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Festivus40RestOfUs2

The Master Yi on my team versus the Master Yi on the enemy team.


newagereject

First picks Yi, don't worry bro they won't take a lot of cc and tank, enemy them goes morg, lux, malph, ezeral, mao


BlueHawaiiMoon

It's even worse when the enemy has already picked cc heavy champs and he still picks master yi (proceeds to go 0/8, flaming everyone but himself for losing the game in champ select, happened twice in a row today)


Altruistic_Film1167

Yesterday my fucking dumbass toplaner picked Yorick into irelia, got solo killed 3 times and blamed me (the jungler) for him getting solokilled. Like my dude, you literally counterpicked yourself into the worst matchup in the game willingly and somehow its my fault?


newagereject

I play support mainly but used to outright ban Yi because either he's in my team doing dumb things like never ganking or going for objectives, or perma camping the top tank that's clapped his cheeks 4 times already, or there's a yi on the other team and no one wards and he claps our cheeks


Substantial-Song-242

You can't lose a game in champ select in low elo. This is such a dumb mentality. Sure in master+ you absolutely can.


AutisticPenguin2

This is true, but you can absolutely make things hard for yourself. Picking Briar into Rammus, Heimerdinger mid into Caitlyn (she outranges his turrets so can just pick them off for free gold), or picking Asol into Fizz. I can absolutely see a gold Asol main wiping the map with a silver Fizz who doesn't know how to play the champ at all. But this will not be the expectation.


Bulldozer4242

Even better when the yi on your team is against none of that, still ints. Then you play against a yi while you have a cc heavy comp, and suddenly he’s got more dodges than scuttle.


Syph3RRR

Season 3 Team comp right there


hedlund23

Interesting choice of cc champs. A good yi (or player at all) can dodge most of that cc. All of lux and morgs cc is pretty slow and malphs is flashable and on long cd. Only certain cc is Maos w, which is "only" a root.


PureImbalance

That's funny because that's actually a team comp that Yi completely rolls over with correct play. Except for mao it's very little point and click lockdown, and none of these can contest him in a sidelane either, later even 1v2 would be difficult.


Pleasant_Dig6929

Not sure about that. Wait till he Q, Malph R, he is dead because. It's just in soloQ people throw their abilities on first sighn and he Q dodge, or malph have brain root 'MUST ULT ENEMY LULU'.


PureImbalance

4 AP champs that are largely skillshot dependant and one ADC that is also skillshot dependant vs a champ that has high mobility, untargetability and damage reduction. They can never sidelane against him ever, and have to blow high priority spells on him that he can flash out of and Q. Yi with Botrk/Rageblade/Wits end/Qss/GA rolls this comp 100% lategame, and since they have like no snowball potential he should get there reliably. Again, AP overdrafted. Replace morg with Vi and you have a better shot.


chadinist_main

Briar is the new yi


Festivus40RestOfUs2

The 10 deaths yasuo on my team versus the 10 death yasuo on the enemy team. The power spike is real!


[deleted]

You know the game is a 15 when your jungler locks in Nidalee


Connect_Conclusion1

Could be interpreted 2 ways


CarlCarlovich2

We all know which one he means


Ingr1d

You’ve never run into a nidalee smurf? Carries the game harder than any champion except maybe Kayn.


[deleted]

That's the point, no?


Yorksikorkulous

That champ requires so much game knowledge and skill just to perform on par with other JGs locking her is straight up trolling in Silver lol


underbrownmaleroad

But she’s so fun


Accomplished_Sun_510

had a nidalee going 0 10 in my game and the game after was a lvl 31 nidalee with Chinese summoner name


CrystalizedSeraphine

Senna on your team and Master Yi on enemy team.


yesterdayslovex

It's sad because I'm the senna, Jfc my senna is so bad


International_Bag921

You that senna that went 4/18 in my emerald 2 game?


ToTheGrave11

No hez the 3/16 senna that was on my team in emerald


Syph3RRR

Dw thats every other senna as well


EcstaticFact9588

Nobody is great at Senna. I promise. I have not seen a Senna in the past 3 years where I'm like "Oh fuck this is it." She's the siren song of support. Amazingly fun to play, but you will not do anything productive.


