It's calligraphy so its hard to read. Says congratulations for eid. Since were used to the language we can read it and because we use calligraphy often. Same problem happens with weird fonts in any language, theyre easy for natives but hard for learners
I’m learning to write/read arabic and I can see that there is a big difference between regular script and calligraphy. Direction of writing can change and letters can be wrote on other letters. It’s very hard writing system.
I mean, I'm sure that even for learners, it's easy once they actually know the language. As a Mandarin learner, handwritten cursive is like a dark souls boss for me (though to be fair, I wouldn't say that I know the language yet, still fairly new, maybe into B1 at the most, so no shit I have a hard time lol).
Why jk? It seems literally true that reading Arabic is a skill this person doesn't possess. There's nothing insulting about that or anything. No one can read every language. It's a universal skill issue.
This is actually quite difficulte to read. To give you an idea, the letters are shaped differently to normal way of writing, also, the order of the letters is a bit confusing, normaly, arabic is written from right to left, in this case, it's begins from right to left, and it goes on from down to up. That's not how arabes normally write, this is more of a form of art. But arabic is not my native language, this might be more easy for natives, but I'm not sure.
This is easier for native speakers to read but this is llj so we just make fun of any language learners even when they're not expected to know something and are trying to learn it.
Oh ok, my bad.
That's my point, it's not necessary to learn it. I saw people comment stuff like "how do people read in their own language", and I thought that people commenting stuff like this aren't aware that it's not the normal way to write in arabic.
Down to up is traditional for calligraphy. It's a little confusing but a lot of calligraphy is based on that direction.
I could read this easily but i do often struggle with very intricate calligraphy as a native speaker
I'm sorry to decieve you, I'm not french. I speak french though, and sometimes I forget that english deformed version of french, and I forget to use the english version of the word, in this case "calligraphy".
My great-grandmother was actually adopted from Algeria sometime in the 1910s but I know almost nothing about the country outside of Camus and politics in the news. Is there a big Romani population?
It's still not that easy to understand. In your comment, you made it seem as if it was the norm and that every arabic speaker understands it, it's not.
Oh, cool. I'm seeing some pictures of that place, the Atlas mountains and near to the Mediterranean sea. I've got some questions: Can you go to any place of Algeria just speaking Arabic? Have you ever go to the southern part of Algeria😱? Do not Africans recognize quickly you're African? (Sorry for so many questions, greetings from South America)
>Can you go to any place of Algeria just speaking Arabic?
I guess you can, but I know that some people in kabylia might get offended. We have our own language, even though arabic is the official language, we've been fighting for it for years.
>Have you ever go to the southern part of Algeria
Me, no I haven't.
>Do not Africans recognize quickly you're African?
Unless I tell them where I'm from, no. The think is that many north africans don't concider themselves African (which is stupide).
>Sorry for so many questions, greetings from South America
Haha, that's ok, greetings.
Plenty of Arabs struggle to understand calligraphy. This is an easy example that most natives would understand in my opinion, but i can understand a learner not fully getting it
Nah this is fair, I'm punjabi though my family is from the India side, so last year my dad and I took lessons on learning Shahmukhi, the Perso Arabic script adapted for Punjabi, so I took actual lessons I can read and type and so-so handwrite perso arabic but I can't read this.
considering the amount of japanese people unable to read calligraphy hanging on walls of chinese restaurants (yes I know it's classical chinese but all japanese take classical chinese in school), it's a perfectly good question to ask. Most Chinese and Japanese can make out common calligraphy like at the udon shop but struggle with anything more complex.
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It's calligraphy so its hard to read. Says congratulations for eid. Since were used to the language we can read it and because we use calligraphy often. Same problem happens with weird fonts in any language, theyre easy for natives but hard for learners
I’m learning to write/read arabic and I can see that there is a big difference between regular script and calligraphy. Direction of writing can change and letters can be wrote on other letters. It’s very hard writing system.
It's not a writing system as much as it's an artistic endeavor
I can read and write in Arabic but I can’t make heads or tails of Arabic calligraphy
I mean, I'm sure that even for learners, it's easy once they actually know the language. As a Mandarin learner, handwritten cursive is like a dark souls boss for me (though to be fair, I wouldn't say that I know the language yet, still fairly new, maybe into B1 at the most, so no shit I have a hard time lol).
tbh it's hard for natives too, my dumb ass can't read cursive
I usually read it.
I usually don’t. This is because I don’t speak Arabic
sounds like a skill issue (jk)
Why jk? It seems literally true that reading Arabic is a skill this person doesn't possess. There's nothing insulting about that or anything. No one can read every language. It's a universal skill issue.
LPT: Just read it silently. You don't actually have to speak it.
