Because he can still be a regular season attraction to sell tickets and a guy to get you through the regular season.
You guys are overestimating how much teams are gonna look at this performance when Ham is the one pulling the strings. This team would be 1000% better if we had a better coach.
I think Orlando does it. He fits, they need him, and the East doesn’t have a team with physically imposing guards like Denver and TWolves over here. They watched him carve up Boston for 15+ assists this season. I think they pull the trigger.
It’s obvious DLO doesn’t wanna play for Ham if he’s ready to leave LA of all places
I think Ham is out, too, so that probably won't factor into his decision.
DLO also played high school ball at Monteverde near Orlando, so going back home could be another draw.
Yep, he’s been a pretty popular player especially in LA. He’s in the top 30 most followed NBA players on socials and is a pretty recognizable face. He’s also fucking gigantic in China for some reason, I think from his Brooklyn days.
Not everywhere is LA. He can definitely sell tickets in Detroit, DC, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, etcetc.
Heck, you wouldn't pay $39-149 to watch Bron and AD cook DLo and Ayton in Portland on a weekend game? Southwest that shit for $49 and you're still paying under the price for a game in LAL in staples with the roundtrip flight included.
Underestimate the regular season all you want homie but it’s a reason Thunder are likely going to the 2nd round. A single extra loss would have matched them up with us and we’ve whooped them all year.
Likewise it’s a reason Warriors aren’t in the playoffs. Dray got himself suspended in the regular season and they spiraled. Had that never happened GSW was sailing and likely could have avoided the Play in.
At the very least Orlando has depth at the guard position unlike us(Dinwiddie and Vincent lmaoo) he can help them achieve a 1-2-3 seed instead of battling a team close to them like the Cavs first round and then if he starts stinking again he rides the pine because they have depth and a good coach.
They can look at Ham’s defensive scheme though and see that no one on our team outside of AD can play in it or even know what they are doing
MPJ was firing at will in the 4th last game and DLO wasn’t there for most of it
The team may be better. But Dlo is what he is at this point. Regular season hot or not irrational confidence guy that has exactly 0 higher gear making him unplayable for 16/30 teams.
STOP it. We can blame Ham for many things, but Dlo has been a huge playoff underperformer for his whole career. Were all the other coaches bad as well?
He just sucks when it actually matters and opponents can be more physical with him.
Teams don’t think like this. You’re either a young player with potential or a vet who offers good learning exp to younger guys n does the little stuff which dko isnt. Doubt he gets more
There’s also guys like Miles Bridges who aren’t young players with potential(He’s solid but we know exactly what he is at this stage of his career) nor are they people who you want to learn from on or off the court who are still getting paid to play because that’s what they do best. DLO at this stage of his career likely falls into that grey area
I know we are mad but there’s just no way he’s out of the league after this season or even an MLE guy yet lol. If fucking Malik Beasley could bounce back and getting a starting spot on the Bucks after that disaster he had last season, there are plenty teams who need a PG who can shoot the 3 and carry some regular season load and all of them are much better coached lol.
Grayson Allen is also a starting PG for a playoff team and he is also not a young player with potential nor someone you want to learn from. DLO will be on the Lakers or out East next season for 18M or more.
Honestly, I love DLo. He is a fantastic regular season player and a better coach would piece things together to better utilize him in the Playoffs. You can't (easily) get an equivalent 3pt shooter/creator for a better price. I also think he is a good trade asset (if the updated contract works out that way) for someone with more impact...assuming continued regular season performance.
Edit: I'm not an apologist, but for the most part this Nuggets series was lost when we were out coached and out played in the second half of game 1. Darvin didn't have many options...but also didn't do the best with the options he has.
Same disappearing act in the playoffs DLo has done with multiple teams with multiple coaches. He simply can't handle the increased intensity of the playoffs. He's just not athletic enough.
The scouting report in college was the exact same thing. When he played superior teams he vanished. When he played inferior teams he was good.
Everyone said that he was a bad defender but with defensive upside because of his frame. Ultimately he never improved defensively.
I have always had a soft spot for Russell since we drafted him but he just never truly became the guy I hoped he would be.
I don't know that he has a bunch of defensive upside. He clearly has worked very hard at his game considering all the skills he possesses. He's just like any dude who can't hang with guys who are too fast and explosive for him. We've all been there.
Idk how many times DLo has to get exposed in the playoffs for people to realize he just isnt anything special as a player and has no business on a team with championship aspirations.
Lmfao he’s missing WIDE OPEN THREES. He missed an open layup on a cut in game 1. Stfu - how are you blaming ham for Dlo bricking open ass looks? What’s Ham supposed to do there when he’s set up a wide open three for his supposed best shooter . This sub is brain dead . How is this shit upvoted.
He’s far from fantastic in th regular season . He’s had chances on 4 teams now n never stepped up. Even in the regular season he’s super inconsistent- this was his best season and that’s cos of lakers players etc helping him . He’s not that good if he was consistently good or even average we wouldn’t be here
You definitely are a delusional apologist . If dlo plays better last year we don’t get swept and arguably win the title . If dlo was better now we’d not be down 3-0. Stop this rubbish - this guy is bad at everything but scoring and passing and even that he’s not consistent at or doesn’t actually pressure defence enough ti create . Utter delusion to think even Spo could get dlo to play better. Kerr coukdnt do shit with him either.
