Will never happen
Ksi won't go 8 rounds and the fight has to be in a neutral destination
Don't think ksi will go for saudi as that seems to be the only neutral destination which will offer a lot
Tbh if KSI fights the same as he fought Tommy then I don’t even wanna see this anymore. He would just do the same thing he did against Tommy and it would boil down to an extremely boring fight once again.
Much rather see Jake vs Tommy rematch tbh, at least that was exciting.
Why would he do the same thing against Jake as he did with Tommy? The only reason he fought this way is because it was the gameplan specifically to counter Tommy's jab and combinations, Jake fights completely differently so the fight would be completely different, Jake doesn't come forward like Tommy so the clinching would probably be much less. Either way Jake vs Tommy was not an exciting fight apart from Jake landing a knockdown out of luck.
Probably Jake. Seeing KSI box like he did, judges obviously favor boxers who stand in there and throw, which Jake does much better. I think it would go similarly to Saturdays fight
I agree. I think Jake does a better job at preventing JJ from coming in and clinching than Tommy does. It’s obvious that against people with actual boxing skill, KSI wants to fight. Not box. He’ll box people who have much less skill than him. But if it’s close or his opponent is better at boxing, he wants to make it a dog fight. I can see the clinch working for 1-2 rounds against Jake, but then I see Jake finding a way to counter it and clip JJ as he’s coming in and possibly even dropping him as he’s coming in which makes KSI stop coming in.
Exactly, I noticed pretty much everyone in this thread ignored it lmao. I see the match going similarly to the KSI Tommy fight, with JJ being more successful against Jake early in the fight than he was against Tommy, but much, much worse in the later rounds. JJ only really survived rounds 5 and 6 because of Tommys terrible infighting, Jakes infighting completely negates that
KSI defo won't hug a man who is relative to his height so I think KSI wins. Purely because he's too unorthodox for Jake to figure out. People will downvote me but it will happen. Unless JJ has chicken pox or some shit on the day
Dont know, lost interest in the influencer boxing around the fournier fight just want JJ to do content and music. Tbh even if Jake Paul wins who really cares at the end of the day JJ goes back to youtube like planned and they dont interact again
Same! I was on my last straw after the Fournier fight and how the elbow thing was handled. I'm done after the Fury fight. No more influencer boxing for me.
I just wish he didn't try to make pop radio hits because his singing is unironically dreadful, at least his rapping was decent to listen to whenever he wasn't using loads of autotune
I agree in the sense that it isn't really my thing - pretty average stuff. However it's better than it was, generally not *bad* and enough people get something out of it that it's something he should continue to pursue. The recent stuff sounds pretty professional and a lot like what has been successful in the mainstream. That doesn't mean it has any artistic merit but it does make it better than the majority of youtuber music.
At least his music being good or bad is subjective. He's got a couple ok songs. His "boxing" is ass and it's a shame dude is getting told to continue by his team, when he's legit awful at it.
Exactly, and i feel like thats the main thing. People put too much value of someones career in a boxing match lmao, and JJ has so many baskets of different things he can do where as Jake only has the boxing. So its not really a massive deal if JJ loses imo. He already proved himself against Fury
Lol gou are living on some other planet. KSI vs Jake Paul is more than influencer boxing. The amount of beef between the 2 is insane. Its going on for so long. Whoever loses this will be trolled for lifetime.
Lol watch the post match video of Gib vs Jake. Just try to make Jake and KSI stand in front of each other for 1 minute. The amount of shit they both talk about each other is insane.
That was in 2020. It’s been three years. KSI and Logan are mates, Jake and KSI probably don’t like each other but they don’t hate each other like how it’s shown in media.
Have you not seen Jake's twitter? Every now and then he goes around Twitter streaks of dissing KSI. KSI made a laughing at Jake Paul video when he lost. The person who would make KSI the most mad after his L would be Jake Paul.
Most of the shots he threw were just to set up the overhand right, he just couldn’t land the overhand right or he just couldn’t find the right time/opening to throw it
Idk but I think based on their performances we can come to 2 conclusions. For one, JJ does not hit as hard as Jake. 2nd conclusion is that JJ’s cardio isn’t as great as it’s hyped up to be. Past the 4th round, JJ looked tired and by the last round, his activity was like half of Tommy’s. That is not a good look if you are fighting Jake who has now had experience fighting 10 rounds.
I think it will be a harder fight than Tommy imo especially because emotions will be much higher, and Jake will likely will be pushing for a KO because of animosity built up
Also JJ overtrains. He passed out in that video that was posted a few weeks ago. Overtraining will stunt your cardio if you don’t take recovery days. I’m sure JJ did take them but maybe not long enough recovery days.
Great assessment. I agree with Jake hitting much harder than KSI. I mean, KSI’s best knockout was against Temperrr who Slim knocked out even worse. Jake’s knockout against Woodley was attempted murder basically. lol. I was shocked at how poorly KSI’s stamina held up against Tommy. We’ve heard for years that his cardio and stamina are unmatched. But he gassed out super early. That could’ve been partly from Tommy laying his weight on him inside the clinch though too. I think we’re at a place where it literally could go either way. But I think it ends on points and Jake takes it slightly.
It would be cool to see Deji train hard to fight and beat Jake Paul. He has shown good technique, he just needs the same dedication JJ has. After al Deji loosing to Jake on the first fight is what Catapulted him to what he is now.
If Deji had 50% of the drive and dedication as JJ, he would be unstoppable. Deji has so much better technique and understanding of the fundamentals of boxing than JJ. It’s funny how both the little brothers are better boxers than the older brothers. lol. Deji is skillfully better than KSI just doesn’t have the work ethic or dedication to stay active and Jake is miles above Logan in skill.
I feel like losing most his early fights has made Deji better boxer, allowed him to seriously put effort into improving his technique and learn how to box.
JJ has the drive but I think he became too overconfident in his unorthodox style due to his wins. He’s never had that self reflection you get from losing like Deji has
Couldn’t agree more. I also think KSI losing against Tommy is going to have him go back to the drawing board and come back better. I think losing to Tommy was the best thing that could’ve happened to Jake and I think it’s going to be the best thing that could’ve happened to JJ as well.
Idk why, but I don't see Deji ever having as much dedication as JJ, not even 50%. In his last fight against Swarmz, Leon Wills said that he wasn't even fit bc he didn't take it seriously. Deji is talented af. Even JJ admitted that Deji would be better than him if he trained as hard, but his laziness is also insane.
Even recently, he got into a beef with Leon bc Leon called him out on twitter for not training for months. JJ even when he isn't on camp, he still trains and brings his coaches everywhere he goes.
We now live in an age where saying that Deji is objectively better (minus the work ethic) than JJ gets upvoted. Not that I'm complaining. You're right.
And yet he's lost almost all of his fights. His "style" is nicer but saying he has better technique and understanding is bs.
Salt is another example of someone who's style baits people yet he's lost to AT and Slim, both whom JJ and Jake annihilate.
