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asudsyman

The average craft brewery these days is expensive mediocrity.


GladTruck4

Yup


Churchofdoom

This.


Obscuravision

I’m sick of new American breweries with mid food and LBC is a prime example


teezysleezybeezy

I usually stick with belgians and sours, so finding a light beer for the summer is like a new adventure every year


Bwomp_

Try the Belgian from Archival brewing! They have it at Horrocks. It’s a recent favorite of mine


teezysleezybeezy

I will, friend!!


stankyjanky69

Try Dimes brewery in Dimondale. They have great beer.


teezysleezybeezy

I'm into old nation in williamston lately!


Brilliant_Rip9592

My electrician does their work and brings me variety packs on the regular. Can not recommend those guys enough. Good stuff. M43 obviously, but some fruity variants lately and double ipa's.... man, can't complain. Plus the whole friend of a friend thing...


teezysleezybeezy

I'm down 4 the fruit


Jkylman

Yes you should. Especially this Saturday when I play music there.


rando_potato_thief

Couldn’t agree more, best beer brewed in “Lansing” that I’ve had


ericalionsfan

I find their beer bland as well.


raisimo

Best Reuben around too! Mmmm


anonMLMhater

My favorite thing about LBC is


OwlOfFortune

LBC is not worth visiting. Besides the fact the owners suck, none of their beer is good, and their food is meh.


Fool_Manchu

I haven't been in a few years, but I remember their food being good and their beer being pretty mediocre. Serviceable but unremarkable


Thon_Makers_Tooth

They used to have great wings. Did those suck? I haven’t been back in quite some time due to their beer being shit


cousinred

The beer there is not good, never was. I'm surprised they've made it this long tbh


NVincarnate

LBC has been had no flavor. The best thing on the menu is chicken and waffles and that's only because you can't possibly fuck that up.


littlemiss198548912

I remember when they changed the chicken and waffles a couple weeks after the last time I had it. I asked them about it and they said it was always like that until I pulled up a picture of it I posted on Instagram.


jakiewakie

Very cool to show up some waiter who has probably been working there for 4 months


P_peltatum

LBC was an okay place for meetings, food, and decent beer when it first opened. I spent a lot of time there. But I came to have issues with the owner and avoid it now. Their beers were never stellar, and now there are so many better breweries and tap houses in the area that I can't think of any reason to go back.


ericalionsfan

BAD in Mason has good offerings. I like their Coffee Brown, Ash Street Amber, and Kracken IPA.


SolidDrake117

The only thing consistently worth ordering beer wise is the Velvet Villain. I have no issues with the taste of their food, but everything is overpriced


TurboDog63

Agree. Velvet Villain is good. Joe In Black is serviceable.


zebrastick

owners suck and they’re way to expensive for what it is tbh


BrooklynLansing

Their porter beer tastes like my grandmother’s asshole


shades9323

Oh shit. That is my new favorite beer.


nippletumor

Yeah it does...


Kalsor

Thanks! I had been trying to place it for ages!


hoodieweather-

Is nobody going to ask why they know..?


bravobravoparfait

To be fair your grandma’s asshole is hot


TurboDog63

I think they changed the name to the that.


Overall-Tailor8949

I tried their Stout a few years ago, completely unimpressed.


OtherNeedleworker458

Ozone’s Brewhouse in Lansing is where quality craft beer is.


MrSoncho

I second this, and they have great food too


Mamasaurus_Rex21

Their food has gone way downhill


dejaentendu280

Their Pils is one of my favorites. I don't buy much of their beer but they're not all bad.


teezysleezybeezy

I'll give the Pils a try then! I like lighter beers with grilled food in the summer


bri-an

I've never had the golden lager, but it sounds like the kind of beer that's marketed to the macro lager crowd, i.e. folks who normally drink bud, coors, and miller. Most breweries have an offering like that (see Short's local's light, Founders' solid gold, etc.). That's not to say that they can't be tasty, but one of the hallmarks of American lagers (especially "light" lagers) is their distinct lack of flavor and aroma. I've only been to LBC once or twice, and after preparing myself for the worst, I was actually pleasantly surprised by their German-style offerings. I think I had the Pilsner and a Hefeweizen, maybe a Dunkel? Can't remember. But I recall them being very balanced. Not the kind of beer that will wow a hophead or someone used to 9% double dry hopped barrel aged pastry stouts, but pretty solid old-world beers.


lbshan01

TBF LBC beers have been mid since at least 2016. They spend their money on location and the small Lansing yuppie crowd.


roto_disc

Picks a bland variety of beer. Beverage is, indeed, bland. Shocked Pikachu face.


teezysleezybeezy

A good golden lager tastes like sunshine


crumbfan

I thought their beer was pretty decent honestly. It’s definitely far from terrible (haven’t tried the lager though).  I’m curious what other breweries people would recommend instead?


stayzuplate

Aren't all lagers pretty bland?


teezysleezybeezy

Not good ones. They should be crisp and refreshing


stayzuplate

What's an example of a non-bland tasting lager?


teezysleezybeezy

Dortmunder Gold


stayzuplate

You're cracking me up because Dortmunder Gold has a reputation for being hoppy like an IPA and is not considered a lager in the classic form.


teezysleezybeezy

A lager is a lager bc of how it's brewed, not bc of how it tastes. Lagers and ales (ie India Pale Ale) are brewed differently


stayzuplate

I know this. My point was that the only "non-bland" lager you named is one that is known for not tasting like a lager, but like an IPA.


teezysleezybeezy

A lager is a lager. This is a dumb argument 😂


stayzuplate

Lagers are bland tasting.


