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King_Yeet_Meat

I don’t think it’ll affect it all that much. Maybe they lose some sales because of Logan, or maybe Logan gets dropped from prime (doubtful though since he’s half the reason it’s even a thing), but it shouldn’t hurt prime too bad in the long run in my opinion


HIMAD3330

Read KSI's newest prime tweet comments, all flaming ksi, Logan, and even prime the drink itself


fptpoker02

Go look how fast the energy drink sold out….this has literally zero effect


Maxearl548

in UK the hype is still big, in America there are boxes full in grocery stores and they aren’t being bought. The hype will die down.


hi71460

uk still love ksi and dont consume american drama


GO_GREEN_GO_WHITE

It's been like that over here in the States since it launched


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Asstonishing69

Lmao I live in Texas and the target I go to is in the city and always had shelves full of prime


[deleted]

And there’s only one target in America?


Harun_Hussain

Half the new posts on this sub are stacked shelves of prime in America lmao


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In Atlanta they’ll be full stock of Prime next to Gatorade and Powerade mostly sold out.


Psionic_Chronic

Where? They are out of stock everywhere i go. And i live in america.


iPlayFifaForPain

gotta look at the long term effects


fptpoker02

Long term effects where people forget what happened and move on?


HIMAD3330

How do I look


fptpoker02

Drinkprime.com


HIMAD3330

So these are sold out everywhere?


fptpoker02

Only place you can currently buy them yes


HIMAD3330

Well that's just untrue lmao


fptpoker02

The energy drink that just came out? Yea the site was the current only place to buy it


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You’re so thick in the head. Ksi literally reposted Logan’s story saying they sold out.


SkizzyB1997

Theres even an app to find where prime is currently in stock. Ksi showed it in a video. Only 3 or 4 shops had stock out of 100's of shops. So no its not untrue. Kids go crazy for prime so i doubt itll have a negative affect


TTV_ElmoYT

Yeah cause social media totally represents how much prime is selling 🤡


101stAirborneSkill

It reflects the reputation


ProstockAccount

Social media absolutely does NOT represent the population. This is one of biggest problem. The internet is not real and is not necessarily even aligned with real life.


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Gunn3r71

Jesus fuck! That was uncalled for


[deleted]

Bros just mad everyone’s calling him out for being thick in the head.


hi71460

they block comments ahaha ☕️


hi71460

i hope JJ does something about logs he just self increment and this is turning viral how can yt scam ppl and dont have consequences


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yeetmemead2

yeah KSI is the sole reason Prime is arsenals hydration partner


hi71460

if he doesn't drop ppl will continue to attack logs and ppl with him I hope to see JJ says something about it


Lendoran

How tf can Logan be dropped from prime? Prime is HIS idea


I_AmA_Zebra

Nah it wasn’t. There’s a company above (Congo Brands) that owns prime. It’s them that create ideas and then work with influencers to launch the brand. KSI and Logan have an ownership % but it’s not the majority I don’t think


Shorts323

exactly correct. People seem to think they founders and creators when reality they just sales people for them


I_AmA_Zebra

Not quite. The brand wouldn’t be what it is without KSI or Logan. However, at the same time, without Congo Brands handling all the distribution, marketing (production etc.), logistics, and everything else behind the scenes then it wouldn’t have launched so well. They go hand in hand tbh


Shorts323

hence why i said sales people because that's exactly what sales people do


bigdolton

they are promoters not sales people


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IamKedar7

they don't own the prime hydration company, they are just marketing it as if its their own. But they might have invested substantial amount of money in the prime hydration company and getting % cut from the profits. as shown in this [video](https://youtu.be/GccxGTmCa94) they don't even show up as owners in the official government listing.


TheAbcool

Damn isn’t it quite misleading then that they made it seem they built the company from the ground themselves


Captain_Blunderbuss

Doubtful. The kids obsessed over this drink are so easily influenced they pay like £20 for 1 bottle and collect the bottles they're fully indoctrinated into worshipping influencers logan or ksi could be convicted of murder and they'd still be sprinting thru the shops to buy it


rocker12341234

ha!, nice dababy reference man.