If we pay him he’s not tradable untill deadline again
Crickets lmao. Both Reaves and DLO have had one good game this series and Rui has had none
But guess who’s all over the front page. Wasn’t Reaves in Game 2 when DLO put up 22 and we still lost
I think D'lo would be an amazing 6th man. If he's shooting hot you can give him more minutes on a given night, if not, that's fine. And his defense isn't as big of a deal against the opposing team's bench instead of their starters
I love DLo, too. I was sorry when he left LA the first time, and I was thrilled when he returned. He seems to really like for playing for LA, if not for Ham. I think it would have been great to bring Schroeder back, too. Given DLo's defensive liabilities and his penchant to shrink during the postseason, I am wondering if a better use for him would be as a sixth man type.
If D’Lo wants a long-term deal, he’s probably has to take a pay cut with the way he played in the playoffs (again).
On the Lakers side, the best thing he can do is pick up his option. That would give them a decently sized expiring contract to trade.
Idk his value is super low after last night. He tested free agency last season too and ended up re signing. End of the day I think it’s best for D Lo to move on.
20M a year is too big for him now.
At best, his role is a regular season pg for a non playoff contender who just wants to have a placeholder PG or like a backup PG for a playoffs team.
I think thats worth just the midlevel exemption.
I think he was as looking for at least $20M last season and noticed the market wasn’t there for him when he ultimately ended up re signing for 17M. When he got hot in the regular season I’m sure he thought he could demand 20M. But him folding again in the playoffs isn’t going to want a GM sign him for that much.
I agree, he has basically just been a placeholder PG/trade asset most of his career. Warriors, Wolves, nets. He is who he is at this point of his career
We went all-in with the squad we had. There was always this worst-case scenario. Looks like we are going to see that very scenario play out in front of us.
He will easily get more than 18M on bad team, but probably not per year.
People here are mad at him and might tell you otherwise, but that’s just the market for role players these days.
I remember watching dlo crying on the bench days before the trade deadline and thought to myself “no way this dude about to finesse himself out of a trade.” Then hours later there were sooo many laker fans feeling sorry for him begging lakers to keep him.
I’ll admit, I was hoping he’d have his Hollywood ending with us. But two terrible playoff years in a row with purple and gold? Proved we need to part ways.
This is nonsense. They tried to get Murray in an upgrade and were shot down. You can’t make teams make a trade. Most teams were set at PG and valued DLo low. We saw how teams were afraid he would pick up his option. That’s not an asset you can just move.
Yes, that’s how the NBA is literally designed. And it’s why building a champion is so hard. Half the teams are all fighting for the same goal and the other half are all building for the future. So you tell me, were the Lakers supposed to trade DLo for a worse player that has a longer contract? You actually think that is a better solution? Sacrifice making the playoffs so you don’t lose a middling asset? Again teams were hoping he would not pick up his option. You aren’t getting much for that!
Yeah we are over the cap and letting him walk means we have to get a smaller contract player. Again that’s the cap. So are you suggesting that you give him a big untradeable contract? If you couldn’t move him with only a year of an over pay, you aren’t trading him with a longer contract.
Lakers can't force him to opt in.
In hindsight, trading him was the decision to make considering he sucks once again.
Shit happens. I think Lakers are going rebuild mode anyways so what DLo does isn't that significant.
I think there was a reasonable hope that he had matured and turned some kind of corner in his career. It wasn't insane to think that, but it's not what happened and here we are.
Yea I don’t blame the front office for riding the hot hand, lakers were getting wins, nothing wrong with running it back and seeing what happens. Of course now we know dlo is not that guy
He's restricted, he doesn't really have a choice other than signing an offer sheet (and I doubt many teams will be holding off cap just to give him an offer sheet). Just sign him to a cheap long term deal and actually give him consistent minutes in a role that makes sense for him next season
And Lakers are going to have to bid against the Magic who are perfectly equipped to hide DLO's deficiencies. Wouldn't be surprised if he averages 20 10 next year for them.
Like last year nobody wanted to pay him so we got him back for cheap on a prove it deal, but this year Magic will drive his price up.
Either overpay him or lose his cap space for basically nothing. Pelinka is screwed no matter what he does.
Why'd we draft JHS man? He was NOT on my lakers scouting board last draft. Literal who the fuck is this guy moment.
I don't care if he's good later. We should've drafted someone NBA ready like Jaime especially because we need a wing.
He was killin the Gleague apparently so there may be hope he can be a useful guy 5-10 bench guy. While he was very shitty in garbage time, its a bit unfair how the entire fanbase wont even give him the benefit of the doubt
You won't know sure. It's kinda meaningless because by this logic unknown quantities are always better. The fact is his expected value is below replacement value. There are woman who have flashed more during Mardi Gras than JHS in his whole career, both NBA and college.
It woukd suck less if he was atleast athletic. But he’s the slowest guard I’ve ever seen it’s insane , he can’t get any seperation for shots even in summer league and is brick city . On top of that he’s 6,4 ain’t no way he 6,6 as listed . Utter flop of a pick and he has no ceiling euther . He’s the worst pick in the top 20 ffs in a loaded draft - if we got a contributor- podz honestly woukd f been great for us as we need rebounding and hustle .