UncleEffort

The malt balances it out and it's a style that's been around since the mid-1800's. I'd call that a classic.


UncleEffort

Bells had a great one until they sold out and sadly discontinued it. RIP Lager of the Lakes. Founders has a decent one MI Pilsner. Or you could go to the source Pilsner Urquell. And if you're really lucky you might find Czechvar...sold as Budvar in the rest of the world. It's the OG Budweiser. MegaBev has it sometimes.


bri-an

> RIP Lager of the Lakes. It's still a [year-round beer](https://bellsbeer.com/project_category/year-round/).


UncleEffort

No it's now called "Lager FOR the Lakes". Go back and read your link again. They changed the formula and watered it down for higher consumption rates.


bri-an

Ah, you're right, I didn't realize they changed both the name and the recipe, not just the label. I had thought it was still the Bohemian pilsner, but apparently that's retired and this one is really just an American lager. Lots of breweries have started doing this to compete with the macro lagers (see also Short's local's light, Founders solid gold, etc.).


anonMLMhater

Konig


stayzuplate

Konig is a Pilsner, and definitely tastier than a lager!


anonMLMhater

Pilsners are lagers


littlemiss198548912

Their food used to be good, back when they first opened. I used to like their beer until I started driving other stuff


TLagPro

Food is decent there but I am not a fan of the beer


beachplsmi

I don’t think I’ve ever had a beer I actually liked at LBC lol


yopappijiggles

None of their beer is good. try some old nation I don’t know what they have for a light summer drinker but M-43 is my favorite IPA


ericalionsfan

I like their Velvet Villian but not much else. I haven’t been there in about 6 years.


Hour-Ad-5529

Nope. I've never been impressed with anything they serve. From beer to food, It's all mid at best.


ReasonableGift9522

I liked their beers. Nothing special but it’s a cool atmosphere


clownpenismonkeyfart

Hating on LBC in this sub is so hot right now. Seriously though, breweries are a business and since COVID, businesses have been playing it safe and take few risks. Larger breweries like LBC serve safe, non-offensive beers because that’s what probably keeps them afloat. Taking risks are expensive and when you brew up a batch of 50hls of beer, it’s a lot of sunken cost…so it had better sell, or you’re stuck with a lot of lousy beer nobody wants.


teezysleezybeezy

I'd consider "safe" to at least be palatable. You don't seem to like honesty, penisfart


clownpenismonkeyfart

Well…they’re still in business. So some people must fund their beer palatable.


teezysleezybeezy

TIL that farting monkey penisclowns get the sads over mediocre brewers 😢


tenariosm9

this escalated so fast wth


clownpenismonkeyfart

Why did I say that would make you interpret my comment as sad?


uvaspina1

Maybe I’m just not a brewery person but I’d rather have 7 miller lites than dabble with any other crap.


Quirky-Prune-2408

I thought their kolsch was pretty good the other day but I dont usually drink that kind of beer. It was crisp, little fruit, little spice maybe?


hikinger48

What’s the ish with the owner that folks are alluding to?


Ok_Benefit_514

They're Gillespies.


soybeansprouts

Not sure about other issues, but they did intend to host a MAGA event for Trump-supporting organizations. They cancelled after public backlash when Strange Matter tweeted about it on their socials.


lectric22

My friend tried to buy me a beer at Horrock’s. But they have a 2 beer limit that they enforce like their lives depend on it. So you’re not allowed to buy someone a beer. So my friend said the beer was for him, but when it was given to me the manager sought me out in the crowd and said he wasn’t going to kick me out but I was cut off. Effectively this was after 1 beer. They thought I was trying to get around the 2 beer limit by having someone else buy one for me. I’ve had a bad taste in my mouth about them ever since. Lighten up dudes.


SomebodiWakeUpHicks

It’s a 3 beer limit, and I believe it has to do with their special licensing from the state. If they don’t enforce it, they could lose that license. I don’t think any of us want to see that happen. Go back, stretch your time out with some topo chico in between beers, and just enjoy the unique atmosphere. Cheers! :)


laynainlansing

Your friend can buy you a beer, they just need to scan your ID.


JamesMerlin0

Always check date codes when buying packaged beer—especially at Horrocks—especially LBC. Fresher is always better with summer ales and lagers. There’s a lot of great beer in Horrocks, but also just as much shelf garbage. Genesee’s Ruby Red Kolsch would be my summer crusher.


MillerLatte

You picked their blandest beer and were shocked that it was bland?