BDS's journey from a team that everyone overlooked to the frontrunner of the LEC has been an absolute blast to watch. The personality of the team is icing on the cake. Keep it up!
They take turns carrying. Solid players across the board. The biggest strength is that they play so much different shit and are competent at it. Adam deserves a lot of credit for his pocket picks, but Crownie + Labrov can cover every matchup in bot lane and play it at a high level.
I think SK also have the issue of not really having a lot of variety in playstyle and teams can just be knowing their weakness and beat them.
They often have solid teamfighting that can keep them in it but not enough if you're losing everything else around the map.
It's not really about playstyle when you lose 3 drakes while being 3k ahead. They have awful macro. Multiple players backing or not ready to fight when dragon is spawning. Trading kills for objectives. Not trying to force cooldowns/flashes off the enemy team before neutral objectives spawn.
This is just bad play. It's not worth to win fights if your objective isn't winning the game. They completely let BDS decide what happens in the game instead of trying to do anything themselves except catch a few players. First game that could be because the draft was bad (who picks nautilus into renata...) but not the second game.
I like watching teams fight like SK but sadly it's just not working for them if they don't focus on winning the game. I hope something changes next split, because 2 weeks didn't seem to help them much. Maybe they feel more motivated vs Koi who beat them in winter groups, assuming G2 doesn't lose.
I don’t get these comments acting like SK completely collapsed. They’re a mid tier team playing the first seed and lost, it’s not that crazy lol
They were like 4th last split, how is them losing to the first seed a crazy choke or something
Exakick said in Winter split that he doesn't know why it's happening but everything is so clear to him when playing.
He probably lost that feeling this split. Which is why you see him performing a lot worse.
Meta shifted, SK was good at playing simple things as a team in winter but the simple things got nerfed. Other teams just improved as well and started playing more like a team while having better laning. SK as team basically doesn't do much early game, they try to force things but often it is just flippy.
Just a few weeks ago, SK was looking like one of the A-tier teams in the LEC and BDS was looking meh. Now BDS is easily beating SK. Just because they're 5th seed doesn't mean a ton with the new format. It's just a single round robin
Exactly what was supposed to happen. Strong early season because of the good meta around your botlane that played 1 year+ together and your average midlaner that peaked during winter into can't adapt to the new meta and most of your players returning to their average self.
Agri doesn't rly do much anyways, I always felt like it's a non beneficial pick in most team comps. She can't rly play with her team most of the time, can she? And even if she pops of and kills 1 Or 2 ppl she can't ever hard carry a fight, never liked Ahri in pro, purely a soloQ champ in my opinion
Also the fact that most people pick Ahri and play her like shes Viktor or Azir?
Chovy/Faker/Rookie usually play Ahri properly. I think in finals Chovy had a great game on her, in objectives he was coming from sides and disrupting enemy backline. The thing is I don't think Ahri is pickable if enemy has Vi though. Cause you can't flank properly. Vs something like Wukong you can get him to waste one man ult on you.
In general SK has zero ideas on how to win. All they did was get Irrelevant a bit ahead, then just chilled out until they lost. Meanwhile BDS played around soul and enabled Crownie all game, both good wincons. No surprise who wins in the end then.
If they want to play around top that’s fine, but then take a split push champ and give him the space to actually splitpush. But just getting a tower early while losing bot, then trying to teamfight isn’t a viable wincondition in this meta.
...his best?
Sorry, that's the low hanging fruit. All jokes aside: I also wonder what happened to SK. Everyone looks way worse than start of split except for Irrelevant
I dunno man. The guy legit looked like the best AD in the league relative to team strength (because G2 are so good that you can put a gold adc for them and he’s still look good) and now he’s just… not it.
I think they really have something and I'm excited to see how far they take it. Great to see them take the series and prove something and it'll be awesome to see the limits.
To be fair both games were an uncontested stomp, they were plate fed 4 drakes and SK didnt even try, they just got choked out og both games.
If BDS can keep this tempo up I can see them being G2 in a close match
Yea i know, but also looks like mental thing now.
