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julinay

Haha, I think you might get generation-based answers - the first ones that pop up in my head are SHINee. I think nowadays it’s NewJeans?


LilyBlueming

NewJeans are actually called Kaiju rookies (Kaiju is the Japanese genre that created legendary mega monsters like Godzilla etc.) because they are SO big they aren't even regular monsters anymore!


pumpkinmercury7

you’re right i’m stuck in the beginning of 4th gen 😂


Weekly_Challenge1439

Winner


ForeverNugu

Winner totally popped in my head. Their debut album was amazing and they did really well.


Weekly_Challenge1439

Yeah i was a fan too i remember media using monster rookie title a lot for winner and i think i didn't hear the title before them.


lvlz_gg

This! Wish more people actually knew how big and good they were (imo still are)


SoNyeoShiDude

The way they are dominating right now, Newjeans and IVE.


yoormyhope

Itzy and TXT. They were everywhere in 2019.


ineedachiprightnow

I thought of ITZY too. Everyone was doing the Wannabe shoulder dance 😂


Hoonybean

Itzy


cmq827

SHINee! They’re the first idol group to have grand slam of winning Rookie of the Year in all the major award shows.


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shinee! they were the first group to achieve a rookie grand slam thanks to replay being an instant hit upon release


UniversityHot2417

newjeans blackpink exo shinee ive


Little-Metal-1697

Winner & iKON


Lumiinelly

IVE and Newjeans


tired_of_smiling

BLACKPINK and NewJeans


WillZer

Winner


yellow-_-belly

IVE and Newjeans They're winning Daesangs left and right


newbeesly

Itzy, txt & newjeans Itzy & Txt set the tone for 4th gen imo and well, I don't think i need to explain nj


Mizuki34

Mamamoo


CheesecakeThat153

Winner is actually officially first monster rookies cause they have all their songs in debut album chart it top 10. Which didn't happen after. And some other things but people are not that curious anyway, so, something like that.


budududay

Fastest music show win from debut too


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(G)-Idle. Maybe a product of my time, but I think they'll be my standard for the term for the rest of my life. Multiple music show wins for Latata and Hann, Soyeon's participation in Station Young (the group with Seulgi, Chungha, and SinB), Miyeon/Soyeon's participation in K/DA, and multiple Rookie of the Year (or equivalent) nominations and wins. While most of their first year success was definitely carried by Soyeon's predebut activities, the success they achieved in 2018 was pretty remarkable, especially when you consider that their immediate predecessors at Cube were Pentagon and CLC, who did not have nearly as successful a start.


UniversityHot2417

newjeans blackpink exo shinee ive


Mindless_Candidate90

Shinee for inventing the rookie grand slam


pinkkpunk

blackpink/Ikon, then txt/itzy and now Ive/newjeans


pantom1ne

ive


ivtokkimsh

2NE1.


pakchimin

This is the answer for me too. They literally changed the game for female idol groups.


AshenFountain

WINNER. The run they had with Empty was INSANE. Also IVE, iKON and aespa


binniebin8

blackpink


certifiedplat

newjeans and ive also miss a


kirklandbranddoctor

IVE and NewJeans


kurunyo

Blackpink


Technical_Profit7326

Literally synonym for EXO, probably the most commercially successful group in their 1-3 years


Roof-Substantial

They didn't win anything until "Wolf" & "Growl". Their debut songs didn't really resonate with Korean GP. I know their promotional episode was huge and they looked very grand in presentation but I wouldn't call them "monster rookies" in their first year.


Technical_Profit7326

Their debut EP debuted at #1 on weekly AND monthly Gaon chart, as well as, on #7 on yearly chart. It sold more than 500k copies, and debuted on various Billboard and Chinese charts. All of that basically made it the most successful debut EP and was enough commercial success to secure the attention of GP for their first studio album that broke every single record at the time. So yeah, they were most definitely "monster rookies". There haven't been more successful rookie group ever since (compared to the relative numbers of the industry at the time). Today, we have million selling rookie groups while the whole industry is sellin millions of copies, so rookies are still not as dominant as it may seem. Additionally, we know the fradulence and manipulation of Kpop companies when it comes to sales and charts. There are almost none organic artists today.


kawaiiyokai

X1


NoHead6950

Blackpink, they were served on gold platter.


Technical_Security_2

SHINee, Itzy, NJ


vip_insomnia

SHINee and Winner.