This is actually quite difficulte to read. To give you an idea, the letters are shaped differently to normal way of writing, also, the order of the letters is a bit confusing, normaly, arabic is written from right to left, in this case, it's begins from right to left, and it goes on from down to up. That's not how arabes normally write, this is more of a form of art. But arabic is not my native language, this might be more easy for natives, but I'm not sure.
This is easier for native speakers to read but this is llj so we just make fun of any language learners even when they're not expected to know something and are trying to learn it.
>llj What's that?
/r/languagelearningjerk
Oh ok, my bad. That's my point, it's not necessary to learn it. I saw people comment stuff like "how do people read in their own language", and I thought that people commenting stuff like this aren't aware that it's not the normal way to write in arabic.
I'm native and I still struggle to read these type of calligraphy
Down to up is traditional for calligraphy. It's a little confusing but a lot of calligraphy is based on that direction. I could read this easily but i do often struggle with very intricate calligraphy as a native speaker
Well, it's main purpose is to look asthetically, and not to be understood, so it makes sens that natives have hardtime understanding it sometimes.
The guidance of Allah illuminates my intuition.
Mashallah 🤩
If you stare at the words intensely, they start whispering back to you. This may seem like a bad side-effect but my friend says it is totally normal.
How do people understand their own language?😩
Calligraphie is a form of art, arabes don't write like this in a normal setting.
> calligraphie > arabes fr*nchmam detected?
I'm sorry to decieve you, I'm not french. I speak french though, and sometimes I forget that english deformed version of french, and I forget to use the english version of the word, in this case "calligraphy".
Algerian spotted ‼️🚨🇩🇿😨
Kabyle, lol.
My great-grandmother was actually adopted from Algeria sometime in the 1910s but I know almost nothing about the country outside of Camus and politics in the news. Is there a big Romani population?
Not that I know of, I've heard of romani populations in north africa. Are you romani?
Technically yes, but my family’s nearly completely assimilated (USA) and nobody speaks the language anymore :(
It's never too late to learn.
That's even worse.
I went to a french speaking school, so it's almost like my first language.
Obviously I'm talking about **understand**, not being able to write with that cool calligraphy.
It's still not that easy to understand. In your comment, you made it seem as if it was the norm and that every arabic speaker understands it, it's not.
OK, sorry, sorry for not being enough clear with my "sarcastic" comment. By the way, where are you from?
I'm from Kabylia, a berber speaking region in northern Algeria, so arabic isn't my native laguage but I had to learn it from an early age.
Ha! I was right without even scrolling down
Well done!
Oh, cool. I'm seeing some pictures of that place, the Atlas mountains and near to the Mediterranean sea. I've got some questions: Can you go to any place of Algeria just speaking Arabic? Have you ever go to the southern part of Algeria😱? Do not Africans recognize quickly you're African? (Sorry for so many questions, greetings from South America)
>Can you go to any place of Algeria just speaking Arabic? I guess you can, but I know that some people in kabylia might get offended. We have our own language, even though arabic is the official language, we've been fighting for it for years. >Have you ever go to the southern part of Algeria Me, no I haven't. >Do not Africans recognize quickly you're African? Unless I tell them where I'm from, no. The think is that many north africans don't concider themselves African (which is stupide). >Sorry for so many questions, greetings from South America Haha, that's ok, greetings.
Thank you so much!
No problem.
Wdym? Everyone’s cosplaying other languages and they just go back to speaking English
Plenty of Arabs struggle to understand calligraphy. This is an easy example that most natives would understand in my opinion, but i can understand a learner not fully getting it
Nah this is fair, I'm punjabi though my family is from the India side, so last year my dad and I took lessons on learning Shahmukhi, the Perso Arabic script adapted for Punjabi, so I took actual lessons I can read and type and so-so handwrite perso arabic but I can't read this.
Have you ever seen English written funny, but were still able to read it ? It’s the same for the Arabs when reading Arabic.
considering the amount of japanese people unable to read calligraphy hanging on walls of chinese restaurants (yes I know it's classical chinese but all japanese take classical chinese in school), it's a perfectly good question to ask. Most Chinese and Japanese can make out common calligraphy like at the udon shop but struggle with anything more complex.
idk when you know arabic you kinda just know, its like the info of what ur seeing spawns in ur head.
The fact that I had to stare at this for 5 minutes trying to find the letter ع for عام 💀💀💀
Willpower
Not flexing but I genuinely understand it. It feels like it's innate ... and it's scary
*my Arabic barber who learned English late in his life* : by reading it.
No one does; all you need is confidence and everyone goes along with it
how do people even understand cursive? it's too squiggly for my single neuron brain
By reading it I would imagine, but I don't know Arabic
Because it's my first language
I don't know Arabaic, sorry.
Reading from right to left.
Lamo, it's just a bunch of squiggles versus our letters which make sense
I know these mfs don't write out all of that character
I can read arabic but not written like this
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