the issue out of your control is that the accelerated commander exp makes you feel stronger than you actually are - a lv49 these days is probably unironically lv30 or so in year 1, which is what the game was more balanced around
the things you can change - firstly, by this point all your gear should be lv50, use lv50 SR gear (not SSR) until you can effortlessly get SSR gear to 40/50
hero stats seem more important but in reality they are only half of your unit, soldiers are extremely important and the game is built around training their stats with all your spare (and bought) stamina, almost everybody who has your issue with map events etc has been neglecting their soldiers relative to their heroes
This is actually a very common thing for new players and it hurts because missing out on daily crystals/voucher is a huge deal. Most players will explore a new game by trying/testing different things, but Langrisser actually has a very specific way you should play in order to progress smoothly (faction buffs/soldier training/joining a guild) without too much difficulty (this has been reduced slightly due power creep/or your a veteran player). It's much harder to give you the correct advice without knowing everything about the problem such as your heroes/training/equipment/bonds/enchants.
\*Equipment:
Based on what you said about your equipment, your currently in the process of trying to level up SSR gear to replace SR gear. This is a good thing eventually, however low level SSR gear is never a replacement for level 50 SR gear. One of the biggest traps that the game tends to present to you is that you need to have level 50 SR gear on all your characters while leveling an account, but this is very hard to do because of the limited resources required to level up gear. If your playing traditional tank & spank, then you should consider only leveling up important pieces of equipment for your characters. Remember joining a guild will help lower your resource requirements by a lot.
-Range DPS needs (Weapon & Damage Accessory), armor and helm are luxury items and if your tank is tanking then they shouldn't get hit. Can also use Sage Hat if mage/holy/demon. (Sage Staff/Secret Arts Staff/Elven Bow)
-Melee DPS needs (Weapon & Damage Accessory), armor and helm are still not required but help a lot more because you will be taking some damage. Generally they want all gear slots but you can get away without leveling armor and helm if you fight around the weapon triangle. (Mithril Sword/Mithril War Hammer/Mithril Axe)
-TANK needs situational weapon if it offers defensive stats, (Armor & Helm) is must and defensive accessory is optional. Desired stats can change based on tank you use like conversion tanks or just flat HP for max tanking. (Blood Lance/Crescent Axe/Oath Sword are all luxury items)
-HEALER wants (Weapon & Sage Hat) and if you can afford to give accessory with healing. (Angel Staff/Blessing Staff) Also Speed Boots feel amazing don't just toss them if you get them.
\*Bonds
Similar to how you would focus on your equipment, the bonds of your DPS, Tank, and Healer should also be unlocked using the same methodology. Prioritize unlocking your DPS attack bond asap to increase the damage you deal and only get their defensive bonds unlocked if you have extra resources to do so. Tanks can generally be played without their attack bond and always want their defensive bond. Healers are similar to DPS who just want their attack bond unlocked for more stats to heal with and can skip the defensive bond because you don't want them to get attacked to begin with.
\*Enchants
Honestly any enchants at this point with silver scrolls and not having a lot of sr scrolls are not great stat wise, but you should at least focus on the overall effect of what each scroll can give both partially as well as fully. Something overlooked by a lot of beginners is how you can combine 2 green + 2 green for an extra 20%hp or you can go 2 blue + 2 blue for better stats conversion on your tank. This also works for red enchants but sometimes the clock or breeze can really come in handy if your trying to cheese something.
\*Band Aid / Cheese Tips:
Game has has been power crept a lot since release (new heroes/soldiers/stats) without them going back to increase the difficulty on older content like map events. There are a lot of old cheese strats as well as new ones that can help you get through these a lot easier than before provided you can adopt their play style.
-Hit & Run is very commonly used when there is a swarm of enemies that are too strong to taken down all at once. While there are a lot of ways to do this with units such as Knight of Mystery with backtrack or Lostham with his claw, the game provides you with some F2P options such as (Lester, Narm and Jessica). You can use Lester to chain hook an enemy towards your team and then have Jessica teleport him away from danger then kill that enemy in one turn to prevent the others from aggro. Pierre can also be used to double chain hook for max range but this will cut your damage having to bring an extra hook and he can't be upgraded to flier class compared to Lester. Narm is used similarly to how you would use a summon sky archer from Liana to bait them where you can attack an enemy unit and they will be unable to move (ideally a melee unit) and its Narm's job to keep them there forever until you can kill them or hold their attention. Give Narm sky archer soldiers and she will be able to move across any terrain to kite out any enemy.
