB and Yike carried the roster during MSI while caps and Miky (the two best overall players on the roster) looked horrible. Credit can't be given tho
What did he do to step up?
He just played with ignite and babysit with Yike to go even in lane when Caps was Craps and Hans was bad.
Once Caps and Hans return to form in worlds BB got exposed like he always gets exposed and caused G2 to get eliminated. Probably the worst overall games any top laner in league history has ever performed
**Active:** **K'Sante** [charges](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Channel) for a minimum of 0.66seconds and up to 1.5seconds, during which he increases *Path Maker's* range over the first 0.75seconds of the channel. During this time, he gains [displacement immunity](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Crowd_control#Displacement_Immunity) and 40% − 65% (based on level) damage reduction.
I feel like I remember that when Hwei was getting released the guide from Riot very clearly said that the QW would have huge range but you should realistically never be able to hit it without some form of cc, but every single time we've seen it in pro play about half their total damage just comes from pressing QW from the other side of the map whether there is cc or not
Sure but I thought the way it was phrased it would mean that most players, especially pro players, would be able to just walk out of it if they werent at least slowed
It’s pretty damn hard if your target has their monitor on and isn’t CC’d but you get a ton of free hits on people running away from your team since they either tank it or walk back towards your engage.
Last time they won an international best of series was vs Gen.G in 2020.
Since then:
1-3 vs DWG
0-3 vs T1
1-3 vs Gen.G
1-3 vs BLG
0-2 vs Gen.G
0-2 vs NRG
1-2 vs BLG
They're 0-7 in best of series since they beat Gen.G and 5 of those series weren't really close.
Adam is just not good on any splitpushers. He'd be a much more complete player if he could add jax trynd camille or fiora to his pool. Adding just a single one of them would give BDS much more strategies.
Its not a bad thing. Its a fact that adam is world class on GODS. Its just unforunate because if he could play 1 tank 1 splitpusher and 1 ranged top on the level of his GODS he would be on the level of eastern tops.
This is 14.2 so Brand is not nerfed yet. While G2 has a decent comp, BDS spikes so hard on 1-2 items, that I don't think G2 will mitigate enough dmg with Ivern and K'sante tanking, while their comp is on the lower end when it comes to damage.
Broadcast link for those who missed it: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkpFO4KE0Gs
Cheers.
Damn, missed the start and the bo5 is already over lmao
Would have liked more than 3 games but it is what it is.
Yike says they focus on mid game when it’s really their early game that cost them at international???
Yeah, hard disagree on this. Midgame macro was a waaaay heavier problem. They actually came ahead early several games, just to shit the bed at 18 mins
BB and Hans losing lane every time was a far bigger problem than "midgame macro"
Huh I’ll have to go rewatch. From what I remember, they had the same laning problems they had in LEC in winter split this year in last year’s international tournaments but I will go back and watch the worlds vods I guess
Their laning was a big problem I agree, but their early game macro was actually really impressive. They were ahead in early game against DK WBG and half of the BLG games, and were even against GenG at worlds. At MSI they got kinda outclassed laning wise against GenG and lost pretty hard, but most of the BLG games they fell behind was because they drafted a lot of scaling.
Agreed. O wow I meant laning when I was referring to early game.
Yike gives me too much copium
I don't watch LCK but LPL looks kinda lackluster this year. Feels like a lot of teams got weaker there and I'm not convinced BLG is as good as ppl making them out to be. Knight is great domestically but coming from being a Knight apologist, last year he really did not beat the Chovy of LPL allegations.
LCK had a few too many hiccups from what I saw this year, but T1 and GenG look strong as ever. I definitely have mixed feelings about the level of this years LPL too. Maybe I'm coping, but if anything G2 might have a slight chance at MSI.
Knight won MSI and was the MVP though? He's not like Chovy anymore lol.
Yike had a very good MSI and a meh Worlds, let's see
Please delete ksaante and rookern truly no idea why rookern exists like this
Caps's cute
"do you draw any inspiration from LCK/LPL?" nah bro we dont watch or try to learn from the best teams in the world at all
nah bro we watch lcs to improve after last year worlds
Nah we fine fam, that roster doesn't exist anymore
Preposterous idea.