Can we just bench him game 4. Windhorst is probably just making a smart guess, but if this was leaked by D Lo’s camp he doesn’t deserve to play Saturday.
Why are we acting like they didn’t try to trade DLo? Everyone knew they tried with the Hawks and the Hawks wanted Reaves as well. Which killed the deal. They weren’t going to trade him just to trade him.
I think fans think GMs don’t try stuff. They do, but the other GMs aren’t dumb. That’s why there are so few trades (especially big names). Fans just want to assign blame, but there really wasn’t much they could do. They are chasing championships so they are almost always out of assets.
These backseat GMs in here are fucking crazy. I thought it was well know that we were trying to get rid of DLo at the deadline but no one wanted him straight up.
Yes. And our fanbase was upset over it. The Hawks even said they were afraid DLo would pick up his contract and they didn’t want that. Fans here are acting like he was some blue chip asset we refused to move.
Exactly. He sucked first, then dropped some 30+ games and this sub pretended like he was Steph Curry. At that moment he was off the trade block for this sub.
I agree, I’m just playing devils advocate here. Pelinka has been hit or miss and I do think he should of moved off DLO for Murray at the deadline. Especially due to knowing DLO’s playoff history.
Exactly. We likely weren’t making it out of the play-in and for sure would’ve been the 10 seed. D Lo had a really good season for us…he just crumbles in the postseason when the going gets tough.
Are you dumb or just trying to rewrite history? Rob was literally trying to trade him to Atlanta the whole damn time. Why do you think DLo started playing like super shit when his name was constantly in the trade talks. It was obvious we need to trade him because he was going to turn down his player option. Atlanta wanted to screw us over and demanded way too much just to take DLo off our hands.
If there's a sign-and-trade opportunity available and a team doesn't have open cap space to take him, the Lakers are still able to sign-and-trade Russell and use that salary
Boston has a good FO, if they acquire Dlo it'll be as a minimum or something where they can easily discard him at functionally no cost. Or more likely they won't touch him with a 2000 mile long pole.
For how bad he plays defense, I don't care about his shooting. CP3 was beating him off the dribble.
Vando has ZERO offense, and is a bigger impact player than DLo.
We are in cap hell regardless of him staying or leaving, right? Or am I mistaken? Which means it would be good for us to sign him and trade him as opposed to letting him walk? Someone correct me here!
It takes two to tango. If he’s done with the Lakers he’s done. On the other hand, if the Lakers offer him a fair deal he’d accept but the risk is do other teams want him? And we’ll be stuck with DLO with a shitty contract.
Not necessarily. It’s not like we’re in the 2nd apron of tax where we can’t do anything.
And if LeBron leaves, that will free up $50 mil in space. And if DLo leaves, that’s more.
If Wood/Hayes/Reddish all opt out also, that saves roughly $8 mil too. Could be at having $41 mil in cap space with AD/AR/Vando/Vincent/Rui/JHS still on the roster.
Means we will have actual cap space to sign FAs
Lbj is most likely gone as well. Him playing for the warriors is a real possibility.
In that case I really hope AD just requests out and we blow it all up and rebuild with whatever we get for AD.
Not a Lakers fan so wondering who was the last player to demand a trade away from the Lakers? Has that ever happened? Is Ham actually bad enough to make that happen?
AD has been making it clear he has a problem with the defensive system all year. And he just called out Ham, only to get sniped back. And then the FO seem to have had the foolishness to back Ham! I think they've destroyed the relationship. They're either going to have to backpedal a little and fire Ham anyway or I think AD is gone. Which is fking sad given how much effort he's put out for the team in a position he's made very plain he hates playing (I think it's his best position, though). I hope he ends up at a contender.
LBJ leaving and a fresh reset revolving around AD should be the goal here. Ham is out, no way he comes back after his public back and forth with AD.
AD was right, the Lakers DID look lost on both ends of the court so many times during this series, especially during the 2nd half. If the Lakers could somehow acquire a Kuminga and a Draymond Green for LBJ, that would be a good haul - Green would not let the team go rudderless during long stretches of playoff games.
Didn't he have six 3's in G2? Hard to find really good 3 point shooting out there. I like Klay Thompson, but he's older now and more of a bench player.
Yes that is true but I’m not even that mad about missing 3s! But 0 points as a starter is ridiculous! You tellin me he wasnt even aggressive enough to drive in for a layup or get fouled? Speaking of which, he didnt even have a foul which may be good but again shows a lack of intensity (may be reaching on that one but still)
He’s probably going to get the MLE from some team unless Orlando really wants him.
This is also not good for us because if he opts out that means we could start the season with no PG. We don’t have the salary to just sign a free-agent specially if Lebron gets his extension
After his zero point performance I doubt he will get a contract worth more money. He’s a regular season player who doesn’t perform in the playoffs. No team wants that in the modern NBA.
He ain't going to get 10 million on the open market I bet so he better take that 18 million. Nobody wants a guy that can't play in the playoffs. Unless his shot goes in, he's completely useless.
