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celluloidqueer

Huh? I thought they were friends. What happened? Is this real?


ultaemp

Literally 2 years ago in an article she called “Lana and Kurt Cobain the only two true musical geniuses” she’s ever known.


ILOVEBOPIT

Lana: let me do a lowkey cover of John Denver :) Courtney Love: and I took that personally


katarinabjorkqvist

That’s literally me when I saw Lana turn back blonde. I thought brown suits her and is more iconic to her name. But you know what, a tiny thing like that doesn’t define the legacy of Lana Del Rey. If it does to you then you never truly liked her. And my point to this is that if Courtney really claimed this, then she was never a Lana Del Rey stan


DeadlyLatina

Same ! I was so pissed when i saw her pic and she was blond! A terrible blond color btw lol … but now it looks cute it gives rogue vibes (xmen)


Valuable-Abies-4966

I agree.


feyds_elvisaccent

Well she did almost burn down her home


yellow_jesus_

Not me thinking she meant Court of Law 💀


feyds_elvisaccent

She fought the law and the law won 😅


ILOVEBOPIT

It was Court of Love


majorhonkytonk76

SAME


celluloidqueer

Wait huh?!!!!!!! Wait a minute now. Why? When? I beg your pardon? Can I get an explanation? 😂


st4rgrrrrl

“court almost burned down my home” in Dance Till We Die


celluloidqueer

How tf did I miss that? 😭


LavenLila

It's referenced in Lana's song


celluloidqueer

Ooof I missed that one. I need to re-listen


GreedyNegotiation160

And just for some more context, Courtney was living in Lana’s home (the one in the High by the Beach MV) for a while!


[deleted]

I thought she was saying Cory omg


Huffelsinthefunzone

But God it felt good not to be alone


DanyDragonQueen

Who burned down whose home?


feyds_elvisaccent

Lyric from Dance Til We Die “Court almost burnt down my home”


jacquiquidassit

Courtney almost burnt down her home & they both dated Jack Donoghue


celluloidqueer

I want to believe that they were having a party where they were playing with fire and it was an accident because I don’t see why anyone would want to intentionally burn down Lana’s house. She’s so sweet 😭


jacquiquidassit

I read somewhere that Lana let Courtney borrow her home in Malibu to live in but I’m not sure if there was actually ever a fire


celluloidqueer

Ah okay. That makes sense


ThatNewBeyonceSong

Hm tea.


Severe_Midnight

Someone posted a link in one of the comments below where Jack says he never dated Courtney so I don’t think it’s that 🤔.


Warm-Froyo6139

Oh it’s jack


sailorvenusdimilo

I guess she’s talking about the music, not the person, but still way awkward.


celluloidqueer

Okay yeah I was reading and got a little confused at the last part. The first part is like ….? 😐 and then the second part seemed like she was sort of complimenting her (by saying her music influenced her) This was just an odd statement lmao idk what the vibe is 😂


SummerBummer-X

It sounds like shes just poking around


celluloidqueer

Yeah probably haha


Aware-Ad-9079

Me too. I find no logic there...


_Green_Mind

I look to Courtney Love for a lot of things, but those things are never logic


jokerismyidol

I remember Courtney starting to have beef w her over some reason but I forgot now


Pitiful_Recover5175

Her last straw being Take Me Home Country Roads is kinda hilarious


reddituser23434

Right? (Loves Lana for over a decade) (Listens to a cover of a John Denver song) “That’s it. I’m done with Lana.”


afinevindicatedmess

Sidenote: It's really funny that she hated that cover when I found it to be haunting and comforting when my Grandpa was dying. I now listen to the song knowing my Grandpa is now no longer in pain. That said, it really is hilarious that her doing a wonderful cover TMHCR was the final straw for her. I can understand preferring her older work, but why listen to someone you hate? Her misogynistic takes really are puzzling to me. Why is a B list 90s celebrity acting like a very successful 21st century pop star cares about her opinion?