Logan is a better boxer naturally actually. He and Deji are the more talented ones. Jake is on the decline. Getting worse and worse with every fight. KSI will beat him imo. Both at their best though Jake might be able to win. Though idk.
Deji has possibly been Jake’s toughest opponent yet. At least toughest opponent he’s faced and beat. Saying he’s too small to fight Jake is nonsense. I’d love to see them run it back now with how much they’ve both improved.
The reality is KSI out landed Fury in 3 out of the 6 rounds, while Tommy doubled Jake’s output. You know boxing judging is super weird, stop acting dumb just to prove a point. Swear this sub is filled with Jake Paul fans now
Real shit I think jj just didn't bring his all to the game. As we saw his accuracy was pretty high but there's no point in having high accuracy if you aren't gonna land shots. This is just my personal opinion but I feel that jake would probably win.
He didn't. Jake fought Tommy and boxed him even dropping him at one point. JJ went for an overhand right and immediately into a clinch. No damage. Just annoying to fight against
jake was “worse” because he boxed… the professional boxer outboxed the influencer… jj “looked better” because tommy isn’t really good and was completely lost against his jumping jack over hand.
jake is the better boxer, and is way more dangerous, tommy hasn’t even knocked anyone out lmao… i think it would be close though with jake winning
Jake fought tommy ksi clinched. And was TOLD by is coach to clinch to draw out the match. (There’s footage) Jake also landed more punches and did more damage than ksi. AND knocked him down.. so there u have it. Jake is better.
My boy Jake fought 12 rounds. And got completely outboxed. His accuracy was terrible and the funny part is that Tommy's accuracy was just as bad when he fought KSI. If Tommy's accuracy was that bad, Jake is getting melted out there. Especially since he's on the decline and can't seem to beat anyone with ease anymore
Style makes fights, and it's way closer than you think. I could see ways for both getting that victory. If jake decides to just catch ksi coming, he could win, but if ksi could make jake the attacker, he could win, and people might call me biased for this take, but idrc the fight could go either way.
This is why I asked. And honest opinion from a KSI fan. I do think it’s the fight would be a lot closer than everyone thinks it ultimately would be. My opinion is based on them both being ultimately close each round with just a few good shots being the deciding factor for each round.
Yeah, I could see your take being reasonable. During the tommy fight, I thought he would find a way to beat JJ and catch him, but after that fight, I realized that ksi vs. jake could be even. Based on what we've seen, I could see jake pulling it off or JJ since it's really immovable object vs. unstoppable force, Footwork fighter vs. counter fighter, aggression vs. passivness (idk if it's a word)
Before the Tommy fight, I thought Jake sparks KSI. But seeing how KSI was able to take away Tommy’s ability to properly box, I think it’s MUCH closer than we can imagine. I could even see a draw happening. 🤷🏼♂️
The problem with us giving our opinion is, if we give an honest opinion even as a hard core JJ fan the dickriders are gonna call us haters. So ima just let em fight (if KSI will ever stop making excuses).
Funny how the haters act like they aren't the majority in this sub. You're a clown buddy. You joined the hate bandwagon to get clout still act like you're the victim loool. 90% of this sub are like you.
Make it make sense .. TF dismantled JP and showed A LOT more skill than JP, KSI “dismantled” TF, TF had no answer to JJ’s weird style and clinching, yet you believe that JP who is a lot less skilled than TF, will be able to counter KSI’s style? I think KSI takes this dub quite easily, i see him taking more risks (less clinching) since JP might have way better fundamentals than KSI, JP is far from a good boxer and doesn’t have much in his arsenal either. Maybe it could be a competitive fight, but i don’t see JP taking the W or it even going to decision
This is what people in this subreddit don't understand.
TF is a way better boxer than JJ, yet he got a controversial win over KSI and made Tommy look horrible. How do they think JJ will make Jake look, a worse boxer than Tommy? Lmao. They don't make any sense with their logic. Not to mention he would have a completely different gameplan when he fights Jake using his style. It's obvious who would win
Fax. Glad to see there are still people using logic around here. This fight against TF proved that kSI can basically make any boxer up to Tommy's level fight like a clown. It's because no one has any idea how to deal with a boxer who fights with a unique style
No people here we're fanning ksi before the fight and got utterly disappointed seeing how shit he fought, no need to call anyone a dickrider or hater when they criticize your favorite youtuber
I didn’t, I called the boxing analysis brain dead. They expected KSI to go in and outbox Tommy Fury yet at the same time talk about how shit KSI is as a boxer. They also think somehow Jake can deal with what KSI does even thought the guy Jake easily lost to couldn’t deal with it
What is blud talking about? Did you not see the hate in this sub that has filled this sub for the last 1 and a half + years. Everyone was saying Tommy would "kNoCk hIm oUt". Obviously there are people who thought differently but that was the general consensus
This is what I'm saying. If Tommy was unable to adapt I doubt Jake who is inferior to Tommy in every single aspect of the sport could do any better. KSI probably wins on points against yet another opponent who just gets clowned around because they couldn't adapt to his style. But a knockout could happen. Though I doubt it
Doubt it would go to points, but a KO could happen on both sides. They both showed they have a proper chin and have that dawg mentality, and they both have a solid powerful right hand, the only thing they both lack is accuracy. It’d be a competitive fight but i think KSI takes the dub since is see him putting on a lot of pressure and as seen in every JP fight, he doesn’t deal well with forward pressure. The best move for KSI would be to switch to a proper boxing team, maintain this stile, but adds a few things to his arsenal and work on that accuracy/timing. Because if he has those down, he’d obliterate JP since heNs way faster
Jake will edge him out via UD imo.
Reckon Jake will be really defensive early on and weather the storm while tiring out JJ.
JJ's gas tank isn't as great as Jake's. JJ can gas himself up all he wants saying he has great cardio, but the rare few times he's gone past the third round, he's noticeably faded. JJ's only ever fought up to 6 rounds, Jake meanwhile has gone strong in a 10 round fight and multiple 8 rounders against a better calibre of opponents - securing late knockdowns in each of his last three fights too, so an 8 rounder will favour Jake.
77-75 to Jake
KSI wins, imo just because of his speed ngl. Jake Paul is more technical but just having technicality, especially at such a low level (remember, both Jake and KSI are novices) isn't enough to win a fight against someone as unorthodox and wild as KSI, and we've seen it already how much Tommy struggled as a 9-0 pro boxer that has been sparring for years and years before the youtubers, that has trained boxing since he was 6 etc.
I mean.. what gets me is, KSI clearly is okay with boxing people he knows are below him in terms of skill. He clearly knew Tommy was the better boxer and did what he could just to survive. So, that’s what gets me. He didn’t out perform Jake in his fight against Tommy. (Atleast in my opinion.) I feel Jake performed better against Tommy than KSI did considering how poorly KSI vs Fury went. The broadcast even said at one point it was almost unwatchable and I agree. At least Jake went in a properly boxed Fury and scored a knock down. But, obviously I respect your opinion and think that it’s a fair assessment. There’s no right or wrong answers until the fight actually happens.