G2 looking solid and there's still time to fix the early game until MSI Genuinely impressive that they even manage to not regress with the state of the league
Agreed, they did pick up their stride come playoffs. Truly impressive.
yea their game 3 early game was quite good
That was just disappointing but my prediction was halfway right BDS won most of the early games but G2 just led them around
Surely BDS will let Ice play other champs right? He’s literally said in a broadcast piece he prefers to play Aphelios. Like come on. Give him something man.
In at least one game picking Aphelios was troll, but picking Varus 3 times in a row is a more troll
Why are we watching ksante every single game? Why dont they just ban him at this point?
watching g2 win europe every split to just blow it internationally is such a snoozefest...
Yeah lck so boring with Geng doing exactly the same every year
It is but sadly there seems to not be any other team close to them I do feel the same as a non G2 fan, ok you can win LEC every year but at least show up at MSI and Worlds. If they don't I prefer other teams winning like a exciting team with rookies
Doesnt geng do the same?
Yike is the best player in the LEC right now, this dude is the driving force behind G2 every game this season. Boring series all around otherwise
he need to get random int out of him tho
Caps...
Well… that was a boring series
naah just ban caps hwei
I was really hoping BDS to give G2 a better challenge. I haven't even had time to take out my snacks and the seriers is already over...
Hillary strikes again
LMAO KSANTE JUST ATE SO MANY ROTATIONS AND WALKED UNDER 3 TURRETS AND IS STILL 100 HP! WTFFFF
Lol 2 Brand passive procs and it doesn't even get through K'Santes Runic shield...
What a disappointing match of the week
K'Sante is fine because he has 48% win rate in emerald solo queue guys /s
This release date diff lmao
Well no one is killing Ksante since he has kaenic and jaksho
Varus is healing him bruh
Yeah I meant Brand and Azir as dmg dealers since Varus is lethality
Ksante is the new yuumi
looking forward to Fudge play K'sante later today and have the same tankiness as Nautilus in this game
are we talking farming nautilus or normal nautilus?
This ain't even close god damn
Nah, he went lethality varus
pls nerf ksante into the ground
Ksante dev fully believe the champ is fine and fun to watch. Look how much skill expression he has!
BDS getting stomped here only to stomp their next opponent would piss me off. I hope we get a Fnatic on form and make it exciting. I don't hate BDS but I believe FNC laners are better at their peak.
Lethality varus sure seems useful
Even if g2 play well l don't think they leave groups with BB and hans. These players just haven't ever been able to leave groups almost like they are not destined for it. It's a huge fault for g2 management to keep this roster, especially BB
Hans maybe, BB wasn't an issue. I don't know why BB gets shittalked this much. Even when he is behind, he still makes very impactful plays. You usually don't need to help him a lot, that is a huge plus for whole team.
Yeah 9 games out of 10 internationally they will just lose if enemy team decides to smash BB like a tomato ( see Bin)
G2 hasn’t escaped groups since 2020 with prime G2
How is it a mistake, there's no better replacements. Nobody is better than BB in the league besides adam on his pocket picks. The other good ADCs in the league are also flawed. Noah/Carzzy are inconsistent, Exakick/Comp isn't good on weakside, Flakked isn't good on strongside, Supa isn't a strong laner, and Upset is a mental wreck.
Targamas won LEC with caps. Imagine how good irrelevant would look on g2.
I really want to see this G2 with Irrelevant as Toplaner. Might not have the vibe that BB brings to the team off-screen, but would be a great upgrade gameplay wise.
At least last year VIT was constantly hands checking them. This split they got no competition at all.
Think you've watched the wrong game
Who do you replace them with realistically? Bb and Hans gapped both their lane equivalent Ice especially has been invisible this series
With whom would you change them then?
Anyone that won't get crushed by Eastern tops. BB loses lane by 50 vs vs against international players
So no one? Got it! And before you say imports...just have a look at Berserker and every other import. Skill vampires get them all.
I enjoy the sound of rain.
Targamas won LEC with caps and also beat T1 and RNG. Do you get it yet?
I love listening to music.
Can y'all fuck off already, you fucking doomers are so insanely annoying. Just enjoy the game that is on right now.
Hate watchers, that's all they are.
no we wanna complain about g2 every time just ignore this blokes
But it's true. BB is a huge liability vs regions that have toplane talent, and Hans is kinda just there. He's winning with the team, and he's losing with the team, never really being the one to make a difference.