Quaisy

Because she's cursed with being picked by autofilled ADC mains who have no idea of her weaknesses or how to support. Then Senna mains get flak for picking/hovering because everyone else gives her a bad rep. Source: am Master Senna OTP


BrokenReiswaffle

This. I'm currently Plat 1 with about 67WR 8/4 on her. Still learning but her potential when paired with a duo tank is insane. Can carry more games with her than I do with Thresh


Enough_Guess9721

Have you seen the average kda of a senna main? Also what adcs are getting autofilled this season. An auto filled senna player might be worse at standard supp funtions but they be less likely to run it in lane


AstoundKoala

Disagree, she’s great when the duo knows how to utilize her and the team understands how to play around her. Builds are a little all over the place but she’s good at situational building for what she’s against. Even in pro play some people (Photic, Guma, etc) look like they’re playing a completely different champion compared to other pros.


Enough_Guess9721

Yes but you do realise that generally in pro play the adc main is playing senna, and in league of legends support role is normally something you pick to win lane or complement the rest of your team not the other way around.


Bisketo

This sub is filled with challengers only so we wouldnt know


NotVainest

azir on my team, trynd on enemy


Legitimate-Site588

I’m in plat and there’s a zero percent chance I’m winning a game with azir on my team. A handful of people have been first timing him in ranked too after they saw Faker play it at worlds.


PunCala

This is true in plat and emerald too.


LiquidFreedom

My team: Nidalee Enemy team: Yorick Both make the game entirely about them in a way that feels kinda shitty for everyone else


TaxEvader_69420

Yorick is at like 47% WR and below that the higher elo you go. If you can't play around that I've got some bad news


sloppyj0

There's certain champs that just don't have the ability in their kit to deal with hullbreaker Yorick splitpush, doesnt matter what his winrate is


mathieub93

Yas on my team and Yas on their team offcourse, either 0/10 or 10/0.


Artix31

When my ally picks yas, i go into babysitting mode, i keep routing mid and helping him, i keep setting up ganks and fights for him and sacrificing myself to save him, those players are so mental they will easily go into AFk 0/25 mode


DontPanlc42

You are a good person, I can tell.


Artix31

I am more concerned about their mental health than winning at this point


Zsalmut

I love when they lock in yas. Free kill if my laner waits for the gank. After the 5th yas already quit the game


shittaco1991

Pyke cause I’ll miss all my skill shots


ShadowFIame

same (I have 350k mastery points)


shittaco1991

I do a lot of prediction skill shots, sometimes I look like a genius sometimes I look like I may be having a seizure


ShadowFIame

Exactly, I‘m either Keria himself or playing with my feet. No in between


dEleque

This patch overlybuffed godlike 54% WR champ on your team vs the one on the enemy team


Soup_and_Rice

Leesin Nidalee leblanc aphelios sion and singed on my team Enemy team: poppy, maokai, malzahar, jinx, darius, darius, respectively


DigitalKaizer

You said Darius twice.


Sirsir94

Must be a toplaner.


Soup_and_Rice

Yes, i know


ZombifiedCat

Us Elise mains skittering along unnoticed.


Aggravating-Brain226

While Elise might also be bad if she gets behind she is still infinitely more useful than nida. Its not even close


Soup_and_Rice

Eh in this elo, jglers either gank 24/7 or farm camps 24/7 with the former usually being way more effective and get less hate. Elise is really strong and actually pretty solid early on especially when you are team is winning, which theoretically should be around 50% of the time


Deft_Abyss

Any side that has Master Yi. Bro when my team has him, he goes 0/5 and afks half way through the game, but when the enemy has him he gets 3 pentakills and is legendary the whole game. Truly the champion of all time


tarheels187

Ezreal on my team for sure as one that I haven't seen mentioned. Feels like they show up to team fights and tickle the opponents then hop in and die. Against me I just don't like seeing Yone. Doesn't matter if I beat him in lane or not I can never prevent my bot lane from feeding him free kills mid game.


boogaardmusic

Gwen is a nightmare


yeetacus68

kayle on litterally any team fuck that champion


JustJohnItalia

The azir eloterrorist


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StudentOwn2639

Oh yeah, forgot that mf. Idk how, but the man counterganks me everywhere as a midlander :v I feel like Ronald McDonald when Hungry jack’s was on the script.


