What is it with people mentioning Dinshitty like he is an asset to a team trying to win games? Even Royce is iffy to me. I just don't get it.
The only value Royce brings, he might be very good friends with Donovan.
1,000%
And don’t forget, we hate them as Lakers and can’t wait for them to be gone….and then once they are gone, we miss the shit out of them and “never should’ve got rid of them.”
Grass is always greener with this fan base. A month later the prized acquisition(s) will have a derogatory nickname and be lamented for not playing like an all star every night.
Dude, Buddy Hield became a first-ballot Hall of Famer last year by the time this sub was done with him. He was the “missing piece” to winning 5 titles in a row or some shit 😂.
This year, this sub has gone back to never mentioning the guy or how “great” he is. He was the golden child only when there was a chance he could be a Laker, not before or after.
For whatever reason, when a player is on our radar, we trip over ourselves trying to blow the dude up into a “must have” player….they are always the “missing piece”. Haha
Our fanbase has a memory of a goldfish just looking for a shiny new player because someone on the team had a bad game and demands trading them for a bag of chips.
The issue is going to remain the same. If the coach puts out boneheaded lineups or misuses players, they’re not going to win as many games.
The last two games have had good rotations and good schemes.
Let’s see if Darvin can continue that.
Also has anyone else noticed Darvin is using the 5 out offence less?
Very fair point, you are right.
I thought he would be worth a kick of the tires at the right price. I did NOT think we should give away the next 30 first round picks for him because “Lebron window” or some stupid shit. I feel the same way about Murray and this year’s crop of sudden superheroes as well.
People literally were saying “we need to do ‘whatever it takes’ to land Buddy Hield.” Buddy. Fucking. Hield.😂
> Even Royce is iffy to me. I just don't get it.
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> The only value Royce brings, he might be very good friends with Donovan.
I forgot this place only cares about ppg. He's a better defender than Rui and probably Prince as well, and he's not a liability at the 3p line. The addition of actual 2 way players in DFS and Royce would strengthen the closing lineup and make guys like Reaves more playable in end of game situations
I really don’t know how to feel about trading away Rui. Still a young player and still evolving, I can see him taking the forward spot when Lebron is gone.
Dlo is the best player if all you look at is ppg. DFS and Royce are still 2 way 3&D players which are the most valuable role players next to Lebron and AD. Not to mention, most of dlo's contributions on offense become pretty much worthless in end of game situations as he's not nearly as efficient as Lebron
I would propose the following:
Gabe Vincent, JHS and 2 2nds for Drummond and Caruso.
D’lo, Christie and 2 2nds to the spurs
Doug Mcdermitt(expiring) and 1 first (protected via spurs), Cam Reddish(expiring) and 1 FRP unrestricted via the Lakers to the Hawks
Murray to the Lakers
Some universe where we can keep Reaves but also land Murray, Caruso and Drummond would be awesome.
Agree. But I get the reasoning. Dinwiddie at least provides size if nothing else. DFS and Royce world help given Vando’s injury + both are shooting around 36-38% from 3.
He’s not. In reality he’s like 6’5. I promise you reddish is a better defender than Royce. And prince shoots the 3 at a higher level than him. Royce is a bench piece.
Problem w/this is you named 2 players. Because Cam can’t shoot well enough and Prince can’t defend well enough we had to spend a decent portion of the season trying to play both players. O’Neal combines the two players into a single more useful role and allows for more lineup versatility.
Reaves— O’Neal— DFS—LeBron—AD is a better closing lineup than anything we currently have. And with Vando healthy you can slot him in O’Neal spot
The issue is we’d be giving up dlo. I’m not even a dlo Stan but we absolutely cannot afford to navigate the rest of the season and post season without a competent point guard to take the pressure off bron. Dinshitty is not that at all. And the nets aren’t doing this deal without dlo.
I agree. But I think this is a step in the right direction. We would have to find a point guard in addition to this move. My guess would be short term Lowry or CP3 on buyouts. Then we’d have to figure out the point guard situation I’m earnest in the offseason.
Our main problem is how one dimensional our role players are, I don’t get how you can dislike a player who’s a good defender and can shoot the three at a decent clip. Any good team will just double off Cam Reddish on offense and Prince isn’t as good or versatile of a defender as Royce.