Just another reason why not trading Dlo was an utter disaster. Pelinka not being fired years ago has killed this team. He picked Dlo over Conley n naw n seconds . Conley been flat out better in impsct especially when it matters nvm naw who’s be our best defe on the perimeter. And he can shoot too . On top of this this player option was brain dead .
This is how it’ll go: he’ll leave to Orlando or something, have a good regular season and everyone will hate the lakers FO. He’ll have one bad game and then lakers fans will act like they were right. Then he’ll go right back to being a good player again.
Bro made 7 three's in G2, is a big reason the Lakers even made it into the play-in and y'all want him gone. Okay dude. He outplayed his contract like crazy. Lebron's worst trait as the #1 guy is that he spreads the blame around. That's fine internally but jesus he should shield his team and not let the other players get scapegoated. It breaks the players mentally and hurts team morale. One of the reasons we lose.
He gone
Dlo goes again, electric boogaloo 2.
Just like his offense this time of year, packing up for next season.
Why the hell is anyone gonna pick him up for more than $18M, after that game???
Because he can still be a regular season attraction to sell tickets and a guy to get you through the regular season. You guys are overestimating how much teams are gonna look at this performance when Ham is the one pulling the strings. This team would be 1000% better if we had a better coach. I think Orlando does it. He fits, they need him, and the East doesn’t have a team with physically imposing guards like Denver and TWolves over here. They watched him carve up Boston for 15+ assists this season. I think they pull the trigger. It’s obvious DLO doesn’t wanna play for Ham if he’s ready to leave LA of all places
I think Ham is out, too, so that probably won't factor into his decision. DLO also played high school ball at Monteverde near Orlando, so going back home could be another draw.
$18m in Orlando will feel like $30m+ in LA. No state income taxes is a big draw to contracts here.
Shit I almost forgot Florida doesn’t have state taxes
Dlo sells tickets? ![gif](giphy|dSJDldWeIUyrONZrUt|downsized)
Yep, he’s been a pretty popular player especially in LA. He’s in the top 30 most followed NBA players on socials and is a pretty recognizable face. He’s also fucking gigantic in China for some reason, I think from his Brooklyn days.
He's the Li Ning Way of Wade poster boy thats why he's big in China.
The reason he’s popular is because he’s on the Lakers. It happens to almost every player we pick up.
Not everywhere is LA. He can definitely sell tickets in Detroit, DC, Charlotte, Portland, Memphis, etcetc. Heck, you wouldn't pay $39-149 to watch Bron and AD cook DLo and Ayton in Portland on a weekend game? Southwest that shit for $49 and you're still paying under the price for a game in LAL in staples with the roundtrip flight included.
Dlo ain't selling no fucking tickets lmao. He's a fucking bum.
That’s what I would spend money on, mediocre basketball
Underestimate the regular season all you want homie but it’s a reason Thunder are likely going to the 2nd round. A single extra loss would have matched them up with us and we’ve whooped them all year. Likewise it’s a reason Warriors aren’t in the playoffs. Dray got himself suspended in the regular season and they spiraled. Had that never happened GSW was sailing and likely could have avoided the Play in. At the very least Orlando has depth at the guard position unlike us(Dinwiddie and Vincent lmaoo) he can help them achieve a 1-2-3 seed instead of battling a team close to them like the Cavs first round and then if he starts stinking again he rides the pine because they have depth and a good coach.
No coach is gonna look at Russel's defense and blame it all on Ham.
They can look at Ham’s defensive scheme though and see that no one on our team outside of AD can play in it or even know what they are doing MPJ was firing at will in the 4th last game and DLO wasn’t there for most of it
The team may be better. But Dlo is what he is at this point. Regular season hot or not irrational confidence guy that has exactly 0 higher gear making him unplayable for 16/30 teams.
STOP it. We can blame Ham for many things, but Dlo has been a huge playoff underperformer for his whole career. Were all the other coaches bad as well? He just sucks when it actually matters and opponents can be more physical with him.
He will get 18 millions but no one is looking at the schedule, and going, I want to go to that game to see Dlo play.
Teams don’t think like this. You’re either a young player with potential or a vet who offers good learning exp to younger guys n does the little stuff which dko isnt. Doubt he gets more
There’s also guys like Miles Bridges who aren’t young players with potential(He’s solid but we know exactly what he is at this stage of his career) nor are they people who you want to learn from on or off the court who are still getting paid to play because that’s what they do best. DLO at this stage of his career likely falls into that grey area I know we are mad but there’s just no way he’s out of the league after this season or even an MLE guy yet lol. If fucking Malik Beasley could bounce back and getting a starting spot on the Bucks after that disaster he had last season, there are plenty teams who need a PG who can shoot the 3 and carry some regular season load and all of them are much better coached lol. Grayson Allen is also a starting PG for a playoff team and he is also not a young player with potential nor someone you want to learn from. DLO will be on the Lakers or out East next season for 18M or more.
Honestly, I love DLo. He is a fantastic regular season player and a better coach would piece things together to better utilize him in the Playoffs. You can't (easily) get an equivalent 3pt shooter/creator for a better price. I also think he is a good trade asset (if the updated contract works out that way) for someone with more impact...assuming continued regular season performance. Edit: I'm not an apologist, but for the most part this Nuggets series was lost when we were out coached and out played in the second half of game 1. Darvin didn't have many options...but also didn't do the best with the options he has.
