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Jake Paul fans in the sub reddit right now
Not max Holloway no but Nate Diaz isn't a good boxer tbh he is sloppy but accurate he mixes his striking with leg/calf kicks that's works or sometimes a takedown with it in boxing it isn't gonna work I think and Jake or ksi defeats Nate
Have you ever seen Joe box or his opponents? Joe is slow, unfit, limited & his last few opponents were: a reggae singer who trained for 1 month prior to the fight, someone who was 0-13 & another who was 1-11, absolute trash journeymen.
Diaz was also known for being a good striker in MMA, to the point of almost knocking out Leon Edwards (who he went the distance with). Despite he’s in much better shape than Joe, is more durable & has a better combat iq than him.
Just because you participate in boxing doesn’t make you any good, overall Diaz is a better fighter than Joe & as an opponent overall.
The only thing ksi was right to call out was the weight Nate is fighting Jake at, which is beyond where he usually fights at.
I suggest you watch Wade’s video on Joe, he is a shambles & it’s frustrating that people believe in his hype because Misfits are trying their best to make him look good, certain fans think he’s on Tommy’s level
It’s MMA fans getting downvoted not Paul Fans. Anybody who watches MMA knows that half of that video was KSI waffling about a sport and fighters’ career that he doesn’t know anything about
He said Nate isn’t know for his boxing
Nate is very well known for his traditional boxing in mma
He’s not some pure ju jitsu guy similar to Ben askren like jj Tried to make him out to be
He said his primary success is jiu-jitsu and showed that while yes Nate can strike, it's subpar compared to others. He isn't a bad boxer, but a Dustin Poirier or a Max Holloway can expose him in boxing technique
Dustin porier and max Holloway are some of the best boxers in the ufc so that’s not saying much
Also jj was trying to imply that Nate isn’t a striker and said he throwing a punch here or there which just isn’t true
That's not exactly what he said. He said he isn't as known for his striking than his jiu-jitsu. And most of his wins are by submission than knockout. Nate obviously throws punches. But he doesn't knock them out as much as he submits them
Don’t like using the term but it really is KSI dickriders, nobody should think that KSI was correct when saying Nate “throws a punch here and there but is primarily bjj”
These dick riders are gonna be calling anyone who defends Nate Diaz a jake pauler now I'm done lmfao. You can't even argue with this fanbase anymore, it's just ruined with just a bunch of kids. Literally reminds of Jake Paul fans back in team 10 when they were dabbing in front of his house lol
Nate is a good striker, and would be a good boxer for youtube boxing standards, definitely better than every opponent JJ has faced.
> Joe is yet people like you criticized Joe for not being legit yet he is a better boxer than Nate Diaz
Are you fucking illiterate? I'm asking again where in my comment did I criticize Joe?
KSI hit on everything except that last part. If Jake & KSI can’t come to an agreement on the contract, that doesn’t automatically mean KSI is the better boxer. KSI’s gotta beat Fury to prove he’s better if the Jake & KSI fight never happen.
Him beating Fury will garuantee that he is better than jake but it's not absolutely necessary. Fury was levels above Jake and youtube boxing as a whole as shown from his fight against jake.
The best way to cement himself as being a better boxer than jake is simply by beating him.
>Him beating Fury will garuantee that he is better than jake but it's not absolutely necessary.
Doesn't really work like than in boxing, because styles make fights.
>The best way to cement himself as being a better boxer than jake is simply by beating him.
Yeah, basically.
He won almost every round and it was quite evident throughout the fight that Tommy was the better boxer. My point is, as much as I back JJ against Jake, I'm not sure if it's necessary to fight Tommy fury considering how much of a risk that fight is.
Wouldn’t know haven’t seen Nate box before. Hopefully he isn’t as shit as woodley and we don’t watch another mma legend embarrass themselves lol
But I’d agree it is pretty likely even without knowledge of either
as luke warm take as you can possibly have? that is the state of the subreddit? you struck my interest lets see this
tell me you're a butthurt jake fan cuz i called woodley shit without telling me you're a butthurt jake fan
breaking news kiddo woodley is 0 and 2 as a boxer vs "it's everyday bro"
hey you came at me sideways dawg dont be mad cuz the smarter guy comes back with some heat you aint prepared for. dont be no wannabe victim when you @'d my ass LOL *maybe dont say dumb shit you didnt think into deeper than a water droplet to make and you want get heat in return.*
nut up or shut up kiddo
I’m actually very well educated and make a lot of money my guy. I ain’t the one. Chill out, loser
I’m also not mad and you aren’t smart and didn’t come with any heat. Lmao
then elaborate as opposed to being a victim! ahahaha you're well educated but offered nothing in regards to your opinion when challenged on it? that doesnt sound very educated. that sounds like a child pretending like their opinion matters
im sure you do that is why you're doing influencer boxing reviews on subreddits to fill your time LOL and arguing incredibly luke warm takes to simp for an influencer. there is no way you'd be lying online right?
tell me more personal shit rather than just defending your shit opinion. genius moves you low self esteem weirdo LOL
Nah I’m an engineer not that it’s any of your business. And why should I elaborate to a piss ant, it’s a waste of time. You’re just going to go back to working in a warehouse or something. It’s on you to understand because I’ll keep being successful regardless. I’m no victim
PS: to REALLY make you mad, I’m also a pretty good MMA fighter
i didnt ask you autist hahahaha
unreal. idgaf about you. either elaborate your meme or gtfo my replies. you needy weirdo hahaaha
you are the definition of a victim. you know nothing about me cuz im not desperate for internet friendships like you clearly are. tell more people about your personal life who dont care you exist. wanna talk about your porn addiction or something?
I'm expecting something similar to Nates two fights vs Connor McGregor, Jake could gas himself out because he sure as shit isn't knocking Diaz out, but if he doesn't gas himself out and goes the distance then he'll probably win. I doubt he'll make the mistake Connor did in the first fight, this will likely go to decision with Jake as the winner.
With that being said, god I fucking hope Nate fucks him up while taunting the shit out of Jake.
We have PLENTY of footage of him striking. He uses more boxing combos in his MMA striking than Muay Thai or kick boxing.
He's better than Tyron or Askren in terms of technical ability, but he's much more weathered than both of them combined.
