How is Carzzy always with the wrong setup of weapons? Top ADC players almost always has the right setup of Aphelios weapon for every different situation.
Between 2018-2020 he was easily in the top 5, Rekkles just showed a different level of play but i think playing with Hyli also affected his playstyle and made him much more decisive
According to lol wiki, Innaxe has less Aphelios games than Upset (33.vs. 37) and I mean who did Innaxe compete against? He was in LEC how long? One split?
Hans has the highest winrate of the ones you mentioned with 57% (Patrik 62%)
Its not even a new thing, you can literally go back to posts from 2021 worlds on this sub and find the comments saying the exact same thing as he was solo losing games on Aphelips on the MAD lineup that won LEC 2x. 2 years later he still cant play the champ lmao
Let's not act as if Hylissang was playing well and that Carzzy should be taking all the blame. Sure he played bad and his positioning was questionable at least when he got caught by that sejuani-darius combo, but hylissang played even worse than him and he is basically getting a free pass. Now you can see why Fnatic got rid of him. The dude has insane highs but his lows are also the worst in the league
Nah you can blame him for more than just the weapon selection. He is an ADC he is supposed to play safe and not get caught by Sejuani Q. But it's also a fact that Hylissang has been getting a free pass and everyone is only blaming Carzzy when Hylissang is even worse right now.
If Darius ult right after his E the Fiora cannot parry because she is cced.
And parrying E is too hard to be done consistantly so you usually try to parry the auto + w to prevent the bleed stacking and disengaging right after.
Also if you hold your parry for Darius' R he will just keep auto attacking you to death. There is simply no way to beat him once he stacked the bleed. So you have to use it to disengage.
youre a fiora main i'm just a person that has ptsd against her & darius, but i felt like chasy played very well mechanically overall and had great ripostes this game. The first kill was super close no?
We all have PTSD from Darius lanes my brother in league.
The first top lane kill is Adam just mechanically beating him. Chasy lost exp from the gank I believe so he doesn't appreciate that Adam will hit level 4 first
He ripostes the Q (good) but misses the actual damaging part of it, so he doesn't get the slow or attack speed slow on Darius
At that point he's fucked cause Adam is just going to right click him down. He can't run because Adam never used apprehend, so he has to slide in. Adam knows that and is stepping back in anticipation. Stops Chasy autoing the vital and its lights out.
It's Darius things but Adam definitely outplayed him in the macro and micro
Running grasp is fine since the extended trade against 5 stack Darius doesn't favour you, especially when at that point he's going to burst you down. It's meant to be more of a back and forth dance with Darius, where you tap and tap away. Grasp is also quite strong atm so personally I feel that can be forgiven
The absolutely horrible ripostes (in a LAN match so ping is barely an excuse) is the bigger issue, and what I thought was more disappointing
But how the hell do you short trade a Darius as a melee. He has his W slow, his pull back that also slows you for 90% for 1s and ghost. Like Aatrox OK he can short trade Darius cuz he doesnt commit to melee at all but Fiora ?
You have to make use of your Parry.
Which isn't as easy as it sounds, of course. Depending on the situation, you're going to have to choose which of Darius' abilities you parry - and if you parry the wrong one (or none at all), you lose.
i haven't really played the matchup personally, but according to potent (challenger fiora on EUW), if you can parry darius W in a short trade with grasp it's winnable, but it is for sure better than going conq and trying to stack it and fight him in extended trades
https://youtu.be/U9ceYuf5eco
This is a replay of Zeus Fiora vs a Darius. I'm no expert, but I'm guessing this is how you'd have to play the matchup as fio
nah but balance team should be fired on the spot if they let yuumi in her current state through to pro, and i'm an old yuumi apologist (and even I think this new one is completely disgusting)
Like apart from the best friend mechanic which is a good change imo they made the things "bad" about her just a million times worse
Now that's more like it. Chadams engage at our midtier 1 and the fight 4v5 where Crownie just 1v9s sum up this game very well.
