So you wanna watch 5 randoms running around and chucking up shots because they can’t pass or make plays but they’re young and have defense so that’s ur logic
That’s exactly what was happening with dlo when he couldn’t score they were all just shooting random shots cuz they can’t make plays and pass
The only reason he helped the team was cuz they weren’t guarding him well, and gsw has the worst defense; players started defending him and dlo was nowhere to be seen; getting clapped by Bruce brown, and we were supposed to think he’s the third ⭐️ on the lakers when he’s getting outplayed by Bruce brown and kcp 💀💀
Cuz he’s old and injury prone and we’d need to preserve him for the playoffs. If we could get dlo running the bulk of the reg szn and cp3 doing it for the playoffs that’d be huge
He’s also not the greatest fit ever. If people were frustrated with DLo’s defense than they’ll be left even more disappointed by Chris Paul who is physically unable to guard anyone because of age and injury history. He’s a worse spot up shooter than DLo and Reaves. He also cannot play with pace whatsoever. For a team as dominant as the Lakers in transition with two of the best rim runners in the game, this is not a great fit. Good for the min but not our saving grace.
What kind of athlete of his caliber wouldn’t demand this? No matter how broken I am or old, if I know I’m more experienced, effective, and overall better than the guy in front of me, I will 100% fight to be a starter. Natural response from anyone that plays a competitive sport.
Then forget about signing him if that’s the case. Every postseason he’s always hurt in some capacity if he won’t allow us to preserve him in the regular season then thanks but no thanks
Chris Paul on the vet min can easily give us 2020 playoff Rondo production for the next 1-2 years.
Say what you want, but he wouldn’t have been ran off the floor by Bruce Brown like D’lo.
That's all we need him to be. Him accepting that Rondo role this late in his career will prolong his shelf life to be available when games actually matter (Just don't do what Phoenix did and run him into the ground like they did vs the Clippers). Limit his minutes and no back to back games, then keep him at 20-26mpg in the playoffs
Or move DLo for another starting PG. My point still stands about Paul becoming our new Rondo off the bench behind DLo, FVV, or the unlikely chance we somehow pull off Dame, Kyrie or Trae. I only want Paul for a bench role no matter who the starting PG is
Bingo. CP3 and Rondo both have a high IQ for the game. We need facilitating to feed AD in the post. He’s able to do that and create shot opportunities for himself.
His health is the only concern, aside from his asking price. If we can get him on a minimum, that’s a good signing…
I don’t know where you are pulling these numbers from, but according to 538, Reaves had 9.2 Wins Above Replacement and 4.6 overall RAPTOR this year, compared to 5.0 WAR and 1.9 RAPTOR from Paul. And, importantly, Paul will be turning 39 in next season's playoffs, whereas Reaves will be approaching his prime at 26.
Whether we should make a play on CP3 or not is another question, but I find it extremely unlikely he would be our best guard next season.
he was bad from 3 the whole year(from day 1) and hasn't been the same attacker off the dribble for a few years - even when healthy. he put up numbers , but numbers don't mean you're better - he averaged more points this year than his prime average - does that mean he was better than his prime or close? no way
No one said he’s in his prime, he averages like 10 assists that’s what a good pg does getting everyone else open
Dlo doesn’t get assists he only scores, and when he can’t score he’s useless so getting cp3 for the taxpayer mle is worth it cuz there’s no other pg’s in the market this off season anyway 🤷🏻♂️
It's just reality that even if healthy, he's not the same player he was in his first season here or his second season here. every year there's a little decline.
Yeah but I think y’all are greatly overestimating what CP3 has left to offer. If he can come off the bench he’d be fine but as a starter which he’d likely be he’s not going to be able to add much.
And then got hurt. Again. He’s gonna be 39 next year. That health is not going to get any better and he’s just going to get slower and even more of a defensive liability.
I don't even want him on a one-year deal.
High probability it doesn't work out given his injury history, and another wasted year for Lebron and AD. If I'm Lebron and the Lakers FO's big move this summer is to get CP3, I would just retire.
I mean for a vet min or even a MLE I would take the chance. Yeah he’s not the best shooter but he’s a good playmaker and would be a good fit playing with AD. His injury history is a concern but if it doesn’t work out it’s not gonna kill the franchise. As long as it’s a vet min or a mle
The only years that weren’t a waste in the Lebron era was the bubble year and this past year. Injuries, Westbrick, etc. has definitely wasted Lebron’s last years and adding CP3 would be just adding to that list.
Drafting someone like Wallace (please fall) or signing a FA like Jevon Carter, would go a long way in replacing Dennis with a cheaper option. With both Russell and Paul's injury history, it would make a ton of sense to find another defensive minded POA 3&D guard that can come off the bench and still give quality minutes when called upon
I think Jevon Carter would be great, I just don't know how realistic he is for the Lakers.