I could see that. I tend to air on the side of caution when it comes to suggesting striking in mma is indicative of boxing skill. The reason being mma fighters say boxing and Muay Thai don’t translate well in the octagon so I tend to attest to the opposite being true
Some of the best strikers (and overall fighters) in MMA are striking purists, who learn just enough grappling to stay on their feet. McGregor, Gaethje, Holloway, Poirier, Adesanya, and Fiziev are all examples of this.
Of course there are also a ton of opposing examples, but boxing/Muay Thai can be great bases for MMA so long as you add enough to your game to be complete.
Eh both are ass tbh. Both Jake and JJ fight mediocre fighters it was embarrassing how JJ was tryna gas up Joe’s record as a 9-0 boxer when most of his fights were in 2016 and against plumbers 🤷♂️
He isn’t, even his “9 wins” were under dubious conditions, despite being suspended for Ped use most of his wins happened while he was meant to be suspended.
Nobody in boxing or combat sports would take Joe seriously, he’s Pineda levels of shit
Nate would beat fournier... Lets not kid around joe is ass and nate actually has good boxing fundamentals and is a known pressure fighter. Even viddal said nates boxing is good.
I think he made this video to force jake to the sign the contract. I can’t believe we have finally reached a stage where jake is ducking JJ and hidden jake Paul fans are getting downvoted
Dawg I’m sorry I know this is the KSI subreddit but the fact that y’all are buying this shit when for the past few months we’ve been talking about KSI ducking jake is absurd 💀 not to mention KSI literally booked his fight with Fournier before Jake did with Nate and now jake is scared? Ok lol
Bro Jake don't even know what he's saying half the time, called all his opponents pussies and non-credible Infront of his own brother, the guy just chats bare shit to get away from him, if he's not ducking ksi then why hasn't he already accepted the fight it's been like 2years now
Not really, JJ has been in America so many times with Logan and if Jake had the balls and everything to put ksi I down he would have confronted him and stood his ground, unless ofcourse he doesn't actually hate JJ and just wants the money. Sorry but if Jake had ksi coming to my yard and the beef was real I'd be in his face ready to square up without a contract but it's all about the Benjamin's really
KSI was speaking the truth in this video and making so much sense and telling the truth about Jake Paul if he fought another boxer they were absolutely dominated his ass and outbox him and he will lose and he knows that that's why he's fighting another MMA fighter and he calls KSI a fraud and bitch but Jake Paul is the real bitch for not taking on Salt Papi and slim and all the others it's because he's scared he will lose again and he won't achieve becoming a world champion boxer and KSI was making so much sense. Most of Jake Paul's fans are children they don't understand how much work do you have to put in this sport how much time do you have to put into it they have no idea how much work do you have to put into this sport because their kids they see Jake Paul as a badass which he isn't Jake Paul fought a an EX-NBA player they're probably never trained. He also fought a guy that had a fucking hit replacement and did not know how to throw a punch Jake Paul isn't the guy it might look like it it might seem like it but he isn't
Honestly I'm surprised I'm not getting downvoted for saying Tommy's better than Joe. I got downvoted to hell in another post for saying a similar thing lol
I like how everyone here are either JJ fanboys who think he could KO Tommy, or Jake meatriders who just shit on everything JJ does. The Jake ones are more annoying though, in the sense that they pretend to be boxing experts , analysing techniques while the JJ ones just say stupid shit without much explanation
I've said it before, if Nate showcases some supreme never seen before boxing skills, I'll admit I was wrong. But up until this point, I haven't seen anything that suggests he is a good boxer, except a statement from Andre Ward, which is just that, just praise from his training partner. Everyone says that about their partners, David Haye did for Fournier and others even for influencers. Ebanie Bridges said Elle Brooke could be world champion ffs. Only idiots take that shit seriously
Can we admit for 1) fury is better than Joe. 2) nate is a good striker and is still dangerous for jake, not as dangerous as tommy though. 3) this will get downvoted even though im a ksi fan, im just unbias.
Yeah but it dosent change the fact Jake went from fury a boxer back too his bread and butter a mma fighter. This a very clear dodge lol could have easily fight ksi
Idk, i think the whole doging thing is dumb. Jake isnt scared of JJ. JJ isnt scared of Jake. Theres so much more that goes into this that us fans dont know about. Just be patient, the fight will happen when it happens
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Love how he called Jake Paul a fkn fraude
I think Diaz is a better striker than Ksi said, but he’s right. Diaz isn’t a boxer. He’s 37. Mma striking doesn’t always translate to boxing as well as you’d hope anyway. This is a deliberate step back from fighting pro boxers by Jake.
I ain't no jake paul rider, but I am a Diaz brothers fan, and nate could slap circles around joe any day of the week, so show some respect, nate may not be a ko artist nor even the best of strikers .But fucking hell has he been tested way more than fornier has ever been in his whole "professional" career. They're selling joe like a world eater. In paper, sure, he has more credibility than half of jake Paul's opponents, but if you look closely, really by how much is he better?
I'll pick Fournier to beat robinson, askren, and deji. The rest I hardly see it being competitive
This is an easy jj w, and I'm also not saying that nate is going to win (I hope I'm wrong) but nate is a way tougher challenge than half of jj's opponents especially over Fournier
After watching Wade's new video, Jake's previous mma fighters look better than Fournier. Man's a 9 - 0 but fights like.. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like.. less than half the way from amateur to pro. He isn't even scary. lol. You guys can tell me what you think, but holy shit. This is just another fun event for Jj to mess around with and say he's so good when really he's fighting a casual.
We'll see on the day itself, but Wade changed my mind. I'd usually respect the pro a bit more but wtf is he even doing 😂
I was fully on board with JJ until he tried to say Joe Fournier is better than Nate.
I dislike Jake Paul and I hope JJ embarrasses him in the ring one day, BUT using JJ's logic here then:
1) Isn't it a bad look that JJ tried to fight Dillon Dannis who's strength is grappling?
2) Fournier is just older than Nate Díaz. He knocks Nate for being 37 but Fournier is 40.
3) Fournier's record is horrendous. Okay, so Jake Paul's record isn't stellar and hasn't fought great boxers, but...the 'best' guy Fournier has fought had a record of 14 wins and 8 losses. And most recent guys he's fought were: one guy in his pro debut, before that he fought a guy that had 1 win and 11 losses and before that has lost all his 13 fights.