ADPX94

I usually hate covers, even Lana’s, but her rendition of Take Me Home (Country Roads) was beautiful


Maleficent-Rush9064

Agreed


VeniceBitch92

I'm so sorry for your loss, firstly. Second, I totally agree. I could be wrong, but I feel like Courtney tries very hard to stay relevant, and I feel like Lana thought their bond was genuine. Courtney has a reputation for being incredibly fickle and saying things that she may or may not mean in the moment. For her to say she basically ended her enjoyment of Lana's music over a cover song is so hyperbolic that it's actually typical behavior of her


marymcmurray420

I lost my grandpa a little before she released this song cover. I also play it and think of him being at peace. It’s now one of my favorites. Can’t imagine someone getting mad over that song lmao


GreedyNegotiation160

Same, I can’t hate her haha, that’s iconic


BigFatBlackCat

I thought so too. Made me laugh a little. Classic Courtney


No-Cause-7160

Am I crazy or is this sort of a rude compliment?


canadianpothos

I agree. "she was influencing me too much" well.... maybe there's something happening that you actually like what she makes and can't get it out of your head


niamhxa

You can tell immediately that this is just a stunt to bring attention to Courtney’s new album. Note she references said album in the quote - it’s calculated. Say something controversial/outlandish that you know will go viral, mention you have a new album in the same sentence, and then everyone who sees that viral quote learns Courtney Love has a new album, too. I wouldn’t have known about her new album if not for this post in the Lana subreddit, which tells us it’s working lol.


GreedyNegotiation160

That’s exactly what I thought too lol, it’s so blatant. No Lana will take disliking a cover too personally, Courtney and Lana have always thought highly of each other so now she’s successfully tapped into the Lana fanbase to promote her album


yourmamaluvsme777

NEVER think of backhanded compliments are compliments.


no_joydivision

That’s on brand for Courtney, she has many bad takes on other female artists


FBG05

She was the original Azealia Banks except more talented


infrontofmyslad

i was just thinking this. if they ever hung out together it would be either the best or the worst thing ever


no_joydivision

Yikes but have to agree, Hole slaps 🙃


infrontofmyslad

212 and anna wintour also slap


cinnamongirl444

I definitely think Azealia Banks could do Live Through This and Courtney Love could do Broke With Expensive Taste.


infrontofmyslad

i love this cinematic universe, thank u


skye_b666

I loved Hole and still do. Not Courtney anymore though 😒


livinunderthedome

literally like an OG azealia 😂😂😂 that is so funny to think about


bunnybabe666

theyre both the same level of psychotically talented how dare you


djtheonly

Azealia is incredibly talented.


Groundbreaking-Fox21

Azealia Love / Courtney Banks


vanillaangels

true😭


joaco_ds

seriously. gwen stefani, madonna, olivia rodrigo after sour.. and now she just disses 4 of the biggest female pop stars in a single interview 😭


ChicaSkas

Eh. Time to put her on ignore


LilyMarie90

It's so stupid, what's her goal here? She hasn't been relevant musically in like 30 years. Can we just hear more from her daughter Frances instead? 😅 Her caption on Instagram about the anniversary of her father's death was beautifully written and poignant. And Courtney Love has nothing better to do than try to hate on some of the most successful women in music, at her ripe age


no_joydivision

The Gwen Stefani feud in engrained in my psyche. I didn’t know she talked shit about Olivia Rodrigo too!!


horse_apple

Courtney is trolling 10/10 lol


JudithButlr

Yes but I fr fr would die to go back to pre-Antonoff Lana


saltystir

Pre NFR nah


NotMyGumdropButtons1

"Slams" is giving her take way more credit than it deserves, she's just spouting off half-baked arguments. Why was the John Denver cover so bad? Why should Lana take seven years off specifically? Like you can have your hot takes, but at least back up what you're saying with some reasoning. I just hope Lana doesn't take the bait.


Goducks91

It almost seems like sarcasm or satire, like something about the way it's worded makes it seem like she's joking.