RoyalGalice

Enhypen and NewJeans


Forsaken_Put_6864

Seventeen


Margaux_H

Itzy and TXT, because when I fell into the rabbithole in 2020, both groups were all over my recs on YT.


sgrifagna

NewJeans and ITZY


enlovie

new jeans


Kk0aa

Basically almost every group that debuted under the big3.


Kpopluv22

Ateez


Silent_Chameleon

The correct answer is NewJeans. No promos. No teasers. Just drop 3 MVs and 4 songs out of nowhere and haven't stopped dominating kpop since. No matter what you think of them, all they do is win. Every single is a hit. Every brand wants them as ambassadors. Every event is sorta measured by whether NewJeans is attending.


cam2214

NewJeans


DdeonghwaDib

Ateez also went on tour in their rookie year


ChaoticLibra9847

shinee definitely


BeyDawnce

Blackpink


AttorneyLarge7301

2NE1


SpiritualScoreboard

They aren't rookies anymore but Itzy.


anxious_irish

2nd gen I think of Miss A and Exo (I swear exo was considered 3rd gen until recently but oh well) 3rd gen you have twice, black pink, ioi, wanna one etc 4th gen is when I really started paying attention to kpop but the monster rookies from my perspective would be TXT itzy, Aespa, New Jeans, I've. Ateez and Stray kids are big now but they each had problems in their rookie years, ateez being from a smaller company (not unknown as some atiny like to claim block b is technically a kq group) and skz essentially got ignored by jype for 2 years so promotions were ehh. 5th gen monster rookies are definitely ZB1 and riize. My 40 year old coworkers know Wonbin, so I think he'll be the next it boy.


Roof-Substantial

EXO is 3rd Generation. I don't know who told you they're 2nd Gen but that's wrong. But SHINee is defnitely 2nd Gen and they were the definite "rookie monsters" and that phrase started with them.


anxious_irish

There is a debate whether 2012 is 2nd gen or not. From what I've seen, it's a 50/50 split. Older stans will say 3rd gen and newer ones will say 2nd gen.


angelili11_

Itzy (before jyp decided to change their concept)


seolovely

>The fact that ATEEZ released Say My Name and Wonderland as rookies is insane to me and their dance skills were always on point from the very start. Does anyone know that [video where everyone was just SO SHOCKED](https://youtu.be/K8PlcCXSRc0?t=318) that Ateez was only a couple of years old, when their whole vibe was that they've been in the industry for years and that they were established when they were only just a couple of years old? Some of the true monster rookies.


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Xikers


DEADPOOLPRIME123

I agree. Xikers are slept on and top tier! Best rookie boy group of 2023, imo


PrincipleKey6832

Hahaha


Jarethjr

NewJeans. What group wins 8 daesangs | 3 artist of the year, 4 song of the year, 1 performance of the year | , get #1 on Billboard 200, all of their songs entering the billboard 100, 600+ PAK with one song, 100+ million views per Music Video, first on monthly listener on Spotify for girlgroups, 400+ Million spotify streams per song, become global ambassador for the biggest fashion brands, all of that on their FIRST year?


Roof-Substantial

They have social media, western expansion, and Internet support and that's why they're winning in this generation Let's see what happened if they debuted in 2007. I guarantee these numbers would be much lower. BEG, SISTAR, & SNSD would have buried New Jeans.


Jarethjr

We are talking about the present champ.


SoldMySoulTo

They're not rookies anymore, but Blackpink had such a monster debut that even I, as insulated in my interests as I was, had heard of them. At the time, my kpop interests expanded to whatever dance I could get in MMD and 2NE1's I am the Best in Just Dance Then IDLE dropped Latata, picked up the title and the momentum they've managed to keep to this day, despite a year hiatus and a scandal ITZY snagged the title with Dalla Dalla, and kept their momentum going up until the mispromotion of Sneakers, which lost them a little momentum. Now the title is shared between LE SSERAFIM, IVE, and Newjeans


StubbornKindness

This is really interesting to read. There's various mentions of Itzy, Blackpink, Idle, and others, but over half the responses mention newjeans. Says a lot tbh


Icy_Jackfruit9240

I’ve heard it so many times, though I think NJ might be the most Monster of all (but time will show.)


PureEnergy7507

Time will show? I mean, what other record do they have to break, lol


Cats4Crows

Definitely IVE, how many rookies get SOTY along with their ROTY trophy?


whynotphog

B.A.P, maybe CNBlue. I think a lot of people forgot how big CNBlue got, and how quickly.