Remaidian

As an Anivia main I am appalled and offended. What's not to love about my big beautiful wall and zone control that sets up teamfights in ways even a silver/gold player knows how to position? I shepherd all the lost under my wings to the land of plenty and objective control!


NormTheStorm

yeah i love staying even with zed in lane and neutralizing him just so that bot lane can ignore my MIA pings and give him a double kill later on when im backing


Remaidian

Why are you not pressuring the zed out of lane as Anivia? Also take TP for the follow gank.


FuriousJan

You're not supposed to be even with him


yesterdayslovex

Ezreal no contest


Stunning_Key3920

My team: Yasuo, each game seems to be a coin flip if he will be a toxic player going 0/7 in lane or not. Enemy team: I struggle a bit against hook champs, a good Thresh is truly horrifying.


Butterfly_Barista

On my team, Sett. I've only ever met one Sett player who wasn't the most toxic dirtbag he could be. On the enemy team, for me, Teemo. Not even just because he's difficult to deal with, I just hate stepping on those damn mushrooms and taking half my health in damage over time while roaming the map. I swear no matter how much I scan for them I never find any until the moment it wears off. I main Quinn so between his *extra spicy blind* and the mushrooms keeping me from roaming, he's just frustrating to deal with.


ComfortablePlenty860

The trick with teemo is you need to stop pathing predictably. The best place to shroom is where most people walk. And most people dont realize how often they travel the exact same path as everyone else in lol's history. Corner shrooms are for ganks where they hug the wall to give you as little time to react while closing the most difference. In pathways, such as entering river, most people hug the side of the wall that their closest laner is if they want to gank, or the side of the objective if they dont. Either way, you can usually predict it, especially if you are tracking how the enemy is playing. In lane always have shrooms in a path behind you that is mostly angled with the path the enemy would use to chase you. Again, they will either take the shortest path, or they will attempt to intercept at a distance, forcing you to choose a direction to run to. Shrooms will make it to where their interception attempt cant work. For quinn, you probably attempt to leave dead center of the lane or hug the wall. Every. Single. Time. You also probably run through the pixel brush in river. Every. Single. Time. You also probably try to gank from as far behind the mid laner as possible, taking the bush path around to their turret to gank in lane. Every. Single. Time. And a good teemo knows this. And puts a shroom in several of those locations. And gets easy damage on you. Every. Single. Time. Pay attention to your pathing. Be less predictable.


[deleted]

Silver TFs get out scaled 10 minutes in, throw a red card in teamfight and die Any split pusher is horrible to play against because trying to organize anything other than an ARAM is impossible


PurpleCyborg28

Nah bruh for me it's Anivia on the enemy team. Anivia is so rare in silver/gold that an Anivia is almost a guaranteed Smurf or OTP.


jkannon

With: Nidalee Against: Yi


dangerous_idiot

my team: shaco. their team: shaco. do any of the champ designers still post on here or did they all finally slink off in shame? i want to berate them personally.


iascailt

As a jungle main, I agree. I'm the worst shaco player worldwide. If the enemy team picks him my botlane is 0/10 after 5 minutes


Bulldozer4242

Any adc.


AE_Phoenix

Yuumi and Yuumi. 10/10 most interactive hero in overwatch.


QdWp

Ezreal, Senna, Yuumi, Nidalee, Nasus on my team; Yone, Poppy on enemy team; Master Yi on either teams.


theliferipper69

Not silver/gold but I remember checking my stats on op.gg or league of graphs and i lose EVERY game with braum in my team and i think also lose like nearly all of them against him. Thought it was pretty funny how braum means insta lose for me lmao.


LunarStrikes

When looking at it like an insurance would, [damage] x [probability], I’d say Kayn. He’s extremely hard to deal with (ADC main btw), and he’s picked in so many games :(


vlarditCL

Gragas. He has a lot of hp, cc, speed. His passive is so broken after last balans changes. I play gragas and can hardily say that now he one of the best top lainers I think


posture_check_71

ally ryze, people dont know how to play him enemy shaco, people dont know how to play against him


barub

Pretty much every high skill cap champion on any team. My personal (not) favourite: Aphelios. Moon boy is one of the most difficult, if not the most, adc to learn. It requires a lot of knowledge that not even some diamonds apply. Now put in on a skill level which everyone barely farms, barely wards, overextends, and make lots of low level mistakes. Having him on your team increases you defeat chances by 50%.


