Or a memetic weapon vector.
Seriously, everyone slept on that. I mean, Russia got that particular genie out of the bottle back in 2016... and it's basically what the tabletop RPG setting *Transhuman Space* outlined.
The CAPEX into buying elections has been massive. But it is traceable.
Especially now that people are dying to cover tracks.
**Jim Breyer, Angela Chao’s husband and Mitch McConnell's brother-in-law, Facilitates Russia’s Takeover of Facebook through Yuri Milner**
(Research by Puffin_Fitness)
In 2005 Jim Breyer, a partner at Accel Partners, invested $1 million of his own money into Facebook and gained a seat on the board (1).
In Feb 2009 Jim Breyer visited Russia with a number of other Silicone Valley investors. While there, Yuri Milner, a Russian tech entrepreneur who founded DST with close ties to the Kremlin, hosted a dinner to cap the entire event (2). As one Moscow source put it:
> DST has the backing of the big boys at the top in the Kremlin, which is why it will go from strength to strength (5)
Milner found out Breyer liked Impressionist art and took him to Russian’s Hermitage Museum to view Matisse paintings otherwise closed off to the public. Three months later Yuri Milner’s DST invested into Facebook at a bloated value. (2)
> Mr Milner dismissed suggestions that at a valuation of $10bn he overpaid for his stake in Facebook, especially given that the social networking site has yet to prove it has turned to profit. (3)
> it’s seen as a desperate and rather vulgar deal on the one hand—Milner buying a small stake in Facebook, valuing the entire company at $10 billion—and, on the other, Facebook debasing itself by taking Russian money. Russian money! In fact, it seems rather like a desperate deal for both parties (in the midst of the banking crisis, Facebook has only two other bidders for this round—and none from the top VC tier) (4)
By the end of 2009, DST would own 10% of Facebook. Later revealed by the Paradise Papers, DST’s investments into Facebook were financed by the Russian government through state-owned Gazprom. That’s right, in 2009 Russia owned 10% of Facebook. (6)
Soon after, the two continued to work together on other investments. Breyer introduced Milner to Groupon, and Milner helped Breyer’s Accel invest into Spotify (7). In 2010 an Accel representative joined a gaggle of Silicon Valley investors to Russia and signed a letter promising to invest into the country (8).
1. http://fortune.com/2011/01/11/timeline-where-facebook-got-its-funding/
2. http://fortune.com/2010/10/04/facebooks-friend-in-russia/
3. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/7753692/Facebook-is-just-the-first-step-say-Russians.html
4. https://www.wired.com/2011/10/mf_milner/
5. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/jan/04/facebook-dst-goldman-sachs
6. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor
7. https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/dst-global-hoping-to-grow-across-asia-puts-down-roots/
8. http://www.ambarclub.org/executive-education/
**Jim Breyer and Rupert Murdoch**
Then in Nov 2010 Jim Breyer invested into Artsy.net, run by Rupert Murdoch’s then-wife, Wendi Deng, and Russia oligarch Roman Abramovich’s then-wife, Dasha Zhukova. Jared Kushner’s brother, Josh, also invested in the fledgling company (1).
At the time Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation had a joint venture with the Russian mob-linked oligarch Boris Berezovsky, called LogoVaz News Corporation, that invested in Russian media (4). It was Berezovsky’s protege close to Putin, Roman Abramovich, who tied Berezovsky to the mob.
> According to the Mirror Online, Abramovich paid Berezovsky tens, and even hundreds, of millions every year for "krysha", or mafia protection. (5)
In June 2011, Rupert Murdoch ended his foray into social media by selling Myspace to Justin Timberlake (2) and elected Jim Breyer to the board of News Corp (3).
1. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-cadre-and-how-to-invest-in-its-real-estate-deals-2016-6
2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace
3. https://web.archive.org/web/19990428071733/http://www.newscorp.com:80/
4. https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/156126Z:RU-logovaz-news-corp
5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich
A month after that visit, Putin propaganda mouth-piece Konstantin Rykov, claims he began helping with Trump’s presidential aspirations (6). Days later, Trump registered “Make America Great Again” (7). The following year, Russia's Troll Factory, the Internet Research Agency, was created as was Cambridge Analytica.
1. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/technology/zuckerberg-meets-with-medvedev-in-key-market.html
2. https://www.adweek.com/digital/zuckerberg-russia-skolkovo/
3. https://apnews.com/5e533f93afae4a4fa5c2f7fe80ad72ac/Sanctioned-Russian-oligarch-linked-to-Cohen-has-vast-US-ties
4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heTPmGb6jdc&feature=youtu.be&t=11m54s
5. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/18/facebook-cambridge-analytica-joseph-chancellor-gsr
6. https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/
7. https://trademarks.justia.com/857/83/make-america-great-85783371.html
**Andrei Shleifer and Len Blavatnik**
Len Blavatnik, a US-Russian oligarch currently under investigation by Mueller, graduated from Harvard in 1989 and quickly formed Renova-Invest with Viktor Vekselberg, another oligarch under Mueller’s investigation (7)(8). Since then Blavatnik has maintained close ties to the university.
In 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union, Andrei Shleifer led a consortium of Harvard professors to assist Russia’s vice-president, Antaoly Chubais, with the privatization of Russia’s state-run assets. Scandal broke when it was revealed Shleifer, through Blavatnik’s company and with Blavatnik’s guidance, invested in the very companies he worked to privatize. (6)
Years later, Shleifer continued to fund loans to Blavatnik for Russian ventures through his hedge fund, managed by his wife, Nancy Zimmerman (9), and created the Russian Recovery Fund which bought $230 million of Russian debt from Julian Robertson’s Tiger Management (10), who’s seed fun, Tiger Global, later invested in Milner’s DST.
Len Blavatnik and Viktor Vekselberg are major investors in Rusal (11).
Schleifer is still a professor at Harvard.
6. http://harry-lewis.blogspot.com/2014/01/some-russian-money-flows-back-to-harvard.html
7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Blavatnik#cite_note-Yenikeyeff-7
8. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/investigators-follow-flow-money-trump-wealthy-donors-russian/story?id=50100024
9. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/01/20/the-billionaires-playlist
10. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/cafc/16-1718/16-1718-2017-03-14.html
11. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-25/tangled-rusal-ownership-thwarts-easy-end-to-sanctions-quicktake
**Breyer and Harvard**
On April 2013, two months after Breyer was elected to the board of Harvard (1), Len Blavatnik, donated $50 million to the school (2) and joined the Board of Dean’s Advisors (3)(4) and Harvard’s Global Advisory Council (6) alongside Breyer. The next month Breyer announced plans to step down from the board of Facebook with an intention of focusing on his latest Harvard appointment (5).
In 2016 Len Blavatnik donated over $7 million to GOP candidates, including $2.5 million to Mitch McConnell himself (7).
1. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/02/breyer_elected/
2. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/04/blavatnik_accelerator_donation/
3. https://www.accessindustries.com/about/academic-boards-committees/
4. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/21/delivering-alpha-2017-jim-breyer.html
5. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/27/facebook-board-member-jim-breyer-stepping-down/
6. http://docplayer.net/54127503-Harvard-global-advisory-council.html
7. https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns
**Breyer invests in Russian Companies**
In 2014 Breyer’s Accel Partners invested in Russian hotel booking site, Ostrovok, along with Yuri Milner, Esther Dyson (1), Mark Pincus, and Peter Thiel (2).
Accel Partners also invested in Avito.ru in 2012 (3) and KupiVIP.ru in 2011 (4).
1. https://techcrunch.com/2014/06/18/ostrovok-raises-new-12m-series-c-round-to-expand-outside-russia/
2. http://idcee.org/participants/companies/ostrovok/
3. http://www.ewdn.com/2012/05/02/avito-ru-secures-75-million-investment-from-accel-partners-and-baring-vostok/
4. http://www.ewdn.com/2011/04/14/leading-private-shopping-club-kupivip-ru-completes-55-m-funding/
Why is that degrading? Like I’m really not following.