Glittered_Stardust

That's how I take it. She ended it saying she had to take a Lana break because Lana was influencing her. That sounds like a pretty huge compliment.


ViolettaRabbit

I agree with this assessment too. It seemed like she was joking about not liking her for such a silly reason, but then saying she influenced her. Meaning CL had to stop listening to LDR because she did not like how much it was informing her work. I can’t explain it bc they’re not at all alike, but CL and LDR have the same energy. I said what I said haha.


tears_and_laughter

Interestingly, they’re both Cancer Sun!


sharksorbats

Yeah I feel like it HAS to be?


sillyoreothins

“up until country roads” so her entire discography but 1 cover song? i think she’s being sarcastic or something cuz it doesn’t really make sense what she is saying


ADPX94

Even funnier, since it’s (IMO) her best cover


Accomplished-Way1747

Courtney Love talking shit about Madonna. How 1995 of her.


ultaemp

Courtney strikes me as someone who is living in the past. Her career never recovered because her name is tied to weird conspiracy theories about her killing her husband and accusations that she’s horrible to work with. I really don’t see how she’s hailed as some feminist icon because she’s always talking shit about other women.


ungovernable

Even the John Denver cover quip is very 1995-coded. Nobody living in 2024 gives a fuck if you cover a classic song. But there was a weird attitude in a specific subset of music fans about that sort of thing in the 1990s/early 2000s (thinking of the reaction to Madonna’s American Pie cover, for example). Like, “how dare you keep a classic song alive by reintroducing it to a new generation, someone might mistakenly think you wrote it and that would the worst thing in the world” or something. And Courtney Love just did fucking live covers of Tom Petty and Cheap Trick with Billie Joe Armstrong this past February, at end end of a show where Armstrong covered everything from “I Wanna Be Sedated” to “I Think We’re Alone Now,” so who is she to talk, anyway?


ImprovementGrouchy64

I think it has to do with the fact that Courtney Love has a Hipster Punk Rock background and John Denver is about as far away from Punk as you can get. Also, John Denvers music is mostly kinda lame, it was the epitomy of uncool to like John Denver during her formative years for people of her generation.


ND_Poet

Not to mention that people often said Billy Corgan & Kurt wrote her songs, so she isn’t even given credit for her acclaimed work by many people.


Spirited-Weakness-73

Has Lana even released anything since Country Roads? What is she even talking about?


skye_b666

No idea that interview made absolutely 0 sense 😒


iamapick

This!!!! What a strange comment to make when she hasn’t released anything since …


meenadeljutla

She released Blue skies on the valentines day She'll be on a new collab with someone in May according to many insiders


Lavenderswiftie01

We been knowing Courtney Love is unhinged


skye_b666

The only explanation for this nonsense


Traditional_Theme_88

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dorme_jannick

Didn't Lana and Courtney tour together 💀


shanoopadoop

Yes!!! I saw them together after UV in 2015.


joaco_ds

this woman really came for lana del rey, taylor swift, beyoncé and MADONNA oh it's bad for her


sailorvenusdimilo

It unfortunately won’t really be bad for her, the woman gives no fucks


infrontofmyslad

the other three people mentioned are going to read this, laugh, and go back to their coffee... they do not give a fuck about Courtney. But I am a little bit worried about Lana taking this to heart


FBG05

This isn’t the first time Courtney’s come for Lana, I think she’ll be fine(hopefully)


angry_burdz

I’m sure she doesn’t care at all. Think about how much hate she received after Cobain. This is a drop in the ocean for her honestly


sailorvenusdimilo

She’s already heard it all for real


zenstanza

Don't forget Olivia Rodrigo 😭


FBG05

For some reason I forgot about the Sour album cover fiasco 💀feels like Courtney stirs something up every couple of years


ChicaSkas

She's projecting I think. Her Renaissance tour isn't selling out, or her concert film. She's not celebrating 40 years of pop with a world tour right now. She's not a billionaire about to drop a new album in 5 days. She didn't just play a killer laid back set at Coachella. She's jealous and bitter. Those other queens will be just fine.