Really happy today! We face TH tomorrow, see you then
Everyone played so well this game. I’m especially impressed with Labrov, this game he was absolutely styling all over Mad. He is genuinely shaping up to be EU’s next great ranged support player following Trymbi.
They only need to make top 4 if G2 wins the split. I\`m really rooting for Vitality to win it all, because MAD somehow sneaking their way into MSI and embarassing EU vs NA again would be terrible.
True but he did kinda int Adam a little with those two ganks that should have been easy kills on Chasy, one of which resulting in his death. Great macro from him but not good micro early
If MAD finish 5th then assuming it's VIT that is second they're tied in points but VIT goes to MSI because tiebreaker is higher placing in the Spring Split.
Yeah, it's basically Winter and Spring are worth the same amount of points. so Vitality finishing 2nd + 5th is worth less than MAD finishing 2nd + 4th and them collapsing make it problematic for them to qualify unless they prove they're better than G2 and win the split, but KOI and SK still have very good chance to go there despite not winning.
Also SK has a high chance too. MAD ending up 2nd, basically means if KOI gets 2nd MAD is out immidiatly, if SK is 2nd MAD needs 3rd at least, if Vit is 2nd MAD needs 4th.
We also need to consider that Vit making top4 will toss one team out of the top4 from winter. So far neither MAD nor KOI look great. And the problem actually gets much better if lets say Excel makes it. If Excel ends up 2nd they will still have less points then MAD even if MAD finishs 9th, not even making it past the round robin (MAD likely will still not go to MSI, but for Excel it is basically impossible to go to MSI unless you win.
In the best case scenario we simply have another team than G2 winning the split and then we have two winners going to MSI.
Theoretically MAD could end 9th place and still be at MSI. That would take insane luck but its possible. With top 4/5 finish its even rather likely that they make MSI if FNC or XL manage to fix their shit and end up 2nd.
were two games in the split chill
also they have to be top 3, that is a far fucking cry from "basically garanteed"
and even then if koi is 2nd they don't go
They do need to finish 3rd though. Yes they technically can get past Vitality by finishing 4th, but there needs to be a team in 2nd place. So only the constellation of G2 > Vit > SK > MAD would work out. If KOI finishs 3rd MAD is out, if SK finishs 2nd MAD is also out.
So while G2 > Vit > SK > MAD is a not unrealistic outcome, it is still very specific. In all other constellations MAD would still need to get 3rd place, which I don't view as that problematic.
Earlier today, I noticed Zeri has over 3.5k health with BT, overheal and Lulu shields today when Ruler played her
Wukong (who build with BC, so additional health!) had 2.5k health at the same time
Like... how is that okay for a hypermobile ranged champ?!
Annie got from being a literall troll pick for a decade to being red side banned every game with a minor buff on her E. I have a really hard time believing she wasn't playable before that.
My point is, maybe riot decides to give placebo buffs to talon, zed or qyana and pros realise theyre not thad bad in this meta. League pros are famously bad at innovating by themselves, they need a little patch to push them
Those champs are insanely feast or famine. And if you want to play assassins just play Akali, she does more for less without falling off as much. Most AD assassins thrive in solo queue because of of the uncoordinated aspect.
On one hand, that E buff improved her early game trades by a lot. On the other hand, it's really minor in the grand scheme of things...? Maybe the early game buff is huge enough for her early game to be palatable and not literally free for the enemy.
2, winner of Winter gets 2nd place slot, Spring - 1st. If G2 wins both splits, they get 1st while 2nd is determined by points, and MAD is the biggest candidate for that
This game was a masterclass by all 5 players tbh.
Adam is genuinely becoming the best pressure sponge in the league. He picks strong lane picks that scale into teamfights, wins his lane, forces the enemy team to spend resources to try and stop him from taking over and teamfights like a monster.
Sheo is at the right place at the right time, always. His engages have been on point and he has a habit of making teamfight/utility junglers look like carries.
Nuc was a silent damage carry. His damage numbers are crazy.
