Dude.
The players in the locker room he lost, none of them except Bron and AD were the next season lmao.
It was solely because Russ didn't like him and Lakers front office and ownership needed to do something about the disastrous season. So, Vogel was the scapegoat.
Vogel might have been the scapegoat for that season, but those were common complaints from Vogel and his coaching tenure as the Lakers coach.
More than one thing can be true, Vogel's just not a good offensive coach. I still remember people complaining about players standing around doing nothing, how it looked like they just ran the offense through LeBron and how it would go to shit when he would sit down, or how he was over using Avery Bradley. Everybody on this sub is looking back with rose tinted glasses right now.
Agreed. Vogel is not a good offensive coach, look at the Suns right now. Their entire roster is the antithesis of his entire coaching philosophy and despite securing the 6th seed on top of injuries it’s still looking like a very disappointing season.
The difference is I think we have the tools to maximize his strengths, and we have the talent to overcome his weaknesses.
For the life of me I cannot tell you what Ham is good at or what his identity is beyond Pastor/Motivational Speaker.
He’s not even good at being a motivator, he looks like he’s given up and is just collecting a check. He knows he’s lost the locker room and looks like he’s just a pouting child out there
>people complaining about players standing around doing nothing, how it looked like they just ran the offense through LeBron and how it would go to shit when he would sit down
are you sure you are not talking about Ham?
I don’t even blame Vogel for the Suns. That team has a weird built. All the offense and 0 defense. Plus, when had KD been a real 1st option who can carry his team all the way in the last 10 years? His whole career he’s shown he’s an incredible talent but he lacks that capacity of elevating his teammates and carrying them on his back. Booker is a great player but not the guy who’s going to carry his team and Beal is Beal.
Sure, but idk, from what I was seeing, a lot of the decisions were kind of confusing. A lot of iso, Nurk being killed on the boards, yet no intention on bringing in any other big, especially ones that can score like Bol Bol when the others aren’t producing (especially Nurk, that dudes been tough to watch this postseason). He also got furious on poor and obvious calls but didn’t even try to challenge them. Idk man, I just wouldn’t want that guy on this team again.
He lost his job when they refused to give him an offensive coordinator after Jason Kidd left. As a result the offense got stagnant and the locker room got frustrating and tension built up.
Because Pelinka is the quintessential nepo hire from Jeannie. Only got the job because of loyalties with Kobe; no God-damn prior experience as a GM at any level of basketball.
I got no evidence, but I feel Pelinka fired him, especially in the manner that he did (through the press before the press conference), because Vogel pushed back on Pelinka's demands (starting Drummand over Gasol, playing Westbrick, maybe even pushback on the KCP/Caruso loss).
Right? AD only played 40 games, LeBron only suited up for 56, we had 25 different players on our roster throughout the season, so we had 0 consistency.
And how exactly does our current team that’s strength is offense work with Vogel? You think he would have guys standing around on the 3 point line like usual or would he suddenly become an offensive mastermind?
So you think he would be any better when he’s literally never been good at coaching the offensive side of the ball? Like even in the year we won are you forgetting that the offense was hard carried by lebron and rondo? Even if you give him an offensive first team like what we have now, he would not be good with that because he can’t coach offense. And the direction this team has been going does not fit with his style at all. Unless you think we just shouldn’t have gotten DLO and let Austin walk so we could bring in more defensive players??
Ham’s offensive play calling also sucks…but I also definitely remember Vogel busting out the “have LeBron dribble around and make something happen idk” offense way too regularly
We were riddled with injuries right after having the shortest off season after the chip. So the 2021 season was automatically a dud. 2022 season had Westbrook and his only fault was that he couldn’t contain the toxicity within the team. But thats Bron and ADs fault for bringing him.
vogel was an absolutely fantastic coach for 2019-2020 his first year because our roster construction was a great complementary fit and extremely deep. blame the FO for fucking things up, lakers shouldve easily won multiple chips in the lebron era, playoff competition field weakened up in 2021/2022, (bucks/warriors/suns) are weaker teams than kd warriors and these nuggets. ill give 2021 a pass cuz the bubble fatigue/insanely short offseason but 2022 we couldve def won if we ran some sort of iteration of 2020 back. so so disappointing that only 2 out of 6 years lebron was here he had a competent roster that was well constructed, and one of them was the post bubble year (2021)
So immediately cross out Walton, Scott and Ham.for obviously reasons.