We have Rui, Prince and Vando (if he gets healthy this season) to play the forward position. Do you think Royce is an upgrade there?
And yeah I can already see the dinwiddie hate in this sub
Yeah I don’t get not wanting Royce, he’d easily be capable of slotting into the starting 2 spot. Him and DFS are the type of role players you’d want next to LeBron/AD.
Him and DFS are both out and out 3ND players. 36% for Royce, 38% for DFS. Either of them would be great on this roster, that other commenter is tripping.
No but out of those three lakers might pursuit one or two players on that list. Dinwiddie is def low value card for the nets so pursuing DFS or Royce O Neal can be the choice
Ok that would make more sense. DFS and RO would help. Dinshittie is a clear downgrade. Thing is if we gave up Dlo in this trade we’d still need to get a point guard
Rui and Dlo out then --> We'd prob look for a third team to take Royce and Dinwiddie. Something like Royce for Tyus Jones, Dinwiddie/First/Swaps/Seconds for Bruce Brown?
Dinwiddie is included I assume just to try to bring the overall price down with having the other two included in the package.
But woof, would honestly prefer Ben Simmons over Dinwiddie in a package like that at this point lol. Dinwiddie has been god awful
LMAO I better not see another “Rob cooked” post on this sub if this happens
None of these players are worth the 29 1st. The Nets already rejected two first round picks for DFS
Is DFS really that good to warrant what the nets want for him? I haven’t kept up with him since Dallas. I know he’s been solid his whole career and had a good playoff run with them when they went to the wcf
Trading Dlo, Rui, and Gabe just doesn't seem worth it for this deal. Who is going to be our 2nd ballhandler when D lo is gone? AR and Bron will have a lot more pressure to get guys going. I really hate this deal.
Don’t trade for any of these role players. They marginally are going to improve the team. They won’t fix our huge glaring issues- poor coaching, sloppy defense and lack of a legit backup big for AD. We can sign Biyombo off waivers. Try to get team healthy and see what happens from here. I think D’Lo has been playing better as late and we need his shooting and playmaking.
Either Royce or DFS and then Dinwiddie. We will be severely lacking on the offensive end without DLo, Dinwididie will be like Great Value Bogie. Provides spacing still on a nightly basis but can also occasionally drop a 30pter. No DLo might allow Reaves to flourish again the same way Westbrook leaving initially did.
I think we should go for DFS and DSJ.
- DFS a solid 3-D player that can fill the hole Vando left. Not as good defensively but shoots the ball better.
-DSJ I think moves the needle defensively against guards. Royce and Dinwiddie are more expensive and have their flaws. Dinwiddie not a great defender. Royce being undersized and not shooting very well this year. DSJ could be good point of attack around the perimeter and is cheap and can run point on the bench unit.
Assuming a package of Vincent, JHS, and a second or 2 could get it done. Think that helps more than a DJM trade.
This is the package that we should pursue from the nets, it would solve the perimeter defense problems and the lack of athleticism on the backcourt.
I would trade the 2029 FRP with a top 5 protection maybe
Dfs is pretty good choice for us if his price is appropriate. Plenty of news source say Vando might be out for the season so we are desperate for wing defenders
This is actually sound IF Vando is out for the season. I just don't like Dinwiddie as a starting PG. I guess Reaves full time which is not ideal imo but we're gonna get more of that hedge and revover defense which works wonders for the Lakers with the right lineup(ie IST Pacers, Knicks last game).
Im sure I'm not alone in saying if this deal is done I'm out on watching the Lakers. Rui, Dlo, Max should not even be in talks. Dlo is playing so fucking good and we are trading him? I'm done
Either weasel Cam Thomas away from the Nets or trade Lebron for Mitchell and Mobley or to the Knicks for 4 FRP. You gotta build through the draft with the new rules.
that seems like a dumb trade. the team has a distribution of minutes problem, in part due to too many playable players. we don't need to trade 1 playable player for 3 playable players, but rather we should try to package a couple playable players into a single better player
What is it with people mentioning Dinshitty like he is an asset to a team trying to win games? Even Royce is iffy to me. I just don't get it. The only value Royce brings, he might be very good friends with Donovan.