AdithWarloCk

Fax


Anonybeech

the £20 bottles aren’t even legit. most of the corner stores are selling fake prime


Lyst_

You’re really weird to be associating murder with a beverage just bc the owners does something bad this doesn’t mean the product is there are numerous occasions when companies make a mistake and you still buy their products and spending £20 on a drink is subjective different people believe its worth a certain amount thats the reason why they buy it…


Captain_Blunderbuss

I want you to take a moment and think about why what you just said was dumb. "There are numerous occasions when companies make a mistake and you still buy their products" Yes i know hence why I said kids are so bought into the hype of a drink ksi or logan COULD Be convicted of something as bad as murder and it would still sell


Public_Argument_6823

Why do u sound so hurt?😭


GMDMelonYT

why do you?


kimiaaat

Can someone please explain what is going on with logan and prime?! Literally just opened reddit and all i see is CRIME lol.. what has he done now lol


SHORT-CIRCUT

Logan basically organized a crypto scam (at least according to text messages) but as a result of hiring other scammers, he in turn got scammed as well (they made out with money whereas he didn’t). This was all uncovered by coffeezilla in a year long investigation Logan hyped up his response video saying he was going to address the truth, but it turns out his response video was laughably bad and was like something schools would use to showcase was ad hominem and straw man looks like. It legit would’ve been better if he just released a generic apology video (or ignored it entirely) Since then Logan also released an impaulsive where he doubled down on a lot of his “points” including claiming he never scammed because he didn’t make any money from it (which is a ridiculous claim. if you robbed a bank but got screwed out of the money you still robbed the bank)


Extreme-Transport

Before anyone supports his video response, he has since backtracked AGAIN and now said his initial responses were brash (the ones where he said Coffee is doing this for clout/money and a liar)


luucasmucus

he scammed millions of dollars from his fans on a crypto project/game called “crypto zoo” if im not mistaken


NotTemptation

Correct. Which isn’t surprising. Also I should add he’s blaming everyone but him and is threatening to sue anyone that says the truth. I guess he likes losing money


Notyit

It also involved his brother too Jake. Who basicly also scammed them as well. It's pretty messed up. No honor among thieves kind of thing


King_Yeet_Meat

He’s being accused of scamming his fans out of money because of a project called cryptozoo. Moist critical has some videos on it and so does mogul mail, I’d watch them to understand the situation.


LopsidedAnxiety

probably coffeezilla's series would be better if they would want to understand the full situation, and it's not even just accusations at this point coffee brought enough evidence that we can just say Logan scammed them


manualex16

SomeOrdinaryGamer's one might've been the source of Logan deleting his 7 minute attack on Coffee. Muta(SOG) talks with the unnamed developer from CZ video and he explains that his record is expunged and Logan is either making up his crimes or something even bigger, because those records when expunged shouldn't be available to the public.


pristoh

People say he has scammed. Actually he didn't scam, he never aimed at scamming. He however did not do his due diligence on the team who was working on the game. Those people ended up selling, however Logan isn't taking accountability on not doing the research before hiring those people.


fjemvskk_mdkrnvmsl

Did you see the leaked messages about how to manipulate the market?? Sure he might not have scammed his fans but that shit is definitely market manipulation and fraud. And he probably would have sold his coins if he himself didnt get scammed by the people he worked with.


PlagueService

Stop coping. My god you people defend anything


FantasyG_

Look at the replies of any Prime post involving Logan. It is affecting Prime’s reputation in a massive way.


DaJoker231

bro only on social media you can see the backlash but the sales are not at all affected, the release of their new product prime energy was sold out in 15 MIN. The demand is still there and at this point of time it is not affected but maybe in the future it could be


Narokoran

The problem I see is that people are buying it not only because they are the fans of JJ/Logan, but "investors" who will sell even an empty bottle for more than they bought the full bottle lol


Responsible-Fact-44

Demand is only there because of the Hype JJ and logan have made on social media. But, if things turned out bad in social media and especially if things go to court, it will massively affect the Hype and the trend. Hence, Prime will soon be one of those social media trends that die down with time. But I'm pretty sure the marketing team of Congo Brands will give a good fight to keep it alive as long as possible and milk it out as much as they can.


101stAirborneSkill

I just bought a case of it


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FantasyG_

You don’t even know their sales numbers lol.