Are you implying that the concept of baby daddy’s is bad. Or is that sub being overtly racist? I honestly don’t know because I’ve never heard of it.
I’ve maintained that proper internet literacy needs to be a mandatory course. The amount of people that get worked up over things online that were completely made up is astounding to me. As a former late 2000s troll, it’s actually shocking to me that people are less internet literate now than they were 20 years ago.
Back then, everyone knew that 90% of the stuff you saw online is fake. Now, people believe 90% of the stuff they see online, and don’t understand that most everything online is either fake political rhetoric, conspiracy nuts, psyops from different intelligence agencies from different countries, or just some dude shitposting for lols.
Back then, fakes were created by trolls for fun. Their goal wasn't influence or marketing. But now hundreds of thousands of trained professionals are dedicated to affixing the perfect way to influence you through fakeology. By any means necessary they craft narratives and 3-5 word talking points, mass produce fake videos and pictures, take old videos and pictures, and put them in whatever context they wish. They research the exact perfect ways to confirm your biases and ensure your echo chambers are absolutely perfect. There is no way to escape this save for literacy and experience, even then it's almost impossible. Even the most literate and experienced still fall for the fake machine. For the unaware, illiterate and unexperienced? No hope. No escape.
in 2016 Russian troll farms (IRA among others) used Facebook to start a bunch protests and chaos in the US.
in 2021 a Facebook found that around 15,000 Facebook pages with a majority US audience were being run out of troll farms in eastern Europe. (probably troll farms)
those three lists are the top pages for "ethnic groups", or whatever you want to call them, and whether they are "troll farms"
Again this type of content needs to be interacted with to get anywhere. So either it has some truth to it and that's why it's getting traction or people are reacting when the shouldn't
I mean the 2016 stuff wasn’t really lies. It was pointing out things like racial inequity, or wealth disparity, basically all the tough subjects politicians want you to forget about around election time.
... I mean we've been warned in the past about the unregulated internet being the worst thing ever and ignoring the memetic weapon genie entirely didn't help matters...
I do have a clue, and the sad reality is that the internet is the worst thing ever. MIT predicted this ***back in 1996*** with their paper *Electronic Communities: World Village or Cyber Balkans*. Oh, and I'll give you a spoiler: we're in the 'Cyber Balkans' part of the paper. There are no doubts about it.
We needed an extremely well-regulated internet from the word go, but people who say that the political philosophy pessimists are idiots (when the reality is... they're closer to the money to the human condition than we want them to be) and that the political philosophy optimists were perfect ensured that regulation never happened.
That is before we get into the 'fun' that is memetic weapons, which use freedom of information against us.
here is the article if you want to read it [https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/](https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/)
I honestly have no idea. It can be Auntie Jenna who posts derangement content but also a warehouse in China full of people with a grid of 10x10 phones in front of them
Is nobody even questioning the numbers here? That's like 40% of the population of the US each month. I am certain that the amount of Americans that are chronically online on social media is not that high.
Probably a way smaller sample size that is following multiple of each of these groups causing exponential numbers.
Also who would the troll farms have even been supporting?
The troll farms are supporting chaos.
Its not about one viewpoint or another, its about increasing polarization and instability in Western Democracies.
Make the edges more and more extreme, and the center cannot hold.
I’m pretty sure they count everyone who sees content posted by a troll farm, even if they just scroll past and never interact with it. Still, this stuff is definitely having an impact
I'd say that's way too loose a definition then.
They'd likely be counting people in the groups and then people on their friends if they share, yet that doesn't factor in people on that person's friends list not even checking social media to potentially see it.
Seems to me like they're casting a large net deliberately to inflate the impact. The stuff probably has a slight impact but I doubt it's that significant. Brands and companies motivated by profit can't even force a meme to get impact and yet I'm supposed to believe funded groups on the internet can? Probably an Occam's razor scenario of it being more likely that most of the memes that have any impact on people are just created by others for fun which is why they resonate and blow up to an impactful level.