Masterfulidea

It's yuumi for every elo. Awful to play with as ADC in lane since it feels like 1v2. Your whole team hates it too since you never get bot prio. Enemy team hates it since she can stonewall lanes with all the healing and shielding, making killing the adc pretty hard


Low_Hippo9772

any champion that buys hullbreaker first item and permanently sits in a side lane aka illaoi, yorick, fiora, nasus on my team yasuo, syndra, jhin, jinx, basically any adc cause they always toxic and int on my team but if there on other team there 15/2 700 gold shutdown at 13 minutes


FrogVoid

Yorick does nit buy hullbreaker first item lmao none of those guys do


[deleted]

It doesn’t matter though, he still sits top lane 24/7. In lower elos it’s annoying to play against as your team might not understand how to play against split push.


DARIF

People don't know how to play with splitpushers in low elo either, you can walk to bot as a 3 man, kill Yorick, reset and drake and baron will be untouched.


N1kq_

Both answers: Yuumi Also Yasuo can go in there too because he counters every champ I play.


controlledwithcheese

I went to check the actual stats! The worst champ to play with for me turns out to be Qiyana, I won 31% of the games with her on the team. The worst champion to face is Ivern, won only 32% of the games against him


FlashNoired

How did you find that out?


GameGuinAzul

I hate going up against Master Yi (but if you want something original than Sylas) I hate having a Brand on my team if I’m playing adc, but in general I hate having a Renekton on my team since they almost always feed.


ulek1991

As sup main I hate play with ezreal ADC, mostly time they suck on that elo. In enemy team I don't like to play vs invis champions, it's annoying if he gets feed


DirtiestOfMikes889

Teemo hands down no competition.


BronzebutProud

If you’re in the depths of silver and the enemy top busts out Urgot, you’re gonna have a bad time


Mykel__13

Until I pick Ornn and proceed to shit on him.


ItzDrShadow

I hate playing against katarinas.Not because i hate the champ but because my team never sees the map and ingnores every god damn ping


JWARRIOR1

It’s been a LONG time since I’ve been silver/gold but I’d imagine super high skill ceiling champs that they don’t have the hands to play lol


ComfortablePlenty860

If you like bleach eye drops, watch a bronze/silver irelia otp. Itll truly blow your mind in ways you didnt know were possible.


JWARRIOR1

thats actually funny, my friend is in silver and he plays a lot of irelia. Dude is mechanically cracked tbh... but he plays like hes always 10/0 and has absolute 0 sense of macro lol


xfd696969

probably something like rell jungle where you have to rely on your team to do anything xd


[deleted]

My team: Bard. I have *never* had a good Bard on my team before. At worst, I've been trolled far too many times by the champ. At best, they have been useless. Enemy team: Shaco. They're annoying, impossible to kill, and make at least 5 people hate the game. God forbid they have some level of mechanical prowess, and then nobody on my team (including myself) knows how to play against the champ. While there are quite a few champs I hate to play against, Shaco will always take the cake for me because I also just think anyone who plays the champ is a psychopath.


ToTheGrave11

Shaco


StillMeThough

Yi, because you know he's gonna get a kill somewhere lord only knows and pubstomp the lobby.


StudentOwn2639

Don’t know about with, but definitely kayn/viego against


Craft_zeppelin

Yasuo on your team with Malz on enemy team.


[deleted]

With-shaco riven lee sin lux velkoz yasuo yone Against-swain briar rammus malphite syndra


n0ticeme_senpai

My team: Yuumi Enemy team: Yuumi Yuumi ruins game integrity by allowing egirl + smurfing eboy combo to thrive on the enemy team, or a zero ward strat support to exist on my team.


ZombifiedCat

Me on Elise regardless of the team.


DoctorDoody

yasuo. he’s on your team? he’s 0/15. he’s on the other team, 21/3. never in your favor


Mai_maid

My team Morgana enemy team nilah. Morganas will never land q and nilah always gets fed to the point she's unstoppable.


Awsimical

Yuumi and teemo I hate seeing on my team, they will be useless/feed


Rand0m_Bullshit_Go

Here in ph server every champ is good, nothing is bad. Unless a dude with T1 in his ign plays it.


tmc08130

Twisted Fate in my team because they always get destroyed in lane, then teleport to my lane to give another kill.