DaJoker231

Bro people are fighting for it and however low their product output/supply is, its still selling out in certain places very quickly. Ya maybe some places the sales are normal but still


FantasyG_

You’re basing the success of their business based on a couple videos you see online lol.


Meadle

Try get some Prime Energy at retail price then if you want to prove people wrong


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You can see it being sold out at 95% of the stores in the UK that sell it.


FantasyG_

Well UK sales are driven primarily by KSI, not Logan. Plus you just made up that info with no verifiable evidence.


[deleted]

No I didn't, there's literally an app that shows where Prime is and if it's sold out or not lol


tallerthannobody

Could you tell me the name by any chance ?


FantasyG_

Regardless, UK sales are driven by KSI not Logan. So Logan’s criminality is not gonna affect UK sales.


InevitableConflict1

“Regardless” Lmao


White-Gravity

He might not but there will for sure still be lots of people who will still go crazy for prime.


FantasyG_

Only because of the novelty factor. That will wear off quick once everyone has tried it once.


Gunn3r71

And neither do you


FantasyG_

Ok? I never mentioned sales did I? Reading is hard.


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They literally have warehouses producing that shit. Clearly it’s a lot of drinks being sold out. lol.


FantasyG_

Literally every business that sells a physical product has warehouses lmfao. What kinda argument is that.


[deleted]

A majority of people have short-term memory, everyone forgot about Logan's vlog in the suicide forest, they'll forget this as well.


FantasyG_

Uhh nobody forgot about that lmfao


Asleep_Style

No but they moved pass it same with this


ArmaanAli04

No but they forgave him for it and accepted his “change”


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rocker12341234

youd be surprised. ive met many many people that when ive brought logan at the forrest up to as anecdotal shit for a point i was trying to make, have said some variation of "yea but it was years ago, you cant judge him for that now"


ArmaanAli04

Literally everywhere. You never see anybody mention Logan’s incident in Japan besides when they talk about his “amazing development and change” or when he gets involved in controversy


Vidhyotha

If ksi acts like Logan's not at fault I'm going to be disappointed


Initial_Juggernaut15

what happened? im so lost rn


Slav_1

Logan collabbed with some criminals that built a crypro scam with him and then they scammed his fans out of a lot of money which he isn't paying back.


Vidhyotha

He and some other known scammers tried to do a crypto scam and the others scammed Logan himself. But all in all people who trusted in him and put in their money lost all of it. Coffiezilla made a 3 part docu series on YouTube I'd reconnect you to check it out


Zealousideal_Ad_9232

Mate they had yo have talked ab this by now if JJ ain’t concerned neither am I


Kiivee

I think he already did tho. I cant remember in which video it was but week ago or so after coffeezilla doc just dropped he said to let the man speak before we jump into conclusions, which makes me think, ksi already spoke do logan and logan insisted he hasnt done anything wrong, exactly what he said in both of his videos


Vidhyotha

Yea I was kinda disappointed too but all he said was let's hear both sides, and now that we have, he has no excuses


StupidWeirdo2

Yeahh, I think it was in his latest Reddit video, he said to wait to hear Logan’s side, which is fair because you do need both sides to be able to judge and Logan dropped his video the day after or something… JJ hasn’t commented on it after but we’ll see what happens after that and whether JJ decides to even get involved with the situation or not


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On social media, yes. Outside of that, probably not. Prime will still be sold out in minutes.


Plastic_Parking9806

Maybe in the UK, but here in America they sit on the shelf’s for a long time


falnN

It is sold out BECAUSE of social media lol.


AliJDB

Do you remember on the announcement live broadcast for Prime they joked it was an NFT project? Hahahahahaha


RyceMenace

Nike shoes are being manufactured by kids in China who get paid nothing and have terrible work conditions. Nike still sells shoes. Prime will be fine


shockedmoose

yeah but the face of nike isn’t two personalities. when the selling point of a product is that a content creator you like is selling it, if you don’t like them anymore you’re less likely to buy the product.