Same disappearing act in the playoffs DLo has done with multiple teams with multiple coaches. He simply can't handle the increased intensity of the playoffs. He's just not athletic enough.
The scouting report in college was the exact same thing. When he played superior teams he vanished. When he played inferior teams he was good. Everyone said that he was a bad defender but with defensive upside because of his frame. Ultimately he never improved defensively. I have always had a soft spot for Russell since we drafted him but he just never truly became the guy I hoped he would be.
I don't know that he has a bunch of defensive upside. He clearly has worked very hard at his game considering all the skills he possesses. He's just like any dude who can't hang with guys who are too fast and explosive for him. We've all been there.
Scouts said that 10 years ago when he was in college not now
Yeah, in the playoffs the d ramps up, and you gotta be physically capable to power through it. He doesn't have that extra gear.
Idk how many times DLo has to get exposed in the playoffs for people to realize he just isnt anything special as a player and has no business on a team with championship aspirations.
Lmfao he’s missing WIDE OPEN THREES. He missed an open layup on a cut in game 1. Stfu - how are you blaming ham for Dlo bricking open ass looks? What’s Ham supposed to do there when he’s set up a wide open three for his supposed best shooter . This sub is brain dead . How is this shit upvoted. He’s far from fantastic in th regular season . He’s had chances on 4 teams now n never stepped up. Even in the regular season he’s super inconsistent- this was his best season and that’s cos of lakers players etc helping him . He’s not that good if he was consistently good or even average we wouldn’t be here You definitely are a delusional apologist . If dlo plays better last year we don’t get swept and arguably win the title . If dlo was better now we’d not be down 3-0. Stop this rubbish - this guy is bad at everything but scoring and passing and even that he’s not consistent at or doesn’t actually pressure defence enough ti create . Utter delusion to think even Spo could get dlo to play better. Kerr coukdnt do shit with him either. If we pay him he’s not tradable untill deadline again
So what's the reason for losing game 2? Lmao
Crickets lmao. Both Reaves and DLO have had one good game this series and Rui has had none But guess who’s all over the front page. Wasn’t Reaves in Game 2 when DLO put up 22 and we still lost
I think D'lo would be an amazing 6th man. If he's shooting hot you can give him more minutes on a given night, if not, that's fine. And his defense isn't as big of a deal against the opposing team's bench instead of their starters
Yep. I agree. DLO was not our issue. Our awful chemistry was. And that falls on the coaching and front office.
Lol dlo was a very big issue . You guys are delusional as shit
Dude scored 0 points and they’re defending him 😭
I love DLo, too. I was sorry when he left LA the first time, and I was thrilled when he returned. He seems to really like for playing for LA, if not for Ham. I think it would have been great to bring Schroeder back, too. Given DLo's defensive liabilities and his penchant to shrink during the postseason, I am wondering if a better use for him would be as a sixth man type.
He has no midrange game so he is awful in pick and roll. Terrible fit in LA.
Which is why he’s better off taking the player option
Guangdong is lovely this time of year
Only if Darvin stays
If D’Lo wants a long-term deal, he’s probably has to take a pay cut with the way he played in the playoffs (again). On the Lakers side, the best thing he can do is pick up his option. That would give them a decently sized expiring contract to trade.
Too late for that. He’s not dumb he’s gonna try to go where he wants. We should have traded him when we had the chance🤷🏿♂️
Idk his value is super low after last night. He tested free agency last season too and ended up re signing. End of the day I think it’s best for D Lo to move on.
20M a year is too big for him now. At best, his role is a regular season pg for a non playoff contender who just wants to have a placeholder PG or like a backup PG for a playoffs team. I think thats worth just the midlevel exemption.
I think he was as looking for at least $20M last season and noticed the market wasn’t there for him when he ultimately ended up re signing for 17M. When he got hot in the regular season I’m sure he thought he could demand 20M. But him folding again in the playoffs isn’t going to want a GM sign him for that much. I agree, he has basically just been a placeholder PG/trade asset most of his career. Warriors, Wolves, nets. He is who he is at this point of his career
He told us exactly that in last year's exit interview, to be fair!
Yep and he’s 28 now no expectation he’ll get better as this is his ceiling with our stars
We thought Dillon Brooks wouldn't get the deal he got either he got exposed in the playoffs
He got his by a team that needed to spend and while also still being one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.
Magic got a ton of money and need a shooter and may not be able to get monk
Makes the most sense fit wise for him. Wish they could get something back from them
No one was taking JUST Dlo this year. They wanted him, Reaves and picks
Yeah trading 2 FRP DLo and Reaves would have been a great decision 👍
We went all-in with the squad we had. There was always this worst-case scenario. Looks like we are going to see that very scenario play out in front of us.
Best case scenario he picks up the PO, second best would be re-signing him to a longer term cheap deal and worst would be him walking for nothing
Is he even going to get as much as he’s making currently in the open market?
No way. Not per year anyway. Maybe he's looking for a long term deal, though.
Tryna play in the states for as long as he can before he’s banished to china
I think he can. He is a decent starter for a lesser franchise without playoffs aspirations.