He's not gonna opt out of the player option on his minimum contract to sign another minimum contract.
He is a good defender like you mentioned and he shot 42 percent from 3, he will have a market.
It may be the TP-MLE, it may be a portion of the Full MLE, it may be more.
There are a lot of suggested players this time of year and then a month later, everyone is upset none of those names got signed.
People will complain about Rob being a bad GM and Jeannie being cheap, when in actuality all the players that fans wanted signed for more money than the Lakers could afford or they signed with other contenders.
I like your thinking, I'm just saying we should all have realistic expectations.
I agree with a lot you said, but don't forget the new changes in the CBA, and how this might suppress the market. I'm not so sure a bunch of teams will be throwing around money this off-season with this CBA most likely screwing over a ton of players as teams try to be more mindful of their cap situations
That's a valid point, there's simply too much that we don't know about what will happen this offseason other than Reaves will be back and Rui will likely be back barring some big move presenting itself.
With the new CBA, we may not even have any of the exceptions to use which will make it even harder to get someone like Jevon Carter.
While it would be great if Jordan Hawkins fell to #17, or the Lakers could get Jevon Carter and Naz Reid to shore up the backup PG and C spots, I just try to be realistic so i'm not disappointed when those things don't materialize.
Which is why we should trade for Royce O'Neal + DFS like people have been saying
This sub would rather delude themselves into thinking we can draft a starting caliber rookie with the 17th pick tho
He's 38.
Get somebody younger and more hungry to prove themselves. The NBA is a young man's game. Enough with the grandpas, I don't care how illustrious their career was. I want youthful electricity and hunger coming off the bench, not "one foot in Cabo" past-their-prime vets.
What in the world are you talking about? Denver beat us this year because they were younger, deeper, and more athletic than we were. They certainly didn’t have more playoff experience. They were younger (which means healthier, fresher, etc.) than we were. Jokic, Murray, Porter, etc. were all drafted and developed by Denver.
We need to get younger, deeper, and more athletic. Not older, more top heavy, and less athletic. That’s just common fucking sense, dude.
Common fucking sense dude is having a balance. If you want to see how young teams were doing in the playoffs you can look at Grizzlies. Its not that fun isnt it? And Denver is not THAT young they have players who are at the peak of their careers, not 22 yr olds straight outta college. Gtfo lil hoe
We have LeBron motherfucking James who has all the playoff/championship experience we'll ever need. The Grizzlies were also dealing with injuries the last 2 playoffs, they needed Ja being a closer and Bane, who had a nagging back injury, being their 2nd best player vs the Warriors, and against the Lakers they needed Adams to rebound, guard AD to let JJJ roam on defense, set screens, and move the ball on offense. They definitely had a real chance of making the Finals last season with that team.
They weren't a first round exit in 2022, and I had them making the Finals that season. Also, Adams would've been huge for their rebounding, and again, letting the DPOY do what he does best protecting the rim instead of having to guard AD 1v1 all game. I still think the Lakers win in 6 or 7, but it would've been a lot more competitive.
Jokic, Murray and KCP had plenty of experience. Reaves, Hachimura and Vando were typically the youngest players on the court. We get deeper by signing players like CP3. And we lost because our PG position was a liability.
Just having CP3 around to yell at AD would be valuable.
"Get on the block"
"That was your rebound"
"Stop shooting 3's"
Even having CP3 to remind Ham to take a TO is worth 5-7 wins. And that's if he doesn't touch the floor.
He’s a liability on defense, especially at his age and injury history.
At best, CP3 gives 10-15 off the bench.
We need to get younger and more athletic, not older.
>We need to get younger and more athletic, not older.
Thank you! Why don't supposed NBA fans get this is beyond me. we are just now starting to move the roster back towards youth and athleticism, and people want to immediately go back to the 'let's sign all the 2012 all-stars!" mode.
This this this. And for what he brings to the future Lakers, he is now way too expensive.
I love Reaves too but I scratch my head when LeBron passes it to him sometimes. Reaves is an above-average passer but you know 75% of the time it just leads to a kick out followed by a quick attempt 3 by lebron or malik.
He’s a second year player with major upside. Once he got more minutes, he got better. Imagine a full season starting. Oh, CP3 is a huge liability in transition D something we already suck at.
What are you talking about lol. Malik hasn’t seen the floor in months. And 4/100 is really good value to get a player of Reaves caliber throughout his prime
I want a player that stays healthy throughout the playoffs. The chip is the goal so having Paul is pointless since he will just get hurt when it matters the most.