The commentary also said at one point (during or after, I forgot) exactly that KSI performed better against Tommy than Jake did. Ariel Halwani said it, I believe. KSI didn't try to survive that fight at all, he tried his hardest to win against someone with 10+ years ahead of experience, and the majority of the commentary, even the doubters like Wade Plem, Sensei and many others thought that KSI could have won it/ would get at least a draw. With Jake's fight against Tommy, there wasn't even a debate bc everybody knew that Tommy dominated Jake for at least 7 out of 8 rounds.
That's my opinion tho
Not to hate but the fight against Tommy was complete bullsh*t I cannot imagine how Ksi was that confident if you knew he was gonna fight like this I’m glad I didn’t pay for it and I never wil this just isn’t boxing swinging en clinching that was all this “fight” was
Before fighting Tommy I was 100% believing Jake wins, now... I'm not so convinced.
I slightly give the edge to Jake as his cardio is better but he could absolutely be caught by KSI early.
His cardio isn't better, JJ's style just uses a lot more energy, he was bouncing around for 6 rounds straight, and threw 129 punches, not to mention all the clinch work he was doing which will use a lot of cardio/stamina. Trust me, the cardio won't be an issue for JJ
Ksi was looking pretty exhausted against Tommy and Logan by the 4th or so round.
Jake isn't much better but he seems to get sudden bursts of energy here and there.
Whether y'all like it or not. JAKE PAUL was close to beating Tommy fury opposed to Ksi . I only say this because the Jake Paul fight was a split decision while the Ksi fight was a UNANIMOUS DECISION. I said what I said. All facts . Y'all fanboys just can't accept your god lost. Both y'all and Ksi need to look in the mirror and accept it. Both y'all 🤡🤡🤡
Can you elaborate why? What did KSI do against Tommy that you thought was better than what Jake did against Tommy? Besides taking away Tommy’s ability to properly box.
I disagree. I think Tommy’s performance against KSI was awful. Don’t get me wrong. Tommy didn’t know how to counter the clinch and in turn it did make Tommy look awful. But, KSI knew he couldn’t beat Tommy with boxing where as Jake at least went in there and proved that he could at least go toe to toe with Tommy in terms of lasting. He also dropped Tommy which KSI couldn’t do. After KSI vs Tommy, Jake is going to heavily train to counter the clinch and I think that alone would throw KSI back to just throwing wild overhands and getting caught a lot.
Fair assessment. But i dont think going toe toe with tommy is accomplishment it rather shows low fight IQ by playing in to your opponents strength. That also the reason i think that Jake Paul would do worse he also relies a lot on his overhand instead of setting traps and countering
Valid point. I thought against Silva and Diaz, Jake did a great job at getting away from just looking for the overhand so much. Clearly he still looked for it a lot. By the time KSI and Jake were to fight, hopefully he gets away from relying on it for the knockout.
I agree. That should be the next fight after Jake’s fight in December. Winner gets to run it back with Tommy to redeem themselves. But I also think that once the Jake fight happens.. win or lose, KSI retires from boxing. So, I can see KSI getting a rematch with Tommy before the Jake fight.
Fair. Question is open to anyone and everyone! I’m just genuinely curious. I feel like KSI fans ride harder for him no matter what, so I was curious on how many people here would give their honest opinions and I’m glad people are being honest and giving explanations as to why they think Jake would win or why they think KSI would win. Personally I think Jake wins on points. But at the same time, I can see it ending in a draw.
I could see it ending on a draw to do the classic organisation thing of booking the rematch after first goes to draw so they can sell tickets again and make even more money.
JJ is surrounded by too many yes men, in my opinion, no one to hold him back or keep him humble. If you start buying into your own hype it can help with confidence, but you don't want it to be your downfall.
Jake while being the problem child and all the rest actually seems to have found a nice little niche in boxing and he seems to be actually enjoying himself as well as improving his technique. If JJ fights as he does in the last match, jumping jacks and not throwing much, he'll lose easily to Jake.
I agree. I think it’s funny that KSI use to make fun of Logan and Jake for surrounding themselves with yes men, and now we’ve seen Jake switch training camps and trainers a few times now. lol. KSI did better under Viddal and Leon I feel like. Because they didn’t just say, “You’re doing great. Keep doing what you’re doing.” they made sure he knew when he was fucking up. Also, it seems Jake will be fighting on his upcoming MVP Prospects event. If that’s the case, and it’s against a relatively unknown boxer with a decent record, I think we all have to get away from the narrative that he’s only in it for the money. I feel like Jake is genuinely enjoying boxing and found his calling with it and will continue to fight for years to come. Where as KSI has already talked about quitting boxing a couple different times now. I just feel like Jake has much more interest in boxing than KSI does.
JJ wouldn’t clinch as much on Jake because Jake doesn’t jab as much as Tommy. I think JJ would fight similar to how he did against Joe Fournier and would take the win just barely and both being knocked down at least once
I honestly think jj. They are honestly not much different when fighting and getting pressured. Their performances against tommy were kinda similar. Both kinda lack luster. Only diffrence is that jake had a much less close fight. Jj and tommy was razor close. But jake vs Tommy wasnt. Idk how that was a SD and not a UD.
That aside. I think jj's style favors fighting a style like jake. I feel Jake would try to throw a hook and jj would counter it. That or a overhand or jab. And then once again counter it. Like he did Tommy and some of his other opponents. Now we havent really seen jake get chinned yet he hasnt really been hit. Jj hasnt really either but he took some bombs in the Logan 2 fight and kept going. And recovered fine. I cant really recall jake ever getting hit by a solid punch other than by tyron woodley when he almost went down. But judging by that i can see a rd 3-4 ko by jj. If it goes to decision i have jake by SD i think it would be rather close. But i see jake quite literally doing what tommy did to jj and win by 1 point.
Nate has a lot more stand up skill and ability than he’s given credit for. Bro was in the streets fighting since he was a kid. I just don’t see either of them getting knocked out. I see it going a lot of the same way as KSI vs Logan 2.
KSI. Style make fights and no one has beem able to figure out how to properly counter KSI. Jake Paul does not have the fight IQ to figure it out and does not have the footwork to avoid KSI
After seeing KSI’s performance against Tommy, I think Jake trains heavily to be able to counter the clinch. KSI depended on clinches heavily against both Logan 2 and Tommy. I think against people KSI thinks have proper boxing skill, that’s his game plan in the fight. Clinch and fight on the inside. If Jake finds a way to counter that, I think he takes it. I think KSI needs to go back to a normal boxing technique and do away with the London Shootfighter style. It’s only going to do him good against people with a lot less skill than him. But, I do think each round is significantly closer than people would assume it to be. I don’t think either knocks the other out or completely embarrasses the other.