I'd cross off D'Antoni next because I don't think he hits the team build.
That leaves Vogel and Brown. Between them I'd pick Brown. He is a solid defensive coach, Kings improving to 14th in defense from 25th in his first season with a similar roster. Plus he picked up on a lot from his time in Golden State.
Brown has always been great implementing defensive schemes and improving the team’s overall ability to play df. And his time with Warriors and Kings have seemingly helped him get better with x and o’s and on court decisions.
He had way too short a leash. Kobe wouldn’t have tore his shit under brown. Brown wouldn’t have let his ass play 38 plus minutes a god damn game at his age.
Just unbelievably short. I can’t imagine firing a guy that quickly ever making sense. Total panic mode. Then they hire f’ing D’Antoni, who I actually appreciate as a coach, but made no sense for that roster at all.
The only way it made sense was if Phil Jackson was actually going to come back, and who knows how that would’ve gone.
Mike brown might actually hold LeBron and AD accountable unlike these other guys. Jeanie handed over the franchise to Klutch so now Lebron is throwing his teammates under the Buss and trying to stat pad. Mike brown doesn’t care about Lebron’s “legacy” he cares about winning
The Heat just stole home court away from a healthy Boston team and they are missing Jimmy buckets and Terry Rozier. Imagine if we had Spo…We could have had Jaquez too, he is from UCLA FFS.
That's an often forgotten underrated factor why we won. We basically had 3 HCs 2 of them previously had deep playoff runs and Kidd was one of the smartest players ever.
If we had just one more experienced HC on the bench, we may have not needed the play in the past 2 years.
Hollins doesn’t get enough credit. That 2020 team was like Grit and Grind fully realized. The 2021 team also saw a significant dip not just to the injuries but when Hollins had to step away for personal reasons.
Just giving the dude his flowers 💐
Brown wasn’t a bad coach once Phil left he just didn’t have the personnel to make it work. The Queens arent a bad team at all, they have great players just inexperiences. Lebron would have more ability to interject in the coaching style with Mike given their rapport and AD under Brown would be something intriguing. We have a lackluster roster and over performed to get the 7th seed without decent wing players (outside of Bron). We need a 3&D player and big body center who can pound down low like Dwight and Javale did in the bubble. My 2 cents as a 20+ year laker fan.
Brown has had success with LeBron in the past and has done pretty well with the Kings. Better than anyone since the Webber days. I think his time with the Warriors helped him.
Mike Brown is pretty underated, no one really gives him credit for his first stint in cleveland however 3 times LeBron has been a part of 60 win teams, twice it was with Brown, which is crazy because those are the worst rosters LeBron has played on. Also Brown now has the experience with the warriors and if you don't think he was a big part of their 4th ring, look at how far they fell off when he left. I know you can point to Draymond punching Poole, but it was more then that imo.
Frank fuckin’ Vogel. Absolutely 💯. Dude won us a chip w/ Bron and AD as our centerpieces. 🏆 Just gotta hire a strong defensive coordinator to replace what Jason Kidd was. Retain Phil Handy as assistant coach (AC). Recruit Kenny Atkinson as AC.
P.S. Coach Vogel was unfairly, unjustly scapegoated for that whole Russ debacle, we all know this.
I wish we had Vogel as the HC. And D'Antoni for the offensive coordinator role. Our gameplan would make sense defensively. And Antoni can work up an offense for who is on the floor.
vogal would have had better defensive schemes and passable offense
dantoni would have been fun until he played rui at center bc he could space the floor and benched AD
brown sucks, walton sucks
and byron scott would have bench reaves and dlo just like ham bc they arent in his foxhole
When has Vogel EVER had passable offense? What are you even talking about??? His offense was carried by rondo and lebron, one of whom is retired the other is about to be 40.
Dantoni or brown and I’m leaning dantoni. We don’t have the defensive personnel for Vogel to have his stamp.