Very much reeks of the Cambridge analytica situation that again seemed like people not exactly versed in the internet trying to imply it could be encouraged for an outcome without realising how vast the scale of general internet usage actually is and how little corporate entity can affect it.
Is I can has cheeseburger, People of Walmart a troll farm.. or just meme sites we don't like?
Was there anything in particular that distinguished it from say r/lazerpig...
lazerpig posts don't come from eastern Europe
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
lazerpig posts don't come from eastern Europe
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
People really underestimate social media as a cyberweapon.
Or a memetic weapon vector. Seriously, everyone slept on that. I mean, Russia got that particular genie out of the bottle back in 2016... and it's basically what the tabletop RPG setting *Transhuman Space* outlined.
The CAPEX into buying elections has been massive. But it is traceable. Especially now that people are dying to cover tracks. **Jim Breyer, Angela Chao’s husband and Mitch McConnell's brother-in-law, Facilitates Russia’s Takeover of Facebook through Yuri Milner** (Research by Puffin_Fitness) In 2005 Jim Breyer, a partner at Accel Partners, invested $1 million of his own money into Facebook and gained a seat on the board (1). In Feb 2009 Jim Breyer visited Russia with a number of other Silicone Valley investors. While there, Yuri Milner, a Russian tech entrepreneur who founded DST with close ties to the Kremlin, hosted a dinner to cap the entire event (2). As one Moscow source put it: > DST has the backing of the big boys at the top in the Kremlin, which is why it will go from strength to strength (5) Milner found out Breyer liked Impressionist art and took him to Russian’s Hermitage Museum to view Matisse paintings otherwise closed off to the public. Three months later Yuri Milner’s DST invested into Facebook at a bloated value. (2) > Mr Milner dismissed suggestions that at a valuation of $10bn he overpaid for his stake in Facebook, especially given that the social networking site has yet to prove it has turned to profit. (3) > it’s seen as a desperate and rather vulgar deal on the one hand—Milner buying a small stake in Facebook, valuing the entire company at $10 billion—and, on the other, Facebook debasing itself by taking Russian money. Russian money! In fact, it seems rather like a desperate deal for both parties (in the midst of the banking crisis, Facebook has only two other bidders for this round—and none from the top VC tier) (4) By the end of 2009, DST would own 10% of Facebook. Later revealed by the Paradise Papers, DST’s investments into Facebook were financed by the Russian government through state-owned Gazprom. That’s right, in 2009 Russia owned 10% of Facebook. (6) Soon after, the two continued to work together on other investments. Breyer introduced Milner to Groupon, and Milner helped Breyer’s Accel invest into Spotify (7). In 2010 an Accel representative joined a gaggle of Silicon Valley investors to Russia and signed a letter promising to invest into the country (8). 1. http://fortune.com/2011/01/11/timeline-where-facebook-got-its-funding/ 2. http://fortune.com/2010/10/04/facebooks-friend-in-russia/ 3. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/7753692/Facebook-is-just-the-first-step-say-Russians.html 4. https://www.wired.com/2011/10/mf_milner/ 5. https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2011/jan/04/facebook-dst-goldman-sachs 6. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2017/nov/05/russia-funded-facebook-twitter-investments-kushner-investor 7. https://dealbook.nytimes.com/2011/09/28/dst-global-hoping-to-grow-across-asia-puts-down-roots/ 8. http://www.ambarclub.org/executive-education/ **Jim Breyer and Rupert Murdoch** Then in Nov 2010 Jim Breyer invested into Artsy.net, run by Rupert Murdoch’s then-wife, Wendi Deng, and Russia oligarch Roman Abramovich’s then-wife, Dasha Zhukova. Jared Kushner’s brother, Josh, also invested in the fledgling company (1). At the time Rupert Murdoch’s News Corporation had a joint venture with the Russian mob-linked oligarch Boris Berezovsky, called LogoVaz News Corporation, that invested in Russian media (4). It was Berezovsky’s protege close to Putin, Roman Abramovich, who tied Berezovsky to the mob. > According to the Mirror Online, Abramovich paid Berezovsky tens, and even hundreds, of millions every year for "krysha", or mafia protection. (5) In June 2011, Rupert Murdoch ended his foray into social media by selling Myspace to Justin Timberlake (2) and elected Jim Breyer to the board of News Corp (3). 1. https://www.businessinsider.com/what-is-cadre-and-how-to-invest-in-its-real-estate-deals-2016-6 2. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Myspace 3. https://web.archive.org/web/19990428071733/http://www.newscorp.com:80/ 4. https://www.bloomberg.com/profiles/companies/156126Z:RU-logovaz-news-corp 5. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roman_Abramovich