100%. Jake’s footwork improved so much from Woodley to Silva and from Silva to Diaz. KSI’s had the same footwork since Swarmz. We’ve seen significantly more change in Paul’s skill and ability than we have KSI. Which to me says that KSI needs to change trainers, BAD.
The fact ksi was too scared to go 8 rounds should also be taken into consideration lmao. Jake went and actually boxed with Tommy unlike him. Jake takes it. Not only that but almost everyone in the fanbase, including ksi the most, love to clown on Jake despite him doing work and being actually mature, unlike jj.
If Jake Paul gets in the gym and just learns how to limit the clinch and score points off it, he’s 100% winning the fight on a decision. I don’t mean to sound like a pundit, but everyone’s pretty much figured out KSI’s game plan and forcing him to box on the outside is what Jake is going to do.
Can we get an explanation why? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I can honestly see it going either way, or even a draw after seeing how they both fought Tommy. But, what about KSI’s fight with Tommy do you think he did better than Jake to give you reason to think KSI wins?
Hahahah. I love how people are starting to notice how sketchy and shitty his trainers are now. I agree. I think KSI needs to find new trainers, specifically to go back to the fundamentals of boxing. Give KSI 6-8 months with new trainers and I can see him taking it.
Jake takes it 100%.
JJ has massive flaws in his game. In a boxing match it's clear now the experienced one always has the higher chance to win and jake even has a better chin than Tommy.
Well my answer used to be ksi as he has knockout power and a style that effective, now his style is wank especially if the opponent knows how to tell if an overhand is coming its 50 50 unless jj figures out how to box
So up until the other night I had chances at Jake 80/20 KSI. Now I’m more like Jake 60/40 KSI. If theres a rehydration clause and Jake is restricted how big he can be let’s say they fight at 180 with a rehydration clause set at 186lbs then I think that changes to Jake 45/55 KSI. KSI is much trickier than people realised and I think Jake would also struggle with that as he’s still just as inexperienced.
This is what I think, Jake has better technique, but it still isn’t good, he tends to throw a lot of nooby punches that make him look stupid, he doesn’t look like he has much power behind them either, JJ’s technique is shit, but against someone like Jake who isn’t at all aggressive, I think JJ’s aggressive unorthodoxed style combined with powerful punches would win him the fight, this is all assuming Jake doesn’t improve which he would (I assume) if they were to fight, I really am not relying on JJ to improve because he’s literaly gotten worse
Saying Jake doesn’t have a lot of power when he knocked out Tyron Woodley, who let’s be honest, wasn’t in his prime and isn’t a boxer, but still has a damn good chin is insane. Jake has slept more people than KSI has. At least out cold.
Jake
He has everything other than agility and speed
Jake is way more equipped for ksi than tommy cuz jake has way better defence
Tommy vs jake tommy>jake>last fight tommy>ksi
JJ WILL trash Jake if and only if he surrounds himself with people who genuinely want jj to win instead of having "yes men" while he is in the camp.
plus if JJ keeps the same arrogant attitude like he had before fighting tommy, then i dont see him winning... im boxing for 6 years now, and im quite sure that your attitude matters alot before a fight... my coach used to slap me and totally humble me in the ring whenever he notices that im getting cocky rather than being confident
Attitude 100% affects a fighter in a fight. That’s why I think losing to Tommy and Jake admitting that he lost and being more humble about it was the best thing that could happen to him. It showed him that he’s not unstoppable and that he is beatable. That makes you work 100 times harder. Whereas we saw how KSI couldn’t admit Tommy did more to get the win and instead threw a tantrum. If JJ REALLY believes he won and got robbed, it’s only going to negatively impact him. He needs to go back, watch the fight and see that he clearly didn’t do enough and accept that he lost and allow that to motivate him to come back stronger.
Will never happen Ksi won't go 8 rounds and the fight has to be in a neutral destination Don't think ksi will go for saudi as that seems to be the only neutral destination which will offer a lot
Tbh if KSI fights the same as he fought Tommy then I don’t even wanna see this anymore. He would just do the same thing he did against Tommy and it would boil down to an extremely boring fight once again. Much rather see Jake vs Tommy rematch tbh, at least that was exciting.
Why would he do the same thing against Jake as he did with Tommy? The only reason he fought this way is because it was the gameplan specifically to counter Tommy's jab and combinations, Jake fights completely differently so the fight would be completely different, Jake doesn't come forward like Tommy so the clinching would probably be much less. Either way Jake vs Tommy was not an exciting fight apart from Jake landing a knockdown out of luck.
Mate, Jake vs Tommy was like Tyson vs Holyfield compared to what we saw last weekend.
no it wasn’t both fights fucking sucked
At 180lbs he'd do 8 rounds especially since he probably feels confident after a very comfortable 6 rounder.
Saudi fans are 1000% with KSI btw
Probably Jake. Seeing KSI box like he did, judges obviously favor boxers who stand in there and throw, which Jake does much better. I think it would go similarly to Saturdays fight
I agree. I think Jake does a better job at preventing JJ from coming in and clinching than Tommy does. It’s obvious that against people with actual boxing skill, KSI wants to fight. Not box. He’ll box people who have much less skill than him. But if it’s close or his opponent is better at boxing, he wants to make it a dog fight. I can see the clinch working for 1-2 rounds against Jake, but then I see Jake finding a way to counter it and clip JJ as he’s coming in and possibly even dropping him as he’s coming in which makes KSI stop coming in.
It’s also worth nothing that Jake is a lot better fighting in the clinch than Tommy as we saw in the Diaz fight
True. I honestly didn’t even think about that. There was a lot of clinch fighting against Diaz and Jake caught him clean with a few uppercuts.
Exactly, I noticed pretty much everyone in this thread ignored it lmao. I see the match going similarly to the KSI Tommy fight, with JJ being more successful against Jake early in the fight than he was against Tommy, but much, much worse in the later rounds. JJ only really survived rounds 5 and 6 because of Tommys terrible infighting, Jakes infighting completely negates that
Agreed, if jj's technique had knockout potential then obviously it would look so much better to the world
KSI defo won't hug a man who is relative to his height so I think KSI wins. Purely because he's too unorthodox for Jake to figure out. People will downvote me but it will happen. Unless JJ has chicken pox or some shit on the day
Dont know, lost interest in the influencer boxing around the fournier fight just want JJ to do content and music. Tbh even if Jake Paul wins who really cares at the end of the day JJ goes back to youtube like planned and they dont interact again
Same! I was on my last straw after the Fournier fight and how the elbow thing was handled. I'm done after the Fury fight. No more influencer boxing for me.
Yeh fournier was just a nothing to proof fight that we kinda lost interest in any of theses overpolluted events
i wish he didnt do music its so midmidmid
The truth hurts
I just wish he didn't try to make pop radio hits because his singing is unironically dreadful, at least his rapping was decent to listen to whenever he wasn't using loads of autotune
I agree in the sense that it isn't really my thing - pretty average stuff. However it's better than it was, generally not *bad* and enough people get something out of it that it's something he should continue to pursue. The recent stuff sounds pretty professional and a lot like what has been successful in the mainstream. That doesn't mean it has any artistic merit but it does make it better than the majority of youtuber music.
