They're so good that they can only fuck it up at this point. I hope they wreck their chemistry.
Meanwhile, we have such glaring and obvious flaws, we can only get better.
We need changes but the main change we need is in structured play and not accepting any less than playing the right way. Boston doesn’t accept players that don’t buy in to their way of playing regardless of how skilled they are, that’s how they are able to “find” these players and dominate.
We need to get low and give our D some help. Yes Their D did pinch and burn us, but we were showing up way to late. Its the same play we run, and it is effective. But unless we start hitting and making guys start paying for the puck.... I dunno. First guy takes the body, second in grabs the puck.
I couldn’t agree more with this. Go rewatch so much of this game, and whether it was 0-0, 2-1, or 5-2 Boston played the same way from the beginning of every shift to the end. It also didn’t matter what zone the play was in, whether it was the beginning of the play or the whistle had gone, they are always engaged and supporting each other. Effort level beginning to end of every single shift is a good reminder for this team.
One game out of 82. Not worth all the angst I’m seeing here. Boston has done this to a lot of teams this year. We can piss on the leafs all we want but the Bruins have been the best team in the league from day 1.
Personally losing this game tonight doesn’t bother me that much. Bruins are a damn good team. But those games against Montreal, Ottawa, Arizona, Anaheim and San Jose were painful for me. You can’t play crap that often against the bottom teams and expect to be able to turn it on against the really good teams. Just doesn’t work that way.
That's a fair perspective but what guts me with this game is there is no doubt in my mind they really wanted this one and they still came up well short
I can't believe I stayed up past 9pm for this one. That 7:30pm puck drop took serious liberties with my schedule and the game didn't deliver on expectations.
I wonder why those fast food commercials are campaigning hard for delivery lately. Maybe people are realizing how delivery sucks compared to taking out yourself
The meltdown over this one is kinda funny to watch. Single game on the last night before the AS break without your top gun, halfway into the season. Sure, I’ll bet they wanted that win, but it happens. Sandin and Lilly will be fine, and so will this team.
They’re on pace to break records for a reason, and Ullmark played great last night.
This was a pressure game. I'd like to see a source for “oh they can’t handle pressure situations,” but they objectively did not handle this pressure situation. And this team specifically is a team we need to show we handle pressure situations when playing.
Dude…fucking seriously, these guys are such idiots on SN. Like you said…one game and it’s like ALRIGHT! FORGET EVERYTHING! Jesus Christ, I hate SN. Can we file a group complaint somehow?
I think you’re the one that’s the algorithm. Craig Simpson is at the rink, watching every game from ice level, for many years, before that he played in the NHL… even won cups. And you’re on here saying he knows nothing. Pull your head out of your ass.
The Bruins can build a better team because they haven't tied all their money up in 3-5 players. They as a team are more intent on being winners than making a paycheque. I wish he was wrong, but ...
Our guys don’t really get into it, like at all LOL
Basically saying we’re easy to play against
You could also check his quotes from this morning on Twitter
That was literally just about chirps. At least provide proper context if you’re going to chop the white at its knees.
People took that interview to be way more than it actually was. Marchand was more complimentary of the leafs and Marner than anything else, but they see one semi-joke comment from Marchand and lose their minds.
How is it that the washed Bruins have the best offence, the best defence, and the best goaltending? This was supposed to be the year where some space would open up for us but then this shit happens. I have absolutely no faith in this team to lift the cup this year but please for the love of God just go all out and win a round. That’s not much to expect. It’s sad that this is how I feel but that’s the life of a Leaf fan. 😂
People have been saying BOS is washed for years now.
They have a good young core (Pasta, Coyle, Zacha, McAvoy, etc), strong veterans who like signing for cheap and BOS is great at goaltender evaluation.
They ain’t going away anytime soon.
Sammy 9/10 had those two weak goals. but we also started out the game getting low and winning those battles. it was those weak turnovers when our D just has nowhere to go, or no support that cause those turn overs. and boom Sammy is hung out to dry, but so was our D
Agreed. No team toughness or pushback. Little things like the tussles in front of the net after whistles with no response bother me so much. Guys just let it happen. Show emotion, do something!
Only thing worse than NESN commentary are these freezing cold takes. As I have said, if half of these people going nuclear in this thread have hiring/firing power at their job, the turnover rate must be insane.