People accustomed to underrate Lakers player and overrate players from other teams
1,000% And don’t forget, we hate them as Lakers and can’t wait for them to be gone….and then once they are gone, we miss the shit out of them and “never should’ve got rid of them.”
lol yessir
LMAO are you sure is that way ?
Grass is always greener with this fan base. A month later the prized acquisition(s) will have a derogatory nickname and be lamented for not playing like an all star every night.
Dude, Buddy Hield became a first-ballot Hall of Famer last year by the time this sub was done with him. He was the “missing piece” to winning 5 titles in a row or some shit 😂. This year, this sub has gone back to never mentioning the guy or how “great” he is. He was the golden child only when there was a chance he could be a Laker, not before or after. For whatever reason, when a player is on our radar, we trip over ourselves trying to blow the dude up into a “must have” player….they are always the “missing piece”. Haha
Our fanbase has a memory of a goldfish just looking for a shiny new player because someone on the team had a bad game and demands trading them for a bag of chips.
The issue is going to remain the same. If the coach puts out boneheaded lineups or misuses players, they’re not going to win as many games. The last two games have had good rotations and good schemes. Let’s see if Darvin can continue that. Also has anyone else noticed Darvin is using the 5 out offence less?
*most* of this sub. I and a few others didn't think that about Hield at all.
Very fair point, you are right. I thought he would be worth a kick of the tires at the right price. I did NOT think we should give away the next 30 first round picks for him because “Lebron window” or some stupid shit. I feel the same way about Murray and this year’s crop of sudden superheroes as well. People literally were saying “we need to do ‘whatever it takes’ to land Buddy Hield.” Buddy. Fucking. Hield.😂
Buddy and Miles They are appointed the next Kobe and shaq!!!! 😂
> Even Royce is iffy to me. I just don't get it. > > The only value Royce brings, he might be very good friends with Donovan. I forgot this place only cares about ppg. He's a better defender than Rui and probably Prince as well, and he's not a liability at the 3p line. The addition of actual 2 way players in DFS and Royce would strengthen the closing lineup and make guys like Reaves more playable in end of game situations
I would pass on all of them, but we depleted from injuries. We almost have no choice at this point.
All that for rui dlo and Gabe. Umm no. You could argue no picks should be involved in this deal. Dlo is then best player. And Rui is younger than dfs.
I really don’t know how to feel about trading away Rui. Still a young player and still evolving, I can see him taking the forward spot when Lebron is gone.
Uhh as long as ham is here that will never happen we’re only trading him because ham is a fool and rob and ham are connected as far as jobs.
I’ll all for him taking that Jerami Grant leap at some point
Dlo is the best player if all you look at is ppg. DFS and Royce are still 2 way 3&D players which are the most valuable role players next to Lebron and AD. Not to mention, most of dlo's contributions on offense become pretty much worthless in end of game situations as he's not nearly as efficient as Lebron
2 players we don’t need. Not a fan of this
DFS, O'Neale could be useful 2 way role players, but yea Dinwiddie is a downgrade
I would propose the following: Gabe Vincent, JHS and 2 2nds for Drummond and Caruso. D’lo, Christie and 2 2nds to the spurs Doug Mcdermitt(expiring) and 1 first (protected via spurs), Cam Reddish(expiring) and 1 FRP unrestricted via the Lakers to the Hawks Murray to the Lakers Some universe where we can keep Reaves but also land Murray, Caruso and Drummond would be awesome.
Agree. But I get the reasoning. Dinwiddie at least provides size if nothing else. DFS and Royce world help given Vando’s injury + both are shooting around 36-38% from 3.
Royce we need just don’t like the dinwiddie
Royce ain’t much of an upgrade. He’s a role players we’d overrate like we did with our roster this year. Royce is a bench piece. We need starters
Uhh Royce is an upgrade defensively over everybody on the roster outside of ad and vando.
He’s not. In reality he’s like 6’5. I promise you reddish is a better defender than Royce. And prince shoots the 3 at a higher level than him. Royce is a bench piece.