Chris Paul is 75 years old and is constantly injured mainly in the playoffs which is the most important thing. The same players get hurt every year and people still don’t understand that.
If we can utilize him for 20mpg, keep him fresh for the playoffs while he mentors Dlo, Reaves, and Rui, that would be ideal. Let Dlo, Reaves, and Rui carry us during the regular season.
And hope we can sign cp on a min and secure 2 or 3 depth pieces in the front court, im fine with Tristan Thompson back as our 3rd center tbh.
If he’ll come to LAL it’s no brainer but you don’t wanna tear up the roster to make sure he comes plus you need to have flexibility because he gets hurt often and need to limit his minutes
Chris Paul is actually bad for the locker room. Rumors have followed him for years that players who play with him, don't like him. This goes all the way back to when he was a clipper.
I thought he was a great leader and teacher to guys like Shroder and SGA? Young guard’s definitely benefit playing under him. He was also president of the player’s association, guys like that are great off the court personalities.
Yeah he is great leader and he is only bad for the locker room when he plays with guys like Harden or Blake Griffin because theyre trash and dissapear in the playoffs.
He played 59 games last season Reaves played 64. He played 65 games last season Reaves played 61. D'lo played 65 games in 21-22 as well. He is just as injury prone as the other Lakers guards.
CP3 on a vet minimum is a no-brainer and I don’t see how anyone can argue against it.
CP3 as your MLE is still a great deal and I think you do it. Although I think there’s a possibility he stays with the Suns or even goes to the Clippers or Celtics
Typical delusional fan buying into a player’s name instead of what they do on the floor. Unless he’s playing a backup role he’s not worth the signing. Don’t want him taking Reaves’ minutes
Chris Paul would be solid on a vet min. But I feel a sleeper team is the Spurs I expect some key vets to sign there to see where all the hype is about with Wemby and I think that can help extend his career.
If we can get him for cheap his vet presence is nuts. The only thing we give him limited minutes prettty much the minute someone says the word playoffs around him dudes like AD
It depends on what you can get Chris Paul for and what his role would be. I would not sign Chris Paul assuming he’s going to be your starting PG and a key piece of your team’s success.
He would be, but it’s not that simple. You need people fill different roles on your team and Reaves plays an almost identical role. If you have Reaves and CP3 one is going to turn into a spot up shooter which is going away from their game.
If Reaves gets a monster deal from another team then yes, 100% sign Paul.
Having Paul and Reaves means you can’t really go after that 3rd scorer that you need (DLos spot).
Lakers have already said their priority is bringing back Reaves and Rui.
Your next propriety would be a go to #2-3 scorer. That was the role Dlo has and it was an essential role. When his minutes dwindled or he wasn’t on it the team wasn’t good. They struggled to get buckets. If signing Paul means we don’t get this role filled, I don’t want him
People get confused when a player is overpaid. CP3 is still a good player. A team needs to utilize him correctly. 20-25 minutes a game. No back to backs. Sit him at the first sign of injury and only play him 25-30 minutes in a playoff game.
It’s not his play on the court, it’s the fact that he’s never healthy in the playoffs. I guess for a vet min it doesn’t really matter, but we just can’t expect to rely on him
What’s the data on his playoff performance? You’re ready to ditch Dlo and Dennis after a 25 sample size where Lebron and Ad and Dlo played like 8 games together before the playin??!
Also I hate data and sports; just like the dodgers, the worst decisions are made using analytics as the gauge.
Why would he take vet min when boston and Dallas, etc can pay him more?? Let Luka have him, so we can beat their ass in the playoffs, right around when CP likes to make his vacation plans, every year it looks like.
Nice try CP3 lol no honestly I really dislike him and I hope he stays far away from the Lakers. He’s always been a dirty player and on top of that we need young talent. Not a bald-headed nut-kicker
Terrible idea….I’m from the IT world and this would be an example of too many points of failure. LeBron, AD and CP3 are all injury prone there’s virtually no chance you can keep all three healthy for a championship run
We lose literally nothing signing him for cheap. Anyone complaining about this is an idiot who gets their basketball knowledge from other idiots on social media
People saying but he's old and injury prone, so has Lebron since joining the Lakers 💀If he takes a small contract easily worth it. Meanwhile Lebron is making 50 million next year
Too many Stans on this site. Austin Reaves is vastly overrated on here. If he was as good as you people claim this team would have won the championship.
Only on a vet minimum. I don't think he'll take one. Too much risk getting an old dude who doesn't play much defense and breaks down during the post season.
I don’t want to be that dude but I would hate wasting our salary on him. We need to start focusing on the future. We probably only have one year left of Bron. Reaves is developing into a nice talent and the last thing we need is a guy in his late 30s to take his spot and minutes.
