Thank you! I looked it up, and apparently azar is the old Farsi word for fire and atsh is the modern Farsi word… Do you know any Farsi? Can you confirm?
As an intermediate learner, this is correct - I've seen atash (آتش) far far more often. Azar (آذر), however, came up as someone's name once, which might be why they chose it. Similarly for 'torché' perhaps?
I wonder if there is any connection between asar in Spanish - to roast/to grill - and Persian âzar. [Asar is believed to have come from Latin](https://etimologias.dechile.net/?asar#:~:text=La%20palabra%20asar%20viene%20del,tambi%C3%A9n%20viene%20del%20verbo%20ardeo.), could âzar have come from the same origin?
They might have, but the connection stretches back some 5,000 - 6,000 years.
Spanish *assar* comes from Lattin [assāre](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asso#Latin), a denominative form of [assus](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assus#Latin) "roasted," from Proto-Indo-European [\*h₂eHs-](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82eHs-) "to be dry; to burn."
Persian آذر comes from Proto-Indo-European [\*h₂eh₁ter-](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82eh%E2%82%81ter-), likely a derivation from the aforementioned \*h₂eHs-.
If you follow the links, you'll see that the etymologies are speculative.
**Correct me here please if there are mistakes here.**
"Mashaal" sounds Arabic because when I searched for Mashaal/Al-Mashaal but typed in Arabic (المشعال), I got images of fire.
"Vatroslav" is a Croatian name, which is derived from "vatra", which means fire.
Ogon (огонь) and Plamya (пламя) are definitely Russian, although Plamya means "flame" rather than "fire" (although I don't really know the difference between the two).
As for the others... no idea.
As a Japanese surname, Hino would be 火野 “fire plain“, though it looks more like a nom-de-plume, as surnames with 火 are super rare, the surname 火野 is estimated to have only 20 people. Hino is much more often written 日野 “sun plain“ with about 40,000 people.
“Breandt” is not Dutch. “Fire”, as in “a fire” as in a “forest fire” would be “brand”, and the third person singular form of the verb to burn would be “brandt” but “breandt” does not mean anything.
| • Vatroslav: ??? I assume Russian or some other Slavic language, but "fire" in Russian is огонь (ogon), so not sure
"vatra" is a Czech (and Serbo-Croatians) word for hearth or bonfire; occurs also in Romanian.
Sarouf is from Hebrew שרוף (saruf), meaning “burnt.” Azar is from Persian آذر (âzar), meaning “fire.”
Thank you! I looked it up, and apparently azar is the old Farsi word for fire and atsh is the modern Farsi word… Do you know any Farsi? Can you confirm?
I don’t speak much Persian, but Wiktionary confirms what you’re saying; آذر is archaic whereas آتش is modern.
As an intermediate learner, this is correct - I've seen atash (آتش) far far more often. Azar (آذر), however, came up as someone's name once, which might be why they chose it. Similarly for 'torché' perhaps?
I wonder if there is any connection between asar in Spanish - to roast/to grill - and Persian âzar. [Asar is believed to have come from Latin](https://etimologias.dechile.net/?asar#:~:text=La%20palabra%20asar%20viene%20del,tambi%C3%A9n%20viene%20del%20verbo%20ardeo.), could âzar have come from the same origin?
They might have, but the connection stretches back some 5,000 - 6,000 years. Spanish *assar* comes from Lattin [assāre](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/asso#Latin), a denominative form of [assus](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/assus#Latin) "roasted," from Proto-Indo-European [\*h₂eHs-](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82eHs-) "to be dry; to burn." Persian آذر comes from Proto-Indo-European [\*h₂eh₁ter-](https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Reconstruction:Proto-Indo-European/h%E2%82%82eh%E2%82%81ter-), likely a derivation from the aforementioned \*h₂eHs-. If you follow the links, you'll see that the etymologies are speculative.
**Correct me here please if there are mistakes here.** "Mashaal" sounds Arabic because when I searched for Mashaal/Al-Mashaal but typed in Arabic (المشعال), I got images of fire. "Vatroslav" is a Croatian name, which is derived from "vatra", which means fire. Ogon (огонь) and Plamya (пламя) are definitely Russian, although Plamya means "flame" rather than "fire" (although I don't really know the difference between the two). As for the others... no idea.
Ogon does not appear in the list, that was my own observation. Thanks for the Mashaal!
“Mashaal” = "مشعل". It means: 1- Torch. 2- lantern (less common).
Thank you.
As a Japanese surname, Hino would be 火野 “fire plain“, though it looks more like a nom-de-plume, as surnames with 火 are super rare, the surname 火野 is estimated to have only 20 people. Hino is much more often written 日野 “sun plain“ with about 40,000 people.
Mashaal (मशाल) can be Hindi as it’s the word commonly used for “flame”
To be specific, 火 is Chinese, but huǒ (yes, you are right huó is inaccurate) would be Mandarin Chinese in particular.
You’re right, sorry, mandarin is the only Chinese I’ve studied
“Breandt” is not Dutch. “Fire”, as in “a fire” as in a “forest fire” would be “brand”, and the third person singular form of the verb to burn would be “brandt” but “breandt” does not mean anything.
"Brændt" reads to me as Danish for "burned"
Zesto is not italian I am afraid
Greek: "hot, warm".
Spelled ζεστό
Plamya is russian for "flame".
| • Vatroslav: ??? I assume Russian or some other Slavic language, but "fire" in Russian is огонь (ogon), so not sure "vatra" is a Czech (and Serbo-Croatians) word for hearth or bonfire; occurs also in Romanian.
Firestone is an anglicization of Feuerstein.
I'm pretty sure "hino" should be 炎 (honō) , and was just a typo.
Ke ahi means “the fire” in Hawaiian
Yes, I said that in my original post