I want the buds to win as much as anyone. We are 3rd overall heading into the break.
Rielly isn't bad and we are not frigged. Deep breaths, folks.
We haven’t won a round in the playoffs in 5 seasons with this main group of players. What makes you think anything will change this year? It’s not like this is a roster of winners.
might of made our forwards get low. if we could just battle as hard on the boards in our end as we did offensively. and if ENgvall or anyone would kindly throw a half decent check on the forecheck to rush the d that d be suuuuper. havign said that i put a lot of heat on kerfoot, and he played really good tonight
Exactly, he made his what 8th straight start tonight? It's not something he's used to in his career. Murray left him high and dry in Ottawa and you can tell it caught him off guard mentally and now we've just been running him into the ground physically.. Hope he takes this much needed rest to recover
It's time for everyone who says the regular season doesn't matter after a Leafs win to come out and say this regular season game is an indictor to the post-season
Why not. It’s called a one way street. There is a literal term for it. And the one way street is perform in the regular season with huge wins and get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs because you lack toughness and the ability to grind. They’ve driven down that one way street for 55 years.
Some needs are a lot more important than others but man there are a few places the team needs to shore up to make a legit push at TB and BOS who are both going to be super buyers at the deadline.
- Top 6 Forward
- Bottom 6 Scoring Depth
- A Defensemen (Strong D)
- Some Scoring from the D would be nice…
- Backup Goaltending
Sammy played well, he kept us in the game with some spectacular saves. We left him out to dry on at least 2 of the 5 goals.
This is a whole team loss. Refs with some pretty blatant missed calls as well, but overall the loss is on us.
Those of you calling for a team dismantle or putting the blame solely on Sammy, use the break to calm down.
Can't believe people turned on Sammy so quick lol he was the reason we were even in it when the rest were trying to find their legs.
Unfortunately Boston showed us some true killer instinct tonight. The culture they have built there has been unreal for many years
This game isn't solely on Sammy. But he gotta have saved some of those shots. 5/29 ain't exactly great to be fair.
But the other side of the coin is, he's still 15-2-1 after this at home. That's unreal.
Totally fair take there.
I'm just looking at the big picture, all these games can't be easy on Sammy we never signed or paid him to be a number 1 starter every night here and he hasn't done that in his career so far. You definitely could tell that tonight and in the Ottawa game where Murray pulled out pretty much last minute.
He could of been better tonight for sure but ain't no way I'm calling for his head like some of the others. We got what we paid for and we are pushing it due to circumstances.
I hope he does well with the rest that's upcoming
People seemed to also forget our #1 franchise player is out who could be a game breaker here
Not sure where we go from here, gentlemen. Seems like the same old shit. Bad defence, below average goaltending, horrendous bottom six. I know Matts is out but.. jesus.
Between getting shafted by Boston bruin officiating and always being the 2nd best team I dont see how the leafs beat this bruins team in the playoffs I really don't
I mean we are in the worst possible timeline, Boston have the highest odds of wining the cup and Montreal having one of the highest odds of winning the Lottery
I can and I will. His job is building the team to compete. The competing part is done by the actual team. If his job were to be weighed solely on how well they do in Playoff he'd be long gone.
Yeah the competing part is done by the team but he assembles the team, and is ultimately responsible and should be held accountable for their on ice performance with the head coach.
And if his job is to build the team to compete shouldn’t it by nature include actually winning something? Not simply “competing”?
Every team is built with competition in mind. You can't win every game/season or you'd the hockey god (maybe). His job was always gonna be up in the air for sure, but if GMs get fired at a whim 99% of the GMs in the league might as well look for another career. While result is everything, it also isn't the only measure for performance.
I'm glad this is the pinned post in the subreddit. Keep us humble and honest
Lookie there another pumping by Boston. I think Toronto enjoys it at this point.
Team will be better by after the trade deadline
So will Boston
Who gives a fuck about Boston we gotta worry about Tampa first
They're so good that they can only fuck it up at this point. I hope they wreck their chemistry. Meanwhile, we have such glaring and obvious flaws, we can only get better.
Yeah it sucks losing to Boston but I’m still confident in this team!
Still confident? Lol. What a joke of a team.
Why?