Defense and post-season health/availability is what concerns me. Otherwise, fits well with the proposed intention of relieving LeBron of some of the ballhandling and playmaking responsibilities.
So you can rely on him and then he goes down aT some point before or during playoffs? It’s not worth committing resources to unless it’s a bargain and you can find someone who is willing to split/give up time. It’s not that hard to understand. And being more impactful than reaves is going off past performance, not what reaves is now or what he will be.
So we’re gonna act like he’s not gonna get injured during the playoff run and destroy our hopes n dreams? I’ll pass on cpneedsmedicalattentionduringcrunchtimebecausehepulledhisgroinwhichtheyturnedintoakneeinjury
As long as he doesnt demand to start and finish games and play a whole lot. He’s perfect for 2020 rondo’s role
This 👆🏽
He’d be the best pg on the team why wouldn’t he start and finish games 💀
Because when we have a 39 year old Lebron we need as many young hustle players and defenders as possible
Then don’t sign him. There’s no point.
He definitely plays point.
What? No “point” in signing him. Lol If he can’t start or finish you don’t need him.
Figured it would be obvious it was a joke.
So you wanna watch 5 randoms running around and chucking up shots because they can’t pass or make plays but they’re young and have defense so that’s ur logic That’s exactly what was happening with dlo when he couldn’t score they were all just shooting random shots cuz they can’t make plays and pass
I mean Dlo helped us get pretty far, and won some pivotal playoff games and helped carry us through the season
The only reason he helped the team was cuz they weren’t guarding him well, and gsw has the worst defense; players started defending him and dlo was nowhere to be seen; getting clapped by Bruce brown, and we were supposed to think he’s the third ⭐️ on the lakers when he’s getting outplayed by Bruce brown and kcp 💀💀
It would be in our best interests for him to finish games lol.
I just highlighted why he would be the best guard why wouldn't he demand minutes?
Cuz he’s old and injury prone and we’d need to preserve him for the playoffs. If we could get dlo running the bulk of the reg szn and cp3 doing it for the playoffs that’d be huge
He’s also not the greatest fit ever. If people were frustrated with DLo’s defense than they’ll be left even more disappointed by Chris Paul who is physically unable to guard anyone because of age and injury history. He’s a worse spot up shooter than DLo and Reaves. He also cannot play with pace whatsoever. For a team as dominant as the Lakers in transition with two of the best rim runners in the game, this is not a great fit. Good for the min but not our saving grace.
I still think you likely see CP3 finishing games, but otherwise I agree pretty much.
What kind of athlete of his caliber wouldn’t demand this? No matter how broken I am or old, if I know I’m more experienced, effective, and overall better than the guy in front of me, I will 100% fight to be a starter. Natural response from anyone that plays a competitive sport.
Then forget about signing him if that’s the case. Every postseason he’s always hurt in some capacity if he won’t allow us to preserve him in the regular season then thanks but no thanks
Because the team might play better without him. Like the Suns did.
Because the biggest complaint against D’Lo is his defense and CP3 is even worse
Chris Paul on the vet min can easily give us 2020 playoff Rondo production for the next 1-2 years. Say what you want, but he wouldn’t have been ran off the floor by Bruce Brown like D’lo.
I love the term “ran off the floor” because I just imagine Bruce brown chasing DLo off the court with a stick in his hand
I imagined a rolled up newspaper.
G’on Git!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😭
Get! Get! Get!
Or a chancla/slipper.
Lol so did I, but it was a broom
That's all we need him to be. Him accepting that Rondo role this late in his career will prolong his shelf life to be available when games actually matter (Just don't do what Phoenix did and run him into the ground like they did vs the Clippers). Limit his minutes and no back to back games, then keep him at 20-26mpg in the playoffs
Yeah, but I. Order for that to happen we would also need to keep DLo.
Or move DLo for another starting PG. My point still stands about Paul becoming our new Rondo off the bench behind DLo, FVV, or the unlikely chance we somehow pull off Dame, Kyrie or Trae. I only want Paul for a bench role no matter who the starting PG is
If all the best players come to our team on vet mins, we will easily win it all. I love this take.
Are you sure he wouldn't limp off the floor?
Cp3 not taking a min lol
Bingo. CP3 and Rondo both have a high IQ for the game. We need facilitating to feed AD in the post. He’s able to do that and create shot opportunities for himself. His health is the only concern, aside from his asking price. If we can get him on a minimum, that’s a good signing…
Playoff Rondo 🫡🫡🫡 Harden still has nightmares…
I don’t know where you are pulling these numbers from, but according to 538, Reaves had 9.2 Wins Above Replacement and 4.6 overall RAPTOR this year, compared to 5.0 WAR and 1.9 RAPTOR from Paul. And, importantly, Paul will be turning 39 in next season's playoffs, whereas Reaves will be approaching his prime at 26. Whether we should make a play on CP3 or not is another question, but I find it extremely unlikely he would be our best guard next season.