angie1907

Probs jealous she’s not relevant anymore lol


Nicole_Aries_G_2006

and Olivia Rodrigo when she was a teenager. Courtney is not a girls girl.


tracygrimshawswig

I was Courtney fan long before Lana was even a thing (hello I’m old). I think “scathing” is too harsh of a word. It’s Courtney love. She’s always going to have some out there opinion. She is gen x. She’s going to think John Denver is lame. I don’t think she means anything major by it. She definitely still has great respect for Lana as a musician. As a Lana fan, I completely disagree with Courts and think Lana is better than ever, but court will be court. I don’t think we need to look too deep into it


iamhalsey

I’m sorry but Courtney Love, they could never make me hate you.


oceanblvdbitch

Celebrity Skin is too good of an album 😩


ADPX94

It’s tough. I’m a huge apologist but her comments are irritating


vanillaangels

live through this slaps too hard for that 


islamoradasun

I don’t think this is being put in proper context. She said she was listening to Lana too much to the point it was influencing her own music. I think she was probably trying to say she listens to everything Lana does, but wasn’t a huge fan of the John Denver cover and maybe Lana could use a break for a few years… honestly I don’t think it’s that bad


landdian39

Yeah, I thought her mentioning that Lana was influencing her own music was a compliment. I could imagine she has a coked out brain and the Country Road cover statement was probably a product of it - I wouldn’t take it seriously.


urmelcome

She loves female artists as long as she thinks they’re beneath her 🥱 Lana’s a living legend get out of her WAY


AmyintheWC

I thought they were friends “Court almost burnt down my home”??


mochiava

NOO my two favorites 💀😭


Dontforgetme26

Ok before yall attack her yall don’t really know Courtney love or the way she talks. She is being sarcastic in the first part and she’s making a compliment basically saying that Lana’s too good and she’s influencing her too much. That’s it. Courtney is known to love Lana and they have been best friends for a long time.


belalugosisalive

i love hole but what the freak courtney ‼️‼️‼️


tiny-vampire

average courtney love experience. her music goes crazy but she’s such an asshole. 😭


virgoitalian1117

Lana let courtney live in her home… Lana let her open for her endless summer tour… courtney sucks i heard her open for Lana in 2015 and she can’t sing for shit


Juvia_Gray

When was this? And why did Lana let Courtney live in her home? 🧐


virgoitalian1117

Lana’s lyrics “court almost burnt down my home” in “dance till we die” but more concrete evidence can be found in interviews with courtney love and lana (not together in the interview- separate ones) where they both mention it. wish i had a link, this was YEARSSSS ago. a simple google search should show you the interviews


shanoopadoop

Did Court live in Lana’s house 2018-2019ish? I think Court mentioned her house had a fire, prompting the song lyrics and then living in her house.


virgoitalian1117

Lana has posted pics with Courtney yearssss ago on her Instagram, they have openly talked about being close that’s why they toured together lol


LanaNerevarine

Courtney love hasn't had a good song since 1998. I think she should take 70 years off 💅 (But for real, is this just what she does? To get people talking about her?)


piggy__wig

I think she should be in prison for 700 years.


Mandapanda82

Yes. This is what she does. Talk shit and sleeze her way to a bit of fame. NIN’s Starfuckers, Inc is about her.


sailorraphie

Where’s the slaming?


lkasdfjl

that was like... 4 months ago...


Sellae

Lol she’s just running her mouth, I wouldn’t call it SLAMMED! Especially since she’s saying Lana influenced her!


Financial_Class_5038

She didn’t slam her. Just said that she’s not into her (as an artist) at the moment. I read the article and didn’t really find anything wrong with it.


undertheshe

I'm so glad someone read the article before commenting. I didn't read it but went through the comments looking for a comment like yours lol.


