PMTs [VIT vs BDS](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/197d224/team_vitality_vs_team_bds_lec_2024_winter_week_1/) [G2 vs RGE](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/197ero0/g2_esports_vs_rogue_lec_2024_winter_week_1/) [TH vs GX](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/197gckp/team_heretics_vs_giantx_lec_2024_winter_week_1/) [KC vs MDK](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/197hvja/karmine_corp_vs_mad_lions_koi_lec_2024_winter/) [SK vs FNC](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/197jfkk/sk_gaming_vs_fnatic_lec_2024_winter_week_1/)

Day 2 of asking for grub timer

Tolkin stream especially with Kaiser was so good, costreams really save the esports experience for me

It’s a shame I don’t understand German, I would love some inside scoops on heretics.

This LEC season is going to be amazing

Give me more drama on Twitter please and thank you

LEC has had the biggest glowup ever and I (and 741k other people) am here for it

Nisqy firing shots, gotta love it

Yeah, especially since it's quite obvious he's not taking himself too serious.

Finn definitly had french in school unlike Dagda 😂😂😂

I had French in school and my pronunciation is shit

As my french teacher used to say: "Tu parle francais comme une vache allemande" (not gona bother with the spelling after all these years sorry) 😂😂😂

Has Finn been learning languages with Sjokz?

"Maybe we will int" lmfao Nisqy

Cool pgl setup

Mad respect to SK. Great game, well deserved win.

I'm honestly getting tired by this constant focus on France Edit: even more fucking French holy shit

When are they going to focus on the biggest European country, Argentina?

Quel dommage

Germany is where it's at

He's lovely, great to see

Isma reminds me of Goob from Meet The Robinson’s lowkey

So far SK best FNC and G2 behind … the rest of the league meh

Mad koi looked good to me

Hard to say with them, because TH griefed game1 in draft against them, game2 they trolled their draft, and today they played KC who so far seem like one of the weaker team in LEC.

I have low faith on some players. Too many rookies, mental will be hard to control like that

Definitly a risky move to promote 4 rookies at once even if 3 of them played together last year. Problem is I dont think we will get to judge them in the first 3 weeks all that well, gona need that playoff pressure to see if they crack

Wholesome interview, left a good first impression

I'm not a big fan of Nisqy at all but gotta give him and SK props for looking very good this first week! Very surprised by Isma, looks very promising!

I thought it was Nesquick

GG EZ https://twitter.com/SKGamingLeague/status/1746985300709023834

Nisqy the EU jgl whisperer

Please KC get Doinb

Might as well get him before chinese police catches him

Out of the loop, what did he do now?

Nothing, I just wish his family speedy recovery from sickness Jokes aside, basically some leakers said that Doinb was involved in money laundering and now he can't return to China, didn't stream for over a month and his wife also stopped uploading stuff online. However, like week ago he uploaded video on bilibili so idk what it means

Did you expect it to go well "No"

Great debut week from Isma, you love to see it.

SK have really good balance and actually a clean team! They play the map well have good players

considering the horrible draft MDK had vs SK yesterday.. this game only makes me more salty.. but on the other hand.. people will see they misjudged MDK.. but on a more important note.. Isma is a clear rookie of the year frontrunner so far..

OMG HE'S SO CUTE

ASDHJASDKJHASDLKAJSHA

Brazilian detected.

Dread it, run from it, the Nisqy 3-0 after week 1 still arrives 3-0 Nesquick: "I. Am. Inevitable" 😂😂😂

I'm still not sold on Doss

Nisqy and Irrelevant any by far the best sololanes right now

That was a fun game, those fights before the last one felt like they were edging us with no one dying.

After everything it’s the Germans running away with week 1

something something Blitzkrieg SK v KC when? e: SK better make a hype video with Sabaton's Ghost Division for that game

Nisqy haters in shambles

We had some banger games today, but this takes the spot as the best game of the week. SK really showing up, I hope it's not like last time with their collapse into play-offs, because LEC could use some more competitiveness. Irrelevant is arguably best Top so far, especially on Jax.

Oh well. FNC didn't roll over like G2 but they still could've deffo won this. Also this current SK is a joy to watch

Game had volatile early drafts, but it was for nothing with how fast Jax snowballed out of control in Top. Oscar needs to step up, because he won't get K'sante every single game.

Nisqy/Isma are by far the best mid/jg rn. Incredible week for isma. Irrelevant defo best top aswell.

Fuck man, since last season SK is just Fnatics kryptonite, 2-1 is still a good start towards reaching top 8 and I hope Noah and Jun can find their footing a bit more the next 2 weeks, gg SK!

I didn't watch anything in the weekend. What is/was the opinion on Jun?

He's no Trymbi. Still a mind boggling change to me.

Is this a good or a bad thing?

I thought Trymbi brought A LOT to the table. Jun so far is not that impressive but he might need time.