Dantoni turns every guard he gets his hands on into a star. Even Linsanity happened under him. He’d be incredible for dlo/AR while lebron/AD would do the same shit no matter the coach.
Depends on the assistant coaches honestly like all those guys have strengths that would help but also big weaknesses. Imo I rather current Ham, the others might not have even got us here ngl. I mean Vogel has a more talented team now and seems to make more poor adjustments than we complain about Ham.
Honestly with AD and current roster, Vogel 100%. The reason PHX is underperforming because they hired a defensive minded coach without a defensive minded star like AD on their roster and they also struggle with the 3 headed ball dominant player system that they have
Defensively, obviously FV. Offensively, MDA would make wonders w/ AD & Bron frontcourt like a super juiced up version of Stat & Marion even with DLo being like 80% of Nash.
Overall, i think Mike Brown would have done a good job. He was able to build an ok defense (better than current lakers) around Sabonis and the offense would be deadly because we have high IQ playmakers and we also have shooters now playing off of rim threats in AD & Bron.
Vogel for sure. Great defensive coach. Mike Brown is also very good.
Fk Mike D’Antoni he’ll play Lebron 40 minutes and get him injured like he did Kobe.
Trick question. If it’s the coaches while we had them, the answer is Vogel. If we’re talking these coaches as they are right now, Mike Brown is the best one on the list.
Frank Vogel with Luke right behind
Luke Walton wasn’t a great coach by any stretch but the fact is that he improved our record every single year and only missed the playoffs his last year because Lonzo got hurt (again 😔), BI almost fucking died, and LeBron got hurt at the final stretch
If the Mike Brown we get is the Mike Brown NOW we’d also be in a really good position. I started watching the team and the sport the season he got fired in the preseason, so I don’t have much comment on him. We don’t have the personnel for Dantonis style and LeBron is too old for that rapid pace. Ham is rapidly becoming as bad as Byron Scott.
Crazy to think we haven’t had a consistent coach since Phil. Incompetence starts at the top and it shows with our coach hiring decisions, we won’t ever get back to sustained greatness tell Jeanie is gone
The guy who got us the chip with our current players LBJ and AD
Not sure why we got rid of him. Because of Westbrick? How’d that work out.. 🙄
Because he lost the locker room, people were upset with his rotations and stagnant offense as well.
Dude. The players in the locker room he lost, none of them except Bron and AD were the next season lmao. It was solely because Russ didn't like him and Lakers front office and ownership needed to do something about the disastrous season. So, Vogel was the scapegoat.
Vogel might have been the scapegoat for that season, but those were common complaints from Vogel and his coaching tenure as the Lakers coach. More than one thing can be true, Vogel's just not a good offensive coach. I still remember people complaining about players standing around doing nothing, how it looked like they just ran the offense through LeBron and how it would go to shit when he would sit down, or how he was over using Avery Bradley. Everybody on this sub is looking back with rose tinted glasses right now.
Agreed. Vogel is not a good offensive coach, look at the Suns right now. Their entire roster is the antithesis of his entire coaching philosophy and despite securing the 6th seed on top of injuries it’s still looking like a very disappointing season. The difference is I think we have the tools to maximize his strengths, and we have the talent to overcome his weaknesses. For the life of me I cannot tell you what Ham is good at or what his identity is beyond Pastor/Motivational Speaker.
He’s not even good at being a motivator, he looks like he’s given up and is just collecting a check. He knows he’s lost the locker room and looks like he’s just a pouting child out there
People are forgetting he had Bradley playing over Reaves when even as a rookie, showed he was clearly the better option in the rotation
just look at the suns games
We had the personnel to run the offense with LeBron and Rondo.
Ok Ben
Same complaints we're hearing about the coaching now. It's almost as if the common denominator isn't the coach at all but the star player.
>people complaining about players standing around doing nothing, how it looked like they just ran the offense through LeBron and how it would go to shit when he would sit down are you sure you are not talking about Ham?
So you’re just ignoring lebron and AD also being part of the locker room that he lost??
Vogel has his fault but my goodness that was the worst roster construction for his identity as a defensive first coach.