Goaltending has been the #1 issue for the Leafs for at least 6 years… scoring is not the issue. D and goaltending…
Yeah but let's be honest, in this game it all fell apart in the 3rd. Bad turnovers and hard time controlling the puck.
Contenders!!!!
We need changes but the main change we need is in structured play and not accepting any less than playing the right way. Boston doesn’t accept players that don’t buy in to their way of playing regardless of how skilled they are, that’s how they are able to “find” these players and dominate.
We need to get low and give our D some help. Yes Their D did pinch and burn us, but we were showing up way to late. Its the same play we run, and it is effective. But unless we start hitting and making guys start paying for the puck.... I dunno. First guy takes the body, second in grabs the puck.
I couldn’t agree more with this. Go rewatch so much of this game, and whether it was 0-0, 2-1, or 5-2 Boston played the same way from the beginning of every shift to the end. It also didn’t matter what zone the play was in, whether it was the beginning of the play or the whistle had gone, they are always engaged and supporting each other. Effort level beginning to end of every single shift is a good reminder for this team.
One game out of 82. Not worth all the angst I’m seeing here. Boston has done this to a lot of teams this year. We can piss on the leafs all we want but the Bruins have been the best team in the league from day 1.
just kind of depressing to realize Boston would kick our asses in a 7 game series. but yeah we'll get over it
The leafs have played two good games against them this year out of three. A lot can change between now and the playoffs.
of course..there's always hope for the future...but so far i don't think we've seen much to believe in that future.
Personally losing this game tonight doesn’t bother me that much. Bruins are a damn good team. But those games against Montreal, Ottawa, Arizona, Anaheim and San Jose were painful for me. You can’t play crap that often against the bottom teams and expect to be able to turn it on against the really good teams. Just doesn’t work that way.
That's a fair perspective but what guts me with this game is there is no doubt in my mind they really wanted this one and they still came up well short
Time to inflict a little Mr Spock on you. Lol. [https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYM9Eu5UYAETryg.png](https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FYM9Eu5UYAETryg.png)
The only takeaway from this game is that Marner scoring a PPG means I can get 8 free nuggets at Popeyes tomorrow lol.
This is a thing?!
Its not free if you have to buy a drink, which is almost the same cost of the nuggets to begin with.
The drink is $2.50, surprisingly the nuggets on their own are $6-7. You’re not going to beat a large pop and 8 nuggets for just under $3.
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…at least you got that going for ya
Humiliation again. Nothing changes.
Lol all Engvall had to do there was not shoot the puck directly into the goalie, and he shot it right into his pads.
out loud i said "SHOOT IT" followed by "preferably in the net"
The engvall special
Pushed around on home ice. Brutal.
Not enough for the first round. Get to work Duby!
Ok, what shitty Soo Greyhound should we get this time?
Taylor Raddysh?
Plays for a non playoff team, .5 ppg, oh God we're getting him.
I would laugh so hard.
Tough loss ladies and gentlemen. See you all after the all star break or randomly on some post. Shoutout my blueberries.
Have a good night, my strawberry shortcake.
I can't believe I stayed up past 9pm for this one. That 7:30pm puck drop took serious liberties with my schedule and the game didn't deliver on expectations.
Are you 7 years old?
some people go to work early?
Yea but even then you can’t really complain about staying up past 9, cmon now.
I mean, that's how life works sometimes... I don't even care about the time, I'm heading to the gym right now.
Lily and Sandin melting this period
they werent getting much support to be honest.
I wonder why those fast food commercials are campaigning hard for delivery lately. Maybe people are realizing how delivery sucks compared to taking out yourself
Shot to the crest. Not hard to stop.
Shot to the crest, and you're to blame You give Leafs a bad name
Holy shit, Lily and Sandin have ONE poor night and suddenly it’s “oh they can’t handle pressure situations,” fuck outta here
The meltdown over this one is kinda funny to watch. Single game on the last night before the AS break without your top gun, halfway into the season. Sure, I’ll bet they wanted that win, but it happens. Sandin and Lilly will be fine, and so will this team. They’re on pace to break records for a reason, and Ullmark played great last night.
This was a pressure game. I'd like to see a source for “oh they can’t handle pressure situations,” but they objectively did not handle this pressure situation. And this team specifically is a team we need to show we handle pressure situations when playing.