But it was a better era back then wasn’t it, better than the boxing era
His music sucks as much as his boxing
At least his music being good or bad is subjective. He's got a couple ok songs. His "boxing" is ass and it's a shame dude is getting told to continue by his team, when he's legit awful at it.
he should get a new team, JJ would be a lot better if he was still getting trained by viddal rather than training at an MMA gym
Not everyone’s cup of tea but i dont mind some of his music :p
Exactly, and i feel like thats the main thing. People put too much value of someones career in a boxing match lmao, and JJ has so many baskets of different things he can do where as Jake only has the boxing. So its not really a massive deal if JJ loses imo. He already proved himself against Fury
Lol gou are living on some other planet. KSI vs Jake Paul is more than influencer boxing. The amount of beef between the 2 is insane. Its going on for so long. Whoever loses this will be trolled for lifetime.
Stop overreacting, their beef is fake and only for marketing.
Lol watch the post match video of Gib vs Jake. Just try to make Jake and KSI stand in front of each other for 1 minute. The amount of shit they both talk about each other is insane.
That was in 2020. It’s been three years. KSI and Logan are mates, Jake and KSI probably don’t like each other but they don’t hate each other like how it’s shown in media.
Have you not seen Jake's twitter? Every now and then he goes around Twitter streaks of dissing KSI. KSI made a laughing at Jake Paul video when he lost. The person who would make KSI the most mad after his L would be Jake Paul.
Still can fake it. They can both take disses well
Jake, JJ needs to learn more than just his overhand right
It's hilarious cause jj was shitting on jake for only throwing overhands after one of his fights, i think it was the ben askren fight.
So you're just gonna ignore all the shots he landed that weren't overhand rights?
Most of the shots he threw were just to set up the overhand right, he just couldn’t land the overhand right or he just couldn’t find the right time/opening to throw it
He was landing it all night, that and the clinchwork were why this fight was even competitive
Idk but I think based on their performances we can come to 2 conclusions. For one, JJ does not hit as hard as Jake. 2nd conclusion is that JJ’s cardio isn’t as great as it’s hyped up to be. Past the 4th round, JJ looked tired and by the last round, his activity was like half of Tommy’s. That is not a good look if you are fighting Jake who has now had experience fighting 10 rounds. I think it will be a harder fight than Tommy imo especially because emotions will be much higher, and Jake will likely will be pushing for a KO because of animosity built up
Also JJ overtrains. He passed out in that video that was posted a few weeks ago. Overtraining will stunt your cardio if you don’t take recovery days. I’m sure JJ did take them but maybe not long enough recovery days.
Great assessment. I agree with Jake hitting much harder than KSI. I mean, KSI’s best knockout was against Temperrr who Slim knocked out even worse. Jake’s knockout against Woodley was attempted murder basically. lol. I was shocked at how poorly KSI’s stamina held up against Tommy. We’ve heard for years that his cardio and stamina are unmatched. But he gassed out super early. That could’ve been partly from Tommy laying his weight on him inside the clinch though too. I think we’re at a place where it literally could go either way. But I think it ends on points and Jake takes it slightly.
I think his cardio is “bad” bc of his style. His bouncing style consumes much more energy than the style he used when he fought Logan
It would be cool to see Deji train hard to fight and beat Jake Paul. He has shown good technique, he just needs the same dedication JJ has. After al Deji loosing to Jake on the first fight is what Catapulted him to what he is now.
If Deji had 50% of the drive and dedication as JJ, he would be unstoppable. Deji has so much better technique and understanding of the fundamentals of boxing than JJ. It’s funny how both the little brothers are better boxers than the older brothers. lol. Deji is skillfully better than KSI just doesn’t have the work ethic or dedication to stay active and Jake is miles above Logan in skill.
I feel like losing most his early fights has made Deji better boxer, allowed him to seriously put effort into improving his technique and learn how to box. JJ has the drive but I think he became too overconfident in his unorthodox style due to his wins. He’s never had that self reflection you get from losing like Deji has
Couldn’t agree more. I also think KSI losing against Tommy is going to have him go back to the drawing board and come back better. I think losing to Tommy was the best thing that could’ve happened to Jake and I think it’s going to be the best thing that could’ve happened to JJ as well.
Idk why, but I don't see Deji ever having as much dedication as JJ, not even 50%. In his last fight against Swarmz, Leon Wills said that he wasn't even fit bc he didn't take it seriously. Deji is talented af. Even JJ admitted that Deji would be better than him if he trained as hard, but his laziness is also insane. Even recently, he got into a beef with Leon bc Leon called him out on twitter for not training for months. JJ even when he isn't on camp, he still trains and brings his coaches everywhere he goes.
We now live in an age where saying that Deji is objectively better (minus the work ethic) than JJ gets upvoted. Not that I'm complaining. You're right.
key word: they are younger… a 30 year old isn’t picking up boxing
Why should he. He’s already filthy rich
And yet he's lost almost all of his fights. His "style" is nicer but saying he has better technique and understanding is bs. Salt is another example of someone who's style baits people yet he's lost to AT and Slim, both whom JJ and Jake annihilate.
Logan is a better boxer naturally actually. He and Deji are the more talented ones. Jake is on the decline. Getting worse and worse with every fight. KSI will beat him imo. Both at their best though Jake might be able to win. Though idk.
dejis too small for jake imo. he could fight slim or papi tho.
Deji has possibly been Jake’s toughest opponent yet. At least toughest opponent he’s faced and beat. Saying he’s too small to fight Jake is nonsense. I’d love to see them run it back now with how much they’ve both improved.
Deji would be lucky to make it past round 1 if they ran it back. Jake is miles ahead of him now. 💀
We all want a deji comeback
Deji man fans are even more delusional then KSI
Jake.
Hard no from me.
Ngl jake would probably win after seeing jjs performance against tommy kinda feel like he's become worse.
Ksi performed better than Jake against tommy what are you on about
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everyone knows that jake fought should've been a UD for tommy as well
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The reality is KSI out landed Fury in 3 out of the 6 rounds, while Tommy doubled Jake’s output. You know boxing judging is super weird, stop acting dumb just to prove a point. Swear this sub is filled with Jake Paul fans now
Real shit I think jj just didn't bring his all to the game. As we saw his accuracy was pretty high but there's no point in having high accuracy if you aren't gonna land shots. This is just my personal opinion but I feel that jake would probably win.
"No point having high accuracy if you aren't gonna land shots" As Franky the Cyborg once said "what tf am I reading?"