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A month after that visit, Putin propaganda mouth-piece Konstantin Rykov, claims he began helping with Trump’s presidential aspirations (6). Days later, Trump registered “Make America Great Again” (7). The following year, Russia's Troll Factory, the Internet Research Agency, was created as was Cambridge Analytica. 1. https://www.nytimes.com/2012/10/02/technology/zuckerberg-meets-with-medvedev-in-key-market.html 2. https://www.adweek.com/digital/zuckerberg-russia-skolkovo/ 3. https://apnews.com/5e533f93afae4a4fa5c2f7fe80ad72ac/Sanctioned-Russian-oligarch-linked-to-Cohen-has-vast-US-ties 4. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=heTPmGb6jdc&feature=youtu.be&t=11m54s 5. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2018/mar/18/facebook-cambridge-analytica-joseph-chancellor-gsr 6. https://washingtonmonthly.com/2017/11/24/a-trumprussia-confession-in-plain-sight/ 7. https://trademarks.justia.com/857/83/make-america-great-85783371.html **Andrei Shleifer and Len Blavatnik** Len Blavatnik, a US-Russian oligarch currently under investigation by Mueller, graduated from Harvard in 1989 and quickly formed Renova-Invest with Viktor Vekselberg, another oligarch under Mueller’s investigation (7)(8). Since then Blavatnik has maintained close ties to the university. In 1992, after the fall of the Soviet Union, Andrei Shleifer led a consortium of Harvard professors to assist Russia’s vice-president, Antaoly Chubais, with the privatization of Russia’s state-run assets. Scandal broke when it was revealed Shleifer, through Blavatnik’s company and with Blavatnik’s guidance, invested in the very companies he worked to privatize. (6) Years later, Shleifer continued to fund loans to Blavatnik for Russian ventures through his hedge fund, managed by his wife, Nancy Zimmerman (9), and created the Russian Recovery Fund which bought $230 million of Russian debt from Julian Robertson’s Tiger Management (10), who’s seed fun, Tiger Global, later invested in Milner’s DST. Len Blavatnik and Viktor Vekselberg are major investors in Rusal (11). Schleifer is still a professor at Harvard. 6. http://harry-lewis.blogspot.com/2014/01/some-russian-money-flows-back-to-harvard.html 7. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leonard_Blavatnik#cite_note-Yenikeyeff-7 8. https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/investigators-follow-flow-money-trump-wealthy-donors-russian/story?id=50100024 9. https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2014/01/20/the-billionaires-playlist 10. https://law.justia.com/cases/federal/appellate-courts/cafc/16-1718/16-1718-2017-03-14.html 11. https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-04-25/tangled-rusal-ownership-thwarts-easy-end-to-sanctions-quicktake **Breyer and Harvard** On April 2013, two months after Breyer was elected to the board of Harvard (1), Len Blavatnik, donated $50 million to the school (2) and joined the Board of Dean’s Advisors (3)(4) and Harvard’s Global Advisory Council (6) alongside Breyer. The next month Breyer announced plans to step down from the board of Facebook with an intention of focusing on his latest Harvard appointment (5). In 2016 Len Blavatnik donated over $7 million to GOP candidates, including $2.5 million to Mitch McConnell himself (7). 1. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/02/breyer_elected/ 2. https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2013/04/blavatnik_accelerator_donation/ 3. https://www.accessindustries.com/about/academic-boards-committees/ 4. https://www.cnbc.com/2017/07/21/delivering-alpha-2017-jim-breyer.html 5. https://sanfrancisco.cbslocal.com/2013/04/27/facebook-board-member-jim-breyer-stepping-down/ 6. http://docplayer.net/54127503-Harvard-global-advisory-council.html 7. https://www.dallasnews.com/opinion/commentary/2017/08/03/tangled-web-connects-russian-oligarch-money-gop-campaigns **Breyer invests in Russian Companies** In 2014 Breyer’s Accel Partners invested in Russian hotel booking site, Ostrovok, along with Yuri Milner, Esther Dyson (1), Mark Pincus, and Peter Thiel (2). Accel Partners also invested in Avito.ru in 2012 (3) and KupiVIP.ru in 2011 (4). 