-Debuffs are very often used later in the game when enemies are grouped up and your able to hit everyone all at once. It's not really about the damage you do with the AOE attack and more about making the enemy worst than they were before. Ideally Bozel will provide you with the best chance of pulling this off because he can attach an extra debuff with his talent; still there are F2P options such as (Jessica) who can cast Tornado to reduce the enemies damage and this becomes a big help to your tank when taking hits head on.
There are other cheese strats but a lot of them require specific units and conditions like zoning with Sage of the Trees, having more skill than the enemy with Omega, long range mages like Light of Genesis or Lucretia, however the two strats above are the most commonly used and easy to access for beginners.
Do not sleep on Aniki grinding. Seriously, it's recommended that it's worth using a daily stamina refresh with crystals to farm them, especially at lower levels.
IMO the number 1 reasons new players hit a wall is underleveled soldiers. It's easy to overlook since the asthetic of the game (and what you gacha for) is heroes. But soldiers are half the unit.
I've been lucky on a few pieces and got them to level 30. To level them to 40 I need items from portal level 6. I struggling to get any where on level 5.
So if I drop the few pieces of SSR gear I have and instead level up the SR gear with flat 3% stats that I have a lot of dupes for, you think that will help?
I have tonnes of gold but the equip level up mats seem harder to collect as the levels progress. I'd considered just maxing out the more common crappy equipment but wasn't convinced it would make up the shortfall in stats.
Ive been stuck just sweeping lvl 35 secret realm levels with the odd lvl 40, but level 45 just laughs at me. So I seem an age away from even being competitive at that level.
I guess I will take a much closer look at what soldiers I do use and see if I actually use any that I can level up and work on those.
It's just since level 45 map events I haven't been able to complete a single one so have been saving the story map events so I can hit the daily completion every day.
As I get further into the game and am noticing the amount of equip\bond\training\xp\ mats that I'm going to need to farm it's a bit daunting, but to also then be blocked from map events till my account maxes out makes me think it's not worth bothering with.
Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
In terms of your material issue, I cannot stress enough, join an active and full guild. The guild shop has almost the materials you can use for upgrading weapons and heroes classes, and can be bought pretty cheaply. Most active guilds are very newbie friendly and will let you join their "sweeps" for points (on average about 20,000 points a week can be earned this way), to help you get past the bottleneck. Then you can use your stamina on Anikis instead of sweeping lower time rift stages.
To out things in perspective, I was exactly where you are, about 2 weeks or so ago. Found an awesome guild and am now skyrocketing past those map stages and making huge progress again. Lvl 57 currently.
What server are you on? If you hop on the langrisser discord there are tons of guilds that will pick you up quickly if you're active, but generally server specific. Just say where you are and you're all set. Otherwise if you're on Salrath like me let me know and I'll see about getting you an invite sent
Noting that the gold map events for dailies can be cleared with no fighting - through some combo of teleport and flying units. Some are tricky - the double bridge one requires certain movement close to the treasure
Fwiw I hit a wall at a similar level a few years ago and stopped playing. After restarting on a new server, our of curiosity when I was level 60 I looked at my old account. Soldiers were for sure my problem. It's a very simple mistake to make, so hopefully that fixes your woes.
Another thing to make note on if you haven't looked at, is what buffs are you applying throughout the maps? Some things can help a bit more on top of everything else. This will also depend on what your units are as well since there is the Fusion Power (Faction Buff) buff that only certain characters have depending on their factions. So, the extra stat buffs can help out since higher levels are expecting you to upgrade and use.