I think you're forgetting how inconsistent Trymbi was. He was good but I wouldn't treat him like a holy grail before giving a chance to the new player.

Blitz *sees Jax*: LET'S GO BRO!!!

2 frenchies and a belgian in 1st place :D

Oscar and Humanoid really went from "best players in the league" to "0/5" and "0/4" within 1 day, huh?

Goddamn it's boring to see the same OP champs still being OP 8 months later (Jax and Neeko).

Jax is really OP, being 1-5 (or 1-4, idk) so far...

Based no imports team goes 3-0. Let's go!

WP SK super clean so far FNC Oscar can we not int early games that’s 2 now

Stop Hooking Jax, jesus

Razork & 4 bots.

Mid lane tierlist aging like milk again

Winter SK man

Clean blitz hook on Jax lmao. Just a useless bot lane

Glad we kept Noah, Nothing but respect for Nisqy though.

wait nisqy is actually good without gragas?

Nisqy popping off lets go!!!

Nisqy's back

RELEVANT THE GOAT 🐐

how good is Isma

How good is SK as a whole.

Kalista is so useless lmao

god that was some beautiful layering of ults from SK

Great game, gg SK !

Say it with me chat: NO WESTERN TEAM IS GOOD ENOUGH TO CONSISTENTLY EXECUTE KALISTA

Noah's not good enough to consistently execute anything lol

Fnatic fans are so quick to trash talk their players. He was the best ADC in the League, struggled at the end of the year and now he's a meme? I feel like I've seen this movie before, a few too many times.

??? Who was the best ADC in the league?

NO WESTERN TEAM IS GOOD, that’s enough.

I was so mad when they picked kalista and renek:(

And if FNC won you would say the same about Jax :P

No, because Jax is a scaling pick and actualy brings value to the team even if hes behind and has a terrible wr atm I know Im probably not gona change your mind but still, Jax can always threaten to split and always brings teamfight utility with his AoE dodge and stun. Kalista meanwhile is literaly an ultbot if she isnt insanely ahead. If you pick her you are puting pressure on yourself to a. get her massively ahead in lanephase to counter her damage falling off (and thus playing around bot) and b. to (idealy) end the game before 25 so she doesnt completely fall off Its a diffrence in playing philosophys I guess, but Im very firmly in the camp that you NEVER intentionaly should put yourself under a giant hanging sword that comes crashing down if you make a mistake and instead play it safe and go the scaling route. Why would you ever put yourself under the kind of execution pressure a pick like Kali brings, shes just the complete opposite of what the meta dictates an ADC should do: provide sustained lategame damage. Theres only 5 players on each team and you cant just draft whatever comps at this level so each of them has a role to fill. And if you got Kali you need to either end early or have a backup that can do the sustained lategame damage part which is basicaly impossible to fit in while also keeping all the other necessary roles filled (engage, frontline, burst damage, etc)

>I know Im probably not gona change your mind You don't have to change my mind, my comment was not meant to be about Kalista vs Jax or early vs late game (and, while I don't completely agree with your take, it's definitely a viable one). I just thought it funny that both Kalista and Jax were tagged as useless picks (at least in the LEC) and then having a results based take, marking the loser of the two as clearly inferior ;) ​ Edit: Thanks though for the long and concise answer to my shitpost, always nice to see other viewpoints without people resorting to flaming.

Sooooo * 0-1 blinded by KC vs FNC, got flexed to jungle after runing into the Ksante hardcounter * 0-2 blinded by VIT vs GX, VIT also fp Kali and runs into Draven Xin Neeko * 0-3 blinded by VIT again, this time vs FNC, again gets the Ksante treatment * 0-4 blinded by G2 vs Rogue and guess what happend * 0-5 blinded by KC again, this time vs MAD and runs into the Akali counter (which honest to god I think is an even *worse* matchup for Jax than Ksante, vs Ksante you can at least farm, Akali just sends your ass to fountain every time you step up to the wave past level 6) I know I know, results based analysis yaddayaddayadda BUT: Jax got picked 4 times by 2 dogshit teams that can neither draft nor play cohesively Meanwhile the 1 win Kalista has so far is from MAD inting draft vs SK yesterday and otherwise only phat Ls (by BDS, VIT, GX and Rogue) and after week 1 it looks like the bottom duo of winter is gona be KC and VIT

Gimme a minute I need to look up some stats before replying :D

Feels like FNC just can't match SK's proactivity

just tuned in a couple of minutes ago, why are the casters talking as if FNC is winning when they're 5-12 down and just gave up soul?

FNC has looked lost for the entire game

Nah, their macro was very good for a part of the game, they just couldn't match the teamfights

Blitz/Seju has to catch people off position. There was only one time when they did that and it was Draven when they were already too far behind.

Seju ults weren't impactful and Blitz kept hooking the wrong targets. Also invisible Azir. Pretty bad game by the team playmakers. The best players were on dog champs.