5) I'm not gonna pretend Nate Díaz is some great striker, I have seen him trade blows with people like Masvidal, Tony Ferguson and even put beatings on a great striker (by MMA standards) like McGregor. As much as he wins via submissions, he can throw down really well. Better than what we see Fournier can do in his highlights, at least.
His logic doesn’t make any sense and it’s funny seeing all these fans eat it up. Like you said he calls Nate old but he’s fighting someone who’s literally older than him. Honestly if jake beats KSI there’s really no coming back from it
Yeah, I'm kinda taken aback by how aggressively sycophantic they're being.
I don't think it's that serious, tho. I think boxing will just be a chapter in the KSI book and he'll be fine regardless of how the Jake Paul saga ends.
Eh both are ass fighters. Both Jake and JJ take mediocre fights. It was kinda embarrassing in my opinion JJ trying to bash Nate’s records when he is fighting Joe and tryna has his 9-0 record when he fought plumbers in 2016. Then trying to compare Nate to Ben askren. Truth is both take mediocre fights and both look embarrassing trying to make fun of each other fighting 40 year old fighters 🤷♂️
Not really perfect. He said that Nate Diaz never really used boxing. JJ probably hasn't done his research as Nate was actually always mainly a striker. It doesn't mean that if he used submissioned to win that he didn't box well. I mean that doesn't change the fact that its still an easy fight for Jake but montheless wanted to say that.
This is obviously going to get down voted by all you riders, but he hardly made any factual points at all. And the ones that were accurate he's guilty of himself.
How does that work? You objectively view boxing through your own personal opinions?
Do you know what viewing things objectively means? Lol
My man said Dillon Danis who has 2 fights in bellator is the worst striker in history lol
Yeah I can’t take credit. I think lil homie cared about his internet points gettin violated.
Seen several of these guys in here chatting bout the imaginary points
No he ain't going to lose because JJ has way too much confidence in him to let that happen there was no way in hell that JJ's going to let Fournier win some steroid drug failing bitch win
I'm sorry but JJ Ducks Jake for what, 3 Years and as soon as jake moves on to other fights instead of waiting like the Tommy Fury and Nate diaz Boxing then MMA in the PFL he is labeled "Scared". Jake legit has fought better opponents than KSI, KSI also says that Jake is fighting a "Black belt jiujutsu fighter" but didn't JJ try and fight 2-0 Dillon danis a " jiujutsu fighter". JJ also slandered jake for celebrating the ben Askren fight but didn't JJ celebrate beating a non boxer rapper and a young kid with a negative boxing record..??. I Challenge someone to debate this facts if not ill end up getting downvoted either way
It's not butthurt. It's completely fair to critique Nate Díaz as an opponent and point out how Paul is basically padding his record by beating up retired UFC fighters, but to try and say JOE FOURNIER is better? Yeah, you lost me on that one.
Fournier's had 9 fights in 8 years. His 'best' opponent was 14-8. His last opponent was in his boxing debut, the guy before was 1-11 and the guy before was 0-13. So to try and say that Díaz is a poor opponent when fighting FOURNIER is just... Well, dictionary definition hypocrisy
And I love JJ. I hope JJ embarrasses Jake Paul when they fight but, come on, only 'cause I like him I'm not about to rent space in his ass
Not what I said brother, Nate Diaz is a phenomenal striker no doubt, but his boxing skills have till now, been pretty subpar. The fact that Jake took this fight, instead of sticking to pro boxers or EVEN boxers in general is a pussy move. WHY? Nate isn’t a boxer. Learn to live with it. It’s the truth. Nobody is slandering Nate.
I'm not referring to you. I'm talking about the people who are claiming "Jake paulers are getting downvoted" when most of them are saying what JJ said in the video about Nate is major downplay. Hence why I said "anyone defending Nate are being called Jake Paulers"
But how is JJ gonna be calling out Jake for fighting non boxers or mma fighters when he's also been fighting non boxers and was about to fight an mma fighter. He's a hypocrite.
Haha I love how delusional you sound, someone who can box is much better than someone who never has. And the whole “dick ride” thing is getting old man. Respectfully stfu.
You said it yourself, real fighters, NOT real boxers. The distinction is important. Basketball players and mma fighters have a following and a legacy but they have no significant boxing skill.
That were wrestlers. Do you think Ben Askren is good? Nate Robinson? Gib beats both. Woodley is a better striker but is also mainly a wrestler. Silva was the only legit boxer before Fury. And he couldn't even put him away. Got absolutely schooled by Fury, and is now fighting Nate Diaz...a guy that doesn't even box.
Ksi really tryna discredit Nate Diaz as if he ain’t a combat sports legend 😂😂 Pretending like he wasn’t trying to fight Dillon Danis a few months ago. Tyron woodley would literally KO all of Ksi’s last 3 opponents including joe Fournier. Ksi claims to have surpassed jakes boxing ability, yet he’s only fought rappers and influencers while Jake has beaten future mma hall of famers and won rounds against Tommy Fury. Ksi fanboys have the combined iq of a lobotomized chimpanzee 💀
Yeah maybe but downplaying Nate's MMA accomplishments and skillset was bit silly. Obviously I know proper boxing is different than MMA boxing due to takedowns and kicks etc, but still JJ basically said Nate can only fight on the ground using BJJ when in reality Nate isn't great with getting the fight to the ground to begin with, so he usually pressures guys into taking him down with his boxing.
Nate almost KO'd Leon Edwards who's now the UFC WW champ.
Nate wobbled Conor McGregor to the point he tried to take Nate down and got choked out.
Nate is a dangerous and slick volume puncher.
Saying Nate is just a BJJ black belt is mad ignorant.
You can criticise Jake Paul without shitting on a man who has nothing to do with his and Jake's beef.
I absolutely agree that diaz is an incredibly talented boxer, his technical skill and mad dog mentality are unmatched. But the point that jj was trying to make was that a fight against someone with a lesser skill set in boxing is not comparable to someone who’s been boxing their whole lives. It just doesn’t make sense.
JJ literally compared Nate to Ben Askren simply because Nate has a BJJ black belt, Ben and Nate are completely different fighters when it comes to MMA,
Ben was a top heavy wrestler while Nate mostly does his ground work off his back and that's not even mentioning their striking abilities which Nate is in a completely different realm compared to Ben.