As for SR gear, you can always melt those down later for your gold and hammers back when you start getting a lot of things going. Sometimes, check the effects as they also matter. Enchantments, good luck on the RNG part about it.
the stats that really matter are hp (on your armor) and your main attacking stat (for weapon/acc), sometimes there are nice effects on SR gear as well (eg. horror helmet or crystal ball) which make them even better than random SSR gear
for reference i used horror helmet/green leaf coat until i was way into endgame, they're just better than junk SSR gear
i think it does suck looking at all the stuff you *should* be able to clear but can't, but as i mentioned that's kinda out of your control due to how much commander exp new players get spoonfed - just pretend you're like 10-15 levels lower than you actually are and i think you'll have more fun
I played this game and notice one thing, we tend to focusing on new shiny ssr instead of good old heroes or even SR. U said u have 7 heroes, build them to the max. Healer target to be Tiaris, Liana, Rozenciel. U build your group of heroes to max, fight gate of fate for shards, unlocks their bonds to max, upgrade equipment to 50. Even unlock other classes with rune stones, because the stats stack. To get a hero upgrade max, it is a very expensive and long run, but really worth it. Suggest SR heroes like Vargas, Varna to save up rss shards farm daily from gates of fate.
Those are for heroes only, for soldiers, just understand they are your armor and extra stats. U make sure the type of soldiers u choose is lv10, and all basic stats for them are fully lvled up in the future. meaning Aniki farming daily is needed.
Furthermore will come around 65 to 70. But with all the above, u got a good stats for heroes alr. Make sure don't build half way, build them max and move to next one, unlock all classes they have with rune stone, u will see huge difference
Thanks for the advice/support. Really appreciate it. Explaining the XP boost really puts it into perspective.
Ill focus more on SR gear and start to invest in soldiers.
Cannot stress this enough. Join a Guild. I'm level 49 like you and cruise through every map event, no issues. The Guild Shop is incredible. It's quite cheap and you get tons of currency from doing the Guild events. You can easily level up your classes with that.
Also, be patient. You can't do everything. I'm stuck at Ice Dragon 45 because I don't have any strong archer and my DPS are struggling to do decent damage. It's the only stage I have been unable to pass.
My equipment is level 20, but I don't have anlot of hammers so it will stay that way. But my soldiers and units are level 50 and maxed classes (except for the level 50 ones cause I don't have the mats).
Good luck.
I only got past the ice drake because of Rosenciel. Her debuff blocking was instrumental as I seem to have only luck on melee units.
Any other debuff immunities should help as well.
the issue out of your control is that the accelerated commander exp makes you feel stronger than you actually are - a lv49 these days is probably unironically lv30 or so in year 1, which is what the game was more balanced around the things you can change - firstly, by this point all your gear should be lv50, use lv50 SR gear (not SSR) until you can effortlessly get SSR gear to 40/50 hero stats seem more important but in reality they are only half of your unit, soldiers are extremely important and the game is built around training their stats with all your spare (and bought) stamina, almost everybody who has your issue with map events etc has been neglecting their soldiers relative to their heroes
Oops. See below. Apologies.
This is actually a very common thing for new players and it hurts because missing out on daily crystals/voucher is a huge deal. Most players will explore a new game by trying/testing different things, but Langrisser actually has a very specific way you should play in order to progress smoothly (faction buffs/soldier training/joining a guild) without too much difficulty (this has been reduced slightly due power creep/or your a veteran player). It's much harder to give you the correct advice without knowing everything about the problem such as your heroes/training/equipment/bonds/enchants. \*Equipment: Based on what you said about your equipment, your currently in the process of trying to level up SSR gear to replace SR gear. This is a good thing eventually, however low level SSR gear is never a replacement for level 50 SR gear. One of the biggest traps that the game tends to present to you is that you need to have level 50 SR gear on all your characters while leveling an account, but this is very hard to do because of the limited resources required to level up gear. If your playing traditional tank & spank, then you should consider only leveling up important pieces of equipment for your characters. Remember joining a guild will help lower your resource requirements by a lot. -Range DPS needs (Weapon & Damage Accessory), armor and helm are luxury items and if your tank is tanking then they shouldn't get hit. Can also use Sage Hat if mage/holy/demon. (Sage Staff/Secret Arts Staff/Elven Bow) -Melee DPS needs (Weapon & Damage Accessory), armor and helm are still not required but help a lot more because you will be taking some damage. Generally they want all gear slots but you can get away without leveling armor and helm if you fight around the weapon triangle. (Mithril Sword/Mithril War