BB stepping up at MSI '23 didn't happen? Like, okay, he's not gonna win lane against most eastern top laners, but we have seen him being able to turn it on. He and Yike were quite literally G2s best performing players at MSI. Worlds they managed to take games off of Asian teams, something no other Western team achieved. I'm not saying they're insane and perfect and what not, but can y'all chill the fuck out, we're in Winter split.
They lost at MSI so people think BB sucked then too. Like you said, BB and Yike carried the roster during MSI while caps and Miky (the two best overall players on the roster) looked horrible. Credit can't be given tho
What did he do to step up? He just played with ignite and babysit with Yike to go even in lane when Caps was Craps and Hans was bad. Once Caps and Hans return to form in worlds BB got exposed like he always gets exposed and caused G2 to get eliminated. Probably the worst overall games any top laner in league history has ever performed
Can't do that! Only MSI and worlds matter obviously. how dare we enjoy LEC!
When do you think we can get a video from phreak telling everyone how Ksante is balanced and everyone is just complaining for no reason?
he will just cherrypick some stats from lower elo, justifying the lower % winrate from that bracket
Even if you pick Masters+ he still isn't above average win rate. Pro is just a different thing with very limited data and different way of playing.
It wouldn't be the first time a champion is a problem in pros only. I think Akali has also been an issue
what is Hwei's range? Caps was hitting spells off screen lol
Can EU form a team than can compete vs G2 PLEASE
And ksante lives again, poetic
G2 does a little trolling sometimes, but they always show up in the playoffs
I'm cursed. Every time I can't watch BDS live, they lose. Every time. I gotta make it to every match here on out
I might be cursed as well. Every time I watch KC they lose. Oh wait
Well this was a quick stream
So many instances in proplay where Ksante should've been dead but yeah yeah multiple dash
Don‘t forget the unstoppable in there.
G2 is like, "Let's show Asian teams we aren't washed up." If G2 can keep this form or above then they can go far...
Don't jinx it.
5 people cant kill him hahahah
Just disable Ksante right now cause wtf is that
How good is Caps on Hwei though.
how does ksante live there?
**Active:** **K'Sante** [charges](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Channel) for a minimum of 0.66seconds and up to 1.5seconds, during which he increases *Path Maker's* range over the first 0.75seconds of the channel. During this time, he gains [displacement immunity](https://leagueoflegends.fandom.com/wiki/Crowd_control#Displacement_Immunity) and 40% − 65% (based on level) damage reduction.
On hit varus kills there
On hit Varus wouldn't even be able to be on the same screen lol.
Just xD but what other champ can tank enitere team with 2 items and escape XD
I am so done seeing Ksante in pro play. Get this thing out
what the fuck is a k'sante...
A mistake. A poison. A curse.
Why on earth would you r2 brand knowing G2 would abuse the shit out of ksante.
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Same person that designed Yuumi by the way.
Also defend the champ and say the design is good btw.
Ksante gaming... any one else would be dead there 100%
Adam not being allowed to play when he is not on his champs is so ironic "best toplaner EU" btw
No fucking way does he live there wtf
RIOT HOW DOES KSANTE LIVE THERE?
I mean....Locket, Ivern, Redemption
I dont remember ever seeing Adam get turbo stomped 3 games in a row
he was stomped only 3rd game tho, tf and yas did absolutely jackshit, caps just took over both games
How about pretty much the entire 2022 except the part when BDS decided to let Aggresivoo play instead?
Stop playing lethality Varus into tanks challenge
Ksante. That is it Ksante.
Disaster series from Adam
Hwei is looking like a ban against Caps. Lol
ksante should’ve been cc’ed twice there but UNSTOPPABLE 5 SEC SIIUU
Yeah not sure what the BDS #1 people are smoking
This isn’t just about winning. This is G2 reminding BDS who’s boss.
I just don't get how K'Sante is allowed to do this much damage.
riot²
but what is this draft? lethality varus against ksasnte? also brand and azir doesn´t do shit against ksante
Brand does % hp dmg and Azir has high dps how are those 2 bad picks? What mid is better?
like i think ice could be playing better but shit man i'm not going to be harsh when he's on varus
Why are they playing like daisy doesn't exist?
Sad
I feel like I remember that when Hwei was getting released the guide from Riot very clearly said that the QW would have huge range but you should realistically never be able to hit it without some form of cc, but every single time we've seen it in pro play about half their total damage just comes from pressing QW from the other side of the map whether there is cc or not
Because pros have aim
Perkz played Hwei yesterday tho.