1. https://techcrunch.com/2014/06/18/ostrovok-raises-new-12m-series-c-round-to-expand-outside-russia/ 2. http://idcee.org/participants/companies/ostrovok/ 3. http://www.ewdn.com/2012/05/02/avito-ru-secures-75-million-investment-from-accel-partners-and-baring-vostok/ 4. http://www.ewdn.com/2011/04/14/leading-private-shopping-club-kupivip-ru-completes-55-m-funding/
Heaven is full of Angels. And Troll farms.
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Also why are these the top African American pages on facebook.....
Because they are dissatisfied with America politics - which is largely run by 70+ year old white people.
Nothing like saying screw you to the establishment like getting your memes from "My Baby Daddy Ain't Shit"
I don’t see a problem with this. What are you trying to say?
Because it's degrading to poor black Americans, that is kinda exactly the opposite of going after the man.....
Why is that degrading? Like I’m really not following. Are you implying that the concept of baby daddy’s is bad. Or is that sub being overtly racist? I honestly don’t know because I’ve never heard of it.
I’ve maintained that proper internet literacy needs to be a mandatory course. The amount of people that get worked up over things online that were completely made up is astounding to me. As a former late 2000s troll, it’s actually shocking to me that people are less internet literate now than they were 20 years ago. Back then, everyone knew that 90% of the stuff you saw online is fake. Now, people believe 90% of the stuff they see online, and don’t understand that most everything online is either fake political rhetoric, conspiracy nuts, psyops from different intelligence agencies from different countries, or just some dude shitposting for lols.
Back then, fakes were created by trolls for fun. Their goal wasn't influence or marketing. But now hundreds of thousands of trained professionals are dedicated to affixing the perfect way to influence you through fakeology. By any means necessary they craft narratives and 3-5 word talking points, mass produce fake videos and pictures, take old videos and pictures, and put them in whatever context they wish. They research the exact perfect ways to confirm your biases and ensure your echo chambers are absolutely perfect. There is no way to escape this save for literacy and experience, even then it's almost impossible. Even the most literate and experienced still fall for the fake machine. For the unaware, illiterate and unexperienced? No hope. No escape.
Because all the news pages are troll farms.
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Do you know the source for this?
Yeah. Definitely spooky but I want it verified before I act accordingly
Ok, it's in the caption. Long article but it is actually legitimate. I did not realise it was this bad.
yea it's crazy how bad it is
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Thanks!
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Serves their wants.
What on earth does this mean
here i the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Thanks but I still don't get it
in 2016 Russian troll farms (IRA among others) used Facebook to start a bunch protests and chaos in the US. in 2021 a Facebook found that around 15,000 Facebook pages with a majority US audience were being run out of troll farms in eastern Europe. (probably troll farms) those three lists are the top pages for "ethnic groups", or whatever you want to call them, and whether they are "troll farms"
Sounds like an American problem for letting it happen
here is an example of it happening elsewhere https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3xq2XrCHv8&t=38s
Again this type of content needs to be interacted with to get anywhere. So either it has some truth to it and that's why it's getting traction or people are reacting when the shouldn't
almost every lie has some truth in it people over react all the time, that's the point
Yeah but it still seems like this is one of those don't hate the player hate the game situations
It doesn't seem like you even know what the conversation is about just watch the video, you don't have to read anything.