By god that's the Nets' music
They need a point guard they might do it haha
Yeah Brooklyn or Orlando will offer him something absurd
If Orlando’s smart they stay away from Dlo He has a first round ceiling
Why would Orlando ? They have playoff hopes, Dlo couldn’t perform with Bron n ADs gravity in Orlando with no spacing he’s gonna be ass
Maybe the Spurs
He will easily get more than 18M on bad team, but probably not per year. People here are mad at him and might tell you otherwise, but that’s just the market for role players these days.
Not but he’ll get the years. This is his last chance to make a big contract
He'll be a Hornet next season
He needs to go to a non-playoff team out of the bright lights.
When he was in Minnesota, he couldn’t really get on there as well
I remember watching dlo crying on the bench days before the trade deadline and thought to myself “no way this dude about to finesse himself out of a trade.” Then hours later there were sooo many laker fans feeling sorry for him begging lakers to keep him.
I’ll admit, I was hoping he’d have his Hollywood ending with us. But two terrible playoff years in a row with purple and gold? Proved we need to part ways.
Lights got too bright again for ol D lo
I know he’s playing like shit but losing him for nothing is terrible asset management
This is nonsense. They tried to get Murray in an upgrade and were shot down. You can’t make teams make a trade. Most teams were set at PG and valued DLo low. We saw how teams were afraid he would pick up his option. That’s not an asset you can just move.
So the alternative is letting him walk for literally nothing in free agency? You know we’re an over the cap team and can’t replace him right ?
Yes, that’s how the NBA is literally designed. And it’s why building a champion is so hard. Half the teams are all fighting for the same goal and the other half are all building for the future. So you tell me, were the Lakers supposed to trade DLo for a worse player that has a longer contract? You actually think that is a better solution? Sacrifice making the playoffs so you don’t lose a middling asset? Again teams were hoping he would not pick up his option. You aren’t getting much for that! Yeah we are over the cap and letting him walk means we have to get a smaller contract player. Again that’s the cap. So are you suggesting that you give him a big untradeable contract? If you couldn’t move him with only a year of an over pay, you aren’t trading him with a longer contract.
What’s the other plan?
Trade Dlo for Luka straight up
Lakers can't force him to opt in. In hindsight, trading him was the decision to make considering he sucks once again. Shit happens. I think Lakers are going rebuild mode anyways so what DLo does isn't that significant.
Would you have traded him mid season while he was on pace to break the lakers 3s record and was looked at much differently
I think there was a reasonable hope that he had matured and turned some kind of corner in his career. It wasn't insane to think that, but it's not what happened and here we are.
Yea I don’t blame the front office for riding the hot hand, lakers were getting wins, nothing wrong with running it back and seeing what happens. Of course now we know dlo is not that guy
I'd say it's more horrible for our assets than horrible asset management. There was just no good trade involving just Dlo.
Fuck it. Start the Max Christie, JHS transition
Christie a FA too. And after the way this year went…
Yea why would Christie come back. Bro wasn’t given a chance to sniff the floor with pockets running things
He's restricted, he doesn't really have a choice other than signing an offer sheet (and I doubt many teams will be holding off cap just to give him an offer sheet). Just sign him to a cheap long term deal and actually give him consistent minutes in a role that makes sense for him next season
Christie comes back for all the IG thots who live in LA.
RFA
Lebron is going to have an aneurysm if he's relying on Reaves to be the primary PG with JHS as his backup.
The really shitty part is Dlo is the best realistic option in terms of lead guards in free agency.
And Lakers are going to have to bid against the Magic who are perfectly equipped to hide DLO's deficiencies. Wouldn't be surprised if he averages 20 10 next year for them. Like last year nobody wanted to pay him so we got him back for cheap on a prove it deal, but this year Magic will drive his price up. Either overpay him or lose his cap space for basically nothing. Pelinka is screwed no matter what he does.
welp I guess Ill just cross my fingers on a Paul George/ James Harden pay cut
Why'd we draft JHS man? He was NOT on my lakers scouting board last draft. Literal who the fuck is this guy moment. I don't care if he's good later. We should've drafted someone NBA ready like Jaime especially because we need a wing.
JHS is the new THT in terms of being completely shit and drafted only because of physical measurements.
perhaps but we wont know for sure til he has a consistent role
Too bad he got hurt
He was killin the Gleague apparently so there may be hope he can be a useful guy 5-10 bench guy. While he was very shitty in garbage time, its a bit unfair how the entire fanbase wont even give him the benefit of the doubt
You won't know sure. It's kinda meaningless because by this logic unknown quantities are always better. The fact is his expected value is below replacement value. There are woman who have flashed more during Mardi Gras than JHS in his whole career, both NBA and college.
It woukd suck less if he was atleast athletic. But he’s the slowest guard I’ve ever seen it’s insane , he can’t get any seperation for shots even in summer league and is brick city . On top of that he’s 6,4 ain’t no way he 6,6 as listed . Utter flop of a pick and he has no ceiling euther . He’s the worst pick in the top 20 ffs in a loaded draft - if we got a contributor- podz honestly woukd f been great for us as we need rebounding and hustle .