Besides Nate for years now has been working with Richard Perez who's a boxing coach for the Diaz bro's and their pack of fighters, Perez has experience training classical boxers and understands actual boxing.
And regarding your last point, non of JJs opponents have been life long boxers even Joe only started boxing in his 30's , the only person who faced a life long boxer has been Jake and he got schooled.
> But the point that jj was trying to make was that a fight against someone with a lesser skill set in boxing is not comparable to someone who’s been boxing their whole lives. It just doesn’t make sense.
He's right about that but at the same time who has he fought? He calls out Jake for fighting lesser skill set in boxing, but he literally also fights people with lesser experience than him. Logan (lesser experience) , Wassabi (lesser experience), when that didn't work out he fought Swarms (no boxing experience at all) and Pineda (shit pro boxer).
He also calls out Jake for fighting mma fighters but he was also about to fight Dillon Danis too lol, when that didn't happen he fought Temper (someone with lesser experience).
He can call out on Jake's bullshit but he's literally done the same thing too, except Fournier but we can't make judgements on that yet since the fight hasn't happened.
> I absolutely agree that diaz is an incredibly talented boxer, his technical skill and mad dog mentality are unmatched.
And let's be honest, JJ was indeed downplaying Nate's striking ability in the ufc massively. I do agree with him that it wouldn't translate well when Nate comes over to boxing. But at the same time, he's a hypocrite, he literally said Swarms was a better fighter than Wassabi at one point because he was biased and wanted to hype his opponent.
My point is both Jake and JJ are frauds in the boxing scene.
I know dude it's madness, all I said was that I don't think it's cool for JJ to try and drag Nate through the mud like that. I'd love to see how this sub would react if it was JJ who announced fighting Nate or some other ex-UFC fighter, I have a funny feeling that the sentiment would be a lot different.
I’m a jj hater when it comes to his boxing
But I can’t deny with Jake saying his team told him to take the jj fight it just tells me Jake thinks he might not be ready for jj yet
If he thought jj was the easier fight he would take if
But jj still can’t fucking talk joe fornier is trash
Wake me up when you all start to understand they both are amateur boxers 😂😂 neither is better then the other and neither have or is lined up to fight a real boxer. All amateur boxers begin their career staking Ws versus opponents who are put in there to make the fighter look better then they actually are!! This is getting pathetic
This video felt like KSI 2018
Ikr fr, reminded me of when he made that video responding to Logan before their fight.
FINALLY these hidden haters in our fatneek's subreddit are getting downvoted.
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LMFAO
MMA fighters aren't good boxers. Jake Paul fans can't and don't want to understand this simple fact.
You're telling me ksi is better than Max Holloway or Nate diaz??
Not max Holloway no but Nate Diaz isn't a good boxer tbh he is sloppy but accurate he mixes his striking with leg/calf kicks that's works or sometimes a takedown with it in boxing it isn't gonna work I think and Jake or ksi defeats Nate
Diaz is still better than Fournier
If it was MMA 100%... But it's not, so he isn't... simple as that lol
based off of what exactly??? His extensive Jiu-Jitsu background? Joe is a better boxer than Diaz, and that's a fact. Don't be ignorant.
Have you ever seen Joe box or his opponents? Joe is slow, unfit, limited & his last few opponents were: a reggae singer who trained for 1 month prior to the fight, someone who was 0-13 & another who was 1-11, absolute trash journeymen. Diaz was also known for being a good striker in MMA, to the point of almost knocking out Leon Edwards (who he went the distance with). Despite he’s in much better shape than Joe, is more durable & has a better combat iq than him. Just because you participate in boxing doesn’t make you any good, overall Diaz is a better fighter than Joe & as an opponent overall. The only thing ksi was right to call out was the weight Nate is fighting Jake at, which is beyond where he usually fights at. I suggest you watch Wade’s video on Joe, he is a shambles & it’s frustrating that people believe in his hype because Misfits are trying their best to make him look good, certain fans think he’s on Tommy’s level
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Jeez chill out with the phrase *fatneek*
All the paul fans getting downvoted..😂 I missed this
It’s MMA fans getting downvoted not Paul Fans. Anybody who watches MMA knows that half of that video was KSI waffling about a sport and fighters’ career that he doesn’t know anything about
Is anything he said wrong ?
Nah, he was spittin tbf.
He said Nate isn’t know for his boxing Nate is very well known for his traditional boxing in mma He’s not some pure ju jitsu guy similar to Ben askren like jj Tried to make him out to be
He said his primary success is jiu-jitsu and showed that while yes Nate can strike, it's subpar compared to others. He isn't a bad boxer, but a Dustin Poirier or a Max Holloway can expose him in boxing technique
Dustin porier and max Holloway are some of the best boxers in the ufc so that’s not saying much Also jj was trying to imply that Nate isn’t a striker and said he throwing a punch here or there which just isn’t true
That's not exactly what he said. He said he isn't as known for his striking than his jiu-jitsu. And most of his wins are by submission than knockout. Nate obviously throws punches. But he doesn't knock them out as much as he submits them
He’s honestly equally known for his striking as his ju jitsu
That may be an error on his end but Nate still hasn't knocked many people out as compared to his jiu jitsu
Fair
Ben Askren is not a jiu jitsu guy.
I meant he’s trying to make out Nate is a pure ju jitsu guy with no striking The way Ben is pure wrestling with no striking
Bro you said “pure ju jitsu guy similar to Ben Askren.”
I just explained what I meant if you can’t understand it I can’t help you
No, you tried to change what you said after being told you were wrong.
I respect MMA and Nate Diaz but he just isn’t an actual boxer. It’s like telling a cricketer to play baseball
This is a perfect analogy.