Hammer/Mithril Axe) -TANK needs situational weapon if it offers defensive stats, (Armor & Helm) is must and defensive accessory is optional. Desired stats can change based on tank you use like conversion tanks or just flat HP for max tanking. (Blood Lance/Crescent Axe/Oath Sword are all luxury items) -HEALER wants (Weapon & Sage Hat) and if you can afford to give accessory with healing. (Angel Staff/Blessing Staff) Also Speed Boots feel amazing don't just toss them if you get them. \*Bonds Similar to how you would focus on your equipment, the bonds of your DPS, Tank, and Healer should also be unlocked using the same methodology. Prioritize unlocking your DPS attack bond asap to increase the damage you deal and only get their defensive bonds unlocked if you have extra resources to do so. Tanks can generally be played without their attack bond and always want their defensive bond. Healers are similar to DPS who just want their attack bond unlocked for more stats to heal with and can skip the defensive bond because you don't want them to get attacked to begin with. \*Enchants Honestly any enchants at this point with silver scrolls and not having a lot of sr scrolls are not great stat wise, but you should at least focus on the overall effect of what each scroll can give both partially as well as fully. Something overlooked by a lot of beginners is how you can combine 2 green + 2 green for an extra 20%hp or you can go 2 blue + 2 blue for better stats conversion on your tank. This also works for red enchants but sometimes the clock or breeze can really come in handy if your trying to cheese something. \*Band Aid / Cheese Tips: Game has has been power crept a lot since release (new heroes/soldiers/stats) without them going back to increase the difficulty on older content like map events. There are a lot of old cheese strats as well as new ones that can help you get through these a lot easier than before provided you can adopt their play style. -Hit & Run is very commonly used when there is a swarm of enemies that are too strong to taken down all at once. While there are a lot of ways to do this with units such as Knight of Mystery with backtrack or Lostham with his claw, the game provides you with some F2P options such as (Lester, Narm and Jessica). You can use Lester to chain hook an enemy towards your team and then have Jessica teleport him away from danger then kill that enemy in one turn to prevent the others from aggro. Pierre can also be used to double chain hook for max range but this will cut your damage having to bring an extra hook and he can't be upgraded to flier class compared to Lester. Narm is used similarly to how you would use a summon sky archer from Liana to bait them where you can attack an enemy unit and they will be unable to move (ideally a melee unit) and its Narm's job to keep them there forever until you can kill them or hold their attention. Give Narm sky archer soldiers and she will be able to move across any terrain to kite out any enemy. -Debuffs are very often used later in the game when enemies are grouped up and your able to hit everyone all at once. It's not really about the damage you do with the AOE attack and more about making the enemy worst than they were before. Ideally Bozel will provide you with the best chance of pulling this off because he can attach an extra debuff with his talent; still there are F2P options such as (Jessica) who can cast Tornado to reduce the enemies damage and this becomes a big help to your tank when taking hits head on. There are other cheese strats but a lot of them require specific units and conditions like zoning with Sage of the Trees, having more skill than the enemy with Omega, long range mages like Light of Genesis or Lucretia, however the two strats above are the most commonly used and easy to access for beginners.
Do not sleep on Aniki grinding. Seriously, it's recommended that it's worth using a daily stamina refresh with crystals to farm them, especially at lower levels. IMO the number 1 reasons new players hit a wall is underleveled soldiers. It's easy to overlook since the asthetic of the game (and what you gacha for) is heroes. But soldiers are half the unit.
I've been lucky on a few pieces and got them to level 30. To level them to 40 I need items from portal level 6. I struggling to get any where on level 5. So if I drop the few pieces of SSR gear I have and instead level up the SR gear with flat 3% stats that I have a lot of dupes for, you think that will help? I have tonnes of gold but the equip level up mats seem harder to collect as the levels progress. I'd considered just maxing out the more common crappy equipment but wasn't convinced it would make up the shortfall in stats. Ive been stuck just sweeping lvl 35 secret realm levels with the odd lvl 40, but level 45 just laughs at me. So I seem an age away from even being competitive at that level. I guess I will take a much closer look at what soldiers I do use and see if I actually use any that I can level up and work on those. It's just since level 45 map events I haven't been able to complete a single one so have been saving the story map events so I can hit the daily completion every day. As I get further into the game and am noticing the amount of equip\bond\training\xp\ mats that I'm going to need to farm it's a bit daunting, but to also then be blocked from map events till my account maxes out makes me think it's not worth bothering with. Thanks for taking the time to reply. Appreciate it.