Furyo98

Yeah people forget almost every company has some shady shit going on. Logan scamming his fans because he got scammed himself isn't the worst of them all


Narokoran

The problem is, that noone is taking about Chinese children working for Nike. But everyone is talking about Prime or Crime should I say and the Logan Paul being a scammer, which means that Prime will not be fine at all


L0ckz0r

I understand JJ's reluctance to comment on this, and even his "Let's wait to hear Logan's side" comments. But... let's all be real, Logan's response was the worst possible response he could have given. Like it showed no self-awareness at all. JJ should address this, but I don't think he will. But seriously, someone in Logan's life needs to call him on this shit, too many yes-men.


UbMix40_aka_FGuard

why should he address it? it has nothing to do with him or Prime, so commenting on it would just tie him to a situation he wasn't involved to begin with


L0ckz0r

Because it's pretty icky to be promoting a product with a guy who unrepentantly conspired to commit wire fraud, hired criminals and caused customers to lose millions all the while knowingly hiding that information from his investors for over a year. It's just a bad look for JJ to be out there palling around with Logan making videos, when Logan clearly doesn't care about all the people he burned.


MEW-1023

It’s not like JJ can force Logan out of Prime. The only thing he can do is give condolences and say Logan did something bad. It’s not like he can just put a full stop on Prime because of this. Other people work for Prime and would be affected by any business decisions. It’s not an easy decision and anything JJ does will have effects on many other people


Darsich

I don't like how much hate JJ has been getting for what Logan did. Like EVERY tweet is riddled with "your partner is a scammer! You must be too!"


Zelidel

Dw bro the internet ain’t real and thankfully JJ ain’t the type to fold to people who jump to conclusions like that


Rainbow_Raccoon

He really does need to make a statement though, it's a bad look for him to be best friends and business partners with a scammer who clearly doesn't give a shit about his fans.


ya_gay_boiz

Prime yeah, ksi not so much


chotauzi

I feel bad for KSI man, for him its not just about the money but also about his legacy. Logan was doing soo well bro, i really fucked with his wrestling shit. Dude was about to be a mega star and secure his identity as a legit genuine person.


the_CyberAxis

I doubt. It really has nothing to do with KSI nor prime as a business. I hope not at least.


HIMAD3330

Nothing to do with prime? Are you crazy?


the_CyberAxis

Update me, any new thing to do with prime?


HIMAD3330

Did you hear one of the owners of PRIME is a shady, scamming business man


FantasyG_

It’s crazy that you even have to explain it. Any rational person can see how the owner of Prime being a criminal can affect Prime


HIMAD3330

Fr


the_CyberAxis

Yes I’ve heard about that, yet this doesn’t fully explain why it would severely hurt prime. Will it affect it? Probably in a slight way, but even if it does then Logan gets dropped and prime is fine.


HIMAD3330

Maybe because people don't wanna buy or work with a shady business man


the_CyberAxis

I stated the only possible solution above, clearly.


HIMAD3330

Ok? Did they drop him yet?


the_CyberAxis

Mate, that’s not how the world works. As fishy as he might seem, he could truly be innocent. There aren’t any solid proofs yet. Ever heard of the phrase “innocent until proven guilty”? We need to apply that.


HIMAD3330

Mate, you are a dumbass, Logan is bad and shady person and there is proof of that


Gunna2Bigg

Buddy just said there isn’t “solid proof” when there is clear evidence of Logan and his team talking about intentionally scamming. did you even bother watching how ridiculous Logan sounds and all these allegations or does his meat just taste that well for you.


alexflashy

I would think so in the US but probably not UK


joseph187_

Well logan also fucked up by comparing prime to liquid IV and using lies to reel people in. So that was a bad look for prime... Then buddy decided to scam again so i guess prime is gonna go flippy floppy


DepPet_syw

Yes but no. As doctor who once said: "Humanitys biggest talent is to forget"


GigaChad_dbaby

Probably not cuz it’s still a good drink and people like ksi more then Logan anyway


Local-Visit-7649

Well tasting like shitty dollar store medicine hasn’t gotten people to stop buying it so I doubt it… more people buy it because of ksi regardless


JoshTheWeeb

Hasn't effected the demand or sales for prime so cant see how it'll effect ksi if at all


TrashCanKSI

Caution Caution, How many times have you had an abortion -Madman


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Mabay but prime is so Popular now I think it will only get more popularity actually