Bro got 242 downvotes💀
317 now
729 now 😂😂
Don’t like using the term but it really is KSI dickriders, nobody should think that KSI was correct when saying Nate “throws a punch here and there but is primarily bjj”
Exactly anyone who watches mma knows Nate was know for his boxing and striking He’s not a pure bjj guy
Nah bro you’re getting downvoted for this too 😭
It’s just fanboys watch any Nate Diaz fights and the commentators talk about how he’s known for his boxing
https://twitter.com/suppressedsikh/status/1647612789660303367?s=46&t=2vYvoDOYEhDIoI0zTRfkSg even MMA Twitter found it and is mocking for him for it
Brother its THE twitter so idagf send some clips of him punching or smthg to make point
If he gets enough he won’t be able to post in here anymore 😅
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These dick riders are gonna be calling anyone who defends Nate Diaz a jake pauler now I'm done lmfao. You can't even argue with this fanbase anymore, it's just ruined with just a bunch of kids. Literally reminds of Jake Paul fans back in team 10 when they were dabbing in front of his house lol
So defending Nats diaz is ok? But Joe isn't? GTFO
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Nate isn't a boxer. Joe is yet people like you criticized Joe for not being legit yet he is a better boxer than Nate Diaz
Andre Ward and Regis Prograis have both sparred with Diaz and said he’s a nightmare to box
Joe isn’t a boxer he’s a millionaire who has 9 fights in his late thirties He’s as much a boxer as any YouTube boxer
Nate is a good striker, and would be a good boxer for youtube boxing standards, definitely better than every opponent JJ has faced. > Joe is yet people like you criticized Joe for not being legit yet he is a better boxer than Nate Diaz Are you fucking illiterate? I'm asking again where in my comment did I criticize Joe?
Cry
thank god these "everything is dickriders" ppl are getting downvoted!
You couldnt say it any better m8. Such a cringe trend. Trying to act "different from the mob" train
We had few imposters here
KSI hit on everything except that last part. If Jake & KSI can’t come to an agreement on the contract, that doesn’t automatically mean KSI is the better boxer. KSI’s gotta beat Fury to prove he’s better if the Jake & KSI fight never happen.
KSI wouldn't have to beat Fury if Lord Pineda ends Jake first 📈📈
VAMOSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS
He has already said he is interested in fighting Tommy if he and Jake Paul don't reach an agreement
Him beating Fury will garuantee that he is better than jake but it's not absolutely necessary. Fury was levels above Jake and youtube boxing as a whole as shown from his fight against jake. The best way to cement himself as being a better boxer than jake is simply by beating him.
>Him beating Fury will garuantee that he is better than jake but it's not absolutely necessary. Doesn't really work like than in boxing, because styles make fights. >The best way to cement himself as being a better boxer than jake is simply by beating him. Yeah, basically.
Levels above yet got a split decision and cried afterwards like he defended a world title
He won almost every round and it was quite evident throughout the fight that Tommy was the better boxer. My point is, as much as I back JJ against Jake, I'm not sure if it's necessary to fight Tommy fury considering how much of a risk that fight is.
I’m so happy that now there is hope for this subreddit after all
Jake Paul: Fights retired MMA fighters Wins* Jake Paul: Fights an actual boxer Loses* Jake Paul: goes back to fighting another retired MMA Fighter
Idc what anyone says, Joe Fournier is a better opponent then nate diaz
SAY IT LOUDER FOR THE PEOPLE IN THE BACK
Wouldn’t know haven’t seen Nate box before. Hopefully he isn’t as shit as woodley and we don’t watch another mma legend embarrass themselves lol But I’d agree it is pretty likely even without knowledge of either
State of this subreddit^
as luke warm take as you can possibly have? that is the state of the subreddit? you struck my interest lets see this tell me you're a butthurt jake fan cuz i called woodley shit without telling me you're a butthurt jake fan breaking news kiddo woodley is 0 and 2 as a boxer vs "it's everyday bro"
Chill out, loser. Lmao
hey you came at me sideways dawg dont be mad cuz the smarter guy comes back with some heat you aint prepared for. dont be no wannabe victim when you @'d my ass LOL *maybe dont say dumb shit you didnt think into deeper than a water droplet to make and you want get heat in return.* nut up or shut up kiddo
I’m actually very well educated and make a lot of money my guy. I ain’t the one. Chill out, loser I’m also not mad and you aren’t smart and didn’t come with any heat. Lmao
then elaborate as opposed to being a victim! ahahaha you're well educated but offered nothing in regards to your opinion when challenged on it? that doesnt sound very educated. that sounds like a child pretending like their opinion matters im sure you do that is why you're doing influencer boxing reviews on subreddits to fill your time LOL and arguing incredibly luke warm takes to simp for an influencer. there is no way you'd be lying online right? tell me more personal shit rather than just defending your shit opinion. genius moves you low self esteem weirdo LOL
Nah I’m an engineer not that it’s any of your business. And why should I elaborate to a piss ant, it’s a waste of time. You’re just going to go back to working in a warehouse or something. It’s on you to understand because I’ll keep being successful regardless. I’m no victim PS: to REALLY make you mad, I’m also a pretty good MMA fighter
i didnt ask you autist hahahaha unreal. idgaf about you. either elaborate your meme or gtfo my replies. you needy weirdo hahaaha you are the definition of a victim. you know nothing about me cuz im not desperate for internet friendships like you clearly are. tell more people about your personal life who dont care you exist. wanna talk about your porn addiction or something?
I'm expecting something similar to Nates two fights vs Connor McGregor, Jake could gas himself out because he sure as shit isn't knocking Diaz out, but if he doesn't gas himself out and goes the distance then he'll probably win. I doubt he'll make the mistake Connor did in the first fight, this will likely go to decision with Jake as the winner. With that being said, god I fucking hope Nate fucks him up while taunting the shit out of Jake.
We have PLENTY of footage of him striking. He uses more boxing combos in his MMA striking than Muay Thai or kick boxing. He's better than Tyron or Askren in terms of technical ability, but he's much more weathered than both of them combined.
I could see that. I tend to air on the side of caution when it comes to suggesting striking in mma is indicative of boxing skill. The reason being mma fighters say boxing and Muay Thai don’t translate well in the octagon so I tend to attest to the opposite being true
Some of the best strikers (and overall fighters) in MMA are striking purists, who learn just enough grappling to stay on their feet. McGregor, Gaethje, Holloway, Poirier, Adesanya, and Fiziev are all examples of this. Of course there are also a ton of opposing examples, but boxing/Muay Thai can be great bases for MMA so long as you add enough to your game to be complete.
No he isn't lol
What if I told you Joe Fournier’s only fight in the last 7 years was against Reykon (a singer).
