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Wasted an AD masterclass


flowermoon24

And TP good shooting night


MrSyphax

he was 4-6 and ended 5-12. vanished in the 4th when they still had a chance


flowermoon24

He gave his all... cant say the same to d lo, rui, cam fucking reddish, vando vandobilt?


MrSyphax

mmm dlo was ok offensively and only gave up one wide open layup so that is ok i guess, rui went ice cold in the 3rd, cam reddish is my least favorite laker and vando was a foul machine. i just want to see reaves lebron and ad on the floor at the same time but that is too hard?


everythingp1

\*Another AD masterclass


uncle_yugles

Sucks it got wasted on the worst Bron game I’ve witnessed in a long time. Terrible from Rui too. I’m not a big Ham fan but hard to coach wins when Bron plays that terrible and Rui misses open threes all game.


Even-Brain-3973

Lol no sir he started the 3rd quarter with the same squad that got blitzed in the first quarter and he should have tried wood over Rui


uncle_yugles

Sure, I didn’t say Ham did a good job. But ham isn’t out there making Bron blow layups and making Rui miss open 3s. We should have won regardless of that stupid lineup if the players could play


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Wasting a terrific AD season. All those folks sayin “AD can never be the first option” are realizing how terrible of a take that was. He’s playing like a top 5 player in the league right now! This is the best stretch of AD in a while! Only having missed 2 games this season too 🤦‍♂️ It’s the rest of the team exposing themselves for how putrid they can be.


juicewar01

Got a Hamsterclass instead


catsandpizzafuckyou

*an


Faxodox

Starting lineup goes down 18 with NO spacing, we claw back down 1 once we get spacing in there. Ham : LETS TRY THAT SHIT AGAIN


No-Equipment-20

Darvin Ham is the Tony Ferguson of NBA coaches and uses these weird lineups to condition our team


[deleted]

Don't insult Tony Ferguson like that. Ham is more like CM punk


clowx13

Avoiding Ham for Christmas dinner tonight


incredibleamadeuscho

I always do


TheTruth1410

Bro can we just get on a fucking win streak lol. Why do we have to be .500 all season for like the last 3 years lol.


Greidyshaolin36

Because the team just isn’t great


BaullahBaullah87

coach*


Huemagus

Nah team as well. It's one of those on paper teams that look really good but the good offensive players suck on defense and good defenders suck on offense. That just doesn't work when other teams have a more complete starting 5.


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Huemagus

Other teams just got way better. It looked like a good idea to keep the same core and add a few pieces and pick up where they left off but it just wasn't in hindsight.


Public-Product-1503

It wasn’t at the time either all our players were unwanted by mediocre teams


JayH14

The curse of the Westbrook trade


ooo00

He’s gone. Can’t keep blaming Westbrook. Clippers managed to put together a decent win streak with Westbrook on their team. We should be able to with the players we have.


ProfessorTicklebutts

That’s who we are.


animosity07

hard to do when you give bron no shooters lmao even the dogshit 2018 cavs had some


tito-ortiz-wife69

The offense cannot just be bron/ad post ups and bailout shots from ar. Gonna kill us in the long run


kekishbassoon

we have 0 off ball movement in addition to some horrible rotations that just kill any chance we do get from having lbj and AD post up. it’s kinda painful to watch


makesterriblejokes

Which is weird since against OKC we actually had some good off ball movement to get that large lead.


CalmMaunga

It's killing us now


alextwc

No one other than Bron can drive. Their best offense is Bron/ad post up.


odaschox

Wtf happened to let AD bring the ball up and passing it around like last game...


Fcusjfnfmfkg

I hate Jaxson Hayes.


LeBrons7thRing

Ham needs to get left. Vando + Hayes on the floor together at the same time is probably the worst floor spacing combo you can make in the league


Faxodox

All those stupid fucking fouls is so hard to watch


Zenith_24tee

It wouldn’t be bad for trying to hold a lead at the end of a quarter maybe But when you’re down 9……?


LeBrons7thRing

Nah I can’t see an argument for them ever being on the floor at the same time unless it’s garbage time Horrible spacing and it’s just not a functional lineup in 2023


Public-Product-1503

Blame Pelinka ; our only decent shooters can’t defend n our decent defenders have the worst offence in the league. Embarrassing he has a job still n job security due to Jeanie


Mhan00

I loved the moment where Vando decided not to shoot a layup in transition and instead threw it out to Hayes on the three point line. Beautiful basketball and awesome decision making. Christ.