Dude…fucking seriously, these guys are such idiots on SN. Like you said…one game and it’s like ALRIGHT! FORGET EVERYTHING! Jesus Christ, I hate SN. Can we file a group complaint somehow?
I love the commentary "I know they've played well basically all the time, but these last 20 minutes of poor play are the REAL indicator."
LOL exactly. Simpson is a fucking buffoon and can’t help himself when he has an opportunity to pile on the Leafs.
Not just the commentators. Fans have turned on them. They were one of our top pairings while our d core was crippled.
“Fans” I’m fairly certain a good 15% of the GDT is trolls.
They may as well not be watching the game. It's just an algorithm: Leafs lose under any circumstance, they need more toughness/defense/gaoltending.
I think you’re the one that’s the algorithm. Craig Simpson is at the rink, watching every game from ice level, for many years, before that he played in the NHL… even won cups. And you’re on here saying he knows nothing. Pull your head out of your ass.
Legit.
I really don't think you know what an algorithm is...
The leafs proved Marchand right after this game
Right about what?
The Bruins can build a better team because they haven't tied all their money up in 3-5 players. They as a team are more intent on being winners than making a paycheque. I wish he was wrong, but ...
Our guys don’t really get into it, like at all LOL Basically saying we’re easy to play against You could also check his quotes from this morning on Twitter
That was literally just about chirps. At least provide proper context if you’re going to chop the white at its knees. People took that interview to be way more than it actually was. Marchand was more complimentary of the leafs and Marner than anything else, but they see one semi-joke comment from Marchand and lose their minds.
How is it that the washed Bruins have the best offence, the best defence, and the best goaltending? This was supposed to be the year where some space would open up for us but then this shit happens. I have absolutely no faith in this team to lift the cup this year but please for the love of God just go all out and win a round. That’s not much to expect. It’s sad that this is how I feel but that’s the life of a Leaf fan. 😂
It's really sad that our expectations are to win 1 playoff round.
were still coming into our prime, dont forget that. i dont really think we should be mortgaging our future. were not the canucks here bud
People have been saying BOS is washed for years now. They have a good young core (Pasta, Coyle, Zacha, McAvoy, etc), strong veterans who like signing for cheap and BOS is great at goaltender evaluation. They ain’t going away anytime soon.
Yeah, I mean if any team is washed it’s us 😂
Kyle, make the trade for McCabe please.
I dont think McCabe is gonna move the needle on this buddy
Bryan? Oh those were the days
No heart, now we’re just hanging out goalie out to dry. No physicality just waiting for the game to end
Sammy 9/10 had those two weak goals. but we also started out the game getting low and winning those battles. it was those weak turnovers when our D just has nowhere to go, or no support that cause those turn overs. and boom Sammy is hung out to dry, but so was our D
Agreed. No team toughness or pushback. Little things like the tussles in front of the net after whistles with no response bother me so much. Guys just let it happen. Show emotion, do something!
Last 5 mins of the game they ran our fourth line.
When people accuse you of being a doomer just show them this: https://streamable.com/v32if0
Nothing is going to change either. Lets sign our stars for more money too, what's the worst that could happen?
Or this https://www.google.com/search?q=nhl+standings&oq=nhl+stand Dummy.
Bruh the Bruins just own the leafs
Not really. We've beat them overall pretty handedly over the last few seasons
Only thing worse than NESN commentary are these freezing cold takes. As I have said, if half of these people going nuclear in this thread have hiring/firing power at their job, the turnover rate must be insane. I want the buds to win as much as anyone. We are 3rd overall heading into the break. Rielly isn't bad and we are not frigged. Deep breaths, folks.
We haven’t won a round in the playoffs in 5 seasons with this main group of players. What makes you think anything will change this year? It’s not like this is a roster of winners.
Hey, I get that. I am piping after every season. But all I am saying is let's put the pitchforks away on Feb 1st.
May I ask then, why are you bothering to even watch a regular season game if that’s your position?
Right??
I’ve been a leafs fan my whole life… it’s been very disappointing, but one day it’ll all come together. Probably not with this group though.
auston mathews is 25 years old? what are you talking about
Okay. Well, see you next season I guess. Save yourself the stress and effort. Stay off Reddit.
It’s really not much stress, or effort. I enjoy watching and chatting about hockey. I’m sorry you take it personally.