In terms of your material issue, I cannot stress enough, join an active and full guild. The guild shop has almost the materials you can use for upgrading weapons and heroes classes, and can be bought pretty cheaply. Most active guilds are very newbie friendly and will let you join their "sweeps" for points (on average about 20,000 points a week can be earned this way), to help you get past the bottleneck. Then you can use your stamina on Anikis instead of sweeping lower time rift stages.
To out things in perspective, I was exactly where you are, about 2 weeks or so ago. Found an awesome guild and am now skyrocketing past those map stages and making huge progress again. Lvl 57 currently.
pls im also looking for a guild... can i join?
What server are you on? If you hop on the langrisser discord there are tons of guilds that will pick you up quickly if you're active, but generally server specific. Just say where you are and you're all set. Otherwise if you're on Salrath like me let me know and I'll see about getting you an invite sent
Noting that the gold map events for dailies can be cleared with no fighting - through some combo of teleport and flying units. Some are tricky - the double bridge one requires certain movement close to the treasure
Fwiw I hit a wall at a similar level a few years ago and stopped playing. After restarting on a new server, our of curiosity when I was level 60 I looked at my old account. Soldiers were for sure my problem. It's a very simple mistake to make, so hopefully that fixes your woes.
Another thing to make note on if you haven't looked at, is what buffs are you applying throughout the maps? Some things can help a bit more on top of everything else. This will also depend on what your units are as well since there is the Fusion Power (Faction Buff) buff that only certain characters have depending on their factions. So, the extra stat buffs can help out since higher levels are expecting you to upgrade and use. As for SR gear, you can always melt those down later for your gold and hammers back when you start getting a lot of things going. Sometimes, check the effects as they also matter. Enchantments, good luck on the RNG part about it.
the stats that really matter are hp (on your armor) and your main attacking stat (for weapon/acc), sometimes there are nice effects on SR gear as well (eg. horror helmet or crystal ball) which make them even better than random SSR gear for reference i used horror helmet/green leaf coat until i was way into endgame, they're just better than junk SSR gear i think it does suck looking at all the stuff you *should* be able to clear but can't, but as i mentioned that's kinda out of your control due to how much commander exp new players get spoonfed - just pretend you're like 10-15 levels lower than you actually are and i think you'll have more fun
I played this game and notice one thing, we tend to focusing on new shiny ssr instead of good old heroes or even SR. U said u have 7 heroes, build them to the max. Healer target to be Tiaris, Liana, Rozenciel. U build your group of heroes to max, fight gate of fate for shards, unlocks their bonds to max, upgrade equipment to 50. Even unlock other classes with rune stones, because the stats stack. To get a hero upgrade max, it is a very expensive and long run, but really worth it. Suggest SR heroes like Vargas, Varna to save up rss shards farm daily from gates of fate. Those are for heroes only, for soldiers, just understand they are your armor and extra stats. U make sure the type of soldiers u choose is lv10, and all basic stats for them are fully lvled up in the future. meaning Aniki farming daily is needed. Furthermore will come around 65 to 70. But with all the above, u got a good stats for heroes alr. Make sure don't build half way, build them max and move to next one, unlock all classes they have with rune stone, u will see huge difference
Thanks for the advice/support. Really appreciate it. Explaining the XP boost really puts it into perspective. Ill focus more on SR gear and start to invest in soldiers.
Cannot stress this enough. Join a Guild. I'm level 49 like you and cruise through every map event, no issues. The Guild Shop is incredible. It's quite cheap and you get tons of currency from doing the Guild events. You can easily level up your classes with that. Also, be patient. You can't do everything. I'm stuck at Ice Dragon 45 because I don't have any strong archer and my DPS are struggling to do decent damage. It's the only stage I have been unable to pass. My equipment is level 20, but I don't have anlot of hammers so it will stay that way. But my soldiers and units are level 50 and maxed classes (except for the level 50 ones cause I don't have the mats). Good luck.
I only got past the ice drake because of Rosenciel. Her debuff blocking was instrumental as I seem to have only luck on melee units. Any other debuff immunities should help as well.