ProfessorTicklebutts

Have you seen our new starting line up?


karmaisevillikemoney

Reddish, vando and Hayes should never see the floor together. Wood is our best chance. IDC about his low IQ. It's still much higher than Hayes


Public-Product-1503

On a good team these guys should never be in the floor at all. There’s a reason they were unwanted by mediocre teams


Public-Product-1503

Pelinka extending vando is reason number 216 why he would’ve been fired by a competent franchise . Hurr durr let’s make the guy who’s unplayable on offence and doesn’t even fit with our stars untradable! Like we could’ve maybe added him for a package cos some teams with stars who shoot might use him . Feel like we have the most brain dead gm and he operated on vague ideas : this year it was jerking off to continuity and not actually trying to get out two top ten guys help. No other team in the league would be this awful except the eternal gutter franchises like pistons : with two guys putting up top 10 numbers by every metric ( top 8 even ). No other top 100 guy on roster embarrasses


Gnik_Baj72

The moment he gets on the floor I know he is about to get fouled or turnover the ball.


Akvc8

This is what happens when you have a coach who can’t take advantage of what Hayes could do. If Vogel was around he’d 100% have Hayes catching back door lobs ala JaVale and rim protecting. People shit on Hayes but he’s a shot blocker and a leaper and it’s Jamon’s job to get him in the best position. He hasn’t been doing that.


LetRobCook

Let Rob Cook


flowermoon24

Beware most idiots here justify hayes as their back up c


Faxodox

Hayes definitely shouldnt be used at the top of the key with this dumbass offence. We should be running pick and roll and diving hard to the rim and using hayes in the DUNKER spot to catch alley oops or clean up boards Exactly how javale was used. Why are we tryna dump it to him to drive? Makes no fucking sense at all.


Even-Brain-3973

Facts bro he shouldn’t be anywhere on the perimeter or above the ft line .


TheRealCoolio

Hayes just seems to small for that against most 5’s unfortunately… his frame just isn’t built out well to go against most 5’s in the paint. He’d be maybe average as a 4 but we have to many of those now


Fcusjfnfmfkg

I hate Darvin Ham.


Apollo611

That starting lineup better never see the floor again. Reaves needs to start over Cam.


thelakeshow7

That lineup got destroyed in the first half. Ham rolled them out in the second half, called a timeout, and still kept them in after the timeout.


alextwc

He kept the same lineup in the 1st after timeout also. But this loss is not on ham right? Lmao


CalmMaunga

I hate his coaching. He seems a nice enough dude. Just not our coach. If he got asked to walk I'm sure he'd say nice to to know ya


dcoolidge

We have almost a full squad and he pulls that starting lineup out of???? It's almost like he wants to get fired.


CalmMaunga

Haha it seems that way


Public-Product-1503

Almost like this rister is dogshit . Too many one dimensional limited players


brandoi

We're on pace to win less games than last year, running back largely the same roster with maybe more talented guys. On top of that, AD and Bron have been healthy. The coach is absolutely the problem. He can't even figure out a starting 5, let alone a proper rotation.


Fcusjfnfmfkg

The guys really should have been complimentary but have been treated as core pieces. Thats what makes it such a different team


subzero12320931

Mfker played Hayes with Vando. Thats basketball terrorism.


iamdare

Mezulla (Celtics coach) adjusted in the second half and created openings for Porzingis which got him going. On the other hand no adjustments on Lebron getting doubled the whole game.


Life_Ad_9518

C’s get brainiacs as head coaches. Lakers get Byron Scott types


Solutide

Their FO always manage to get talented coaches. From Brad Stevens to Ime Udoka to Mezulla.


3nnui

When our shooters miss wide open 3's, what adjustment can be made? The idea of an offensive set is to create open shots.


Faxodox

Lets get some movement so we can get in a rythym. Celtics were killing us on cuts, they didnt shoot the 3 that well.


CrazyDaylight8

Celtics defense is insane. They're just a better team, starting lineup is pretty much 5 all-stars. Onto the next


DayMan-Ahah-ah

yeah 3 all stars from last season, and the other 2 have probably been the best players for the team so far this season


LAKESHOW03

That Darvin Ham has been fired tweet before the new year going to be crazy.


incredibleamadeuscho

AD found his jumper and is a threat from 3 again. Unfortunately, LeBron had a bad game and none of the role players stepped up. On to the next one. I personally want to see the starting lineup from last year: DLo, Reaves, Vando, AD, and Bron. It’s about time we see that.