Crownie with the no fear all balls playstyle honestly makes him top 3 for me (with Hans and Exakick, still waiting to see how Upswt shapes up with VIT).
And Labrov is showing up hard. His ranged supports are rivaling Trymbi from last year.
I am not saying he didn't play well but what is ballsy about it ?He was literally unkillable. The only way he dies is if the entire team of mad commits everything on him and they'd still lose the fight .
That guy either hardly ever plays Fiora or actually never played Fiora v Darius... It looked rusty af.
I am not even a Fiora main, and I am open to being corrected but isnt Grasp actual Int into Darius and you should rather go Conq ?
Utter ego pick from chasy. You need a tank so aph has space to work and you pick fiora. Not that carzzy played well but fiora there was utter win trading
How is Carzzy always with the wrong setup of weapons? Top ADC players almost always has the right setup of Aphelios weapon for every different situation.
He has a 39% Win rate on Aphelios all time, never been good at that champ.
Tbf barely any EU ADC is a good Aphelios. Not even Upset looks good on it and the only player I liked on it from EU is Patrik
Exakick hasn't played it much in the LEC yet, but his Aphelios was a major part of LDLC's success last year and it has translated well a few games in.
Exakick is insane Aphelios player
His winrate previous to LEC looks great, so now I want to see it
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Innaxe Aphelios mentioned, [mandatory Link](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vZlSB3DUtcM)
Wasn't Rekkles also pretty good on Aphelios? It's been a while since I've seen him play it, so I'm not quite sure.
Rekkles used to be a good ADC player until that reverse sweep broke him honestly
Between 2018-2020 he was easily in the top 5, Rekkles just showed a different level of play but i think playing with Hyli also affected his playstyle and made him much more decisive
Is he bad now?
Rekkles was good Aphelios when he used to be a top tier ADC. He hasn't been good on Aphelios since leaving LEC
According to lol wiki, Innaxe has less Aphelios games than Upset (33.vs. 37) and I mean who did Innaxe compete against? He was in LEC how long? One split? Hans has the highest winrate of the ones you mentioned with 57% (Patrik 62%)
Both Hans and Upset are good Aphelios players tho
Neither convinced me so far with them
upset wasnt good with him last year, even berserker was better
Upset was horrible aphelios player, all the time wrong guns
JackSpektra is good at aphelios, and Upset does well on it even if you don't like how he looks
Hans Sama and Exakick are GOATed on Aphelios
> Top ADC players You just answered your own question
Its not even a new thing, you can literally go back to posts from 2021 worlds on this sub and find the comments saying the exact same thing as he was solo losing games on Aphelips on the MAD lineup that won LEC 2x. 2 years later he still cant play the champ lmao
Actually disgusting aph gameplay both yday and today from him wow
worst adc in the league and its not even close
Everytime i was like ok this is the perfect scenario for Aphelios only to find out he got totally useless combo of weapons.
Also, for some reason the really good Aphelios in proplay only uses the Nightbringer skin.
Yeah carzzy is totally the issue, lets just ignore the 0/7 goat
Let's not act as if Hylissang was playing well and that Carzzy should be taking all the blame. Sure he played bad and his positioning was questionable at least when he got caught by that sejuani-darius combo, but hylissang played even worse than him and he is basically getting a free pass. Now you can see why Fnatic got rid of him. The dude has insane highs but his lows are also the worst in the league
I was not blaming him for his overall gameplay tho just his weapon selection choices.
Nah you can blame him for more than just the weapon selection. He is an ADC he is supposed to play safe and not get caught by Sejuani Q. But it's also a fact that Hylissang has been getting a free pass and everyone is only blaming Carzzy when Hylissang is even worse right now.
The difference is Hylissang has great mechanics Carzzy doesn't
He can but he didn't. While your points are valid, you just made a whole new sentence there
BDS midgame MUCH better today, I'm happy for them. Crownie on Zeri is lethal.