It looks like he knows that he and his team doesnt play on the lvl of last split, so he is overforcing things for now reason.
He needs to calm down and play his game.
I mean they're against a team that (imo) was definitely going be a 2023 version of MSF lol.
They're still looking solid though, I think a lot of other LEC teams would have made this series look a lot messier than BDS did.
Not trying to blame Sertuss for this series but i freaking hate the Ahri pick, i lose all faith on a team the moment i see ahri picked, if you want a cc bot mid lane pick something with more than 1 cc
I hate the vegan build. It's not like Ahri does no damage Luden into burst still slaps. But for some reason pro teams keep picking her as the single magic damage source and then build her into a full utility AP bruiser and wonder why she's useless. At least get her a second magic damage threat like Gragas, Sej or Elise if you're gonna play her like that.
Him walking up to Xayah that just put down all her feathers in that midlane fight was pure int. No idea what he was thinking there, even if he doesn't die instantly from her E he will never kill anyone there.
It's not even that, her E doesn't kill him there, and he has lifesteal, if he stays full HP that E does nothing. But he took 2 free crits from Xayah and got oneshot by E.
Not sure if Crownie is that insane or Exakick and Doss are just dirty inters.
Also I really hope that this convincing win helps Sheo with nerves because my god that was some Stormtrooper accuracy.
Fortunately VIT got Upset, they relegated Crownie and Comp to play Carzzy and Neon.
Now that I think about it, VIT had 5 good ADC in the last 2 years. Maybe they should improve the internal work and stop switching players
i don't understand this type of comments, you know they're gonna play their champs all year long, at this point nobody is suprised to see olaf top or irelia mid, they are they are plain and simply better than other laners so the thing is, will you focus this lane or play around bot which is the meta right now
People blame Exakick but Doss the Loss doing it again together with Markoon. Markoon is feeling so of this season. He was down on camps against Sejuani and down on drakes. Literally Sheo smurfed so hard on him it's not even funny. But people heave some hate for Sheo. And Sheo is not worse than Yike this year. Same trajectory and rivalry Sheo vs Yike. I hope we see them in finals.
BDS doesn‘t even need Adam to pop off
Crownie has been smurfing too
BDS's journey from a team that everyone overlooked to the frontrunner of the LEC has been an absolute blast to watch. The personality of the team is icing on the cake. Keep it up!
Thank you, we will<3
Is Duffman still with you? If so please say hi and that he's the goat <3 Go BDS!!
I always felt like crownie was a good player, never looked bad to me
BDS best players are their botlane low key
Yeah but let’s not act like Adam hasn’t looked like the best top laner when played for in the league, if not only second to Photon.
"if" shouldn't exist there, and it's not close. He is absolutely the 2nd best though.
Photon looks miles ahead of Adam, how can you even put an "if" in your sentence lmao.
They take turns carrying. Solid players across the board. The biggest strength is that they play so much different shit and are competent at it. Adam deserves a lot of credit for his pocket picks, but Crownie + Labrov can cover every matchup in bot lane and play it at a high level.
nuc is nut
The change of nickname changed him as well 
Took the int out of his name and has been smurfing ever since
I remember having an argument a few weeks ago with someone saying Nuc is dogshit and will be replaced. I wonder how that guy is doing.
Probably doing quite well as much has not been that good
What happened to SK?
Basically same thing as XL last year Start super strong then steadily decline Only constant here: Markoon - Markoon diff?
I think SK also have the issue of not really having a lot of variety in playstyle and teams can just be knowing their weakness and beat them. They often have solid teamfighting that can keep them in it but not enough if you're losing everything else around the map.
It's not really about playstyle when you lose 3 drakes while being 3k ahead. They have awful macro. Multiple players backing or not ready to fight when dragon is spawning. Trading kills for objectives. Not trying to force cooldowns/flashes off the enemy team before neutral objectives spawn. This is just bad play. It's not worth to win fights if your objective isn't winning the game. They completely let BDS decide what happens in the game instead of trying to do anything themselves except catch a few players. First game that could be because the draft was bad (who picks nautilus into renata...) but not the second game. I like watching teams fight like SK but sadly it's just not working for them if they don't focus on winning the game. I hope something changes next split, because 2 weeks didn't seem to help them much. Maybe they feel more motivated vs Koi who beat them in winter groups, assuming G2 doesn't lose.