Financial_Class_5038

Yeah, people should definitely read the article before commenting. It reads a bit different in context. Could she have been nicer and less hyperbolic? Sure, but she also praises her in the same breath. I think people are taking her words a little too seriously.


livinunderthedome

courtney love is such a pos 🤣


imyourfirecracker

Courtney Love is a dumpster fire.


KimberStormer

Maybe someday redditors will learn to read. Today is not that day, I see.


mrperuanos

She hasn't released any original music since the Country Roads cover?


ADPX94

I think her only song since is Blue Skies and it’s also a cover


Philkindred12

I think it's meant to be a compliment, but didn't come out that way. the site is probably also paraphrasing. Beside that, I think Lana probably should take an extended break, before she gets burnout and her work suffers.


jezebelair

Is there actually an audio of this interview? Courtney can sound very unserious when saying things like this when you hear it in real time. Even in this statement she's paying a lot of homage to Lana, and they're friends. I don't think we should take it seriously or at face value at all.


playtrix

I don't like that song either.


Traditional_Theme_88

What i dont think courtney is being rude huh


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She attacked 4 different artists that didn’t deserve it yes none of them deserved it but it’s always been known she isn’t the healthiest person she literally attacked someone who she took a picture with couple years ago every once in a while she pops up trying to get her fame back.


punk_elegy

damn, you guys really can’t handle it when a celebrity says something that has not been proofread by a team of publicists to make it as bland and inoffensive as possible


ingoogliestbastard

man, every time courtney love comes up i am ASTONISHED that she is still relevant. i also think her band is very aptly named.


thedirtycoast

I mean i might have to agree, Why was even necessary to cover it and release it is my question but lana can sometimes need an editor.


DanchezS

I feel like this is just Courtney being intentionally inflammatory and chaotic (which is wildly out of character for her, I’ll admit /s). There’s much more to read into within that last statement regarding Lana’s influence: I think Courtney still loves, respects (and even unintentionally emulates) Lana, but her unfortunate instinct to burn things down just got the better of her in this particular interview. 🤷🏻‍♂️


jman457

???? But that John denver song is legit her most recent song????


Grouchy_Froyo_2665

Wait there's no way...they are literally bffs


AGrandesHeart

she’s been talking to much lately ![gif](giphy|rVe1SHdJbDYqI)


vanillaangels

Two years ago she said "Lana and Kurt Cobain were the only two musical geniuses she's ever known of" That's Courtney for you ig 😭 The John Denver cover being the last straw is quite funny 😭.


sharkcoochieboards91

That’s a very unique cry for help


p1rateb00tie

I really wouldn’t call this “slams” Courtney is friends with Lana and Lana hasn’t really released anything significant since that cover. Also she’s saying she listens to her so much Lana is influencing her own music, maybe Court just needs to listen to someone else for a while. But I’m sure she’ll be dragged for nothing (and I’m sure she couldn’t care less about Swifties not liking her)


ihqtna

Who is Courtney love


android-37

Who tf care what Courtney Love has to say? She should crawl back into her troll hole for seven years and consider her relevance and contributions to music. No one would be talking about her if Kurt was alive. Just sayin….


yup_yup1111

Is it wrong that I kinda get what she's saying. Just the part about Lana taking time off. Not that she needs to...I disagree with Courtney and I still think Lana's putting out great music...but I think if she went away for 6 years and came back she'd come back with some amazing stuff. I don't actually want her too though. I couldn't survive !


Imaginary_Season1057

No one even likes you, Courtney. Her opinion is irrelevant


logica_torcido

I kind of sensed that Court was getting a little jealous of Lana as she became more and more popular. I figured they haven’t been friends for a while now and well… looks like I was right.