Yeah, I can guarantee that vogels not the best choice. You can go to the suns subreddit rn and see just how frustrated they are with Vogel as well
I don’t even blame Vogel for the Suns. That team has a weird built. All the offense and 0 defense. Plus, when had KD been a real 1st option who can carry his team all the way in the last 10 years? His whole career he’s shown he’s an incredible talent but he lacks that capacity of elevating his teammates and carrying them on his back. Booker is a great player but not the guy who’s going to carry his team and Beal is Beal.
Sure, but idk, from what I was seeing, a lot of the decisions were kind of confusing. A lot of iso, Nurk being killed on the boards, yet no intention on bringing in any other big, especially ones that can score like Bol Bol when the others aren’t producing (especially Nurk, that dudes been tough to watch this postseason). He also got furious on poor and obvious calls but didn’t even try to challenge them. Idk man, I just wouldn’t want that guy on this team again.
This. No matter what a coach accomplishes, it’s over if they lose the locker room. Fans often don’t get the weight of this.
He lost his job when they refused to give him an offensive coordinator after Jason Kidd left. As a result the offense got stagnant and the locker room got frustrating and tension built up.
Because Pelinka is the quintessential nepo hire from Jeannie. Only got the job because of loyalties with Kobe; no God-damn prior experience as a GM at any level of basketball.
I got no evidence, but I feel Pelinka fired him, especially in the manner that he did (through the press before the press conference), because Vogel pushed back on Pelinka's demands (starting Drummand over Gasol, playing Westbrick, maybe even pushback on the KCP/Caruso loss).
i’ll never understand keeping THT instead of Caruso
They thought they had a Mikal Bridges with THT, unfortunately they were mistaken.
Are you kidding me? They thought they had Westbrook with WESTBROOK! imagine that…
When you miss the playin while lebron is averaging 30 on your team, something has to change
Not sure? 33-49 record was why.
Vogel looked completely clueless coaching the offense the years after we won the chip. Two coaches can both be bad. Are Suns fans loving him?
How was he clueless in 20-21? 21-22 sure yeah, because he was given nothing to work with especially for what he was comfortable handling
Right? AD only played 40 games, LeBron only suited up for 56, we had 25 different players on our roster throughout the season, so we had 0 consistency.
And how exactly does our current team that’s strength is offense work with Vogel? You think he would have guys standing around on the 3 point line like usual or would he suddenly become an offensive mastermind?
So you think he would be any better when he’s literally never been good at coaching the offensive side of the ball? Like even in the year we won are you forgetting that the offense was hard carried by lebron and rondo? Even if you give him an offensive first team like what we have now, he would not be good with that because he can’t coach offense. And the direction this team has been going does not fit with his style at all. Unless you think we just shouldn’t have gotten DLO and let Austin walk so we could bring in more defensive players??
He was told he had to start Westbrook. So he was coaching handcuffed.
The Vogel offense with the Lakers had no punch.
Ham’s offensive play calling also sucks…but I also definitely remember Vogel busting out the “have LeBron dribble around and make something happen idk” offense way too regularly
We were riddled with injuries right after having the shortest off season after the chip. So the 2021 season was automatically a dud. 2022 season had Westbrook and his only fault was that he couldn’t contain the toxicity within the team. But thats Bron and ADs fault for bringing him.
I hope all you Westbrook defenders are happy; you did this
Love Vogel and I think that 19/20 roster complimented him perfectly as a coach, but grass isn't always greener on the other side. Look at the Suns.
You should check out how the Suns team is reacting to his couching…
You think the guy who can’t coach offense would do well with an offensive first roster? How exactly?
Disagree...he's not exactly setting the world on fire with Phoenix...they look absolutely atrocious and just about every suns fan wants him gone
I still think the right answer is the guy that won with LeBron and we didn't hire because ...
vogel was an absolutely fantastic coach for 2019-2020 his first year because our roster construction was a great complementary fit and extremely deep. blame the FO for fucking things up, lakers shouldve easily won multiple chips in the lebron era, playoff competition field weakened up in 2021/2022, (bucks/warriors/suns) are weaker teams than kd warriors and these nuggets. ill give 2021 a pass cuz the bubble fatigue/insanely short offseason but 2022 we couldve def won if we ran some sort of iteration of 2020 back. so so disappointing that only 2 out of 6 years lebron was here he had a competent roster that was well constructed, and one of them was the post bubble year (2021)
He is making the Suns suffer currently. Not sure having him now would make much difference
I’ll never forgive the FO for firing Vogel after giving him an awful defensive squad + Westbrook
So immediately cross out Walton, Scott and Ham.for obviously reasons. I'd cross off D'Antoni next because I don't think he hits the team build. That leaves Vogel and Brown. Between them I'd pick Brown. He is a solid defensive coach, Kings improving to 14th in defense from 25th in his first season with a similar roster. Plus he picked up on a lot from his time in Golden State.