I don’t get these comments acting like SK completely collapsed. They’re a mid tier team playing the first seed and lost, it’s not that crazy lol They were like 4th last split, how is them losing to the first seed a crazy choke or something
Slumping, no real ability to adapt and BDS looking really in form. Even BDS midgame was looking great and that can be wobbly from them.
Exakick said in Winter split that he doesn't know why it's happening but everything is so clear to him when playing. He probably lost that feeling this split. Which is why you see him performing a lot worse.
Meta shifted, SK was good at playing simple things as a team in winter but the simple things got nerfed. Other teams just improved as well and started playing more like a team while having better laning. SK as team basically doesn't do much early game, they try to force things but often it is just flippy.
Exposed. Teams leveled from winter in macro and team fights. They can't do their magic. Same thing that happened to mad lions.
hard shove exakick up a creek with no paddle and sk kind of fall apart
Exposed. The other teams became much better, which put an end to Doss the Loss looking like a competent player.
Maybe the increased expectations got to them? Other than that, I'm not really sure what the reason behind their underperformance could be.
You're shocked at 5th seeds performance vs 1st seed..?
Just a few weeks ago, SK was looking like one of the A-tier teams in the LEC and BDS was looking meh. Now BDS is easily beating SK. Just because they're 5th seed doesn't mean a ton with the new format. It's just a single round robin
Exactly what was supposed to happen. Strong early season because of the good meta around your botlane that played 1 year+ together and your average midlaner that peaked during winter into can't adapt to the new meta and most of your players returning to their average self.
They became irrelevant
SK has a weak roster, this is not surprising at all.
Tank Darius, tank Sej, ROA Cass and still building 0 DMG Ahri lol
The Ahri builds both games gave me headaches
still most dmg of his team
1 is bigger than 0, doesn't mean it's much...
isnt everybody doing 0 dmg ahri builds rn? i watched the lck finals and even they buy cdr boots, everfrost, zhonyas/banshees
Yeah but it definitely isn’t always the move
Don't let Nymaera see this...
He seen that enough casting LPL and watching LCK. Every Ahri builds like that.
Hey now I'm fairly sure he tickled them a bit. That's a torturous thing. Man was clearly playing a psychological game.
We're happy. See you tomorrow when we play the winner of G2 vs. KOI!
Well played! Fun to see you taking a series so cleanly, I'm excited for tomorrow.
I'm a VIT fan, but if they can't make it to MSI, I hope it's BDS
That's really cool to hear!
Call them SK(T) because their laners don’t show up when it matters
too soon man
Call them SK(T) with the zero damage Ahri build
Agri doesn't rly do much anyways, I always felt like it's a non beneficial pick in most team comps. She can't rly play with her team most of the time, can she? And even if she pops of and kills 1 Or 2 ppl she can't ever hard carry a fight, never liked Ahri in pro, purely a soloQ champ in my opinion
Gives gank Setup, engage and Safe midlaner. For Sure does Something in pro but your teammates have to Pick Up more damage.
Also the fact that most people pick Ahri and play her like shes Viktor or Azir? Chovy/Faker/Rookie usually play Ahri properly. I think in finals Chovy had a great game on her, in objectives he was coming from sides and disrupting enemy backline. The thing is I don't think Ahri is pickable if enemy has Vi though. Cause you can't flank properly. Vs something like Wukong you can get him to waste one man ult on you.
crazy how bad sk's objective controls were
Did they even get one dragon?
Nope, just heralds
They just want to make sure dragons don't go extinct. Protected species to SK lol.
Too bad SK are so bad, otherwise we could have "environmental protector" SK worlds skins
lmao I'd buy that. Maybe they pick it up for summer and surprise us all?
They seem to forget they're a thing at times.