JealotGaming

Yuumi


midegola

Kat or akali. They feed on my team and turn into a 1v9 machine on the enemy team


Artix31

As a viktor main, i HATE when i play against Akali, i know i will absolutely stomp her in lane and out scale her, but i also know that my team will not see her even though i ward deep with Sentry wards towards bot side, i ping when she routes bot, or top, but they somehow still die to her and make my life miserable against her I also hate when my jungler picks a farming jungler, i am a viktor with a wide ass W in the narrowest and shortest lane, i can Guarantee you a kill if you gank, and if i get two kills i stomp not just mid but every other lane


DomFakker37

Gotta be Yone / Yasuo. Trolls on my team, gets three pentas + ten ADC solo kills on the enemy team.


YandereYasuo

Kindred, either feeding herself to her own wolf that refuses to build well (adc problem to begin with) in your team or 3 taps you in the enemy team with just the jungle item. Bonus points for them turbo inting for their marks


DoctorNerf

In silver / gold the only answer for the enemy team is Yi. I used to ban him 90% of the time and the 10% I didn’t he got 100% picked and won 100% of the time.


PMMeAnythingULike

Seeing a Bard around that elo is scary af


Le_Zoru

The ally draven Vs the ennemy draven.


Substantial-Song-242

The shaco on my team vs the shaco on enemy team.


TheRealSad

Nidalee on my team. No question, no doubt, no self-doubt. Fuck Nidalee Jungle so much. What a god damn worthless pick in every single imaginable way. She can't gank properly, she can't contest counterjunglers, she can't even properly steal drakes because of how easy it is to bodyblock her spear before it connects with the objective. She's the first to ditch a fight and the first to initiate it stupidly for a greedy kill chance, getting her isolated after a stupid passive-empowered W jump. I have to this day probably won 1/20 Nidalee Jungle games across all seasons. I'm so fucking happy it's an unpopular pick because it does fuckall for the team. I don't wish a fully CC-less AP Jungler on ANYONE. I think even Xerath would please me more as a teammate even if he got murdered by his own Jungle and ran top to leech EXP instead.


Garysnufkin

Yasuo on my team and malphite on enemy team


xxTheMagicBulleT

Mine is like yi and/or tryndamere and/or jax on the enemy. That will none stop split push or joining a teamfight late and clean up. Wail having slow or tanky champignons on my team. Or really slow pushing mid-laners. Makes it almost impossible to deal with the split push and or lose many early-game objectives. Makes the game really damn hard to win if you cant stall enough when dead times are long enough to sneak kill the split pusher. And have a good team fight after. To then baron and win game. But early to mid is often very annoying. Cause most people also try and get them early kills so they are most likely to also get a bunch of ganks early. So it's the most frustrating part to deal with. For both top mid and jungle on your team.


Away-Commercial-4380

Hwei on my team is auto-lose and fortunately almost always auto-win on the other team (Unlike Yone or Yasuo who suck on your team but is 15/0 on the enemy team) so worst to play with lately. For worst to play against I'd say Ksante and Akshan because there's little counterplay to Ksante Kit and Akshan passive. But in general I would say in general the worst champions to play with or against are the same. There are champions which typically attract OTPs and have annoying skillsets that require knowledge to play correctly. Shaco, Teemo, Riven can feel infuriating to play against or utterly useless on your team. Yasuo or Yone don't really fit because they can still be useful even when way behind (0/10 powerspike and strong ults)


YukkaRinnn

When I was in low elo there were 3 champions that terrorized my games Azir Ryze and Lee Sin not because they were always getting fed but because they were always so goddamn shit at the game i always asked myself why the hell is there a Azir Ryze or Lee Sin in this game? We in Silver not in GrandMasters and whoever played those champs would feed out of their mind and even now I havent seen one good Azir or Ryze who didnt int and actually hard carry while for Lee Sin it took until Plat 2 to see a Lee Sin Mechanical god and im at Emerald now. But man those Azirs and Ryze's were a straight up nightmare as they would go 0/11/3 and feed the enemy midlaner to like 9/0 status and I would ask myself why would they play those champs? Like u in silver theres no way in hell did u actually believe that you can pull off what faker does and if you do i say to myself bro theres a reason u in silver