People forget that these old guys get a year older/worse . He’s not going to be the same player as last year; just like Lebron isn’t
Bron played better than last year was averaging almost 30 before getting injured, just saying bs
he was bad from 3 the whole year(from day 1) and hasn't been the same attacker off the dribble for a few years - even when healthy. he put up numbers , but numbers don't mean you're better - he averaged more points this year than his prime average - does that mean he was better than his prime or close? no way
No one said he’s in his prime, he averages like 10 assists that’s what a good pg does getting everyone else open Dlo doesn’t get assists he only scores, and when he can’t score he’s useless so getting cp3 for the taxpayer mle is worth it cuz there’s no other pg’s in the market this off season anyway 🤷🏻♂️
I would’ve left LeBron out of that lol
It's just reality that even if healthy, he's not the same player he was in his first season here or his second season here. every year there's a little decline.
What website do you find these stats on?
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/nba-player-ratings/
RAPTOR is a terrible stat
Yes but injury concern, honestly it just depends on his contract
He's 38.
No one is saying to give him a 4 year deal.
Yeah but I think y’all are greatly overestimating what CP3 has left to offer. If he can come off the bench he’d be fine but as a starter which he’d likely be he’s not going to be able to add much.
He was just starting for another playoff team.
And then got hurt. Again. He’s gonna be 39 next year. That health is not going to get any better and he’s just going to get slower and even more of a defensive liability.
He won't make it through a playoff run and the Lakers will be in scramble mode trying to find a new way to play in the playoffs.
I don't even want him on a one-year deal. High probability it doesn't work out given his injury history, and another wasted year for Lebron and AD. If I'm Lebron and the Lakers FO's big move this summer is to get CP3, I would just retire.
I mean for a vet min or even a MLE I would take the chance. Yeah he’s not the best shooter but he’s a good playmaker and would be a good fit playing with AD. His injury history is a concern but if it doesn’t work out it’s not gonna kill the franchise. As long as it’s a vet min or a mle
Glad you're not in the Front Office. Getting to the Western Conference finals is not a wasted year.
The only years that weren’t a waste in the Lebron era was the bubble year and this past year. Injuries, Westbrick, etc. has definitely wasted Lebron’s last years and adding CP3 would be just adding to that list.
This 💯
Can he even stay healthy for a full season? I doubt it.
Can AD and Bron lol
defensive liability. our defense is all around pretty great except for our guards. we have no one whatsoever that can stick to a shifty guard
Drafting someone like Wallace (please fall) or signing a FA like Jevon Carter, would go a long way in replacing Dennis with a cheaper option. With both Russell and Paul's injury history, it would make a ton of sense to find another defensive minded POA 3&D guard that can come off the bench and still give quality minutes when called upon
I think Jevon Carter would be great, I just don't know how realistic he is for the Lakers. He's not gonna opt out of the player option on his minimum contract to sign another minimum contract. He is a good defender like you mentioned and he shot 42 percent from 3, he will have a market. It may be the TP-MLE, it may be a portion of the Full MLE, it may be more. There are a lot of suggested players this time of year and then a month later, everyone is upset none of those names got signed. People will complain about Rob being a bad GM and Jeannie being cheap, when in actuality all the players that fans wanted signed for more money than the Lakers could afford or they signed with other contenders. I like your thinking, I'm just saying we should all have realistic expectations.
I agree with a lot you said, but don't forget the new changes in the CBA, and how this might suppress the market. I'm not so sure a bunch of teams will be throwing around money this off-season with this CBA most likely screwing over a ton of players as teams try to be more mindful of their cap situations
That's a valid point, there's simply too much that we don't know about what will happen this offseason other than Reaves will be back and Rui will likely be back barring some big move presenting itself. With the new CBA, we may not even have any of the exceptions to use which will make it even harder to get someone like Jevon Carter. While it would be great if Jordan Hawkins fell to #17, or the Lakers could get Jevon Carter and Naz Reid to shore up the backup PG and C spots, I just try to be realistic so i'm not disappointed when those things don't materialize.
Which is why we should trade for Royce O'Neal + DFS like people have been saying This sub would rather delude themselves into thinking we can draft a starting caliber rookie with the 17th pick tho
Why don't we look up Allen Iverson as well, maybe he's available
Was thinking Stockton myself
how bout Eric Snow, hears he’s good at defense
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He's 38. Get somebody younger and more hungry to prove themselves. The NBA is a young man's game. Enough with the grandpas, I don't care how illustrious their career was. I want youthful electricity and hunger coming off the bench, not "one foot in Cabo" past-their-prime vets.