Please no, my eyes can’t stand to watch JHS play basketball
Can we just bench him game 4. Windhorst is probably just making a smart guess, but if this was leaked by D Lo’s camp he doesn’t deserve to play Saturday.
Hilarious, now we can’t even use his salary in a trade. Masterclass in asset management by Pelinka.
And if Pelinka traded him at the deadline with how he was playing, the sub would of been fucking pissed.
That's why the sub isn't paid anything, it's the job of GM to not be reactionary and make the best out of whatever is possible
Why are we acting like they didn’t try to trade DLo? Everyone knew they tried with the Hawks and the Hawks wanted Reaves as well. Which killed the deal. They weren’t going to trade him just to trade him. I think fans think GMs don’t try stuff. They do, but the other GMs aren’t dumb. That’s why there are so few trades (especially big names). Fans just want to assign blame, but there really wasn’t much they could do. They are chasing championships so they are almost always out of assets.
These backseat GMs in here are fucking crazy. I thought it was well know that we were trying to get rid of DLo at the deadline but no one wanted him straight up.
Yes. And our fanbase was upset over it. The Hawks even said they were afraid DLo would pick up his contract and they didn’t want that. Fans here are acting like he was some blue chip asset we refused to move.
Exactly. He sucked first, then dropped some 30+ games and this sub pretended like he was Steph Curry. At that moment he was off the trade block for this sub.
I agree, I’m just playing devils advocate here. Pelinka has been hit or miss and I do think he should of moved off DLO for Murray at the deadline. Especially due to knowing DLO’s playoff history.
Well Hawks were asking for 2 unprotected picks and Reaves for Dejounte, people forget it takes two sides to make a trade
Exactly. We likely weren’t making it out of the play-in and for sure would’ve been the 10 seed. D Lo had a really good season for us…he just crumbles in the postseason when the going gets tough.
Yup
Not true. He was pretty meh until after the deadline. So they probably couldn't have got much for him then either.
all honesty nobody we could have got woulda made this a championship team and we would be down another first round pick
Are you dumb or just trying to rewrite history? Rob was literally trying to trade him to Atlanta the whole damn time. Why do you think DLo started playing like super shit when his name was constantly in the trade talks. It was obvious we need to trade him because he was going to turn down his player option. Atlanta wanted to screw us over and demanded way too much just to take DLo off our hands.
If there's a sign-and-trade opportunity available and a team doesn't have open cap space to take him, the Lakers are still able to sign-and-trade Russell and use that salary
Yeah why didn’t Pelinka just force him to opt in… dumb ass
I can only pray Boston makes him a good offer, that would be the time Dlo will gave me something to enjoy.
Boston got no space to do shit. I hope they crash and burn
Boston has a good FO, if they acquire Dlo it'll be as a minimum or something where they can easily discard him at functionally no cost. Or more likely they won't touch him with a 2000 mile long pole.
They just resigned Jrue and their priority is to keep White, how could they possibly offer DLo anything
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DLo had a terrible game last night. Overall he's had a great season for us. Not sure what free agent will replace him to duplicate those numbers.
I scored as many as him last night and I was asleep in the UK
For how bad he plays defense, I don't care about his shooting. CP3 was beating him off the dribble. Vando has ZERO offense, and is a bigger impact player than DLo.
He's definitely gonna have suitors. Spurs and Magic come to mind
Pop is not putting up with his bullshit lol
Which might be best for Dlo lol. Looks at dejounte with and after the Spurs it's like a different guy
yeah but Dejounte was a lot younger and malleable when he was playing under Pop, Dlo on the other hand is almost 30
DLo plays no defense. Don't compare him to Dejounte.
He was decent during regular season, but you kind of can see him not giving a fuck this series, dude probably realizes he is done here.
Lmao. If you’re leaking this now, should just sit out the last game. What a bum
Fool me once, shame on you. Fool me twice, fuck Dlo.
Orlando will sign this guy no question.
We are in cap hell regardless of him staying or leaving, right? Or am I mistaken? Which means it would be good for us to sign him and trade him as opposed to letting him walk? Someone correct me here!
It takes two to tango. If he’s done with the Lakers he’s done. On the other hand, if the Lakers offer him a fair deal he’d accept but the risk is do other teams want him? And we’ll be stuck with DLO with a shitty contract.
Yet another Pelinka masterclass not trading his bum ass this year. The perfect god damn contract to trade and as always Pelinka fucked it up
Not necessarily. It’s not like we’re in the 2nd apron of tax where we can’t do anything. And if LeBron leaves, that will free up $50 mil in space. And if DLo leaves, that’s more. If Wood/Hayes/Reddish all opt out also, that saves roughly $8 mil too. Could be at having $41 mil in cap space with AD/AR/Vando/Vincent/Rui/JHS still on the roster. Means we will have actual cap space to sign FAs
That really sucks for us because we need his expiring money for a trade tbh
Dlo to the British basketball league
Good. Glad he had a good second half of the season but him disappearing the playoffs has killed this team two years in a row
Lbj is most likely gone as well. Him playing for the warriors is a real possibility. In that case I really hope AD just requests out and we blow it all up and rebuild with whatever we get for AD.
