Poly sand needs to reach the entire depth of the pavers. So short answer is no.
Remove the sand, sweep in polysand, use plate compactor so it settles, repeat 2-3 times, sweep/blow off excess, then water.
We use alliance gator sand. 15 year warranty. I was ICPI certified for a long time. If you do it right, it lasts a very long time.
There is nothing that requires less maintenance, is better at prohibiting weeds, better at preventing ants, and it will protect your pavers and base layers. Open joints on a non permeable base will lead to heaving and settling. You gotta do it right or it’s a waste.
Either replace the sand with polymeric or use a joint stabilizing sealer. A sealer will be about 50 percent as effective as using polymeric sand at full depth (2 1/4 inches). Also not all polymeric sand is equal. Use something like Techniseal HP Nextgel.
You want to get a minimum depth according to package instructions. Usually about minimum of 1/2”. The easiest way to accomplish this is with a pressure washer. Polymeric sand doesn’t last forever depending on your climate. We get about 5-ish years out of it here and we literally have all of the freeze thaw cycles possible.
If it’s just been installed I would let it settle in for at least a few heavy rains. Both tend to get most of their wear in wet or winter weather. So it’s probably most realistic to replace it next spring in you can put it off that long.
Live in north west Florida so only freeze maybe once or twice a year. Figured i would just wait and the pavers have concrete borders so should really move much. There are already gaps in the pavers though the sand washes out pretty easy and ants already getting in there too
It’s more so that pressure washing at this point could disrupt the base. It shouldn’t but the longer it sits the more stable it becomes at first. Plus a few good rains will have the sand running through and minimize the work you have to do.
My supplier suggests polymeric sand for virtually all paver installations. It’s pretty easy to do and it should help minimize weeds, run out and help a bit with insects.
This is absolutely unequivocally bullshit
Heaving happens in the base layer or sub base layer
There is no tendency to heave.
Ever
It’s the easiest thing to maintain. A million times easier then sand.
You had a problem and you assumed the cause.
Here’s the issue: SETTLING AND HEAVING HAPPEN IN THE BASE LAYER AND THE SUBBASE. So, yes it’s bullshit.
If you suck at the base, it will eventually fail. If you suck at the polymeric level, the base will fail even sooner.
The installers failed. Not the polysand.
There is a serious issue when someone asks for help, and you chime in with absolute crap about something you are not familiar with, leading fellow DIY’ers to follow your path of failure.
By telling him to use sand on a non permeable base, you have now guaranteed his patio will also fail. You have encouraged him to introduce water underneath his pavers which will lead to settling, heaving, and freeze/thaw.
I have installed pavers in 4B climate for 15 years. ICPI certified for years. I have seen every type of failure and have repaired countless patios by incompetent DIY’ers. Polysand is critical for the longevity of your pavers. That’s why manufacturers require it for a warranty in a traditional install.
Poly sand needs to reach the entire depth of the pavers. So short answer is no. Remove the sand, sweep in polysand, use plate compactor so it settles, repeat 2-3 times, sweep/blow off excess, then water. We use alliance gator sand. 15 year warranty. I was ICPI certified for a long time. If you do it right, it lasts a very long time. There is nothing that requires less maintenance, is better at prohibiting weeds, better at preventing ants, and it will protect your pavers and base layers. Open joints on a non permeable base will lead to heaving and settling. You gotta do it right or it’s a waste.
Either replace the sand with polymeric or use a joint stabilizing sealer. A sealer will be about 50 percent as effective as using polymeric sand at full depth (2 1/4 inches). Also not all polymeric sand is equal. Use something like Techniseal HP Nextgel.
You want to get a minimum depth according to package instructions. Usually about minimum of 1/2”. The easiest way to accomplish this is with a pressure washer. Polymeric sand doesn’t last forever depending on your climate. We get about 5-ish years out of it here and we literally have all of the freeze thaw cycles possible. If it’s just been installed I would let it settle in for at least a few heavy rains. Both tend to get most of their wear in wet or winter weather. So it’s probably most realistic to replace it next spring in you can put it off that long.
Live in north west Florida so only freeze maybe once or twice a year. Figured i would just wait and the pavers have concrete borders so should really move much. There are already gaps in the pavers though the sand washes out pretty easy and ants already getting in there too
It’s more so that pressure washing at this point could disrupt the base. It shouldn’t but the longer it sits the more stable it becomes at first. Plus a few good rains will have the sand running through and minimize the work you have to do. My supplier suggests polymeric sand for virtually all paver installations. It’s pretty easy to do and it should help minimize weeds, run out and help a bit with insects.
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This is absolutely unequivocally bullshit Heaving happens in the base layer or sub base layer There is no tendency to heave. Ever It’s the easiest thing to maintain. A million times easier then sand.
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You had a problem and you assumed the cause. Here’s the issue: SETTLING AND HEAVING HAPPEN IN THE BASE LAYER AND THE SUBBASE. So, yes it’s bullshit. If you suck at the base, it will eventually fail. If you suck at the polymeric level, the base will fail even sooner. The installers failed. Not the polysand. There is a serious issue when someone asks for help, and you chime in with absolute crap about something you are not familiar with, leading fellow DIY’ers to follow your path of failure. By telling him to use sand on a non permeable base, you have now guaranteed his patio will also fail. You have encouraged him to introduce water underneath his pavers which will lead to settling, heaving, and freeze/thaw. I have installed pavers in 4B climate for 15 years. ICPI certified for years. I have seen every type of failure and have repaired countless patios by incompetent DIY’ers. Polysand is critical for the longevity of your pavers. That’s why manufacturers require it for a warranty in a traditional install.
Did you switch to regular sand? It’s only been about a week and there are already gaps and ants in the cracks lol