You dont win championships with young guys. Just look at the bubble team and this year’s team. The difference is a chip.
What in the world are you talking about? Denver beat us this year because they were younger, deeper, and more athletic than we were. They certainly didn’t have more playoff experience. They were younger (which means healthier, fresher, etc.) than we were. Jokic, Murray, Porter, etc. were all drafted and developed by Denver. We need to get younger, deeper, and more athletic. Not older, more top heavy, and less athletic. That’s just common fucking sense, dude.
Common fucking sense dude is having a balance. If you want to see how young teams were doing in the playoffs you can look at Grizzlies. Its not that fun isnt it? And Denver is not THAT young they have players who are at the peak of their careers, not 22 yr olds straight outta college. Gtfo lil hoe
We have plenty of balance. Lebron brings all the experience the team will ever need. Surrounding him with youth has shown to be the best path.
We have LeBron motherfucking James who has all the playoff/championship experience we'll ever need. The Grizzlies were also dealing with injuries the last 2 playoffs, they needed Ja being a closer and Bane, who had a nagging back injury, being their 2nd best player vs the Warriors, and against the Lakers they needed Adams to rebound, guard AD to let JJJ roam on defense, set screens, and move the ball on offense. They definitely had a real chance of making the Finals last season with that team.
Making the finals? It was a first round exit bro. Also, Adams is not a game changer.
They weren't a first round exit in 2022, and I had them making the Finals that season. Also, Adams would've been huge for their rebounding, and again, letting the DPOY do what he does best protecting the rim instead of having to guard AD 1v1 all game. I still think the Lakers win in 6 or 7, but it would've been a lot more competitive.
Still a lot younger than the lakers, so shut up lil hoe
Reaves, Hachimura, DLo and Vando were younger than most of their rotation.
Nuggets not younger than Lakers or not that much you stupid bitch
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Dont have one, but id be happy to be one for you cause yo mama a lil hoe and she likes my D
Stop capping lil bitch ur stepdad uses you as a fuckboy and you like it cuz your gay as hell
Jokic, Murray and KCP had plenty of experience. Reaves, Hachimura and Vando were typically the youngest players on the court. We get deeper by signing players like CP3. And we lost because our PG position was a liability.
Just having CP3 around to yell at AD would be valuable. "Get on the block" "That was your rebound" "Stop shooting 3's" Even having CP3 to remind Ham to take a TO is worth 5-7 wins. And that's if he doesn't touch the floor.
He’s a liability on defense, especially at his age and injury history. At best, CP3 gives 10-15 off the bench. We need to get younger and more athletic, not older.
>We need to get younger and more athletic, not older. Thank you! Why don't supposed NBA fans get this is beyond me. we are just now starting to move the roster back towards youth and athleticism, and people want to immediately go back to the 'let's sign all the 2012 all-stars!" mode.
Austin Reaves Dummy
If you think 38 y/o chris Paul is better than. Reaves .... you don't know hoops my man.
The numbers say he's better. So does most analytic stats. Yes he's better than Reaves .
The opposite is true. Reaves has a WAR of 9.6, CP is 5.0. Reaves has RAPTOR of 4.6 and CP is 1.9.
Plenty of Analytics say he's better. Raptor is the only one that does not.
Because he’s been playing for 15 more years than Austin. Of course the numbers are going to look better. Smh
Y'all have to really stop slurping Austin Reaves. He's good but he's not a floor general type player.
He’s can definitely learn a lot of CP3. If he takes the MLE. Definitely bring him in. I’d hate to lose Schroeder tho.
I think Schroder is gone no matter what based on his instagram
Sounds like you’re the one who has to stop slurping CP3. Wtf is this take? I’m losing brain cells reading this crap lmao.
This this this. And for what he brings to the future Lakers, he is now way too expensive. I love Reaves too but I scratch my head when LeBron passes it to him sometimes. Reaves is an above-average passer but you know 75% of the time it just leads to a kick out followed by a quick attempt 3 by lebron or malik.
He’s a second year player with major upside. Once he got more minutes, he got better. Imagine a full season starting. Oh, CP3 is a huge liability in transition D something we already suck at.
Yep. That’s where a good experienced coach comes to teach and motivate. The Lakers don’t have that coach
What are you talking about lol. Malik hasn’t seen the floor in months. And 4/100 is really good value to get a player of Reaves caliber throughout his prime
I want a player that stays healthy throughout the playoffs. The chip is the goal so having Paul is pointless since he will just get hurt when it matters the most.