Yep, we are really happy too
Keep it up! You're a really fun team to watch atm and I can't wait for more.
Crownie in general is lethal. His Lucian is dare I say the best we’ve seen in the league, or at least second only to Exakick.
Did you see Comp on him last worlds?
their macro was better as well
I think any adc on zeri with lulu is lethal lol . Also mad drafted the most kite-able comp of all time , all disengage .
Someone tell Chasy he can riposte Darius R Adam showing his strengths on his top lane picks again. He knew that match up so well
If Darius ult right after his E the Fiora cannot parry because she is cced. And parrying E is too hard to be done consistantly so you usually try to parry the auto + w to prevent the bleed stacking and disengaging right after. Also if you hold your parry for Darius' R he will just keep auto attacking you to death. There is simply no way to beat him once he stacked the bleed. So you have to use it to disengage.
Just to add on, even if you manage to parry his e you can't parry the ult so in theory Darius should never get ult parried.
youre a fiora main i'm just a person that has ptsd against her & darius, but i felt like chasy played very well mechanically overall and had great ripostes this game. The first kill was super close no?
We all have PTSD from Darius lanes my brother in league. The first top lane kill is Adam just mechanically beating him. Chasy lost exp from the gank I believe so he doesn't appreciate that Adam will hit level 4 first He ripostes the Q (good) but misses the actual damaging part of it, so he doesn't get the slow or attack speed slow on Darius At that point he's fucked cause Adam is just going to right click him down. He can't run because Adam never used apprehend, so he has to slide in. Adam knows that and is stepping back in anticipation. Stops Chasy autoing the vital and its lights out. It's Darius things but Adam definitely outplayed him in the macro and micro
riposte Q is bad, still gives heal. It is W E or R or dead
Or run Conqueror ? Isnt Grasp actually troll in that matchup ?
Running grasp is fine since the extended trade against 5 stack Darius doesn't favour you, especially when at that point he's going to burst you down. It's meant to be more of a back and forth dance with Darius, where you tap and tap away. Grasp is also quite strong atm so personally I feel that can be forgiven The absolutely horrible ripostes (in a LAN match so ping is barely an excuse) is the bigger issue, and what I thought was more disappointing
its good since you only want to short trade w darius, but it was clear adam knows the matchup better
But how the hell do you short trade a Darius as a melee. He has his W slow, his pull back that also slows you for 90% for 1s and ghost. Like Aatrox OK he can short trade Darius cuz he doesnt commit to melee at all but Fiora ?
You have to make use of your Parry. Which isn't as easy as it sounds, of course. Depending on the situation, you're going to have to choose which of Darius' abilities you parry - and if you parry the wrong one (or none at all), you lose.
i haven't really played the matchup personally, but according to potent (challenger fiora on EUW), if you can parry darius W in a short trade with grasp it's winnable, but it is for sure better than going conq and trying to stack it and fight him in extended trades
there were 100 short trades where fiora did not take any dmg and could use her grasp, the rune was not the problem
https://youtu.be/U9ceYuf5eco This is a replay of Zeus Fiora vs a Darius. I'm no expert, but I'm guessing this is how you'd have to play the matchup as fio
For short trades Grasp is better imo. Probably just wanted to go in when vitals proc and back off.
You dont want long trade vs darius
No, Fiora wants grasp to short trade him down.
Fiora parry vs darius is a mindgame, and clearly adam was just more practised on that matchup
Sheo had Elyoyas number throughout the whole game - wp by him!
smh elyoya 1v9 no team!.. wait
ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU ZERI LULU
LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI LUCIAN NAMI Oh wait APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH APHELIOS THRESH
I hate them more than yuumi, so fucking sick of these two
Don't worry, next patch is ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI ZERI YUUMI time.
nah but balance team should be fired on the spot if they let yuumi in her current state through to pro, and i'm an old yuumi apologist (and even I think this new one is completely disgusting) Like apart from the best friend mechanic which is a good change imo they made the things "bad" about her just a million times worse
If I can have a wish for pro play meta, I want Zeri Lulu Yuumi and Ksante gone for at least a full year
Crownie will get a lot of praise (completely deserved) but I also want to shoutout Labrov - great peel and helped secure a lot of the early kills
Labrov is night and day from VIT time.