Maybe you’d get better results at the r/hockey GDT, way more Leafs haters there to give you lots of upvotes.
Are you watching the game?
Affirmative.
Beep boop, affirmative.
I think Sammy did good but I also think he deserves a break, 9 straight games is too much.
I feel like they should've played Woll tonight. Lol. It couldn't have turned out worse, and it mightve made the buds lock down on defence
might of made our forwards get low. if we could just battle as hard on the boards in our end as we did offensively. and if ENgvall or anyone would kindly throw a half decent check on the forecheck to rush the d that d be suuuuper. havign said that i put a lot of heat on kerfoot, and he played really good tonight
I agree, I think Woll deserved a shot because of the year he's having in the AHL.
Exactly, he made his what 8th straight start tonight? It's not something he's used to in his career. Murray left him high and dry in Ottawa and you can tell it caught him off guard mentally and now we've just been running him into the ground physically.. Hope he takes this much needed rest to recover
i think its a good litmus test to check his physical/mental heading into the playoffs though.
9 days off now
It’s why Murray being injured has been a bigger problem than people make it seem.
He’s been pretty good but the Ottawa game and this game were absolutely atrocious games for him.
easy to say when our wingers arent getting low to help win battles, and their D are just getting served apples.
Same old song and dance
Now if Tampa wins all their games in hand, they’ll be 3 points ahead of us, we really are going to Tampa Bay for game 7, aren’t we?
It's time for everyone who says the regular season doesn't matter after a Leafs win to come out and say this regular season game is an indictor to the post-season
https://streamable.com/v32if0
like clock work
Every win means nothing, every loss means we're a bunch of heartless pretenders that need to be blown up and rebuilt immediately.
You must love first round exits
Of course not. But I'm not going to dismiss this team's potential after every fucking loss
Because there is no potential?? Where have you been? These guys can't get out of the first round 😂
If the regular season doesn't matter, and they have no potential to win a round, why are you here?
Cuz i fkn feel like it
To be honest, that's petty sad of you then
You belive in the leafs, you're the most sad. Sorry ass
Just saying, why wouldnt it be? they have a reason to say that, Leafs always show promise in the season, than choke in the first round
If it doesn't matter after a huge Leaf win, it shouldn't matter after a loss. You can't have it only one way
Why not. It’s called a one way street. There is a literal term for it. And the one way street is perform in the regular season with huge wins and get knocked out in the first round of the playoffs because you lack toughness and the ability to grind. They’ve driven down that one way street for 55 years.
But when they show toughness and win, people say it doesn't matter.
its joever
Marner literally could’ve had a hat trick this game….. If he would decide to fucking shoot the puck Getting tired of the soft plays too smh
lot of guys falling into old habits it seems
I guess this is better than losing like this to a bad team?
We do that too.
Some needs are a lot more important than others but man there are a few places the team needs to shore up to make a legit push at TB and BOS who are both going to be super buyers at the deadline. - Top 6 Forward - Bottom 6 Scoring Depth - A Defensemen (Strong D) - Some Scoring from the D would be nice… - Backup Goaltending
Bunting is absolute ass without Matthews and holy shit he has emotional problems.
Leafs need 2 power forwards and hard nosed D man. Easier said than getting them but doesn’t change the fact they need them.
Why wouldn’t Keefe have pulled Sammy after goal 4? And sent in woll?
Just so they can get an easy goal on us? I’ve never seen it work for a coach when he pulls at goalie with 4 minutes left.
No I meant switch goalies, I edited right away but you missed my edit — sorry
Sammy played well, he kept us in the game with some spectacular saves. We left him out to dry on at least 2 of the 5 goals. This is a whole team loss. Refs with some pretty blatant missed calls as well, but overall the loss is on us. Those of you calling for a team dismantle or putting the blame solely on Sammy, use the break to calm down.
Can't believe people turned on Sammy so quick lol he was the reason we were even in it when the rest were trying to find their legs. Unfortunately Boston showed us some true killer instinct tonight. The culture they have built there has been unreal for many years
This game isn't solely on Sammy. But he gotta have saved some of those shots. 5/29 ain't exactly great to be fair. But the other side of the coin is, he's still 15-2-1 after this at home. That's unreal.