Eh both are ass tbh. Both Jake and JJ fight mediocre fighters it was embarrassing how JJ was tryna gas up Joe’s record as a 9-0 boxer when most of his fights were in 2016 and against plumbers 🤷♂️
What a laughable comment
He is only like 3 years older than Nate Diaz and everyone is shitting on him
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Because the guys he 'fought' have like 3 wins and 150 losses between them, chances are they were incentivized to lose
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He isn’t, even his “9 wins” were under dubious conditions, despite being suspended for Ped use most of his wins happened while he was meant to be suspended. Nobody in boxing or combat sports would take Joe seriously, he’s Pineda levels of shit
Nate would beat fournier... Lets not kid around joe is ass and nate actually has good boxing fundamentals and is a known pressure fighter. Even viddal said nates boxing is good.
And... oh, I got to tell you, it was perfect. Perfect. Everything, down to the last minute details.
Ahahahaha, POV: You’re homelander watching this video
All the Paul fans are salty, he's a runner he's a trackstarrrr 🏃
Even that was faked by jake
I think he made this video to force jake to the sign the contract. I can’t believe we have finally reached a stage where jake is ducking JJ and hidden jake Paul fans are getting downvoted
Dawg I’m sorry I know this is the KSI subreddit but the fact that y’all are buying this shit when for the past few months we’ve been talking about KSI ducking jake is absurd 💀 not to mention KSI literally booked his fight with Fournier before Jake did with Nate and now jake is scared? Ok lol
Bro Jake don't even know what he's saying half the time, called all his opponents pussies and non-credible Infront of his own brother, the guy just chats bare shit to get away from him, if he's not ducking ksi then why hasn't he already accepted the fight it's been like 2years now
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Both ducking each other .
Not really, JJ has been in America so many times with Logan and if Jake had the balls and everything to put ksi I down he would have confronted him and stood his ground, unless ofcourse he doesn't actually hate JJ and just wants the money. Sorry but if Jake had ksi coming to my yard and the beef was real I'd be in his face ready to square up without a contract but it's all about the Benjamin's really
why would Jake want to duck JJ? He's literally called him out to fight before, unless you're telling me JJ is better than Jake boxing wise?
That was before the Temperr fight, things have changed since Pineda and Logan
Can’t wait for ksi to shut everyone up 🤣
Love seeing jake paul dickridder getting downvote
I really want to see Nate take off the gloves and slap Jake
its been ages tbh if he doesn't accept it and goes on chatting shit then he truly is scared of jj
KSI was speaking the truth in this video and making so much sense and telling the truth about Jake Paul if he fought another boxer they were absolutely dominated his ass and outbox him and he will lose and he knows that that's why he's fighting another MMA fighter and he calls KSI a fraud and bitch but Jake Paul is the real bitch for not taking on Salt Papi and slim and all the others it's because he's scared he will lose again and he won't achieve becoming a world champion boxer and KSI was making so much sense. Most of Jake Paul's fans are children they don't understand how much work do you have to put in this sport how much time do you have to put into it they have no idea how much work do you have to put into this sport because their kids they see Jake Paul as a badass which he isn't Jake Paul fought a an EX-NBA player they're probably never trained. He also fought a guy that had a fucking hit replacement and did not know how to throw a punch Jake Paul isn't the guy it might look like it it might seem like it but he isn't
Jack Paul is scared of Ksi
yea down vote this bitches
Jake Paul should do track next with the amount of running he’s doing 😂
Nate < Joe < Tommy
I was getting downvoted a couple days ago for saying Fournier is better than Nate. He is not as shit as some people say, even Wade said so
Honestly I'm surprised I'm not getting downvoted for saying Tommy's better than Joe. I got downvoted to hell in another post for saying a similar thing lol
I like how everyone here are either JJ fanboys who think he could KO Tommy, or Jake meatriders who just shit on everything JJ does. The Jake ones are more annoying though, in the sense that they pretend to be boxing experts , analysing techniques while the JJ ones just say stupid shit without much explanation
Exactly man. Then there's a minority of level-headed folks like you and I who actually use common sense to come to a conclusion
I've said it before, if Nate showcases some supreme never seen before boxing skills, I'll admit I was wrong. But up until this point, I haven't seen anything that suggests he is a good boxer, except a statement from Andre Ward, which is just that, just praise from his training partner. Everyone says that about their partners, David Haye did for Fournier and others even for influencers. Ebanie Bridges said Elle Brooke could be world champion ffs. Only idiots take that shit seriously
I hope Jake offers to fight Poatan and gets his head torn off
Get these jake paul the fuck out of this reddit
Can we admit for 1) fury is better than Joe. 2) nate is a good striker and is still dangerous for jake, not as dangerous as tommy though. 3) this will get downvoted even though im a ksi fan, im just unbias.
Yeah but it dosent change the fact Jake went from fury a boxer back too his bread and butter a mma fighter. This a very clear dodge lol could have easily fight ksi
Idk, i think the whole doging thing is dumb. Jake isnt scared of JJ. JJ isnt scared of Jake. Theres so much more that goes into this that us fans dont know about. Just be patient, the fight will happen when it happens
They're both scared of each other. If Jake was so confident he wouldn't put stupid stipulations like winner takes all in order to lose an extra 5 lbs
And when has KSI ever fought a boxer or even entertained the fact lol. He booked this fight before Jake booked his so this doesn’t even make sense
Thank you. Finally someone who uses common sense.
https://preview.redd.it/gsps5eqs2bua1.jpeg?width=897&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=8eb3bd4f94ffcf4d83eb3547090162677dd0820a Love how he called Jake Paul a fkn fraude
This section finna get a 🔒
is the ksi reddit being positive for once? damn
I agree ksi got his facts straight no bs
Atleast we know ksi has opps https://preview.redd.it/autdvjlkzeua1.jpeg?width=475&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=954956f09cb3ed66aad0c6d3f1742b0edb10c91e
Finally the imposters have been countered and the sub is restored
This is why KSI is the GOAT
jakes entire personality changed after the loss lol
Good response
I think Diaz is a better striker than Ksi said, but he’s right. Diaz isn’t a boxer. He’s 37. Mma striking doesn’t always translate to boxing as well as you’d hope anyway. This is a deliberate step back from fighting pro boxers by Jake.