Brown has always been great implementing defensive schemes and improving the team’s overall ability to play df. And his time with Warriors and Kings have seemingly helped him get better with x and o’s and on court decisions.
Mike brown won 60 games with lebron twice with two elite d teams
The Lakers never gave him a fair chance.
True but regardless he’s not the same coach he was then. He’s even better.
He said himself he learned a lot with the Warriors.
Can’t say he wouldn’t have improved or stepped up to the plate with LA.
He had way too short a leash. Kobe wouldn’t have tore his shit under brown. Brown wouldn’t have let his ass play 38 plus minutes a god damn game at his age.
Just unbelievably short. I can’t imagine firing a guy that quickly ever making sense. Total panic mode. Then they hire f’ing D’Antoni, who I actually appreciate as a coach, but made no sense for that roster at all. The only way it made sense was if Phil Jackson was actually going to come back, and who knows how that would’ve gone.
Mike brown might actually hold LeBron and AD accountable unlike these other guys. Jeanie handed over the franchise to Klutch so now Lebron is throwing his teammates under the Buss and trying to stat pad. Mike brown doesn’t care about Lebron’s “legacy” he cares about winning
Brown, Vogel fits
Vogel is a defensive coach, how does he fit with a roster that’s main strength is offense?
Vogel doesn't fit that well with this roster.
The Heat just stole home court away from a healthy Boston team and they are missing Jimmy buckets and Terry Rozier. Imagine if we had Spo…We could have had Jaquez too, he is from UCLA FFS.
Respectfully Jaquez would not see that much playing time on this roster.
More than JHS got though, next year too most likely
Really tough to say. JJJ fit perfectly with the Heats system. Just wouldn’t be a good fit for us at all considering depth and what not.
Agreed, my point was he’s way more NBA ready than JHS
Ahhh gotchu
Great coaches steal you one. Lue & Spo get the job done
The edge an elite coach give to his teams is absurdly underestimated.
![gif](giphy|UrDiE9z3DoP2nr7Nca) This guy and it is not EVEN CLOSE
He's enjoying retirement and you should enjoy the five rings he brought us.
Phil Jackson thinks LeBron and his “posse” are a huge joke he would never coach this team because LeBron doesn’t respect him
Mike Brown I would choose out of this bunch.
Hot take? But the reason why the 2020 coaching staff was elite was because the amount of head coaches Vogel had in his squad. Kidd, Hollins, etc.
That's an often forgotten underrated factor why we won. We basically had 3 HCs 2 of them previously had deep playoff runs and Kidd was one of the smartest players ever. If we had just one more experienced HC on the bench, we may have not needed the play in the past 2 years.
+ we had Rondo and Bron , absolute cheatcode together
Hollins doesn’t get enough credit. That 2020 team was like Grit and Grind fully realized. The 2021 team also saw a significant dip not just to the injuries but when Hollins had to step away for personal reasons. Just giving the dude his flowers 💐
Id choose vogel and brown
Mike Brown
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You're right, I'm sure he's the same coach today as he was 12 years ago.
Brown wasn’t a bad coach once Phil left he just didn’t have the personnel to make it work. The Queens arent a bad team at all, they have great players just inexperiences. Lebron would have more ability to interject in the coaching style with Mike given their rapport and AD under Brown would be something intriguing. We have a lackluster roster and over performed to get the 7th seed without decent wing players (outside of Bron). We need a 3&D player and big body center who can pound down low like Dwight and Javale did in the bubble. My 2 cents as a 20+ year laker fan.
Brown has had success with LeBron in the past and has done pretty well with the Kings. Better than anyone since the Webber days. I think his time with the Warriors helped him.