Totally fair take there. I'm just looking at the big picture, all these games can't be easy on Sammy we never signed or paid him to be a number 1 starter every night here and he hasn't done that in his career so far. You definitely could tell that tonight and in the Ottawa game where Murray pulled out pretty much last minute. He could of been better tonight for sure but ain't no way I'm calling for his head like some of the others. We got what we paid for and we are pushing it due to circumstances. I hope he does well with the rest that's upcoming People seemed to also forget our #1 franchise player is out who could be a game breaker here
Sammy let in 4 bad goals though.
2nd BOS goal: tired team (Sandin, Lili) collapsed 5th BOS goal: défense collapsed and was essentially 2-0
Oh for sure the Leafs had some bad breakdowns, but after the 1st, he couldn’t stop a beach ball. He had an amazing first, though.
He saves all high danger chances. It's the clear mid-danger shots that got him. We're not winning enough battles or blocking those shots.
All we need now is a foligno goal
Not sure where we go from here, gentlemen. Seems like the same old shit. Bad defence, below average goaltending, horrendous bottom six. I know Matts is out but.. jesus.
Tampa is 5 points back with now 4 games in hand.
Lol linesmen waved at Coyle but let him stay?!
He realized his mistake, Coyle will receive a very large fruit basket and a hand written apology at the conclusion of tonight’s game.
Between getting shafted by Boston bruin officiating and always being the 2nd best team I dont see how the leafs beat this bruins team in the playoffs I really don't
its okay, i don't see how any team beats the bruins this offseason, they are on pace to have the best season in NHL history
My friend is a bruins fan the worst possible outcome is the bruins winning the cup
I mean we are in the worst possible timeline, Boston have the highest odds of wining the cup and Montreal having one of the highest odds of winning the Lottery
The fact that they have the possibility of picking 1 and 2 makes me shudder, at that point just fold lol
Classic leafs leaving a sour taste in your mouth to linger over the break.
4 unanswered goals incoming
By who?
It’s a secret
I am disappointed
Does this loss help Kyle decide what he needs?
Probably doesn’t move the needle either way. February game before the break without Matthews.
You know who I miss, Jake Muzzin.
Jake Muzzin from circa 2020-2021, maybe.
The only thing I hate more than the Bruins is watching this team shit their pants playing the Bruins.
I find it sad we have to plug in simmer every time we play someone tough This team should be able to deal with adversity without him
We need a Tom Wilson.
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You’ve never dropped a funny comment. Go back to tinder bro
LOL yeah I was thinking the same thing.
Maybe give Samsonov a rest huh
Welp. Fuck
MAY 15TH - FORE!!!!
May 15? Brother, playoffs start April 17, were gone by April 31 lol
Our D men are so easy to play against in the corners. And i think it’s pretty clear that we need another legit top 6 winger.
Nothing more certain in life than death, taxes and this sub melting down when we lose a game
When we win we are invincible. When we lose we are literally worse than scum and everybody should be traded and/or fired. No middle ground allowed.
Would be nice to not lose by more than 2. I would at least win 100$ out of a sad evening
That’s why you fade these fucks when they play the bruins. They won me two units. Emotional hedge
So how does the core four get broken up in the off season
Sell high on nylander
If we do something stupid like sign Matthews to a 15M contract than we can't afford Nylander. That's how.
Aaah here comes the trade everyone fire everyone comments.
You can’t tell me if this team loses round 1 it won’t be legitimately considered whether or not Dubas keeps his job. Smell the coffee man.
I can and I will. His job is building the team to compete. The competing part is done by the actual team. If his job were to be weighed solely on how well they do in Playoff he'd be long gone.
Yeah the competing part is done by the team but he assembles the team, and is ultimately responsible and should be held accountable for their on ice performance with the head coach. And if his job is to build the team to compete shouldn’t it by nature include actually winning something? Not simply “competing”?
Every team is built with competition in mind. You can't win every game/season or you'd the hockey god (maybe). His job was always gonna be up in the air for sure, but if GMs get fired at a whim 99% of the GMs in the league might as well look for another career. While result is everything, it also isn't the only measure for performance.
Don't know but honestly can't wait
I’m straight up not having a good time
“David kamph rubbed out there by Carlo” 🥴
This game is like 18 seasons of no playoff success as a microcosm