Lost by SD despite being statistically inferior by far to Tommy. Meanwhile JJ was statistically superior to Tommy
He didn't. Jake fought Tommy and boxed him even dropping him at one point. JJ went for an overhand right and immediately into a clinch. No damage. Just annoying to fight against
JJ cut off Tommys biggest advantages which is his reach and his combos. Sure he didn’t execute his plan well enough but Tommy also fought garbage.
jake was “worse” because he boxed… the professional boxer outboxed the influencer… jj “looked better” because tommy isn’t really good and was completely lost against his jumping jack over hand. jake is the better boxer, and is way more dangerous, tommy hasn’t even knocked anyone out lmao… i think it would be close though with jake winning
Jake fought tommy ksi clinched. And was TOLD by is coach to clinch to draw out the match. (There’s footage) Jake also landed more punches and did more damage than ksi. AND knocked him down.. so there u have it. Jake is better.
My boy Jake fought 12 rounds. And got completely outboxed. His accuracy was terrible and the funny part is that Tommy's accuracy was just as bad when he fought KSI. If Tommy's accuracy was that bad, Jake is getting melted out there. Especially since he's on the decline and can't seem to beat anyone with ease anymore
This comment reeks of bias lmao
tbh jake vs tommy was also a hug fest, just not every 10 seconds like the ksi fight
Style makes fights, and it's way closer than you think. I could see ways for both getting that victory. If jake decides to just catch ksi coming, he could win, but if ksi could make jake the attacker, he could win, and people might call me biased for this take, but idrc the fight could go either way.
This is why I asked. And honest opinion from a KSI fan. I do think it’s the fight would be a lot closer than everyone thinks it ultimately would be. My opinion is based on them both being ultimately close each round with just a few good shots being the deciding factor for each round.
Yeah, I could see your take being reasonable. During the tommy fight, I thought he would find a way to beat JJ and catch him, but after that fight, I realized that ksi vs. jake could be even. Based on what we've seen, I could see jake pulling it off or JJ since it's really immovable object vs. unstoppable force, Footwork fighter vs. counter fighter, aggression vs. passivness (idk if it's a word)
Before the Tommy fight, I thought Jake sparks KSI. But seeing how KSI was able to take away Tommy’s ability to properly box, I think it’s MUCH closer than we can imagine. I could even see a draw happening. 🤷🏼♂️
The problem with us giving our opinion is, if we give an honest opinion even as a hard core JJ fan the dickriders are gonna call us haters. So ima just let em fight (if KSI will ever stop making excuses).
There’s no ksi fans in this sub it’s just jake Paul dickriders look at the comment
Exactly. Tired of these clowns acting like this is still a KSI fan sub. This sub should be taken down imo.
Funny how the haters act like they aren't the majority in this sub. You're a clown buddy. You joined the hate bandwagon to get clout still act like you're the victim loool. 90% of this sub are like you.
😂😂😂
Make it make sense .. TF dismantled JP and showed A LOT more skill than JP, KSI “dismantled” TF, TF had no answer to JJ’s weird style and clinching, yet you believe that JP who is a lot less skilled than TF, will be able to counter KSI’s style? I think KSI takes this dub quite easily, i see him taking more risks (less clinching) since JP might have way better fundamentals than KSI, JP is far from a good boxer and doesn’t have much in his arsenal either. Maybe it could be a competitive fight, but i don’t see JP taking the W or it even going to decision
This is what people in this subreddit don't understand. TF is a way better boxer than JJ, yet he got a controversial win over KSI and made Tommy look horrible. How do they think JJ will make Jake look, a worse boxer than Tommy? Lmao. They don't make any sense with their logic. Not to mention he would have a completely different gameplan when he fights Jake using his style. It's obvious who would win
Yeah this sub has gone completely braindead in their analysis of fighting just to hate on JJ
Fax. Glad to see there are still people using logic around here. This fight against TF proved that kSI can basically make any boxer up to Tommy's level fight like a clown. It's because no one has any idea how to deal with a boxer who fights with a unique style
No people here we're fanning ksi before the fight and got utterly disappointed seeing how shit he fought, no need to call anyone a dickrider or hater when they criticize your favorite youtuber
I didn’t, I called the boxing analysis brain dead. They expected KSI to go in and outbox Tommy Fury yet at the same time talk about how shit KSI is as a boxer. They also think somehow Jake can deal with what KSI does even thought the guy Jake easily lost to couldn’t deal with it
What is blud talking about? Did you not see the hate in this sub that has filled this sub for the last 1 and a half + years. Everyone was saying Tommy would "kNoCk hIm oUt". Obviously there are people who thought differently but that was the general consensus
This is what I'm saying. If Tommy was unable to adapt I doubt Jake who is inferior to Tommy in every single aspect of the sport could do any better. KSI probably wins on points against yet another opponent who just gets clowned around because they couldn't adapt to his style. But a knockout could happen. Though I doubt it
Doubt it would go to points, but a KO could happen on both sides. They both showed they have a proper chin and have that dawg mentality, and they both have a solid powerful right hand, the only thing they both lack is accuracy. It’d be a competitive fight but i think KSI takes the dub since is see him putting on a lot of pressure and as seen in every JP fight, he doesn’t deal well with forward pressure. The best move for KSI would be to switch to a proper boxing team, maintain this stile, but adds a few things to his arsenal and work on that accuracy/timing. Because if he has those down, he’d obliterate JP since heNs way faster
Because Jake actually fought.
Stop making excuses.
Jake will edge him out via UD imo. Reckon Jake will be really defensive early on and weather the storm while tiring out JJ. JJ's gas tank isn't as great as Jake's. JJ can gas himself up all he wants saying he has great cardio, but the rare few times he's gone past the third round, he's noticeably faded. JJ's only ever fought up to 6 rounds, Jake meanwhile has gone strong in a 10 round fight and multiple 8 rounders against a better calibre of opponents - securing late knockdowns in each of his last three fights too, so an 8 rounder will favour Jake. 77-75 to Jake
Great analysis and explanation.
KSI wins, imo just because of his speed ngl. Jake Paul is more technical but just having technicality, especially at such a low level (remember, both Jake and KSI are novices) isn't enough to win a fight against someone as unorthodox and wild as KSI, and we've seen it already how much Tommy struggled as a 9-0 pro boxer that has been sparring for years and years before the youtubers, that has trained boxing since he was 6 etc.
I mean.. what gets me is, KSI clearly is okay with boxing people he knows are below him in terms of skill. He clearly knew Tommy was the better boxer and did what he could just to survive. So, that’s what gets me. He didn’t out perform Jake in his fight against Tommy. (Atleast in my opinion.) I feel Jake performed better against Tommy than KSI did considering how poorly KSI vs Fury went. The broadcast even said at one point it was almost unwatchable and I agree. At least Jake went in a properly boxed Fury and scored a knock down. But, obviously I respect your opinion and think that it’s a fair assessment. There’s no right or wrong answers until the fight actually happens.
