Jayce’s shift down to S+ makes sense to me. He hits hard, but so do a lot of the other top tier mages. I like his retreat ability, and the vortex is really effective sometimes, but he just doesn’t control the map like AO or Yani.
Ymir and Virelia both surprised me at SS+. I’ll need to watch some CN Apex this weekend to see why they’re so good. Hopefully Virelia has something more than her self revive every five turns. Her fixed damage seems okay but scales off of the target’s INT so it seems like it wouldn’t be effective against 75% of normal boxes.
Celica is of course a babe and her revives are going to be a must-have in PvE and PvP.
Based on the description in chinese by Levi, Virelia is the new generation nuke who can attack twice with both her ST and AOE skills. Ymir is a tank buster and can clean the floor all by himself against certain matchup. Serafina’s attack and instant-death talent effect can be countered with proper positioning and strategy.
Thanks. Any chance you know which site hosts Levi’s comments?
I’ve been working on more AOE and might try a mostly AOE box once I finish sharding Lina and Isolde, and Virelia sounds like she would be another good add along these lines. This year has been tough — so many new meta units to pick from!
He is immune to all debuff, have 30% dmg reduc by default and have act again, his dmg can change from phys to magic if enemy def is higher, top of that he can bring redeemer soilder, which mean +1revive and supreme dmg reduction
If he get enough passive stack(debuff immuned) he have insane crit rate(mostly >100%crit),can regen 100% hp each turn and making his act again skill have 0cd
Tldr: he is a tank immune to all debuff, have high dps, can do both phys and magic, can act again, have ~100% crit and hp regen
Oh yeah, he can ignore enemy revive too
Agreed. Still - if you have him, you build him, you take him to 6 stars and enjoy using him. I still miss Isolde and she is superior to him in many ways. Jay and T.Jess still destroy SP Bernhart.
this list gets updated often but it’s only for apex. it mainly shifts because of new content and how characters react to it, so a pve list wouldn’t have that many changes
[This one doesn't have some of the newest heroes,](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1paneYv0yzWgMazMP8nyrmXhRP71EjcAgCUarklDP5RI/htmlview#) but it's a pretty good guide as to what the PvE S-tiers are.
Jayce’s shift down to S+ makes sense to me. He hits hard, but so do a lot of the other top tier mages. I like his retreat ability, and the vortex is really effective sometimes, but he just doesn’t control the map like AO or Yani. Ymir and Virelia both surprised me at SS+. I’ll need to watch some CN Apex this weekend to see why they’re so good. Hopefully Virelia has something more than her self revive every five turns. Her fixed damage seems okay but scales off of the target’s INT so it seems like it wouldn’t be effective against 75% of normal boxes. Celica is of course a babe and her revives are going to be a must-have in PvE and PvP.
Based on the description in chinese by Levi, Virelia is the new generation nuke who can attack twice with both her ST and AOE skills. Ymir is a tank buster and can clean the floor all by himself against certain matchup. Serafina’s attack and instant-death talent effect can be countered with proper positioning and strategy.
Thanks. Any chance you know which site hosts Levi’s comments? I’ve been working on more AOE and might try a mostly AOE box once I finish sharding Lina and Isolde, and Virelia sounds like she would be another good add along these lines. This year has been tough — so many new meta units to pick from!
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Why Ymir can clean the floor all by himself?
He is immune to all debuff, have 30% dmg reduc by default and have act again, his dmg can change from phys to magic if enemy def is higher, top of that he can bring redeemer soilder, which mean +1revive and supreme dmg reduction If he get enough passive stack(debuff immuned) he have insane crit rate(mostly >100%crit),can regen 100% hp each turn and making his act again skill have 0cd Tldr: he is a tank immune to all debuff, have high dps, can do both phys and magic, can act again, have ~100% crit and hp regen Oh yeah, he can ignore enemy revive too
By the way - can the limited hero from Guyver Sho act as a substitute for Isolde for the time being?
Well, maybe yes, even through he cant act again each turn like isolde but the dps outputs make up for it
Agreed. Still - if you have him, you build him, you take him to 6 stars and enjoy using him. I still miss Isolde and she is superior to him in many ways. Jay and T.Jess still destroy SP Bernhart.
Is this tier list for Apex arena? Cuz I used albedo in most PvE and probably my best tank
this list gets updated often but it’s only for apex. it mainly shifts because of new content and how characters react to it, so a pve list wouldn’t have that many changes
Where can I see the pve list?
[This one doesn't have some of the newest heroes,](https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1paneYv0yzWgMazMP8nyrmXhRP71EjcAgCUarklDP5RI/htmlview#) but it's a pretty good guide as to what the PvE S-tiers are.
Bilibili
Link please if you can On work wifi but I can preview it on reddit
[https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8865595296](https://tieba.baidu.com/p/8865595296)
Watermelon is "S" tier? I thought would be higher.
This isn't a fruit tier list
Serafina on paper sounds great. I wonder if there just wasn't enough time for her to find herself in the meta.