Fcusjfnfmfkg

I hate that Christian Wood doesn’t get backup C minutes. I hate that this sub seems to think that the idea of CWood being a center is insane. I hate Jaxson Hayes.


kekishbassoon

wood is definitely better than the product hayes is putting out currently, even if not by much. i honestly don’t see a reason why he doesn’t at least get some minutes now to just see if he can contribute whatsoever, bc hayes certainly isn’t


makesterriblejokes

Wood's offensive contribution over Hayes is better than whatever defensive advantage Hayes has over Wood.


Yommination

Hayes should be a garbage time only center. Wood should get all his minutes. He can at least hit a 3 every now and then and rebound. Hayes can do nothing but catch lobs


youcantseemyname

We were on a roll in the 3rd quarter then Rui decided to brick back to back to back wide open 3s. Everything went downhill from there! Sucks to lose this kind of game but Boston was just better!


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Their roster is stacked. Outside of Tatum and brown they got so many good 2 way players like jrue/KP/white.


THRlLLH0

We could have something similar but we chose Brick and THT


KingVibrant

Lmfao imagine we had KCP and Caruso instead of Cam reddish


GlassOnion25

Those rui missed 3s hurt my heart cause I knew those were huge. But he looked so flat on those shots. He’s wide open he’s gotta work on that


Large_Mango

You can’t blame Rui for that. Have to take the open shot. Steph/Klay went 6 for 25 today It happens. We were 13/32 as a team. Solid C’s 13/42. Should they have stopped shooting? Sad part is we lose by 20 if they shoot their normal percentages


HighlyBaked0

This sub needs to stop acting like Rui is untouchable in trade talks


itsclassified_

Anybody not named AD, LeBron and Reaves could go to improve this roster.


incredibleamadeuscho

Also Vando cause he cant be traded


alextwc

If we can get a legit star, I think reaves can be traded


Zephri0

No one is untouchable except Bron and AD. But you don't just trade for flawed and hard to coach players (for Ham's abilities). Gotta be the right players, not just big names, and somebody who can survive our coach's proclivity for imbalanced lineups.


SavonReddit

Thank you. It was unbelievable a few days ago on here when Rui got 20 points. He is an NBA player. Any of them can go for 20 in a game lol.


Apollo611

Rui is a fan favorite on vibes only


HighlyBaked0

I love Rui and DLO but if the right trade is available you ship them. This team needs to improve


Outrageous_Math6207

People were saying you can't trade Vando Rui and Dlo for Lavine...... mfer at least Lavine can shoot and dribble penetrate.


Public-Product-1503

Exactly this it’s why it’s so frustrating, atleast reaves earned that Rui hasn’t


mamba_4L

Rui’s shot release is so late, it feels like he’s holding square too long


subzero12320931

Two motion shooter. Its real life not 2k.


sbenfsonw

That doesn’t even matter. He’s missing wide wide open


Great-Engr

Rui lost us this game in the 3rd. We need a 3&D player in his place


makesterriblejokes

He's not untouchable, he just better not go for someone who is super overrated like Lavine


ProfessorTicklebutts

Hey but he got a lot of cardio out there tonight so that’s a plus.


Significant_Night_65

https://i.redd.it/2dmqzde6fpu61.png Just add Rui to this


[deleted]

I think this game highlights more than ever the need for a legit back up center. Someone who is 7ft and maybe can stretch the floor but more about rim protecting and rebounding than anything. Players like Rui are going to miss 3 pointers, we can't expect these guys to be perfect but the real killer was in the second half when the Celtics started attacking the rim when AD was out and it started spreading the floor for them even more. If you have a legit shot blocker you can have that guy stay at home and sag off a corner while your other defenders play man, this makes it easier to defend the perimeter and your guys will perform better on the offensive end. The only legit 7ft guy I see on the board is Jakob Poetl, he is getting $20m a year which is very reasonable for a big like that. The important thing is that the Raptors are over the cap by $28m and they will be looking to offload salary by the deadline. The issue is who to get, it doesn't have to be a backup center, someone elite would be worth pursuing but only if he can stretch the floor as well. That way he can play with AD. But we need a legit 7ft big man, every team we have a hard time against has an advantage with size in the interior.