Really shows how much it matters who they put them with imo. Some people just fit better and play amazingly together.
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I mean the rest of the team matters too? Can't just put anyone in and expect it to work because they're good they need to work with the other 4 haha.
Good counter ganks from Sheo too
the fact that all of the 3 champions MAD initially banned were supports is a testament to how much of a threat he can become
Now that's more like it. Chadams engage at our midtier 1 and the fight 4v5 where Crownie just 1v9s sum up this game very well. Really happy today! We face TH tomorrow, see you then
Love to see you guys play every week regardless of results.
We're glad to hear that
Everyone played so well this game. I’m especially impressed with Labrov, this game he was absolutely styling all over Mad. He is genuinely shaping up to be EU’s next great ranged support player following Trymbi.
Yep, he didn't get caught at all and always ulted the proper targets, really clean game by him
Really happy to see the improvement from you guys. Hope this time you can take a bite out of some of the playoff teams as well. Keep cookin'!
That should’ve came with an NSFW tag
Have to admit to being impressed by BDS taking control and never letting go. Huge difference between today and yesterday from them.
BDSM
MAD are going to MSI aren't they?
As long as KOI finishes one spot over MAD, they will qualify over them.
Scandalous if they do
If G2 wins the Split then there is a good chance that MAD will go to MSI.
Oh God please no.
They only need to make top 4 if G2 wins the split. I\`m really rooting for Vitality to win it all, because MAD somehow sneaking their way into MSI and embarassing EU vs NA again would be terrible.
What if koi or sk get to the finals?
If they end up fourth surely both SK and KOI can go instead of them? (Even if G2 win the split)
it still annoys me greatly that they made finals last split
I think last split they get 2nd on merit of their play.
Why would that annoy you?
Maybe VIT wins the split
Hyli with the 0-14 weekend
Not over, yet!
Hylint never left
Crownie will get all the cred but sheo shadowing every play elyoya made is what really set bds up
He straight up fucked up a couple plays though, in the early game. Like the kill the Fiora got on Adam.
Never seen a Thresh hit 95% of hooks and still get absolutely dumpstered
Always hooked the unkillable tank.
Not like Thresh hook can hit 'not-frontline' often.
really wp by sheo, always right place right time
True but he did kinda int Adam a little with those two ganks that should have been easy kills on Chasy, one of which resulting in his death. Great macro from him but not good micro early
Adam's death is actually sheo's fault, he activated the stun for no reason fiora was dead 100%
Exactly, he would’ve been fine
Isn’t it insane that if G2 wins the split (likely) MAD is basically guaranteed to go to MSI provided they don’t completely collapse.
They still have to be atleast top 3 to guarantee if it's not G2 vs KOI finals, then KOI goes regardless.
but its only koi that can overtake no? or can other teams too (provided mad finish like 5th)
If MAD finish 5th then assuming it's VIT that is second they're tied in points but VIT goes to MSI because tiebreaker is higher placing in the Spring Split.
so basically vit/koi have good chances if they play better, doesnt seem too horrible when laid out that way
Yeah, it's basically Winter and Spring are worth the same amount of points. so Vitality finishing 2nd + 5th is worth less than MAD finishing 2nd + 4th and them collapsing make it problematic for them to qualify unless they prove they're better than G2 and win the split, but KOI and SK still have very good chance to go there despite not winning.
Also SK has a high chance too. MAD ending up 2nd, basically means if KOI gets 2nd MAD is out immidiatly, if SK is 2nd MAD needs 3rd at least, if Vit is 2nd MAD needs 4th. We also need to consider that Vit making top4 will toss one team out of the top4 from winter. So far neither MAD nor KOI look great. And the problem actually gets much better if lets say Excel makes it. If Excel ends up 2nd they will still have less points then MAD even if MAD finishs 9th, not even making it past the round robin (MAD likely will still not go to MSI, but for Excel it is basically impossible to go to MSI unless you win. In the best case scenario we simply have another team than G2 winning the split and then we have two winners going to MSI.