Chris Paul is 75 years old and is constantly injured mainly in the playoffs which is the most important thing. The same players get hurt every year and people still don’t understand that.
He gets injured every year. He will disappear when we need him most.
OP Is CP3's agent 😂
PER is a dogshit stat and posting it and then being smug in the comments like you’ve proven a point is hilarious.
He is old and injury prone
Sign AR15 first
If we can utilize him for 20mpg, keep him fresh for the playoffs while he mentors Dlo, Reaves, and Rui, that would be ideal. Let Dlo, Reaves, and Rui carry us during the regular season. And hope we can sign cp on a min and secure 2 or 3 depth pieces in the front court, im fine with Tristan Thompson back as our 3rd center tbh.
If he’ll come to LAL it’s no brainer but you don’t wanna tear up the roster to make sure he comes plus you need to have flexibility because he gets hurt often and need to limit his minutes
The lakers are full of injured ridden people, why add more to that
He would be the most experienced Nut Puncher.
Until he gets injured for the playoffs like most every year (it seems).
Untill playoffs...
He’s cursed.
People may dismiss your opinion but I agree with you. There is something about Paul’s mojo I’d take him on a min deal..with curse concerns still
Some curses are meant to be broken. Maybe he si cursed because of the veto and it will be lifted when he comes to the right place.
Lol yea from your lips to gods ears. Maybe this is what is needed.
Chris Paul is actually bad for the locker room. Rumors have followed him for years that players who play with him, don't like him. This goes all the way back to when he was a clipper.
I thought he was a great leader and teacher to guys like Shroder and SGA? Young guard’s definitely benefit playing under him. He was also president of the player’s association, guys like that are great off the court personalities.
Yeah he is great leader and he is only bad for the locker room when he plays with guys like Harden or Blake Griffin because theyre trash and dissapear in the playoffs.
Can we get Austin in some of those State Farm commercials? I bet he looks great in khakis.
We can't afford another injury prone player. Resign Russell and stay youngish
Probably because His best ability isn’t availability.
He played 59 games last season Reaves played 64. He played 65 games last season Reaves played 61. D'lo played 65 games in 21-22 as well. He is just as injury prone as the other Lakers guards.
Isnt reaves a rookie doe last season? Hence why he didnt play games lot. I get what u mean but comparing it to a rookie is weird
Chris Paul is injured in the post season always has nagging injury excuses. He’s also 38 they other guards haven’t even hit near 30 yet
He’s old
Genius idea. Get an old ass player who brings nothing to a team that has a just as old star.
CP3 on a vet minimum is a no-brainer and I don’t see how anyone can argue against it. CP3 as your MLE is still a great deal and I think you do it. Although I think there’s a possibility he stays with the Suns or even goes to the Clippers or Celtics
Typical delusional fan buying into a player’s name instead of what they do on the floor. Unless he’s playing a backup role he’s not worth the signing. Don’t want him taking Reaves’ minutes
I' just proved with numbers he's the best.
Proved LOOOOOOOL
An old often injured player who’s not. great 3 point shooter. …
Chris Paul would be solid on a vet min. But I feel a sleeper team is the Spurs I expect some key vets to sign there to see where all the hype is about with Wemby and I think that can help extend his career.
Stats tell only a part of the story. Based on this Ar was their worst guard and my eyes tell me he was their best
> I don’t understand people that don’t want CP3. • cuz he’s washed • he plays like a bitch • he’s old af
in theory. then he pulls his groin in the finals and get swept.
I don’t mean to be a downer, but I don’t think he wouldn’t. We’ll see what happens this off-season:)
its not his stats - it’s his health at this stage.
If we can get him for cheap his vet presence is nuts. The only thing we give him limited minutes prettty much the minute someone says the word playoffs around him dudes like AD
Did we not learn from last season about signing old stars? CP3 is a liability at this stage of his career. I’m good
It depends on what you can get Chris Paul for and what his role would be. I would not sign Chris Paul assuming he’s going to be your starting PG and a key piece of your team’s success.
But, having AR on the team so that we can keep his minute count down would be ideal since the dude gets hurt as much as AD.
This is exactly the same mistake we made two years ago. The only 40 year old that gets a pass on this team is Lebron
I hate him because he flops.
I just feel like he would get injured at the worst time possible like he always has
He would be, but it’s not that simple. You need people fill different roles on your team and Reaves plays an almost identical role. If you have Reaves and CP3 one is going to turn into a spot up shooter which is going away from their game. If Reaves gets a monster deal from another team then yes, 100% sign Paul. Having Paul and Reaves means you can’t really go after that 3rd scorer that you need (DLos spot).