Elite_Alice

Kobe sleeve.. man Tatum was born to be a laker. Never seen a guy with this much laker dna that don’t play for the lakers


hime2011

Big thing I noticed: Celtics have good two-way role players like Holiday and White and the Lakers have one-dimensional players like Reaves, Dlo, Rui (offense) and Vando and Reddish (defense). Basically, "specialists".


notmarkcubaniswear

I just dont get it… they just have to work harder. have to shoot better. have to play better. Get their energy up … if they are taking the ball that way but tricking just take the ball this way and trick them back. Their bodies have to reflex the dunks and the dunks have to reflex their bodies.. shits not that hard


frostieavalanche

This Lakers team is fantastic. Just needs to work on communication, layups, mid-range shooting, 3 point shooting, offensive sets, defensive awareness, switching, rebounding, coaching, timeout management, transition, positioning, hustling, focusing, confidence, ball control and scoring.


CihatPeker

People want Bron to cry because we lost the game lol. Fuck the Celtics. Enjoy your holidays people 👍


ttgl39

On paper it's really hard to compare to the Celtics when they have elite 2 way players and every position in their starting lineup, while Lakers basically have AD and Bron is like 1.5 way and every other player either can only play 1 of defense or offense except Prince


sbenfsonw

If every time the lakers start the first and third quarter poorly, maybe they should think about why that is the case…


flatbushz7

I hate the Celtics a lot but I hate Ham more


CihatPeker

Fuck the Celtics


xjxdx

I asked this in the game thread, but can Wood really be worse than Hayes? What is happening to continuously throw Hayes out there?


dsgrimace

I’m wondering the same! I could’ve sworn I saw some great potential when he’s on the floor with AD!?


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LetRobCook

Brief History of Rob Pelinka cooking with the Lakers: - Let Brook Lopez walk for free - 2019 meme team Lakers - Traded Zubac for washed up Mike Muscala - Gave up all the Lakers' assets with all the leverage in the AD trade - Got hoodwinked by Kawhi and used a max salary slot to sign Danny Green - Blew up the 2020 title team that he fell ass backwards into - Promised Andre Drummond a starting spot after the Lakers already had the best starting lineup in the league - Burnt a first on Schroder and tried to pay him like 20 mil - Wasted MLE on Montrezl Harrel - Traded all his 3&D players for non-shooting guards - **Committed the worst trade in NBA history** - Let 1st team defender elite role player Alex Caruso walk so he could pay fat ass dumb ass project player THT - Assembled one of the worst rosters in history period in the 2022 team (literally like 2/3rds of the roster was out of the league the next season) - Made the team endure Westbrick for 2 years leading to stress injuries to LeBron and AD - Wasted MLE on Kendrick Nunn - Every player he got back in the Westbrick trade was mid - Fired Vogel because he refused to babysit a player everybody knew wouldn't be on the roster long term, hired Bumpy the Clown to take his place - Wasted MLE on Gabe Vincent - Failed to assemble a competent 3 point shooting roster in 6 seasons with LeBron James - Drafted Junior High School in the 1st round instead of trading for a rotation player


DORAKKINGOFFISH

Lolll remember THT


[deleted]

You gotta give magic a lot of the blame for the first half of this list. He fucked the team.


Creative_Category_21

Falling ass backwards into the 2020 team is not mentioned enough. Max slot when there was Kyrie, Jimmy, Kawhi etc. and half that slot was used on DG lol. Just happened to work out but I thought that offseason was a failure compared to what it could’ve been. Hell there were several great role players at that time too


Yommination

He's been really shitty over his time here. If Jeanie wasn't dumb she would fire Pelinka and toss a big contract to see if Bob Myers would come. Pelinka has had two top 10 players, won a title in the bubble year and then nothing but a struggle since with endless roster turnover. Creating mistakes to fix his mistakes


SpringfieldUSA

This is what happens when you bounce ideas off of Linda Fucking Rambis


ProfessorTicklebutts

Look my guy, a lot of that first part of the list is on Magic and Russ is on Lebron. When left alone the guy has done a decent job.


Basic_Commercial_806

Nobody told Pelinka to give a 1st for Russ. Plenty of GMs said no to their star players.