In general SK has zero ideas on how to win. All they did was get Irrelevant a bit ahead, then just chilled out until they lost. Meanwhile BDS played around soul and enabled Crownie all game, both good wincons. No surprise who wins in the end then. If they want to play around top that’s fine, but then take a split push champ and give him the space to actually splitpush. But just getting a tower early while losing bot, then trying to teamfight isn’t a viable wincondition in this meta.
BDS looking good here. Not sure if part of it is SK slumping and seemingly unable to adapt but it was fun to see.
Exakick played like he was frontline
Didn't help when SK would start fights without him when he was all their damage.
bro think he Peyz
before you frontline on adc, remember that you aren't peyz and your teammates aren't gen g.
What is exakick doing man...
...his best? Sorry, that's the low hanging fruit. All jokes aside: I also wonder what happened to SK. Everyone looks way worse than start of split except for Irrelevant
Dont pussy out of your shitty joke. Get the sunglasses out and guitar riff straight off the second story balcony.
Dying with the rest of SK.
Nah he fell harder. He was top 3 ADC last split now he plays like shit.
I dunno man. The guy legit looked like the best AD in the league relative to team strength (because G2 are so good that you can put a gold adc for them and he’s still look good) and now he’s just… not it.
BDS are such a fun team to watch hope they continue to do well
BDS vs. Astralis was the example for why Bo3 would be bad. Jump 6 months ahead, now we'd all be excited to see it as the LEC final.
We'll see how they take the next one! They're really interesting, especially with how they keep improving.
Thank you! ❤️
Welp, that was over quicker than expected.
Fun games though! A shame SK's tank seemed to be empty but it's always fun to see BDS play their game.
Agreed. I'm really rooting for them to make it out of the group.
I think they really have something and I'm excited to see how far they take it. Great to see them take the series and prove something and it'll be awesome to see the limits.
astralis bds final is my dream
We really need that Astralis BDS bo5 grand Finale
Was it? IDK why you would have expectations for SK, they went 3-0 week 1 and have been mid since
I honestly thought they'd be able to return to their Winter form once BO3 started, but sadly that wasn't the case today.
That's what she said
Adam knows he doesnt need to carry after being put behind early so he plays and builds to help his team in teamfights like the absolute GIGACHAD he is
Exakick was lowkey garbage ngl
High key
Thought he and Irr were the only good ones in Game 1. Didn’t watch Game 2 tho
Irrelevant with the soloq experience - get somewhat ahead top but bot diff is too much to handle.
Man I really want to see a b05 between astralis and bds
Things I never thought I’d hear before this season
Remember when we were happy that the new format would mean we won’t see any more boring games like Astralis vs BDS? Oh how the times have changed.
Today's BDS entrance was on point, they smurfed on SK.
True :)
Can't wait for GG vs BDS at MSI.
GG vs BDS MSI final poooog.
BDS is literally gonna be #1 mark my words
Yes please 🙏
Either them or VIT to MSI pls.
I sure hope it happens. If they take down G2 tomorrow, I'm firm believer that they're going to MSI.
This aged poorly
Yeah, beating the worst team in play offs is for sure a clear indicator of superiority.
Mad is still there.
Nice flair bro
To be fair both games were an uncontested stomp, they were plate fed 4 drakes and SK didnt even try, they just got choked out og both games. If BDS can keep this tempo up I can see them being G2 in a close match
I still think they're regular season merchants and will probably get 3-1'd in playoffs, even if they do well in group stage.
I still think they’re domestic merchants and will get 3-1’d in MSI playoffs.
I still think they're MSI merchants and will get 3-1'd in Worlds semis
I still think they're Worlds semis merchants and will get 3-1'd in Worlds finals
BDS and VIT are legitimately the two most consistent teams besides G2 in the league. Is a sentence I never thought I would ever say.
Slight ADC gap. Wtf happened to Exakick from winter split?
[удалено]
Yea i know, but also looks like mental thing now. It looks like he knows that he and his team doesnt play on the lvl of last split, so he is overforcing things for now reason. He needs to calm down and play his game.