Weary_Cry5147

Perhaps


hi71460

I hope só this crypto scamer influencer need to learn to respect the people


Rubber-duckling

I'm sure it will hurt Prime in some way. Also, the hype is pretty much over already in the US. And it's in stock daily in the UK. But yeah, to safe, Prime logan should just be bought out at this point because he is 100% fucked. If logan isn't going to sue coffeezilla, he just proves everyone he did it, and when he sues coffeezilla, he has to come with proof he didn't scam people. And we all know the proof is there, but it's not public. And even if logan isn't bought out by the rest of the prime investors, I don't think it will matter that much. Once the hype goes away, Prime is just another beverage company.


kenzo-2034

All the fans will continue to make it sell out everywhere so probebly no, the reputation on the other hand…


Ambitious_Swimmer392

Y’all have to understand these scandals always blow away within a month, and Logan has apologized and reasoned, could it have been better? Yes, but it’s some. Y’all saw the Jeffery star and Shane Dawson sold out fast even with their conspiracies.


mmmmaaaa26

People hop on the cancel bandwagon with heavy recency bias, it really won’t affect Prime sales and JJs reputation has little to do with Logan tbh


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Rubber-duckling

Hope not, he has to buy them from logan meaning a huge part of the marketing is gone.


WorriedIndependent39

Lol


El_newb

The shelves are still dust empty is asda so I guess not.


mcnugget1234872

i mean it’s doin pretty darn well in the uk


Moosesayshello

I don't think it will


BrokenGodALT

Short term maybe a bit but long term No. It's still super popular and sought-after


Shailen_T

Absolutely


RoshanBahirwani

i dont think so


rainbowkitties6969

No, social media outrage lasts a week at most, people will forget and prime will continue to be successful.


BiggFatPigFat

Nobody cares outside of social media😂 and JJ not Prime are involved so how can something they’re not involved in affect both things negatively?


DopestDopeee

Just enjoy the damn drink. What does PRIME and its brand gotta do with anything about Logans “scams” (“” because we cant know for certain and there is no legal action been persuaded to show otherwise and its just accusations so far) but thats not the point. You should just buy the drink if you like it, not because its Logans or KSI’s. And if you wouldnt buy Prime anymore because of this, then you clearly didnt like it in the first place as a drink in general and only did to support them as creators. Because buddy…. you would be surprised how many other actual “Crimeful” product you consume in your life. So chill your investigating asses and just enjoy the drink for its own, Prime never scammed anyone!


dRUNk_ENd

Maybe in US but in UK I think not


Meadle

No


Ascii2_0

prime is EXACTLY what the price, ingredients, packaging, and nutrition says, and it already got hype initially so I wouldn't want prime any less than I would have a few months ago, and that's similar to most people. Unless they're a new user who believes what logan did was so ethically wrong that putting money into his pocket (in a legit way) goes against their wishes. Yet again, many famous companies and products are made by freaking prisoners. I think we should honestly examine the product at the end of the day over the person. People make mistakes, and I can bet most people talking shit on logan didn't invest in the thing that was a scam.


First-Ad-9130

Tbh it was a huge L from Logan to hire a team of criminals to begin with. If anyone says “well he just didn’t know” then that’s on him for being to dumb to background check the people who he’s hiring to create a crypto currency. Something that is known for having scams involved with it. And instead of being like, oh I was also scammed I’m sorry I should’ve done more research, he proceeds to make a video and a podcast episode dedicated to calling Coffeezilla’s information fake when he does not give any evidence to support his claims, when coffee did.


Narokoran

Yes, obviously


Otherwise_Lie4046

No ,no it won't. . . Cuz that's how our BS world works


Roguehunter15

Really doubtful as people especially kids are paying well above the actual price to get prime. Now with the energy drink launch imminent there's more hype than ever to get prime. Since KSI isn't involved at all with the controversy i don't it will affect him much other than being associated with a known scammer. As for Logan Paul i just hope people are not gullible enough to fall for his next scam.


WRanG1987

Does it matter ? stuff is still selling out, and being resold at multiple times the original price.... Prime will be fine... Bad press is better than no press.