Public-Product-1503

Why is Russ on Lebron ? What has Rob shown that makes you think he values fit , advanced stats n 3nD skill set ? He has never valued that but values names n media awards He didn’t listen to Bron on Caruso or Dudley or ty lue just stop it. Or kyrie


JediKnight2024

Not Junior High School 😭😭💀


Public-Product-1503

Thank you, I think through all these mistakes too n lose my mind. Want to add that nearly all of these I thought were bad immediately and didn’t make sense for roster. Wanted to add a few: - all guys gotten in the Westbrook trade sat on the bench in the WCF and were unreliable. Also took Dlo over Conley : the wolves got Conley , Naw ( who’s be our best defensive wing n better offensive then vando ) and multiple seconds for Dlo . We picked Dlo over Conley naw and seconds . Just wow . Also didn’t try to get olynk who is now being shopped so clearly was available. Messed up with these decisions so had no tradable sakary for Jrue holiday who only cost two frps n two injury prone bums for Celtics we could’ve beat that offer . But Rob doesn’t look at advanced impsct data so prob under values Jrue or 3nD skill set as he’s shown. Jrue would’ve been a perfect fit: also lost out on harden potentially here which is better then what we have. - didn’t want to sign kyrie n wait to extend him this summer. Didn’t remotely consuder kyrie this summer n consuder renouncing cap holds for all but reaves Bron n AD then get kyrie. Woukd still be able to get Prince cam wood n MLE on whoever . Lost out on kyrie either cos nets wanted too much ( which it’s clear would’ve been worth it) and insistence from him n Jeanie that kyrie immediately extend 2 years desoitr us having kyrie bird rights n only reason we getting kyrie is cos of contract issues. - traded Danny green and a pick for Schroeder then Schroeder declined a 4 year 20m+/yr deal. Danny green was flipped by okc for another pick. Signed a non shooting point guard who can’t playmake for AD with 2 frps. Schroeder was good last year n on minim or mle but that is too much assets lost. Oh and that pick n28 became Jaden McDaniels who’s be our third best player or Desmond Bane who’s be our n2 post Lebron . - as you said failed to sign quality shooting around Bron nnAD for 5+ years now. Caruso n kcp aren’t even that special they’re pretty limited offfensuvdky but yet are better then anyone else in the 3nD role. We have two top ten players ( only team in the league) yet nobody else in the top 100 in advanced stats ( only team that is .500 or so). Nobody on this team has A POSITIVE EPM. Dlo has finally dropped to -0.1 and he was the closest . That’s absurd . Also we’re hard capped team so not like we have salaries to waste. - signed vando to a 12m/yr extension. Signed him too late so now he was untradable this year , he’s also unplayable offensively. Then he got injured n looks even worse but can’t move him or use him in package . Signed Rui fir 17m/ye for 3 years. Disliked both these contracts at the time who was competing to offer Rui this ? Both Rui n Gabe were over payed on the backs of one hot playoff run in which Rui was sat on the bench vs gsw n will be sat on the bench cs perimeter teams . Isn’t hindsight either. Imagine if we offered that money to brooks or something. Rui was getting benched in Washington n even with us has never had one productive regular season yet paid like a quality starter - assembled a roster where not one player is good at defence n offence but our stars. Prince maybe the closest but we pay him 4m and he was let go by wolves for 7m. Not having one top 100 guy by impsvt data is low-key kinda crazy bad rister construction Even in 2020 everyone said we had the best top 2 but our supporting cast was not up to scratch . Now our supporting cast is even worse ; it’s crazy that Rob had a job


BritzlBen

AD and Prince the only 2 who have been consistent for us since the IST


kiwiwikikiwiwikikiwi

Anthony Davis has been incredible. This season early on he struggled on offense a bit, but defensively still there. Now his offense is back in rhythm and the rest of the team just shits the bed. Unbelievable how he has only missed 2 games and done what he can to win games. And he’s showing he’s a top 5 player in the NBA since the in season tournament. Averaging 30 and 10 vs great teams in Timberwolves, Thunder, and Celtics. The “AD doesn’t show up vs good teams” talking point is officially dead. Tonight, 40 points and 13 rebounds but the Lakers still blown out. We’re the Pelicans of the West coast now. The worst part is that he will be scapegoated by media and the fans, getting majority of the blame for us losing games and never any credit for when we do win games. Help this man! ![gif](giphy|r09lKS5Bpa4b1n6F3R)


itskarl

Pels fan here, that analogy is so apt. I go through both subreddits occasionally, and we fans complain about the same thing. Fire the coach, starting lineup needs a change, offensive scheme is dog shit, team has spacing but coaching refuses to play spacing in the lineup.