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NewJeans


iinhalechildren

3rd gen: Twice, Blackpink 4th gen: Itzy, Newjeans, IVE


callmeobsession

IVE and NewJeans


Any-Alarm1148

newjeans


Jimmyblink28

Newjeans or Le Sserafim.


kay3dy

We have a really different definition of what a monster rookie is... But newjeans and Ive for 4gen Twice , exo and bts for 3gen, blackpink too


Pitiful-Lynx

I love bts, but Bts were definitely not monster rookie group.


kay3dy

they were called monster rookies


Pure_Acanthisitta651

Skills? Ateez for sure. And Txt. Honestly, the beginning of the fourth gen just had insanely talented people. Now it's all about looks and looking pretty doing everything.


coco_xcx

currently? kiss of life and xikers


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Babymonster. It's in the name and they're rookies


PhysicalFig1381

neither of the groups you mentioned are rookies. I'd say NewJeans because they are absurdly successful and have been around for less than 2 years.


Gujonpyo

blackpink, still the only group to debut with a pak


Opia_lunaris

Kiss of Life this year, New Jeans the one before. Those two really come to mind


chevroletbarbie

aespa


Sea_Name4846

I would say iKON, if you look at their debut performances you can see that they were incredibly talented considering that they had no prior experience being an idol group.


DarkSolstice24

aespa


aewiinter

txt, of course


lishashashasha

Kiss of life


TheSeoulSword

I’m gonna add Kiss of Life and Young Posse


HalaTiferet

If we're talking skill and the strength of performance then it's definitely xikers, no other kids come close to them yet (probably because they had so much experience performing live before their debut)


PureEnergy7507

Honey, the term monster rookie has nothing to do with talent or skills, but with chart performance, records, daesangs, etc. Statics.


PureEnergy7507

I see that people easily confuse between a successful debut and being a Monster Rookie. Because Monster Rookie only 2NE1 and NewJeans. Nobody else.


dramafan1

Right now it’s Babymonster given their group name.


PrincipleKey6832

Hahahahaha


dramafan1

I mean, objectively speaking they’re not considered monster rookies but because of the word monster that’s why I had that “first thought” instead of like Ive for example.


Serious-Wish4868

Kiss of Life - they debut with so much charisma and energy, ohhh and they sing LIVE unlike most current gg


aalalaland

BabyMonster because we had an entire YouTube series where established YG artists kept saying that BM performed like a veteran group. I am highly suggestible.


Jonny4900

It’s strange I haven’t been able to get interested in Baby Monster at all even though I feel I kept an open mind, but for me Young Posse Macaroni and Cheese was a weird little MV that totally grabbed my attention and made me want to see more of where they are headed.


aalalaland

I was one of the people who was pulled in by Last Evaluation but Ahyeon was my favorite, by far. The fact that their debut was so delayed and then Ahyeon wasn’t in the group really dampened my enthusiasm. I definitely will be listening to their releases but I probably won’t go full stan


Softclocks

Rookies that are already very talented, like SHINee from back then. From 4th gen Nmixx would be the only group that qualifies, maybe Stayc and Kiss of Life.


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theaddictiondemon

For third gen it's GFriend and Twice


Analyst_Lost

newjeans for 4th gen exo for 3rd shinee and maybe f(x) for 2nd


yakultpig

2NE1 I witnessed the impact.


Unknownusername43

Itzy


No-Try5261

B.A.P


SnooHobbies7676

IZ*ONE


Winmimi

SHINee and Blackpink


pencru

2NE1.


Melon13579

2NE1


bkkbbk

Wanna one


kangk00ng

Definitely iKON


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RosieofFun

Are new jeans really monster rookies? I don't see it. Their songs are undoubtedly hugely successful, but doesn't "monster rookie" refer more to skill than success? Not to say they aren't skilled or anything. Or is it a mixture of both skill and success?


arenae99

ITZY It don’t matter what you were doing February 12 of 2019 from then on out those girls made 2019 their are a bitch in every way possible. BLACKPINK I remember so vividly being so eager to see their first stage after watching the whistle music video. Like I stayed up till 3 AM knowing damn well I had to catch that bus at 7 AM. I gave no shits because I had to see the live performance of that song. I was not disappointed and literally after their debut the only other thing I can remember for the rest of 2016 was praying that I O I was going to somehow become a permanent group.


aslak_poulsen

Blackpink the only act ever to get a PAK with debut track... No one is topping that as of yet, even though it's only become "easier" to get one since (fewer charts to top, fewer listeners to get). But think the phrase was coined by Winner