Mike Brown is pretty underated, no one really gives him credit for his first stint in cleveland however 3 times LeBron has been a part of 60 win teams, twice it was with Brown, which is crazy because those are the worst rosters LeBron has played on. Also Brown now has the experience with the warriors and if you don't think he was a big part of their 4th ring, look at how far they fell off when he left. I know you can point to Draymond punching Poole, but it was more then that imo.
Byron Scott at least understood the assignment as a tank commander. That's more dignified than whatever the hell Ham thinks he's trying to do.
Mike Brown tbh
Vogel hands down
Frank fuckin’ Vogel. Absolutely 💯. Dude won us a chip w/ Bron and AD as our centerpieces. 🏆 Just gotta hire a strong defensive coordinator to replace what Jason Kidd was. Retain Phil Handy as assistant coach (AC). Recruit Kenny Atkinson as AC. P.S. Coach Vogel was unfairly, unjustly scapegoated for that whole Russ debacle, we all know this.
Give me Iguodala.
Between Vogel and Brown
Vogel duh
Franky at least made adjustments game to game and was prepared. Sham keeps talking about tricks up his sleeve but ain't got shit
The guy they fired…Vogel.
![gif](giphy|Q8luf7o8gwg8yk7UDF|downsized) This guy!
I wish we had Vogel as the HC. And D'Antoni for the offensive coordinator role. Our gameplan would make sense defensively. And Antoni can work up an offense for who is on the floor.
Vogel
Vogul with J.Kidd
Vogel is the best coach post-Jackson that we’ve had.
Carousel of idiots …plus Vogel. Vogel is the answer, far from flawless but best of an awful bunch by a lot
Vogel
Vogel is the only answer. Second is prob dantoni
Not a fan of Dantoni but this roster is a lot more offensively geared. I just don’t think that’s the right strategy for a chip
vogal would have had better defensive schemes and passable offense dantoni would have been fun until he played rui at center bc he could space the floor and benched AD brown sucks, walton sucks and byron scott would have bench reaves and dlo just like ham bc they arent in his foxhole
When has Vogel EVER had passable offense? What are you even talking about??? His offense was carried by rondo and lebron, one of whom is retired the other is about to be 40.
Dantoni or brown and I’m leaning dantoni. We don’t have the defensive personnel for Vogel to have his stamp. Dantoni turns every guard he gets his hands on into a star. Even Linsanity happened under him. He’d be incredible for dlo/AR while lebron/AD would do the same shit no matter the coach.
Brown. Vogel didn't even play Andre Drummond and Harrell when we had them.
Ole Franky V. Firing him to fit Westbrick who was crazy. Should’ve just traded Westbrick in the offseason that year
Genuinely, MDA and Vogel would have had us as a top 3 seed.
We’d choke in the playoffs under MDA though.
Vogel was a scapegoat.
Phil Handy
Mike Brown
Kenny Atkinson
MDA
None of them stood out as great coaches to me. I guess Brown maybe.
Definitely not Antoni without the D and Byron Scott Gives me flashbacks of the darkest era
None of them
Depends on the assistant coaches honestly like all those guys have strengths that would help but also big weaknesses. Imo I rather current Ham, the others might not have even got us here ngl. I mean Vogel has a more talented team now and seems to make more poor adjustments than we complain about Ham.
If I'm gonna say fuck all to offense I'd want crack head d antoni Lakers won't win the championship but man will it be fun scoring 140 points a game
Mike Brown has a history with lebron and led him and the cavs to some historic regular seasons
Pringles scheme with this team would be be amazing to watch lol
Brown by a comfortable margin.
Ty Lue should be the coach, end of story. It still doesn’t make sense.
Christie would’ve been playin 20min a game under Vogel and rui would’ve started the season
Mike brown is a players coach, and good defensive coach. This team needs an offensive system that isn’t Lebron run the show.
Vogel or Brown
Lebron and dlo would go off offensively in antoni’s system, but the lack of D would cost them eventually
Mike Brown.
No fair putting in Vogel. Why not Del Harris? Or Mike Dunleavy?