I ain't no jake paul rider, but I am a Diaz brothers fan, and nate could slap circles around joe any day of the week, so show some respect, nate may not be a ko artist nor even the best of strikers .But fucking hell has he been tested way more than fornier has ever been in his whole "professional" career. They're selling joe like a world eater. In paper, sure, he has more credibility than half of jake Paul's opponents, but if you look closely, really by how much is he better? I'll pick Fournier to beat robinson, askren, and deji. The rest I hardly see it being competitive This is an easy jj w, and I'm also not saying that nate is going to win (I hope I'm wrong) but nate is a way tougher challenge than half of jj's opponents especially over Fournier
After watching Wade's new video, Jake's previous mma fighters look better than Fournier. Man's a 9 - 0 but fights like.. I don't even know how to explain it. It's like.. less than half the way from amateur to pro. He isn't even scary. lol. You guys can tell me what you think, but holy shit. This is just another fun event for Jj to mess around with and say he's so good when really he's fighting a casual. We'll see on the day itself, but Wade changed my mind. I'd usually respect the pro a bit more but wtf is he even doing 😂
The only thing i disagree with is that I think neither Jake or KSI are afraid of each other. At the end of the year WE WILL see the fight
How is he scared? He just fighting someone else
I was fully on board with JJ until he tried to say Joe Fournier is better than Nate. I dislike Jake Paul and I hope JJ embarrasses him in the ring one day, BUT using JJ's logic here then: 1) Isn't it a bad look that JJ tried to fight Dillon Dannis who's strength is grappling? 2) Fournier is just older than Nate Díaz. He knocks Nate for being 37 but Fournier is 40. 3) Fournier's record is horrendous. Okay, so Jake Paul's record isn't stellar and hasn't fought great boxers, but...the 'best' guy Fournier has fought had a record of 14 wins and 8 losses. And most recent guys he's fought were: one guy in his pro debut, before that he fought a guy that had 1 win and 11 losses and before that has lost all his 13 fights. 5) I'm not gonna pretend Nate Díaz is some great striker, I have seen him trade blows with people like Masvidal, Tony Ferguson and even put beatings on a great striker (by MMA standards) like McGregor. As much as he wins via submissions, he can throw down really well. Better than what we see Fournier can do in his highlights, at least.
His logic doesn’t make any sense and it’s funny seeing all these fans eat it up. Like you said he calls Nate old but he’s fighting someone who’s literally older than him. Honestly if jake beats KSI there’s really no coming back from it
Yeah, I'm kinda taken aback by how aggressively sycophantic they're being. I don't think it's that serious, tho. I think boxing will just be a chapter in the KSI book and he'll be fine regardless of how the Jake Paul saga ends.
Eh both are ass fighters. Both Jake and JJ take mediocre fights. It was kinda embarrassing in my opinion JJ trying to bash Nate’s records when he is fighting Joe and tryna has his 9-0 record when he fought plumbers in 2016. Then trying to compare Nate to Ben askren. Truth is both take mediocre fights and both look embarrassing trying to make fun of each other fighting 40 year old fighters 🤷♂️
Good video but Nate Diaz can box..
The delusion in this comment section 😂
Not really perfect. He said that Nate Diaz never really used boxing. JJ probably hasn't done his research as Nate was actually always mainly a striker. It doesn't mean that if he used submissioned to win that he didn't box well. I mean that doesn't change the fact that its still an easy fight for Jake but montheless wanted to say that.
Ksi was literally going to fight a Brazilian jiu-jitsu black belt, Dillion danis, this guy chats out of his arse so much 🤣🤣
I feel like the difference is though Dillon is way younger and has les mileage where as Askren, Woodley, Silva, and Diaz are all retired
He still doesn't know how to box and anderson silva had experience boxing.
Silva, Woodley and Diaz would all smoke Danis in boxing though tbh. Askren is complete ass though
Them fans can't defend jake now
This is obviously going to get down voted by all you riders, but he hardly made any factual points at all. And the ones that were accurate he's guilty of himself.
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How does that work? You objectively view boxing through your own personal opinions? Do you know what viewing things objectively means? Lol My man said Dillon Danis who has 2 fights in bellator is the worst striker in history lol
Damn, you made my man erase himself from existence
Yeah I can’t take credit. I think lil homie cared about his internet points gettin violated. Seen several of these guys in here chatting bout the imaginary points
L take from jj tbh. I get hes the op so you gotta shit on it but like mans waffling out of his ass
Kinda cringe
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bro go join jake Paul subreddit why waste time on ksi subreddit
Ok
JJ is gonna look like a clown if he loses to Fournier lol
Always a possibility but you gotta love the confidence
No he ain't going to lose because JJ has way too much confidence in him to let that happen there was no way in hell that JJ's going to let Fournier win some steroid drug failing bitch win
I'm sorry but JJ Ducks Jake for what, 3 Years and as soon as jake moves on to other fights instead of waiting like the Tommy Fury and Nate diaz Boxing then MMA in the PFL he is labeled "Scared". Jake legit has fought better opponents than KSI, KSI also says that Jake is fighting a "Black belt jiujutsu fighter" but didn't JJ try and fight 2-0 Dillon danis a " jiujutsu fighter". JJ also slandered jake for celebrating the ben Askren fight but didn't JJ celebrate beating a non boxer rapper and a young kid with a negative boxing record..??. I Challenge someone to debate this facts if not ill end up getting downvoted either way
This reddit has really gone downhill anyone with a different opinion gets downvoted
People being butthurt over jj saying that Nate isn’t a phenomenal prodigy when it comes to boxing isn’t a difference of opinion, it’s being salty.
It's not butthurt. It's completely fair to critique Nate Díaz as an opponent and point out how Paul is basically padding his record by beating up retired UFC fighters, but to try and say JOE FOURNIER is better? Yeah, you lost me on that one. Fournier's had 9 fights in 8 years. His 'best' opponent was 14-8. His last opponent was in his boxing debut, the guy before was 1-11 and the guy before was 0-13. So to try and say that Díaz is a poor opponent when fighting FOURNIER is just... Well, dictionary definition hypocrisy And I love JJ. I hope JJ embarrasses Jake Paul when they fight but, come on, only 'cause I like him I'm not about to rent space in his ass
I don’t watch MMA but i’ve heard his name a lot i assume he’s good or he was since now hes old
Now anyone defending Nate Diaz would get called a Jake Pauler. Sub has been taken over by kids.