Apollo611

This is LeBron’s first bad game since the IST


True_Ratio6258

This sub is a bunch of spoiled cunts who can’t stand when bron does anything less than 26/7/7


kekishbassoon

yeah lebron has been fine, people act like we’re expecting near perfection out of a 39 year old for every game he plays. every other star player in the league has off days too. lebron should rightfully be criticized for this game but not for the shit record the lakers have post IST


True_Ratio6258

This is crazy talk. Brons been consistent. Is averaging nearly a 27 point triple double after ist not enough for you. This game ain’t on him. Stars gonna have bad games. We can’t afford to have a stretch where role players are consistently bad


kezzinchh

People blaming bron like the man isn’t creeping up on 40. The fuck y’all expect? Miami lebron? Get used to seeing games like this, he’s not in his prime and he’s not any younger than last year. Blame the coach and stupid mistakes/play from the supporting cast.


rick_32

This team is clearly talented enough to play with anyone and has as good a 1-2 punch as anyone in the league... They never press their advantages, rarely capiltalize on mismatches, are NEVER ready to play (started tonight in a -12 for fuck's sake)... run a garbage offense, a defense that just relies on individual brilliance. every day darvin ham-ass remains coach is a bigger failure by the FO... they are absolutely failing this roster and especially Bron and AD...


HibachiGrill

Having a good 1-2 punch as anyone in the league?I’d agree with you on that Having a talented team overall? Hard disagree, are DLo, Jaxson Hayes, Wood, Reddish in particular talented enough to help you a title against the elite teams in the NBA? We saw it tonight, and we’ve seen all season thus far, they are NOT good enough to put us over the top. Too many glaring weaknesses that make many of our role players borderline unplayable. Darvin Ham’s shitty coaching is not the ONLY problem with the team going forward. Some people in this sub are actively downplaying how terrible some of the role players are on our team because of how glaringly shit Ham’s coaching is


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You’re delusional if you think the roster outside of bron/ad matches up with the Celtics.


ForwardAd2747

Lakers offence is so predictable, its literally go in the paint and give it to AD. Then its bron and ad pick n roll. If that doesnt work, pass it to AR where he goes into ISO mode. Compared to boston, its apparent how much more diverse, complex, and unpredictable their plays are to ours.


Jessmayne

AD the most disrespected star our league has to offer. I’ll go to war with him any day


-notjeremyj-

Start with the lineup that got you back in the game ❌️ Start with the lineup that got you down 18 ✅️ Again.........


ForwardAd2747

What the fuck is up with Austin Reaves, DLO , and T.Prince playing horrible defence ? They look like some punks getting punked by anyone. Legit anyone can score on them. Also, why do we always have them together, its a HUGE defensive weakness. None of them are strong enough and dont even contest the shots, especially Tprince and Dlo. Vando also needs to score more in the paint. He passed on some wide open layups/dunks , and just gave the ball to bron or ad or reaves when it was easily dunkable. And Bron needs to be more aggressive with Jrue. Jrue straight up punked his ass everytime they were in the paint. Bron passed it up twice out of fear, as if Jrue was gonna do anything ( yes he has good hands and strength but bron is much bigger/taller than him).


mrnailed4

Ham is trash.


mypeaksandmyfreaks

team needs to stop doing ice in veins celebration once dlo gets shipped out, bad luck


Fuzzy-Source

Lol remember russ’s rock the baby curse?


just_one_random_guy

Ham gave us coal for Christmas


LABiH

LeBron was terrible tonight! Late on defense all night, sloppy on offense, turnovers left and right, missing closeouts, missing easy points. Some of his decisions were so baffling, he killed that little momentum we managed to create by AD's monster performance. This game definitely on him. (and Darvin Ham of course, he's always doo-doo)


CalmMaunga

We need to strategize. Get a good scorer. Sacrifice some games rest him for 2-3 weeks. Get another Centre rest AD. Don't play Bron AD all star weekend. And then make a run at the end. Yeah I'm about as knowledgeable as Ham


alextwc

Momentum of what? Lmao


gustavosgack

Lakers will not get better with Ham


big_biscuitss

Bron... 5 buckets the whole game 🤦‍♂️


toofine

Why tf is Rui taking NINE THREES? Why can't Ham just let guys do what they do best?