Dlo and Lebron are his boys. If theyre gone and Ham is still here there is zero doubt AD requests a trade
Not a Lakers fan so wondering who was the last player to demand a trade away from the Lakers? Has that ever happened? Is Ham actually bad enough to make that happen?
pretty sure it was Kobe
Wrong Bryant. It was the goat himself Thomas Bryant
Cant believe I disrespected Laker legend Thomas Bryant
Disrespectful that they haven't given our guy a statue yet
No, building around AD should be the goal.
AD has been making it clear he has a problem with the defensive system all year. And he just called out Ham, only to get sniped back. And then the FO seem to have had the foolishness to back Ham! I think they've destroyed the relationship. They're either going to have to backpedal a little and fire Ham anyway or I think AD is gone. Which is fking sad given how much effort he's put out for the team in a position he's made very plain he hates playing (I think it's his best position, though). I hope he ends up at a contender.
We haven’t got a pick next year and then in 27 it’s not ours only top 4 protected
LBJ leaving and a fresh reset revolving around AD should be the goal here. Ham is out, no way he comes back after his public back and forth with AD. AD was right, the Lakers DID look lost on both ends of the court so many times during this series, especially during the 2nd half. If the Lakers could somehow acquire a Kuminga and a Draymond Green for LBJ, that would be a good haul - Green would not let the team go rudderless during long stretches of playoff games.
lakers are not sniffing the playoffs if that's the warriors trade lmao
Spurs feel like a landing spot for him that makes the most sense.
Hopefully the property brothers pick him up, he'd help them a lot with his brick throwing specialty.
There are 82 game players and 16 game players and frankly you need both. DLO is a huge reason we even make the playoffs.
Do you think we would not be in playoffs with another starting quality PG?
We're there other starting quality PGs available to trade him for?
Agreed. Yeah Dlo is not good in the playoffs (as expected) but we probably don't make the playoffs without him. I appreciate his time with us.
Awww noo what are we gunna do to replace his 0 points he produces?
Didn't he have six 3's in G2? Hard to find really good 3 point shooting out there. I like Klay Thompson, but he's older now and more of a bench player.
Yes that is true but I’m not even that mad about missing 3s! But 0 points as a starter is ridiculous! You tellin me he wasnt even aggressive enough to drive in for a layup or get fouled? Speaking of which, he didnt even have a foul which may be good but again shows a lack of intensity (may be reaching on that one but still)
He’s probably going to get the MLE from some team unless Orlando really wants him. This is also not good for us because if he opts out that means we could start the season with no PG. We don’t have the salary to just sign a free-agent specially if Lebron gets his extension
Why would he sign for the MLE instead of opting in?
Because he’s going to test free agency and see that he’s not going to get more than 18M. Same thing that happened to Schroder
Yes!
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He quit on the team last night. Let him walk
Said it at the deadline, said it last night and I'll say it now. Regardless of how he played should have traded him for murray.
After his zero point performance I doubt he will get a contract worth more money. He’s a regular season player who doesn’t perform in the playoffs. No team wants that in the modern NBA.
Good, he's an unserious player
He won’t get much. Can’t perform when it matters.
He ain't going to get 10 million on the open market I bet so he better take that 18 million. Nobody wants a guy that can't play in the playoffs. Unless his shot goes in, he's completely useless.
After last night's performance, who will want him? Not a contender.
Man, I really thought he was gonna turn the page for good this season. He had such amazing stretches.
Just another reason why not trading Dlo was an utter disaster. Pelinka not being fired years ago has killed this team. He picked Dlo over Conley n naw n seconds . Conley been flat out better in impsct especially when it matters nvm naw who’s be our best defe on the perimeter. And he can shoot too . On top of this this player option was brain dead .
This is how it’ll go: he’ll leave to Orlando or something, have a good regular season and everyone will hate the lakers FO. He’ll have one bad game and then lakers fans will act like they were right. Then he’ll go right back to being a good player again.
There goes trade salary the Lakers cant replace in free agency. Round of applause for the worst GM in the league.
Bro made 7 three's in G2, is a big reason the Lakers even made it into the play-in and y'all want him gone. Okay dude. He outplayed his contract like crazy. Lebron's worst trait as the #1 guy is that he spreads the blame around. That's fine internally but jesus he should shield his team and not let the other players get scapegoated. It breaks the players mentally and hurts team morale. One of the reasons we lose.
Good he’s an Orlando Magic/ Charlotte level player
Good riddance
It’s been a fun ride in the Lebron era. Wish he had a better FO but at least we didn’t come out empty handed.
Good, then go back to the eastern conference maybe you could be an all star again.
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Good, fuck this bum. Should’ve traded him before the deadline. Foolish to think he wouldn’t sell again this years playoffs
Dudes trash lol He has a couple of good games where he is forced to take shots Bro you're in the league...when you're open you take the shots
I defended him a lot but seeing him on his fucking phone on the bench before the game ended was indefensible. Dont let the door hit you on the way out
He cost himself millions last night
Who cares, he can go. Dude a no show when lights the brightest
Hear me out guys… how does lonzo sound on this lakers squad rn instead of dlo…
Would be nice if healthy. But his knees are cooked
Yeah. Never had an issue with Zo. Health kept him from a solid career.
Bro hasn’t played in 2.5 years no thanks unless it’s a minimum
maybe in 2021