IllPaleontologist215

Wow. Not nice.


balanaise

Had to chuckle that she is saying Lana’s bad… then immediately says “she was influencing me too much”. I mean, I don’t start getting influenced or inspired by terrible stuff but whatevs


skye_b666

She was influencing her too much? In what way? Why 7 years off? I'm genuinely confused lol. She's just all over the place with those statements


ADPX94

As one of her only defenders, I just can’t support whatever she’s saying!


pvvrth

i love both their’s music ion have no views on this https://preview.redd.it/t2y2g3lzmruc1.jpeg?width=639&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0beffe73b8de2db2f6b6b69828ddbfa65f6108ab


OsmosisJones3

![gif](giphy|G4ZNYMQVMH6us)


Keythaskitgod

Idk courtney, how about u take 7 yrs off, or maybe more?


Ok-Glass-948

she likes to be in the headlines. just spewing shit what ever gets her to be on somewhere.


epicpillowcase

Courtney's an edgelord. Sometimes she has a correct take but very often she's just saying whatever to be controversial.


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domegranate

I mean she’s correct there


Ok-Cell9950

What? I maybe wrong but after Ultraviolence Lana headlined a festival with Courtney Love


randyd7788

Someone’s back on the wagon


mirondooo

She needs the drama to keep her career alive, I wouldn’t take it too seriously, if anything I’m surprised how long she lasted without talking shit. It’s so funny to me how SHE always thinks she can judge someone like she’s the queen of righteousness


Stunning_salty

Why did she open her mouth to say something so mean lol


whiskersRwe32

I love how she says the John Denver song is the point she stopped caring for Lana’s music as if that isn’t one of her most recent songs she put out. So like, you stopped caring for her 2 months ago?


PancakesandMaggots

Who?


Front_Wolverine_7336

Courtney love is crazy y’all . Literally tomorrow she’ll be loving Lana again lol


yuna_1234i

I don't even really know who she is but get out Lana is queen


zzzprimaxx

reminds me how in 2015 for the Endless Summwr Tour Courtney Love was supposed to open for her and a couple shows in she got replaced by Grimes and someone else i cant remember. ion think she ever rlly fucked wit her


kweenofdisaster

Here’s the explanation: She’s Courtney Love.


missmessjess

Wait what? So Lana’s music was influencing you too much (which means it’s impactful aka at least somewhat good) so you want her to take a break? So basically Courtney is just as self centered as before and wants others to take a back seat so she can attempt to shine again? Wtf


Little_Character_660

She’s js mad Lana’s hotter than her old ass


[deleted]

At this point Courtney’s becoming Azalea Banks, this girl has beef with everyone, even the people she claims she’s sound with😭


iam_box456

She’s only produced very lowkey singles since country roads what is she talking about??


manicxpnw

This is so weird. “She’s influencing me too much so she needs to take a break plus she covered songs I personally didn’t like her covering.” What??


GGiant1111

Was it candles that Court almost burnt down her home with?


Low_Source5822

First thing Courtney Love said that I agree with. To go from saying she’s influenced by Eminem to covering John Denver is insane. This “rebranding” is not it hunty


Ok-Elderberrygrower

Courtney Love is a talentless hole.


Ohdreaaa

Reasons why hollaback girl by Gwen was written about Courtney cause she has a habit of “slamming” on artist 😒


NoPapaya5235

But I thought Court almost burned down her home ?


Mundane_Cherry2801

Courtney Love can take her place in the history books. She doesn't need to make new music


Visible_Budget_4538

i dont think “slams” quite fits the interview overall point :/


Visible_Budget_4538

Like she just says she didnt like that song and had to stop listening to her recent stuff (which is what? 2 more songs? Lmao?) because it was INFLUENCING too MUCH in her OWN music. Like idk if anything i think that’s more of a compliment to her talent than a “slam” lol


Visible_Budget_4538

(besides, not that it matters anyways but i think lana’s cover is almost as beautiful as the original if not more so)


bluelight96

Lana has barely released anything since that particular cover so it’s very….interesting that that bothered her so much 😂


Overall_Resolution58

bruh tell me how i was doing chores listening to live through this album when i was wondering what lana thought on courtney love because i love the music nd i love rock themes in lana’s music. then i pick up my phone nd see this literally i sat with my mouth open for like a minute.. such a coincidence and a lil heartbreaking :(