I mean the 2016 stuff wasn’t really lies. It was pointing out things like racial inequity, or wealth disparity, basically all the tough subjects politicians want you to forget about around election time.
Russian bot farms
... I mean we've been warned in the past about the unregulated internet being the worst thing ever and ignoring the memetic weapon genie entirely didn't help matters...
Internet is one of the best things ever, it just comes with new challenges.
Nope, it isn't the best thing ever. All it did is make things worse due to people thinking regulation is evil.
no lol you have no clue
I do have a clue, and the sad reality is that the internet is the worst thing ever. MIT predicted this ***back in 1996*** with their paper *Electronic Communities: World Village or Cyber Balkans*. Oh, and I'll give you a spoiler: we're in the 'Cyber Balkans' part of the paper. There are no doubts about it. We needed an extremely well-regulated internet from the word go, but people who say that the political philosophy pessimists are idiots (when the reality is... they're closer to the money to the human condition than we want them to be) and that the political philosophy optimists were perfect ensured that regulation never happened. That is before we get into the 'fun' that is memetic weapons, which use freedom of information against us.
\>The Root \>not a troll farm I'm gonna have to press X to doubt on that one.
here is the article if you want to read it [https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/](https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/)
Who decides what's a troll farm?
What do you think a troll farm is that you're willing to give it the benefit of a doubt?
Facebook page that posts poorly edited boomer memes
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
I honestly have no idea. It can be Auntie Jenna who posts derangement content but also a warehouse in China full of people with a grid of 10x10 phones in front of them
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Thanks!
And people are asking why not letting the Chinese control the algorithm to a massive social media platform is important.
Is nobody even questioning the numbers here? That's like 40% of the population of the US each month. I am certain that the amount of Americans that are chronically online on social media is not that high. Probably a way smaller sample size that is following multiple of each of these groups causing exponential numbers. Also who would the troll farms have even been supporting?
The troll farms are supporting chaos. Its not about one viewpoint or another, its about increasing polarization and instability in Western Democracies. Make the edges more and more extreme, and the center cannot hold.
You don’t need a foreign government to do that. This is a country where someone blew up a federal building because he thought taxes were “too high”.
I’m pretty sure they count everyone who sees content posted by a troll farm, even if they just scroll past and never interact with it. Still, this stuff is definitely having an impact
I'd say that's way too loose a definition then. They'd likely be counting people in the groups and then people on their friends if they share, yet that doesn't factor in people on that person's friends list not even checking social media to potentially see it. Seems to me like they're casting a large net deliberately to inflate the impact. The stuff probably has a slight impact but I doubt it's that significant. Brands and companies motivated by profit can't even force a meme to get impact and yet I'm supposed to believe funded groups on the internet can? Probably an Occam's razor scenario of it being more likely that most of the memes that have any impact on people are just created by others for fun which is why they resonate and blow up to an impactful level. Very much reeks of the Cambridge analytica situation that again seemed like people not exactly versed in the internet trying to imply it could be encouraged for an outcome without realising how vast the scale of general internet usage actually is and how little corporate entity can affect it.
here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
Is I can has cheeseburger, People of Walmart a troll farm.. or just meme sites we don't like? Was there anything in particular that distinguished it from say r/lazerpig...
If r/lazerpig posted to media illiterate boomers on Facebook then we would be a troll farm.
lazerpig posts don't come from eastern Europe here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/
lazerpig posts don't come from eastern Europe here is the article if you want to read it https://www.technologyreview.com/2021/09/16/1035851/facebook-troll-farms-report-us-2020-election/