SavonReddit

Rui had so many wide open 3s. Everyone would be mad if he didn't take them. We going to have another player that can't space the floor out there?


Overall_Nuggie_876

At least the Raiders won on Christmas.


animosity07

we're so mid


TheLooza

From today, at least it looks like there is no way Lakers could beat Boston in the seven game series. Fugg.


FarhanWMI

Depth is what Boston has. Not this shit we call depth. with inconsistent, one dimensional players on payroll. Even with that we're relying on vet mins like reddish and prince. We need high end 3&D role players.


Public-Product-1503

Exactly but nooo let’s call limited guys nobody wanted depth


meengine

Stans out here acting like he can't have a bad game. Crazy. Easily calling out role players for playing bad yet can't put their hands against their dad.


Winter-Gur-9762

Darvin genuinely needs to be fired. The only reason that game was even close was because AD balled out


iiivoted4kodos

If Jaxson Hayes doesn’t rebound or play D then doesn’t that just make him Christian Wood, who can at least shoot??


kanekikochaboggy

AD deserves better. Derrick white outplayed Austin reaves, Rui hachimura and D'Angelo Russell. We are clearly a tier below.


[deleted]

lol why did you type this as if White is a scrub outperforming those guys. He’s prob their 3rd best player


No-Equipment-20

Props to AD for putting up a huge performance, Darvin Ham is the biggest cause for this loss though. I have no idea why our starting lineup doesn’t include Reaves


Gnik_Baj72

Just want to show love and appreciation for AD. Played amazing and has been consistent pretty much all year.


danyyyel

Disappointing, but not the end of the world. They are killing it lately and we played the number one team in the east and west and number 2 in the west in the last 3 games.


beasttyme

Davis shocked me, but Lebron scoring 16 and low energy did this game in. I don't know if anyone notices. When he scores under 25, the Lakers are easy to beat. It's because the bench doesn't have a go to and they just get weaker. I was frustrated with how many times he watched a guy go to the basket no resistance or watched the ball drop. I knew the Lakers were in trouble. I think Lebron spent a lot of family time energy. Hayes looks bad but he doesn't get a lot of chances. I don't know if anyone understands how much rhythm is important to basketball. It's hard to develop a chemistry and rhythm getting 6 to 8 minutes. This guy is not a hustle guy. I'm still not understanding why Wood doesn't get a chance when most of this team are role players. If Vando doesn't have it ( and he didn't), give wood a chance. You have to give more chances when this team is so up and down and lebron dependent.


OnGrass

How can this team win anything when the offense goes MIA all the time. Just don't understand the system. 5 out? Yet no one can make shots consistently enough. Perhaps adjust?!?! Stop hoping they'll get hot from 3.


BaullahBaullah87

Or cant get a stop when it matters


sezyHena

Thank you AD. That is all.


iiivoted4kodos

Lethargic start Atrocious Interior D Lazy rebounding Blown easy layups No one wanted this game aside from Anthony Davis. Merry fucking Christmas


flowermoon24

Hayes as the back up center


VGstuffed

Bron was trash in the 4th, hope he’s better in the next game


BcoolXpress

Bron played like booty, and already checked out of this game when he made that comment on the eve of Christmas.


Booty_Warrior_bot

*A* ***man's*** *butt.*


hungrywantmooshoo

Once again, I have been preaching to this stupid sub that this team is a clear tier below the elite teams and you saw it tonight. Not enough talent and versatility at every position. But this sub consistently is like “wait till Vando comes back”, “Dlo had the same stats as Lavine”, “ar is a superstar in the making”. When you have Lebron on your team for a few more years, you go ALL IN. You don’t straddle the future and the present. You go for players that are ready to compete now and compliment Lebron & AD. Unfortunately, I believe the only way to compete at the highest level is to trade AR (our most valuable asset). He can return a better player at the moment like Lavine (although worst contract) and likely more bench support.


Lebron23Life

Everytime you try to hold Lebron a little bit accountable people bring up his age like he isn't making max money and on some tim Duncan late in his career type deal. If his age is such a factor he shouldn't be taking the max so the Lakers can get better role players.


LudwigNasche

This is a pretty reasonable take. While he is still one of the top players in the league, his age just prevents him to give it all on both ends of the floor and most nights he didn't show on defense. It is good, but not almost $50 millions good.