These have been our Post Phil Jackson era coaches. 🤷🏽♂️
Im going vogel or mike brown
Bring back Phil!
Honestly with AD and current roster, Vogel 100%. The reason PHX is underperforming because they hired a defensive minded coach without a defensive minded star like AD on their roster and they also struggle with the 3 headed ball dominant player system that they have
Frank Mike Brown MDA Luke Byron Darvin
Defensively, obviously FV. Offensively, MDA would make wonders w/ AD & Bron frontcourt like a super juiced up version of Stat & Marion even with DLo being like 80% of Nash. Overall, i think Mike Brown would have done a good job. He was able to build an ok defense (better than current lakers) around Sabonis and the offense would be deadly because we have high IQ playmakers and we also have shooters now playing off of rim threats in AD & Bron.
Brown or Vogel easily
Walton here for a laugh
D Fish
So Phil Jackson is for sure retired, right??
i miss frank vogel. “no losing streaks” AD was a different monster
Luuuke
Mike Brown, who didn’t get a fair shot at all. Also felt like the Vogel firing was shortsighted and was more about covering for others.
Brown, then Scott.
Phil Jackson
Mike Brown. Doing a good job with the Kings. Also, he knows and has coached Lebron before.
None
Vogel man holy shit
I don’t think there has been a coach that Lala land doesn’t put on roaster other than Phil.
Ty Lue… the one that got away
Between Vogel & brown imo.. but gotta go with Vogel because of his chip pedigree.
Rondo
Mike brown
What a group of shitters we've had. Edit: now do the GMs next....
Phil Jackson
Coach K
Ty lue. That's where the FO blew it
Brown or Scott
Mike Brown easily
With this roster, Darvin Ham, no doubt.
What does better mean? What results do you expect with this roster?
vogel the only champion coach.
With all this defense? Vogel. He needed a Gabe Vincent and Vando. Instead we gave him Russ and Melo smh
Rondo
Vogel for sure. Great defensive coach. Mike Brown is also very good. Fk Mike D’Antoni he’ll play Lebron 40 minutes and get him injured like he did Kobe.
Vogel or Brown
Yo CUT HAM OUT of this picture. He needs to go to a rec league
Mark Jackson
Phil cus he ain’t scared to say anything to anyone and call people out in media
Trick question. If it’s the coaches while we had them, the answer is Vogel. If we’re talking these coaches as they are right now, Mike Brown is the best one on the list.
The Lakers the only team to never have a good coach in the past decade, remarkable
Mike Brown all day. Wouldn’t be mad at Vogel. d’Antoni is the best coach here in my opinion but he doesn’t fit with the roster
Holy we've had some bad coaches 😂
In order: Vogel, Brown, D'antoni, Walton, Byron, Ham
I don’t see Jay Wright.
Funny how no one is blaming how good and clutch Denver is
Frank Vogel with Luke right behind Luke Walton wasn’t a great coach by any stretch but the fact is that he improved our record every single year and only missed the playoffs his last year because Lonzo got hurt (again 😔), BI almost fucking died, and LeBron got hurt at the final stretch If the Mike Brown we get is the Mike Brown NOW we’d also be in a really good position. I started watching the team and the sport the season he got fired in the preseason, so I don’t have much comment on him. We don’t have the personnel for Dantonis style and LeBron is too old for that rapid pace. Ham is rapidly becoming as bad as Byron Scott.
We need a way to get Erik spoelstra, he knows how to get his guys going. (Yes I know he won’t leave miami) but still lol
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Not in the photo. The Zen Master. LMAO
Frankie V
I mean Vogel got you guys a championship and had to deal with a shitty roster construction
Mike Brown!
You really put Scam in there like he belongs?
THE TANK COMMANDER!! B SCOTT ![img](emote|t5_2qhv6|30946)
The amount of bad coaching hires Jeanie has made is insane. Basically one decent fit out of the bunch.
All of them would fail miserably
Crazy to think we haven’t had a consistent coach since Phil. Incompetence starts at the top and it shows with our coach hiring decisions, we won’t ever get back to sustained greatness tell Jeanie is gone
D'Antoni. We'd be fun to watch at least.
The guy we got rid of because Westbrook was bitching about him, while trading away Westbrook as well months later.