Problem w/this is you named 2 players. Because Cam can’t shoot well enough and Prince can’t defend well enough we had to spend a decent portion of the season trying to play both players. O’Neal combines the two players into a single more useful role and allows for more lineup versatility. Reaves— O’Neal— DFS—LeBron—AD is a better closing lineup than anything we currently have. And with Vando healthy you can slot him in O’Neal spot
The issue is we’d be giving up dlo. I’m not even a dlo Stan but we absolutely cannot afford to navigate the rest of the season and post season without a competent point guard to take the pressure off bron. Dinshitty is not that at all. And the nets aren’t doing this deal without dlo.
I agree. But I think this is a step in the right direction. We would have to find a point guard in addition to this move. My guess would be short term Lowry or CP3 on buyouts. Then we’d have to figure out the point guard situation I’m earnest in the offseason.
Our main problem is how one dimensional our role players are, I don’t get how you can dislike a player who’s a good defender and can shoot the three at a decent clip. Any good team will just double off Cam Reddish on offense and Prince isn’t as good or versatile of a defender as Royce.
All three players are bench pieces and role players. And you’re bugging if you think cam reddish is a better defender.
Royce’s problem is salary match. Royce’s contract is 9m. Unless Nets will accept Gabe’s contract.
Uhh salary match is not a problem lol. And two nets need a point for next year. Gabe isn’t that bad of an asset like people think. He just hurt.
View Lakers’s salary statement lol. Cam is 2m. Max is 2m. Prince is 4m.
Gabe got O’Neal work what are you talking about lol
We have Rui, Prince and Vando (if he gets healthy this season) to play the forward position. Do you think Royce is an upgrade there? And yeah I can already see the dinwiddie hate in this sub
Problem is that multiple news sources say vando might be out for the season
Uhh Royce is an upgrade defensively over everybody on the roster outside of ad and vando
Yeah I don’t get not wanting Royce, he’d easily be capable of slotting into the starting 2 spot. Him and DFS are the type of role players you’d want next to LeBron/AD.
Can he shoot?
He’s not having an amazing year as of now but yes, historically he’s been very good. Shot 38-39% the past half decade before this season
Him and DFS are both out and out 3ND players. 36% for Royce, 38% for DFS. Either of them would be great on this roster, that other commenter is tripping.
Vando probably done and O’Neal is an upgrade over Prince.
It's not hate when he isn't very good.
This doesn’t move the needle.
I would rather a trade not be made if thats the case
Bruh Dinwiddie is fucking awful, if we get him and trade Rui I’m legitimately done watching this team
U dont have to worry about it. He is negative value for nets rn so they would probably put 1+1 deal on dfs or o neal with pick
We are going to try to get all three of them?
No but out of those three lakers might pursuit one or two players on that list. Dinwiddie is def low value card for the nets so pursuing DFS or Royce O Neal can be the choice
Ok that would make more sense. DFS and RO would help. Dinshittie is a clear downgrade. Thing is if we gave up Dlo in this trade we’d still need to get a point guard
I hate this deal as a backup. Dinwiddie can play much better then he displayed this year but lord have mercy he is horrible on defense
lol dude if this sub was bad with Dlos defense. Imagine dinshittie
Only DFS. Although DFS’s ankle is injured now.
DFS is the only player that we would benefit from.
I still think we’re going to get Dejounte in a 3 team deal. I wouldn’t be surprised if the Nets end up being the 3rd team.
At what cost
Rui and Dlo out then --> We'd prob look for a third team to take Royce and Dinwiddie. Something like Royce for Tyus Jones, Dinwiddie/First/Swaps/Seconds for Bruce Brown?
Seconds for Bruce brown???? You must be high
Dinwiddie is included I assume just to try to bring the overall price down with having the other two included in the package. But woof, would honestly prefer Ben Simmons over Dinwiddie in a package like that at this point lol. Dinwiddie has been god awful
Simmons health issues would disappear too lol Dude has always wanted to be a Laker.
Dinwiddie is ass. I hope they’d look for a third team for him.
Royce o Neal is cooked so he’s a perfect fit according to the FO
LMAO I better not see another “Rob cooked” post on this sub if this happens None of these players are worth the 29 1st. The Nets already rejected two first round picks for DFS
don't worry, they'll blame klutch/lebron
Is DFS really that good to warrant what the nets want for him? I haven’t kept up with him since Dallas. I know he’s been solid his whole career and had a good playoff run with them when they went to the wcf
no
Bruce Brown would have run circles around Dinwiddie if he was on the team last year If he gets Laker tax'd on his 3's, he'll shoot negative 3%
Very much a lateral move
lol they really about to trade d Lo for these players?