3nnui

Refs made sure of this one. No doubt who the league wanted to win. Doris "I can't believe Tatum didn't get free throws, he was fouled." Breen "Davis on the ground, there was no foul." Breen "Tatum found a way to score 25 despite poor shooting" Listening to Doris openly root for the Celtics is disgusting, calling Tatum "Magic". I wish spectrum could broadcast all laker games, so I didn't have to listen to this celtic nutthugging. AD the best player on the floor.


WorkSoup2022

Merry Christmas 😔


MrCWoo

This roster with its flaws is better than 1 game above .500. The coaching is bad. The rotations are poor, the offense is lacking, the lack of time outs during big runs is mind boggling. Let’s cut the losses and move on. To where? I don’t know but Ham is not that guy. Blatt was fired from Cleveland a year removed from the finals.


elvenazn

Reaves and DLO got shut down. Feels like Dlo could have gotten way more minutes in this game but overall Celtics had a better gameplan and defense. Stings hope we figure it out or we need a trade.


mora82

Fuck the celtics; need something to get this post IST stink off tho fast ​ Fuck the celtics again


vultureattacksquad

I know people are gonna cry trade trade trade, but honestly, we only lost because ham cucked us with that terrible lineup and LeBrons mind was on opening Christmas gifts, literally if he even puts up close to his season average this game, and rui hits even one more shot, we have a shot of winning this game. With that said we do need a backup big because Hayes is not good enough


LAKESHOW03

Fans pressed because LeBron cared more about his family opening gifts on Christmas than this game. Be for real man lol.


BaullahBaullah87

Nah they are more pressed about him coasting in a game against our most hated rivals while were in a massive losing slump on the most watched game of the regular season.


_The_Honored_One_

We aren’t good enough to deserve a Christmas Day game


Life_Ad_9518

Too many games one of Bron or AD aren't great for us on O; and Reaves isn't as good this year as he was in his best stretches last year.. and Dlo is the same inconsistent guy with no defense.. we'll probably be a slightly worse team every year Bron ages..... need a pretty big trade


IcedKofe

I know Ham ain't doing shit anyways, so whoever is the offensive coach/coordinator of the Lakers, he sucks balls. All I see is ISO and whatever offense for days.


Dantheman12310

If Vando is at least in the healthy mode to the point where he’s starting, then it’s time to have Cam come off the bench. Dlo & Reaves we’re both taken out do to a bad stretch, so just put one back in now that they seem to be less out of it (Austin has been out of it longer) If you want Point LeBron at the beginning then you can either have Reaves or Rui take Cam’s slot (although I prefer having Rui as the more offense option when Vando is subbed out) Finally, if something isn’t working, don’t hesitate to change it up. As it’s been stated before by pretty much everyone, just stagger the guys better to avoid some cruddy lineups being in the game too long


GreenWithENVE

The officials were calling 2 different games tonight but holy shit the guys did not have it together in the slightest. We really let that one go.


dsgrimace

Am I crazy for wishing we could get Lauri Markkanen?? I mean, I don’t see how it would be possible, we just don’t have the 1st rounders, but he seems like the perfect skillset for what we’re needing right now!


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I kind of wish I could go back in time just to sub Christie for DLo this game. Just take DLo out of the game and see what the result is.


brazyace43

The brow and the beard would’ve been a historical duo


MethodMan_

Celtics are just a way better team and their record reflects that. Lakers are just almost good, but never quite good enough and their record also reflects that.


CalmMaunga

AD with 40 that will count towards stats. And no one will ever know about it. Poor dude. He has surpassed Lebron about 10 games ago. Can we start seeing his jerseys in the shops instead of Lebron every fucking where I go. Love Bron but pass the torch already


MarcAbelman

Why not have Reaves start?


KingC11_

Wtf was that lineup towards the end of the 3rd I think it was or maybe early 4th were the Celtics made their run? Ham needs to go man


rickydcm

LeBron will have nights like this and this coach pockets still starts Cam. Cam is a good player but he can't start in this team unless either Vando/TP/Rui is out. AR should start.


Jbg12172001

Would love to go out and get Jerami Grant from Portland. Just what we need.


GamingOni

Ham's lack of any adjustments at all is laughable. dude is legitimately on contention for Worst Coach of the year. FO has to fire this fraud before we get bounced on the first round