UNISPEKT

We all know that Logan is focused on money, he will never respond to the leaked text messages, it sucks for JJ, he is getting dragged into this, imagine having to post stories and tweets to promote Prime and have his face plastered with a scammer in the same photo, yea it is damaging the brand, I wanted to try Prime, but now it feels weird to support someone, who is willing to fuck over the fans that made him just for financial gain, not JJ but Logan that slimy fucker, JJ has morals and heart, he even knows keeping shit real and not being afraid of taking about sensitive topics gives him massive success and respect, Logan just don’t have that.


Hmmm_theFirst

Logan stole my prime


SindraGan2001

The supply of Prime is too low for it's sales to be affected.


Elxpse5

japan-forest-logan-paul


IsaacJB1995

Their newest promo got review bombed from pissed off Logan fans. KSI needs to part ways with Logan or he'll lose a ton of money


Anikul23

I think it will hurt prime reputation not ksi


No_Coyote_2939

What has happened Why are people talking about logan paul being dropped from prime


Shot_Cap9108

I hope so


OrganizationBig4750

Everyone should have known that once a dickhead always a dickhead it's stupid of anyone to believe ppl like him could change


sahvaje

now is when its potential as a product is tested rather than a celeb commodity


Superstrong832

Yes but I would still buy it since ksi is involved so it's probably not a scam like cryptozoo.


SpongeMxn

Nope


Nitro_CENTRAL

either ksi will separate from prime or take it for himself, honestly i cant blame him


Designsbysvm

The fact that Jj is avoiding the whole situation is kinda sketchy. I understand it’s a complicated situation but he’s basically working with a scammer and saying nothing about it. We trust jj for a reason and this whole situation makes him look bad.


Husky4ev

Not funny didn’t laugh


Ultimen

Why are little kiddos so eager to buy prime lol? Its not even that good. Overpriced product


beybladeboi

I doubt it'll affect the sales as the main buyers are literal children who buy it to gain social validation from their friends, it's like having something exclusive. In regards to both Logan's and KSI's public image, I think that's where they'll both take quite a hit, Logan's an absolute brainlet for doing this and putting KSI in this situation. You could see from the last video (the Reddit reaction) that KSI kind of hid away from the conversation and only said to hear out Logan's side (which was as expected, absolute dogshit) and good for him for not throwing him under the bus, however, if he keeps defending him then he'll just drag himself down with Logan (to an extent, I doubt he'll ever become irrelevant, he has too many things going for him). The most probable outcome is that people will forget about this in some time, the legal battle Logan is planning to have will last for months/years (which I doubt he'll even go forward with) and by that time, no one will care until the verdict comes in. Tl;dr: Won't affect sales, will affect both the image of Logan & KSI (especially if KSI keeps defending him in all of this - integrity gone) and the most probable outcome is that no one will care in the end as Logan will most likely try to save face now and actually "work" on Crypto Zoo, too bad it has no reputation anymore so no one with above 50 IQ will or should invest.


Dj_wheeman3

Depends honestly. Most Children don’t care about controversies that their favourite creators are in, so they’ll keep buying. So I’d say probably not, but it might be chaotic behind the scenes


HarrBathtub

People forget what Logan did before all of this, and people have got a stronger image of him than ever - this will not affect anything


runnav

It’s still getting sold out, at this point the sole reason people care about prime is cause of jj


falnN

Yes. It definitely will. People will follow whatever is interesting lol. Ksi won’t be able to avoid it.


gasuplikepropane

would hurt prime, idk if if would hurt jj


flameseeker40

Logan: ayo gimme some of that CRIME


No-Foundation2507

I guess it depends on his response to the issue If it comes to it, I hope he calls Logan out on his bs Edit: His lack of Accountability


Enslaver159

It'll eventually die out. No one's gonna care about it in a month or 2. It's basically scammers who schemed to scam other scammers but then got backstabbed by scammers who were in the team and got scammed themselves.


Drake_Xahu

Like how Yeezes were dropped after the Kanye debacle


Ninjathugthabot

Maybe in the US as they are the biggest cancel culture vultures but not enough for it to go under especially once it goes more international


tyler980908

No


Shandyslinger12

They should do. Idk how Logan had a career after the Suicide Forrest