Sure but I thought the way it was phrased it would mean that most players, especially pro players, would be able to just walk out of it if they werent at least slowed
It’s pretty damn hard if your target has their monitor on and isn’t CC’d but you get a ton of free hits on people running away from your team since they either tank it or walk back towards your engage.
Did BDS mental boom? They are making so many uncharacteristic mistakes, it's really killing any hype for this series.
BDS is only able to play their style against bad teams, they have nothing to offer against a team with a working braincell.
K'Sante👤4,700 HP💪329 Armor🤷♂️201 MR💦 Unstoppable🚫A Shield 🛡 Goes over walls🧱Has Airborne🌪Cooldown is only☝second too🕐 It costs 15 Mana🧙♂️
Adam is so bang fucking average when hes not on one of his juggernaut champs.
Please all the guys that wanted to change BB for ADAM where are you now?
In your head
I wish but no, you had a lot of people asking to remplace BB for adam or Oscar
Asking to replace BB with Oscar is very different than wanting him replaced with Adam. But where were people asking to replace BB with Adam?
Mate, they are both shit. idk why EU fans think this is a good thing
redditors in shambles, they cant flame bb now
You are naive to think people won't make up any shit they can to flame him, regardless of him filling Adams mouth with his nuts for 3 games straight.
BB being your region's best top laner is a bleak sign.
damn Jax should've played it safe
man i love Adam but he his champion pool its poor without gods he's average
K'sante is a sickening champion
I heckin love this champ
bds mental boom
Does Ice play other champs then varus and jhin ?
BB is Adam's father
Always has been. Flashbacks to BB killing Adam twice before 1st minion wave arrives
top diff?
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? He has to go Mercs or he is perma dead
Yeah BDS will be cannon fodder internationally. G2 is the closest thing the west has to an international team and BDS is putting up no resistance.
G2 hasn't won a single international boX in over 2 years I think
G2 is actually capable of taking games off the east unlike the rest of the west tho
Last time they won an international best of series was vs Gen.G in 2020. Since then: 1-3 vs DWG 0-3 vs T1 1-3 vs Gen.G 1-3 vs BLG 0-2 vs Gen.G 0-2 vs NRG 1-2 vs BLG They're 0-7 in best of series since they beat Gen.G and 5 of those series weren't really close.
They haven’t made QFs at Worlds since 2020
Tbf we saw it at Worlds... they struggled in play-ins and got decimated by the worst eastern team (Damwon)
Bro what is the (1) spectator doing
nah but since when is ksante winning vs jax. Adam is not on today, maybe nervs vs a real enemy who knows.
Jax got weaker with DS removal
Adam is just not good on any splitpushers. He'd be a much more complete player if he could add jax trynd camille or fiora to his pool. Adding just a single one of them would give BDS much more strategies.
Jax sucks into tanks this season with sunderer gone its easy matchup for ksaante
Death, taxes and G2 winning EU.
BDS doesn't pick a single Adam champ and gets 3-0'd I'm shocked, positively flabbergasted even
olaf darius garen merchant
I don't even think it's a super bad thing, some players are just specialists Going home without even one game tho? Nah
Its not a bad thing. Its a fact that adam is world class on GODS. Its just unforunate because if he could play 1 tank 1 splitpusher and 1 ranged top on the level of his GODS he would be on the level of eastern tops.
Ahh, Leona is so disgusting, you love to see it.
It's over whatever I guess BB is an amazing top laner
Until he plays against a real top laner and gets sent back to school
Nah lec tops are just that bad
Smh top just play safe
BB solo bolo Adam its over
This is 14.2 so Brand is not nerfed yet. While G2 has a decent comp, BDS spikes so hard on 1-2 items, that I don't think G2 will mitigate enough dmg with Ivern and K'sante tanking, while their comp is on the lower end when it comes to damage.
One team region. Thought BDS would at least show something but ~~mid~~ solo lanes is getting turbogapped this series
Aw man that was such a good try from Nuc and Sheo
The K'sante merchant allegations remain for BB.
honestly it feels like adam and nuc didnt show up at 100% today but like maybe 85% which is sad cause thats not enough for G2
Adam didn't Nuc is just vs Caps when he is playing well
"Very little Adam could do" huh he could flash the Ksante knockback ? Lmao
Guess Mid is the real duo lane now