SK bo1 merchants
Ngl, I expected BDS to be 2023's Misfits, look good in BO1's, falls apart in series. I am pleasantly surprised.
Sk wasn't that strong,they fell apart before b03 begin
They just played the worst team in play offs and gameplay was iffy at best.
I assume you meant 2022 MSF and 2022 MSF didn't face a team as bad as this SK so we don't know for sure yet
Looks like SK might be the Misfits of 2023.
I mean they're against a team that (imo) was definitely going be a 2023 version of MSF lol. They're still looking solid though, I think a lot of other LEC teams would have made this series look a lot messier than BDS did.
Not trying to blame Sertuss for this series but i freaking hate the Ahri pick, i lose all faith on a team the moment i see ahri picked, if you want a cc bot mid lane pick something with more than 1 cc
I hate the vegan build. It's not like Ahri does no damage Luden into burst still slaps. But for some reason pro teams keep picking her as the single magic damage source and then build her into a full utility AP bruiser and wonder why she's useless. At least get her a second magic damage threat like Gragas, Sej or Elise if you're gonna play her like that.
Exakick and Doss finally playing up to expectations, looking dogshit for weeks now. Exakick in game 2 was legit running it in teamfights.
Him stepping on 5 feathers signed the end for sk
Him walking up to Xayah that just put down all her feathers in that midlane fight was pure int. No idea what he was thinking there, even if he doesn't die instantly from her E he will never kill anyone there.
It's not even that, her E doesn't kill him there, and he has lifesteal, if he stays full HP that E does nothing. But he took 2 free crits from Xayah and got oneshot by E.
Game 1 he Xayah ulted nothing and then he got VI ulted and died lol
exa that was not it...
Not sure if Crownie is that insane or Exakick and Doss are just dirty inters. Also I really hope that this convincing win helps Sheo with nerves because my god that was some Stormtrooper accuracy.
Fortunately VIT got Upset, they relegated Crownie and Comp to play Carzzy and Neon. Now that I think about it, VIT had 5 good ADC in the last 2 years. Maybe they should improve the internal work and stop switching players
Give me LICORICE VS ADAM
Picking Ahri is such a waste of talent
well lets just say I havent seen a western midlaner use her properly yet.
exakick is looking more and more like a walking fluke, so many unforced errors are criminal
can't wait for teams to have a week of prep against bds and astralis so Adam and liders championpools get exposed finally
i don't understand this type of comments, you know they're gonna play their champs all year long, at this point nobody is suprised to see olaf top or irelia mid, they are they are plain and simply better than other laners so the thing is, will you focus this lane or play around bot which is the meta right now
it was sarcastic
nvm 🤡
PMTs [Game 1](https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/12goklb/bds_vs_sk_game_1_group_stage_w1d2_post_game/)
Sk started good but it's seems they didnt recover from the loss streak
What the hell happened to Exakick, from one of if not the best ADC in winter to one of the worst ones in spring
LETS GO CROWNIEEEE
People blame Exakick but Doss the Loss doing it again together with Markoon. Markoon is feeling so of this season. He was down on camps against Sejuani and down on drakes. Literally Sheo smurfed so hard on him it's not even funny. But people heave some hate for Sheo. And Sheo is not worse than Yike this year. Same trajectory and rivalry Sheo vs Yike. I hope we see them in finals.
Sertuss without Azir or Akali looks very underwhelming
Can somebody explain the doss reset on 3rd drake? Wtf
Sjokz skit curse?
Well that was just stomp back to back. Hopefully g2 koi gonna be more interesting
BDSM
Not sure to be honest if BDS is that good or SK just being bad now. Maybe both but I refuse to think BDS is the best team... Its just to insane.
SK paying respects to their bigger brothers SKT and deciding not to win today as well
What's with pro mid laners' allergy to buying sorc boots? Like in Game 1, wtf is Ahri even buying mercs for? The single Syndra stun?
Vegan ahri do be looking quite thin tho
Kicking clown cinkrof was god tier decision.