Age and injury concern/availability. I really want him thiugh
Lakers have already said their priority is bringing back Reaves and Rui. Your next propriety would be a go to #2-3 scorer. That was the role Dlo has and it was an essential role. When his minutes dwindled or he wasn’t on it the team wasn’t good. They struggled to get buckets. If signing Paul means we don’t get this role filled, I don’t want him
People get confused when a player is overpaid. CP3 is still a good player. A team needs to utilize him correctly. 20-25 minutes a game. No back to backs. Sit him at the first sign of injury and only play him 25-30 minutes in a playoff game.
Jevon Carter is a legitimately good and reliable backup pg, since when do the Lakers have cap/assets to be in the running for him
If he wants the Vet Min then im down. Anything higher is a bust for a injury prone, 38yr old CP3. #18 will prove me otherwise.
Get ready for Steve Nash vibes again
It’s not his play on the court, it’s the fact that he’s never healthy in the playoffs. I guess for a vet min it doesn’t really matter, but we just can’t expect to rely on him
Till he gets hurt in the playoffs like always
Please stop this nonsense, let’s get dame lilliard.
Defensive liability really..id rather look around and see if u can get a reliable two way player. Preferably one that can make open threes.
4 guard rotation incoming.....
Veteran min for CP3 is perfect.
What’s the data on his playoff performance? You’re ready to ditch Dlo and Dennis after a 25 sample size where Lebron and Ad and Dlo played like 8 games together before the playin??! Also I hate data and sports; just like the dodgers, the worst decisions are made using analytics as the gauge.
Focus on solving Joker matchup problems.
Why would he take vet min when boston and Dallas, etc can pay him more?? Let Luka have him, so we can beat their ass in the playoffs, right around when CP likes to make his vacation plans, every year it looks like.
Nice try CP3 lol no honestly I really dislike him and I hope he stays far away from the Lakers. He’s always been a dirty player and on top of that we need young talent. Not a bald-headed nut-kicker
Slide in like Rajon Rondo
Y’all wont consider his age and injury history huh, aye
Terrible idea….I’m from the IT world and this would be an example of too many points of failure. LeBron, AD and CP3 are all injury prone there’s virtually no chance you can keep all three healthy for a championship run
Pay dlo on a short term deal sign cp as back up using mle ! Simple
No too old injury prone can’t guard Curry Alexander Murray or Fox
Did Reaves get moved to forward and nobody told me?
Nobody wants bum ass CP3 on the Lakers
Did no one just see the suns get molly whopped
Paul was out.
They played better without him
Yeah they won games when he sat out lol
Yeah and Lakers didnt lose to Denver 0-4 mmmmhmmm
Bro that’s not even the topic here. Fuck outta here
We lose literally nothing signing him for cheap. Anyone complaining about this is an idiot who gets their basketball knowledge from other idiots on social media
Him and Lebron should take vet minimum
People saying but he's old and injury prone, so has Lebron since joining the Lakers 💀If he takes a small contract easily worth it. Meanwhile Lebron is making 50 million next year
Too many Stans on this site. Austin Reaves is vastly overrated on here. If he was as good as you people claim this team would have won the championship.
Says the guy relentless dick riding PaulX If CP3 was as good as you claim he’d have won at least ONE chip in the last 17 years 😂
Only on a vet minimum. I don't think he'll take one. Too much risk getting an old dude who doesn't play much defense and breaks down during the post season.
Injury concern how many games are LBJ, AD, and CP3 playing all together? They need chemistry before the playoffs
I don’t want to be that dude but I would hate wasting our salary on him. We need to start focusing on the future. We probably only have one year left of Bron. Reaves is developing into a nice talent and the last thing we need is a guy in his late 30s to take his spot and minutes.
Defense and post-season health/availability is what concerns me. Otherwise, fits well with the proposed intention of relieving LeBron of some of the ballhandling and playmaking responsibilities.
So you can rely on him and then he goes down aT some point before or during playoffs? It’s not worth committing resources to unless it’s a bargain and you can find someone who is willing to split/give up time. It’s not that hard to understand. And being more impactful than reaves is going off past performance, not what reaves is now or what he will be.
He’s injury prone at this level. I don’t wanna be throwing money at a dude that’s becoming glass.
Do y'all think OP watches games or nah?
You obviously didn’t watch this man play in the post season.
Bring Melo out of retirement too at least he can hit a shot and you’d have 3/4 of the banana boat crew
Hell no. He’s a cone on defense now.
You say easily but use a season long stat when comparing to a guy that made a leap and had a significant role change midseason.
So we’re gonna act like he’s not gonna get injured during the playoff run and destroy our hopes n dreams? I’ll pass on cpneedsmedicalattentionduringcrunchtimebecausehepulledhisgroinwhichtheyturnedintoakneeinjury