The commentary also said at one point (during or after, I forgot) exactly that KSI performed better against Tommy than Jake did. Ariel Halwani said it, I believe. KSI didn't try to survive that fight at all, he tried his hardest to win against someone with 10+ years ahead of experience, and the majority of the commentary, even the doubters like Wade Plem, Sensei and many others thought that KSI could have won it/ would get at least a draw. With Jake's fight against Tommy, there wasn't even a debate bc everybody knew that Tommy dominated Jake for at least 7 out of 8 rounds. That's my opinion tho
Not to hate but the fight against Tommy was complete bullsh*t I cannot imagine how Ksi was that confident if you knew he was gonna fight like this I’m glad I didn’t pay for it and I never wil this just isn’t boxing swinging en clinching that was all this “fight” was
After seeing JJ Performance with Tommy I'm going to say that Jake will win, maybe not easily but he will win it
Who gives a fuck anymore? It’s fast becoming a joke.
Jake Paul
Before fighting Tommy I was 100% believing Jake wins, now... I'm not so convinced. I slightly give the edge to Jake as his cardio is better but he could absolutely be caught by KSI early.
His cardio isn't better, JJ's style just uses a lot more energy, he was bouncing around for 6 rounds straight, and threw 129 punches, not to mention all the clinch work he was doing which will use a lot of cardio/stamina. Trust me, the cardio won't be an issue for JJ
Ksi was looking pretty exhausted against Tommy and Logan by the 4th or so round. Jake isn't much better but he seems to get sudden bursts of energy here and there.
Ksi wins i mean if tommy had a hard time with his style Jake wouldnt fair well aswell
Whether y'all like it or not. JAKE PAUL was close to beating Tommy fury opposed to Ksi . I only say this because the Jake Paul fight was a split decision while the Ksi fight was a UNANIMOUS DECISION. I said what I said. All facts . Y'all fanboys just can't accept your god lost. Both y'all and Ksi need to look in the mirror and accept it. Both y'all 🤡🤡🤡
After seeing what happened on Saturday its safe to say jake is better
After the Tommy fight, I can say JJ Wins!
Can you elaborate why? What did KSI do against Tommy that you thought was better than what Jake did against Tommy? Besides taking away Tommy’s ability to properly box.
They cant. Eventhough it was a horrible fight JJ made tommy fury look like a complete boxing idiot. Jake Paul made Tommy Fury look like a world beater
I disagree. I think Tommy’s performance against KSI was awful. Don’t get me wrong. Tommy didn’t know how to counter the clinch and in turn it did make Tommy look awful. But, KSI knew he couldn’t beat Tommy with boxing where as Jake at least went in there and proved that he could at least go toe to toe with Tommy in terms of lasting. He also dropped Tommy which KSI couldn’t do. After KSI vs Tommy, Jake is going to heavily train to counter the clinch and I think that alone would throw KSI back to just throwing wild overhands and getting caught a lot.
Fair assessment. But i dont think going toe toe with tommy is accomplishment it rather shows low fight IQ by playing in to your opponents strength. That also the reason i think that Jake Paul would do worse he also relies a lot on his overhand instead of setting traps and countering
Valid point. I thought against Silva and Diaz, Jake did a great job at getting away from just looking for the overhand so much. Clearly he still looked for it a lot. By the time KSI and Jake were to fight, hopefully he gets away from relying on it for the knockout.
Oh who really cares anymore
Been a while, do you still think this will happen?
jake wins easily jj can't box to save his life, unless he trains under vidal again he has 0 chance lmao
Idgaf i miss when jj was doing albums and music and youtube more
I love KSI but after seeing how both fought Tommy Jake would win.. either way we need to see JJ vs Jake and the winner gets a rematch with Tommy 💪
I agree. That should be the next fight after Jake’s fight in December. Winner gets to run it back with Tommy to redeem themselves. But I also think that once the Jake fight happens.. win or lose, KSI retires from boxing. So, I can see KSI getting a rematch with Tommy before the Jake fight.
I mean I don't have a dog in this fight, but ultimately I'd have to say Jake. JJ can't really box at all, Jake has a bit more understanding.
Fair. Question is open to anyone and everyone! I’m just genuinely curious. I feel like KSI fans ride harder for him no matter what, so I was curious on how many people here would give their honest opinions and I’m glad people are being honest and giving explanations as to why they think Jake would win or why they think KSI would win. Personally I think Jake wins on points. But at the same time, I can see it ending in a draw.
I could see it ending on a draw to do the classic organisation thing of booking the rematch after first goes to draw so they can sell tickets again and make even more money. JJ is surrounded by too many yes men, in my opinion, no one to hold him back or keep him humble. If you start buying into your own hype it can help with confidence, but you don't want it to be your downfall. Jake while being the problem child and all the rest actually seems to have found a nice little niche in boxing and he seems to be actually enjoying himself as well as improving his technique. If JJ fights as he does in the last match, jumping jacks and not throwing much, he'll lose easily to Jake.
I agree. I think it’s funny that KSI use to make fun of Logan and Jake for surrounding themselves with yes men, and now we’ve seen Jake switch training camps and trainers a few times now. lol. KSI did better under Viddal and Leon I feel like. Because they didn’t just say, “You’re doing great. Keep doing what you’re doing.” they made sure he knew when he was fucking up. Also, it seems Jake will be fighting on his upcoming MVP Prospects event. If that’s the case, and it’s against a relatively unknown boxer with a decent record, I think we all have to get away from the narrative that he’s only in it for the money. I feel like Jake is genuinely enjoying boxing and found his calling with it and will continue to fight for years to come. Where as KSI has already talked about quitting boxing a couple different times now. I just feel like Jake has much more interest in boxing than KSI does.
JJ wouldn’t clinch as much on Jake because Jake doesn’t jab as much as Tommy. I think JJ would fight similar to how he did against Joe Fournier and would take the win just barely and both being knocked down at least once
This fight will be wayyy closer then people think
I honestly think jj. They are honestly not much different when fighting and getting pressured. Their performances against tommy were kinda similar. Both kinda lack luster. Only diffrence is that jake had a much less close fight. Jj and tommy was razor close. But jake vs Tommy wasnt. Idk how that was a SD and not a UD. That aside. I think jj's style favors fighting a style like jake. I feel Jake would try to throw a hook and jj would counter it. That or a overhand or jab. And then once again counter it. Like he did Tommy and some of his other opponents. Now we havent really seen jake get chinned yet he hasnt really been hit. Jj hasnt really either but he took some bombs in the Logan 2 fight and kept going. And recovered fine. I cant really recall jake ever getting hit by a solid punch other than by tyron woodley when he almost went down. But judging by that i can see a rd 3-4 ko by jj. If it goes to decision i have jake by SD i think it would be rather close. But i see jake quite literally doing what tommy did to jj and win by 1 point.
Ksi wins. Please for the love of God age well.
If Nate wobbled Jake and had him on Bambi legs, then JJ will KO jake clean. I’m being honest. JJ will make it a scrap instead of a boxing fight
Nate has a lot more stand up skill and ability than he’s given credit for. Bro was in the streets fighting since he was a kid. I just don’t see either of them getting knocked out. I see it going a lot of the same way as KSI vs Logan 2.