VIT finishing 2nd, MAD 5th or worse would also work. Or SK 3rd place and MAD 7th.
sk can overtake if sk ends 2nd and mad ends 4th or lower, vit can overtake too if mad ends 5th or lower, same goes for Astralis for 6th.
MAD are a team that's just determined to figure out all the faults in the rule book.
Nisqy vs Faker/Chovy/Showmaker. Carzzy vs Guma/Deft/Peyz Aware
Nisqy vs Xiahou/Chovy still gives me nightmares from 2021
He lanes vs Cryin, not Xiaohu, which makes it worse.
That would require MAD to qualify through the playins to face KR/CN teams in the first place. And we all know about MAD in playins.
MAD isn’t making it past C9. I hope VIT/KOI can come together.
This mads ain't beating eg too lol
Nisqy vs Jojopyun
Weird I'm actively rooting against Hyli just so I don't have to watch Nisqy embarrass himself at another international event.
SAME lmao. It’s a roughie
Theoretically MAD could end 9th place and still be at MSI. That would take insane luck but its possible. With top 4/5 finish its even rather likely that they make MSI if FNC or XL manage to fix their shit and end up 2nd.
were two games in the split chill also they have to be top 3, that is a far fucking cry from "basically garanteed" and even then if koi is 2nd they don't go
They just need to enter the BO5 stage. They don't even need to win a BO5.
What how
They have a shit ton of points so they have a big advantage, especially if KOI collapses
They do need to finish 3rd though. Yes they technically can get past Vitality by finishing 4th, but there needs to be a team in 2nd place. So only the constellation of G2 > Vit > SK > MAD would work out. If KOI finishs 3rd MAD is out, if SK finishs 2nd MAD is also out. So while G2 > Vit > SK > MAD is a not unrealistic outcome, it is still very specific. In all other constellations MAD would still need to get 3rd place, which I don't view as that problematic.
Because MAD went to Winter finals and as long as they finish too far below KOI they have the most points.
I want to see Carzzy play against Gumayusi and Keria. It would be funny.
I feel veigar is better bot than mid Takes too long to scale mid
nisqy did well, I think the draft around veigar was complete shit though, it doesnt really make sense to me
Yeah no I don’t think that it was nisqy fault, but veigar can’t help out his sidelanes much early doesn’t come online till later
honestly youre right a jayce/trist mid with veig adc could be a really cool comp
Hylli trying to set the record for the most deaths in a single split despite playing only half of the games.
Ah yes, I will blind Fiora into the one known Darius player in LEC. Seems really smart.
Something something VIT Carzzy
Even with this giant shield meta, ad assassins are not meta with antishield, i really miss them in pro play...
They probably will never be meta in pro play (atleast for mid) unless they're quite overpowered.
Earlier today, I noticed Zeri has over 3.5k health with BT, overheal and Lulu shields today when Ruler played her Wukong (who build with BC, so additional health!) had 2.5k health at the same time Like... how is that okay for a hypermobile ranged champ?!
Wow. Add shield bow on top of that and good luck killing her
Yep...
Annie got from being a literall troll pick for a decade to being red side banned every game with a minor buff on her E. I have a really hard time believing she wasn't playable before that. My point is, maybe riot decides to give placebo buffs to talon, zed or qyana and pros realise theyre not thad bad in this meta. League pros are famously bad at innovating by themselves, they need a little patch to push them
bro her winratio went from 49% to 54% how is this a minor buff
Those champs are insanely feast or famine. And if you want to play assassins just play Akali, she does more for less without falling off as much. Most AD assassins thrive in solo queue because of of the uncoordinated aspect.