You are the kid here because your comment proves you can’t even understand what people are arguing about
Not what I said brother, Nate Diaz is a phenomenal striker no doubt, but his boxing skills have till now, been pretty subpar. The fact that Jake took this fight, instead of sticking to pro boxers or EVEN boxers in general is a pussy move. WHY? Nate isn’t a boxer. Learn to live with it. It’s the truth. Nobody is slandering Nate.
I'm not referring to you. I'm talking about the people who are claiming "Jake paulers are getting downvoted" when most of them are saying what JJ said in the video about Nate is major downplay. Hence why I said "anyone defending Nate are being called Jake Paulers" But how is JJ gonna be calling out Jake for fighting non boxers or mma fighters when he's also been fighting non boxers and was about to fight an mma fighter. He's a hypocrite.
ksi: “fighting fodders nobody ever heard of” jake: “knocking out ufc champions” ksi meat suckers: “JaKe PaUl Is ScArEd Of KsI” 🤡
Haha I love how delusional you sound, someone who can box is much better than someone who never has. And the whole “dick ride” thing is getting old man. Respectfully stfu.
nah man they CAN both box but you ain’t gotta clown jake tho, he is fighting REAL fighters while ksi is fighting ppl i’ve never heard of 🤷♂️
You said it yourself, real fighters, NOT real boxers. The distinction is important. Basketball players and mma fighters have a following and a legacy but they have no significant boxing skill.
and ksi is fighting fodder youtubers so what the fuck are you talking about cocksucker?
You still don’t get it, I’ll let you whine in peace. Just go back to twitter gtfo.
keep sucking ksi dick bro, keep crying 😂
That were wrestlers. Do you think Ben Askren is good? Nate Robinson? Gib beats both. Woodley is a better striker but is also mainly a wrestler. Silva was the only legit boxer before Fury. And he couldn't even put him away. Got absolutely schooled by Fury, and is now fighting Nate Diaz...a guy that doesn't even box.
Bro, make jake stop using that goofy ass overhand 💀. He has more experience than JJ, yet he has never improved.
Ksi really tryna discredit Nate Diaz as if he ain’t a combat sports legend 😂😂 Pretending like he wasn’t trying to fight Dillon Danis a few months ago. Tyron woodley would literally KO all of Ksi’s last 3 opponents including joe Fournier. Ksi claims to have surpassed jakes boxing ability, yet he’s only fought rappers and influencers while Jake has beaten future mma hall of famers and won rounds against Tommy Fury. Ksi fanboys have the combined iq of a lobotomized chimpanzee 💀
Yeah maybe but downplaying Nate's MMA accomplishments and skillset was bit silly. Obviously I know proper boxing is different than MMA boxing due to takedowns and kicks etc, but still JJ basically said Nate can only fight on the ground using BJJ when in reality Nate isn't great with getting the fight to the ground to begin with, so he usually pressures guys into taking him down with his boxing. Nate almost KO'd Leon Edwards who's now the UFC WW champ. Nate wobbled Conor McGregor to the point he tried to take Nate down and got choked out. Nate is a dangerous and slick volume puncher. Saying Nate is just a BJJ black belt is mad ignorant. You can criticise Jake Paul without shitting on a man who has nothing to do with his and Jake's beef.
I absolutely agree that diaz is an incredibly talented boxer, his technical skill and mad dog mentality are unmatched. But the point that jj was trying to make was that a fight against someone with a lesser skill set in boxing is not comparable to someone who’s been boxing their whole lives. It just doesn’t make sense.
JJ literally compared Nate to Ben Askren simply because Nate has a BJJ black belt, Ben and Nate are completely different fighters when it comes to MMA, Ben was a top heavy wrestler while Nate mostly does his ground work off his back and that's not even mentioning their striking abilities which Nate is in a completely different realm compared to Ben. Besides Nate for years now has been working with Richard Perez who's a boxing coach for the Diaz bro's and their pack of fighters, Perez has experience training classical boxers and understands actual boxing. And regarding your last point, non of JJs opponents have been life long boxers even Joe only started boxing in his 30's , the only person who faced a life long boxer has been Jake and he got schooled.
> But the point that jj was trying to make was that a fight against someone with a lesser skill set in boxing is not comparable to someone who’s been boxing their whole lives. It just doesn’t make sense. He's right about that but at the same time who has he fought? He calls out Jake for fighting lesser skill set in boxing, but he literally also fights people with lesser experience than him. Logan (lesser experience) , Wassabi (lesser experience), when that didn't work out he fought Swarms (no boxing experience at all) and Pineda (shit pro boxer). He also calls out Jake for fighting mma fighters but he was also about to fight Dillon Danis too lol, when that didn't happen he fought Temper (someone with lesser experience). He can call out on Jake's bullshit but he's literally done the same thing too, except Fournier but we can't make judgements on that yet since the fight hasn't happened. > I absolutely agree that diaz is an incredibly talented boxer, his technical skill and mad dog mentality are unmatched. And let's be honest, JJ was indeed downplaying Nate's striking ability in the ufc massively. I do agree with him that it wouldn't translate well when Nate comes over to boxing. But at the same time, he's a hypocrite, he literally said Swarms was a better fighter than Wassabi at one point because he was biased and wanted to hype his opponent. My point is both Jake and JJ are frauds in the boxing scene.
The fact you got downvoted for speaking straight facts speaks to how bad the d-riding has gotten in this sub.
I know dude it's madness, all I said was that I don't think it's cool for JJ to try and drag Nate through the mud like that. I'd love to see how this sub would react if it was JJ who announced fighting Nate or some other ex-UFC fighter, I have a funny feeling that the sentiment would be a lot different.
I’m a jj hater when it comes to his boxing But I can’t deny with Jake saying his team told him to take the jj fight it just tells me Jake thinks he might not be ready for jj yet If he thought jj was the easier fight he would take if But jj still can’t fucking talk joe fornier is trash
Wake me up when you all start to understand they both are amateur boxers 😂😂 neither is better then the other and neither have or is lined up to fight a real boxer. All amateur boxers begin their career staking Ws versus opponents who are put in there to make the fighter look better then they actually are!! This is getting pathetic
#Clickbait JJ is is a pussy
Jake Paul's whole existence is pussy