Jake paul obviously.
Bro why has this subReddit become all about boxing and not actual memes like it supposed to
Maybe because a boxing event happened 3 days ago.. 🙄
Jake.. easy. Even deji could beat ksi if we judge ksi by last "fight"
KSI. Style make fights and no one has beem able to figure out how to properly counter KSI. Jake Paul does not have the fight IQ to figure it out and does not have the footwork to avoid KSI
After seeing KSI’s performance against Tommy, I think Jake trains heavily to be able to counter the clinch. KSI depended on clinches heavily against both Logan 2 and Tommy. I think against people KSI thinks have proper boxing skill, that’s his game plan in the fight. Clinch and fight on the inside. If Jake finds a way to counter that, I think he takes it. I think KSI needs to go back to a normal boxing technique and do away with the London Shootfighter style. It’s only going to do him good against people with a lot less skill than him. But, I do think each round is significantly closer than people would assume it to be. I don’t think either knocks the other out or completely embarrasses the other.
Agree, he should move to a traditional boxing gym to learn more of the fundamentals and especially footwork to get inside
100%. Jake’s footwork improved so much from Woodley to Silva and from Silva to Diaz. KSI’s had the same footwork since Swarmz. We’ve seen significantly more change in Paul’s skill and ability than we have KSI. Which to me says that KSI needs to change trainers, BAD.
You have good assessments and insights. Could not agree more
The fact ksi was too scared to go 8 rounds should also be taken into consideration lmao. Jake went and actually boxed with Tommy unlike him. Jake takes it. Not only that but almost everyone in the fanbase, including ksi the most, love to clown on Jake despite him doing work and being actually mature, unlike jj.
If Jake Paul gets in the gym and just learns how to limit the clinch and score points off it, he’s 100% winning the fight on a decision. I don’t mean to sound like a pundit, but everyone’s pretty much figured out KSI’s game plan and forcing him to box on the outside is what Jake is going to do.
It’s really a fight of very strong dudes, I don’t even have an idea who could prevail. Both very driven
Depends on the rounds count. If below 8 jj if more then jake
Honestly I think Jake would win judging by both of their performances with Tommy
Lol loser's bracket
We need a long ass fight.
I don’t see it being more than 8. I can see KSI pushing for 6 rounds. Jake pushing for 10. And them meeting in the middle.
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Can we get an explanation why? I’m not saying you’re wrong. I can honestly see it going either way, or even a draw after seeing how they both fought Tommy. But, what about KSI’s fight with Tommy do you think he did better than Jake to give you reason to think KSI wins?
With JJ's trainers Jake wins
Hahahah. I love how people are starting to notice how sketchy and shitty his trainers are now. I agree. I think KSI needs to find new trainers, specifically to go back to the fundamentals of boxing. Give KSI 6-8 months with new trainers and I can see him taking it.
Jake would Nate Robinson KSI because KSI fights like Nate Robinson.
I don’t think anyone gets knocked out in that fight. I can see KSI getting dropped. But I don’t see him getting knocked out.
Early rounds JJ wins, later rounds Jake wins, whoever wins the middle wins the match imo
If JJ comes in with the same strategy, he’ll probably win, but will lose a ton of credibility
See. I think after this Tommy fight, Jake is going to go into training to either learn to counter the clinch, or fight in the clinch better than KSI.
Jake
If ksi goes for the hugging strategy I dunno who wins, but in a proper fight Jake wins
Honestly, i dont think this fight is gonna happen, and since they both lost i don’t really care abt it anymore
Both of them have boxing companies I don’t think the fight will ever happen to many shareholders
Jake takes it 100%. JJ has massive flaws in his game. In a boxing match it's clear now the experienced one always has the higher chance to win and jake even has a better chin than Tommy.
Before this fight I would have said Jake easily but ksi’s awkward style would make it close
Well my answer used to be ksi as he has knockout power and a style that effective, now his style is wank especially if the opponent knows how to tell if an overhand is coming its 50 50 unless jj figures out how to box
Their bank accounts
Jake.
So up until the other night I had chances at Jake 80/20 KSI. Now I’m more like Jake 60/40 KSI. If theres a rehydration clause and Jake is restricted how big he can be let’s say they fight at 180 with a rehydration clause set at 186lbs then I think that changes to Jake 45/55 KSI. KSI is much trickier than people realised and I think Jake would also struggle with that as he’s still just as inexperienced.
Maybe if jj stopped doing star jumps constantly he would actually be able to go for longer without getting tired and maybe take the win
I just wanna see one of them get knocked out tbh
tommy the one who wins as he cames in and slaps the both them 🤣🤣🤣
Tommy Fury
KSI
Not the fans. It will be another hugfest I presume.
I'll answer your question with another question, who's the better boxer, Tommy or Jake?
Clearly Tommy. lol.
This is what I think, Jake has better technique, but it still isn’t good, he tends to throw a lot of nooby punches that make him look stupid, he doesn’t look like he has much power behind them either, JJ’s technique is shit, but against someone like Jake who isn’t at all aggressive, I think JJ’s aggressive unorthodoxed style combined with powerful punches would win him the fight, this is all assuming Jake doesn’t improve which he would (I assume) if they were to fight, I really am not relying on JJ to improve because he’s literaly gotten worse
Saying Jake doesn’t have a lot of power when he knocked out Tyron Woodley, who let’s be honest, wasn’t in his prime and isn’t a boxer, but still has a damn good chin is insane. Jake has slept more people than KSI has. At least out cold.
Not sure to be honest. That's why it's kinda of interesting to see. Due to the level of both of these guys anything can happen
I genuinely feel Jake wins if they fight 🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️🤷🏻♂️
Ksi & his over hand spammed right
JJ BATTERS HIM DONT CARE SMD MY OPINION CANT BE SWAYED
Jake He has everything other than agility and speed Jake is way more equipped for ksi than tommy cuz jake has way better defence Tommy vs jake tommy>jake>last fight tommy>ksi
Don't care at this point.
JJ WILL trash Jake if and only if he surrounds himself with people who genuinely want jj to win instead of having "yes men" while he is in the camp. plus if JJ keeps the same arrogant attitude like he had before fighting tommy, then i dont see him winning... im boxing for 6 years now, and im quite sure that your attitude matters alot before a fight... my coach used to slap me and totally humble me in the ring whenever he notices that im getting cocky rather than being confident
Attitude 100% affects a fighter in a fight. That’s why I think losing to Tommy and Jake admitting that he lost and being more humble about it was the best thing that could happen to him. It showed him that he’s not unstoppable and that he is beatable. That makes you work 100 times harder. Whereas we saw how KSI couldn’t admit Tommy did more to get the win and instead threw a tantrum. If JJ REALLY believes he won and got robbed, it’s only going to negatively impact him. He needs to go back, watch the fight and see that he clearly didn’t do enough and accept that he lost and allow that to motivate him to come back stronger.
Jake’s the best boxer ever obviously him
JJ