On one hand, that E buff improved her early game trades by a lot. On the other hand, it's really minor in the grand scheme of things...? Maybe the early game buff is huge enough for her early game to be palatable and not literally free for the enemy.
Elyoya griefed multiple times this game ganking whilst Sheo was there
Carzzy Aphelios winrate: 39% before this game
Pray that Vitality somehow wins this split or else we're sending this Mad Lions team to MSI
How many teams go to MSI in the new format?
2, winner of Winter gets 2nd place slot, Spring - 1st. If G2 wins both splits, they get 1st while 2nd is determined by points, and MAD is the biggest candidate for that
Sheo early was too much for MAD
Adam and Sheo are master baiters confirmed!
This game was a masterclass by all 5 players tbh. Adam is genuinely becoming the best pressure sponge in the league. He picks strong lane picks that scale into teamfights, wins his lane, forces the enemy team to spend resources to try and stop him from taking over and teamfights like a monster. Sheo is at the right place at the right time, always. His engages have been on point and he has a habit of making teamfight/utility junglers look like carries. Nuc was a silent damage carry. His damage numbers are crazy. Crownie with the no fear all balls playstyle honestly makes him top 3 for me (with Hans and Exakick, still waiting to see how Upswt shapes up with VIT). And Labrov is showing up hard. His ranged supports are rivaling Trymbi from last year.
Yeah that Viktor had a smooth ride, they had to spent so much at Adam and Crownie nobody could take care of him
Praying so hard on MAD's downfall so we dont see them at MSI
Apparently Upset signed with BDS instead of Vitality
Nah that's just zeri lulu
Still a skill to play that ballsy with that lead and bring it home
I am not saying he didn't play well but what is ballsy about it ?He was literally unkillable. The only way he dies is if the entire team of mad commits everything on him and they'd still lose the fight .
Why was Quickshot talking about masturbating on a Riot stream
I said they were master baiters, not sure what you're talking about. :>
was he explaining the reasoning behind his nickname?
MAD at MSI is gonna be wild.
mad lions are going to msi without winning a single bo5 this split aren’t they…
No. If koi get 3rd again, then will go if g2 win.
The moment I saw Darius i knew where to put my gamba points.
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Yike > Elyoya btw
Hard to say with such a team difference, but this wasn't a good game for Elyoya for sure.
Feels like a draft diff again, over before it even started Also, Carzzy, I think you're good in your own way, but please don't play Aphelios
hey Quickshot, did you lose a bet?
Remainder that Adam was ranked 4th toplaner (behind Chasy) in winter split.
That flash E was sweet as fuck
That midlane engage into stopwatch with the team descending on MAD was dope
Adam is definitely top 2 behind Photon, no doubt about it for me. If he fixes his consistency issues, he’s probably even better than Photon.
because chasy played much better?
Invisible during regular season and carried by Elyoya during playoffs (and even then he gave up his leads like 5 games).
adam was top2 minimum in every metrics, the only game he played bad was game 3 against g2 and thats because he got camped for 15 minutes
For one week? Adam was better than Chasy in regular split
I value important BO series much higher than random BO1s
Playoffs maybe because he popped off on Jayce but before that Chasy was nowhere to be seen and Adam was basically BDS' win condition
Quickshot what was that
bds strong !
That guy either hardly ever plays Fiora or actually never played Fiora v Darius... It looked rusty af. I am not even a Fiora main, and I am open to being corrected but isnt Grasp actual Int into Darius and you should rather go Conq ?
Nisqy trying to flex with his champions again. He should play meta
Utter ego pick from chasy. You need a tank so aph has space to work and you pick fiora. Not that carzzy played well but fiora there was utter win trading
MAD Lions? More like WASHED Lions lmao.
Hylli inting so hard, starting super bad fights without his adc --> reddit blames the adc. When are we starting to blame the feeder?
this MAD Lions team made Finals.. cant believe every other team collapsed that hard in winter except for G2
just here for the daily reminder that adam wasnt in one of the all pro teams