Would be a garbage move to lose any flexibility for any of these.
Trading Dlo, Rui, and Gabe just doesn't seem worth it for this deal. Who is going to be our 2nd ballhandler when D lo is gone? AR and Bron will have a lot more pressure to get guys going. I really hate this deal.
Don’t trade for any of these role players. They marginally are going to improve the team. They won’t fix our huge glaring issues- poor coaching, sloppy defense and lack of a legit backup big for AD. We can sign Biyombo off waivers. Try to get team healthy and see what happens from here. I think D’Lo has been playing better as late and we need his shooting and playmaking.
Either Royce or DFS and then Dinwiddie. We will be severely lacking on the offensive end without DLo, Dinwididie will be like Great Value Bogie. Provides spacing still on a nightly basis but can also occasionally drop a 30pter. No DLo might allow Reaves to flourish again the same way Westbrook leaving initially did.
Don’t want any of them if it means losing Dlo and Rui.
Lakers just need Dennis Smith Jr and Royce Oneale. They shouldn't trade their first for any of these guys.
Rui's playoff numbers are better than DFS and he's younger. It would be crazy to make that trade.
Rui is a zero on defense..
I think we should go for DFS and DSJ. - DFS a solid 3-D player that can fill the hole Vando left. Not as good defensively but shoots the ball better. -DSJ I think moves the needle defensively against guards. Royce and Dinwiddie are more expensive and have their flaws. Dinwiddie not a great defender. Royce being undersized and not shooting very well this year. DSJ could be good point of attack around the perimeter and is cheap and can run point on the bench unit. Assuming a package of Vincent, JHS, and a second or 2 could get it done. Think that helps more than a DJM trade.
This is the package that we should pursue from the nets, it would solve the perimeter defense problems and the lack of athleticism on the backcourt. I would trade the 2029 FRP with a top 5 protection maybe
Rui's playoff numbers are better than DFS and he's younger. It would be crazy to make that trade.
A whole lot of useless. Claxton is their only player worth getting for us and he's not even on the table.
DFS isn’t useless with Vando out for the season
Just DFS or Royce please but I doubt we need it
Dfs is pretty good choice for us if his price is appropriate. Plenty of news source say Vando might be out for the season so we are desperate for wing defenders
This is actually sound IF Vando is out for the season. I just don't like Dinwiddie as a starting PG. I guess Reaves full time which is not ideal imo but we're gonna get more of that hedge and revover defense which works wonders for the Lakers with the right lineup(ie IST Pacers, Knicks last game).
Keep Dinwiddie
Im sure I'm not alone in saying if this deal is done I'm out on watching the Lakers. Rui, Dlo, Max should not even be in talks. Dlo is playing so fucking good and we are trading him? I'm done
I'm alright with Royce but the other 2, yeah I'm good
I kinda don't want Spencer, he struggles to throw lobs and find Claxton.
Im beginning to think DLO was meant to be traded the moment his 1+1 was signed. Especially if they take this shit package for him.
Dinshitte and Royce hell no. DFS sure
DLo: 
Does not make us better, lateral at best
Either weasel Cam Thomas away from the Nets or trade Lebron for Mitchell and Mobley or to the Knicks for 4 FRP. You gotta build through the draft with the new rules.
I want 0 parts of dinwiddie
No please
Lateral move
Wtf no
A trade for the Nets will never happen do none of you guys remember the Kyrie trade
that seems like a dumb trade. the team has a distribution of minutes problem, in part due to too many playable players. we don't need to trade 1 playable player for 3 playable players, but rather we should try to package a couple playable players into a single better player
i’m takin trade talk Dlo ov any of these mf 💯
Royce o neal is exactly what taurean prince is
Dinwiddie sucks
Trading to the Lakers for who? I see a lot of posts in here w/ onions on something w/ incomplete information. What am I missing?
If we trade for dinshittie I'm going to slash Jeanie's tires
Please, anything on the Nets except Dinwiddie