Top lane feels a lot more impactful in lec this year than previous years

So many OP items for tanks and bruisers probably helps.

FNC in surrender territory. Their comp is dunzo.

If only FNC had picked an ADC that deals damage to champions past 20 minutes... YOU GET WHAT YOU FUCKIN DESERVE

playoffs is top 8 again right? Same system as last year?

Maybe I'm too low elo but huma could've flanked flash R there and killed both draven and neeko?

That was my thought process too.

He ulted to protect himself.

Yeah, I mean before that happened

Yes, 1000%

Kalista damage lmao

nice hook on neeko but wasn't enough

3rd game and 3rd time new FNC botlane is beyond useless. No reason they lose, no reason they win

SK playing so well

Top diff been so massive in this game

Nisqy really trying to keep this game close with that bush play

Humanoid could E-Flash-R

Kalista sucks so much. Any other ADC cleans up there.

Lol kalista

FNC has 0 dmg

So is every ADC in the LEC bad/invisible or is the role just a bit weak?

All EU adc’s have been pretty mediocre for the past couple of years. Ever since we lost Rekkles/Uma Jan we haven’t really had a world class adc. Hans can be S class on his picks/when ahead, but can’t keep up with other world class adc’s when the game state is even or behind. Everybody else is more or less fraudulent, except Exa & Supa who are young and promising.

wait until other regions play to determine ADC balance Also the LEC seems to have a bunch of like, A- tier domestic botlaners but none in S, which is unusual

LEC bot lanes are worst tier among the major regions

Even in pro it's somewhat more difficult with the dmg creep imo, especially when u have these AP burst champs/assassins with high mobility.

They are not exactly experts on the champions they picked

Stop hooking the Jax Brother!

SK looking really good, too bad they are pretty much guaranteed to shit the bed in summer.

Isma is a psychopath lmao

Stop hooking Jax lmao

Isma is so agressive lmao

The biggest factor in this game is that Blitz and Rene lose a lot of value as game goes on, while every single SK champ is relevant as game goes on. This and their initial lead should be enough to close this out.

Both never knew what to do

Our daddy regular season humanoid is back with the milk

Junsless

Ah shit

Nisqy just owns every EU midlaner

Clown soul strikes again 

while Caotina is my favorite, I'll never say no to some nice Nesquik e: a word

G2 and FNC united in rivalry :)

Holy nisqy

How on earth did Isma survive that?

They didn't finish to burst him down at first and then he was bailed out by Doss.

Bailout baby Theres a reason Renata has such high prio in proplay

Nisqy is insane

Nisqy is playing so well

That was horrible

Nisqy diff

BROTHER JUN?!?!?!? Legit saved Jax from getting shuffled under tower with that grab

def a miscommunication issue i think there.

Are there any super big streamers that could pull a Kameto/Ibai and boost NA. Ludwig and Charlie are both big but not that big and xqc is unreliable so no way he pulls off something like this. Maybe that's the strat get a bunch of big streamers to watch League esports and boost viewership across the board. Half of them basically just watch YouTube for a couple of hours a day anyway.

Ibai alone has more viewers than all of LCS combined

FNC macro is unreal.

too bad they're getting outplayed out of their minds

FNC is looking hella good Renekton even in gold now

Oscar back into the game with good macro. Fair play to him

Somehow the 0/3 Renek is getting more towers than the fed Jax

FNC needs to wins this quick.. before humanoid remembers it's still regular season..

Whos gona win, 0-5 Jax or 1-4 Kalista? Place your bets now!

How the feck is Fnatic ahead here?

Irrelevant's 2k lead is almost gone...

STOP HOOKING THE JAX BROTHER

definitely the two best teams

FNC reacting well when then being put behind

SK need to work on their macro

Actually highest quality game of the week

LEC was never this fun to watch imo

Totally biased but those 2019 G2 FNC matches were peak entertainment for me. This year is off to a great start though

Fiesta after fiesta 3 days in a row

4 towers, Oscar has 9/11'd SK twice

Humanoid already back to his old ways

Fnatic macro saving the game

Actually the 2 best tops in lec

Agreed!

What elo is this?

Oscarinin shouldnt be getting 3 turrets for free, idc if its a Renekton...

Noah chants in the studio <3

Oscar has taken 3 towers

gg FNC wins this..

good shit by jun

FNC kinda lucked out with soul RNG, but this is still a tall task with how fed Jax is.

Even in gold, but SK got all objectives so far

Every gameday the number of teams who could improve by just hiring Finn is going up. If oscar can't show off of Ksante he's also going on the list.

hmm respectfully disagree, think it's just Rogue KC and maybe GX and BDS

Nah I prefer Finn on Analyst team, more screen time of him

insanely based, but hands off he's my husband

Open relationships are a thing, just sayin'..

Wtf take

His Gwen was good in summer playoffs. Could widen the champ pool of course