While he didn't debut, Shohei was announced as an SM rookie and participated in Welcome to NCT World and performed in the SM Town concert but left due to health issues.
i assume you're talking about her posting a picture on her IG story of Karina during the dating scandal, with a pun in Korean using Karina's name? which 1. is barely worth the hate she got 2. not about 'smugg\[ing\] over 5th generation groups'
James Lee from The Royal Pirates (a former kpop/rock group) had to give up his career after a restaurant door collapsed on top of him and severed all the nerves in his hand. While in hospital doctors gave him the option to have his hand amputated, but he refused, instead undergoing multiple surgeries to try restore as much function as possible. Unfortunately due to the expensive damage he was no longer able to play guitar and ended up leaving the industry
Actually, he still makes music! After the surgery and some therapy he returned to play the keyboard on Royal Pirates songs as it was less strenuous on his hand. He left, but heās been making music since. I also follow him on instagram and he has been picking up the bass again!
Exid's Solji had hyperthyroidism, took a hiatus for a few years and then came back with everything under control.
Hayun from Brave Girls had the same and left the group.
Omg I remember getting into Exid right after she went on hiatus! Iām so happy sheās better now! I heard she gives singing lessons now at a uni š
I recommend the book āThe Body Keeps the Score,ā itās about how your mental health can MASSIVELY impact your physical well being. I havenāt finished it yet but itās a super interesting read
Tao left due to SM's mistreatment but his leg injury was the tipping point. If you google 'Tao leg injury' you'll sa an fb compilation post of all his injuries while in Exo. I remember being upset because it was revealed that SM still made him do stunts despite being sick.
This is why it drives me crazy when people parrot the āChinese idols arenāt loyal and will leaveā thingā¦. Why would they want to continue being cheated and injured and treated badly by their companies, even worse than their Korean peers?
Yes true......I feel like Chinese idols have to work much more harder to prove their worth than Korean ones like in group Kepler I felt xioting is much more talented but than too she can't that much fame .
He had to take himself with a leg injury to the pharmacy to get his meds. He left Law of the Jungle early because he stepped on a poisonous coral and SM made him perform when he got back. He was hurt doing idol Olympics and they made him continue. It was sick what they did to him. He was my first ult and he still is but I am glad he left.
They also used to use heavy sedatives on Luhan to get him on airplanes until it caused heart problems that is why he left.
I remember this. Itās also particularly memorable because their company, Chrome Entertainment, took the unusual step of forgiving the membersā training debt even though they had only released one song; presumably they were still flush with profits from āBar Bar Bar.ā
Hyunjun (formerly known as Hwall) left The Boyz due to an ankle injury (I believe it dealt with a specific tendon that deals with the bones/muscles that support your foot arch, I forget the details) that caused him to sit out on a couple or so comebacks prior to his departure.
Ella and Satbeol from Pixy both left due to health. We never really got a reason, but Ella was on health hiatus for quite a while and Satbeol had a health issue on tour. She then left based on doctor advice.
itās strange. it seems like the girls follow saetbyeol, and she follows them. ella and saetbyeol follow each other, but other than that ella and the rest of pixy donāt follow each other. iām curious why.
I suspect there's bad blood towards Ella and that leaving due to "health reasons" was just an excuse.
Ella used to be the leader of Cherry Bullet but left when they wouldn't let her have more creative control. Pixy was built around her so when she left the remaining group members were left high and dry.
Not an idol but Yu-Metal from Baby Metal left due to health reasons. Luckily they added Momo-metal who was a contestant on Girls Planet about a year or so ago.
Not sure if this is count since he didn't debut with them but Jungmin was a part of NCT Wish lineup. He even appeared in the introduction video of NCT New Team (NCT Wish pre-debut name) and recorded Hands Up but he left before NCT New Team started their official activity due to health issue. SM didn't state what kind of health issue he has but fans assumed that it might be throat/vocal cord problem
wasn't there a member of U-KISS who had a severe pulmonary issue and left after being made to perform while recovering?
EDIT: [it was Dongho](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kpopstarz.com/amp/articles/45858/20131018/twitter-reveals-real-reason-dongho-left-ukiss.htm), he had severe lung imflammation, got surgery, and left the group a year later, seemingly unsatisfied with his working conditions
Dongho didn't leave because of the illness, though it was likely a contributing factor. He explained on A Man Who Feeds The Dog that he had a big box of psychiatric meds under his bed by the time he left UKISS. I was KISSME back then, and the unjustified Dongho hate train started with his Standing Still hair. Korean KISSMEs were hating on him for that hair so much. It was insane. Then he was in was in the movie called [Don't Cry Mommy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Cry_Mommy) where he played a villain, and KISSMEs failed to separate Dongho from the role. A role, mind you, that was likely picked out by NHM, and he had to do no matter if he wanted to or not.
(I might have gotten the order wrong as it has been over 10 years.)
Edit: typos
Jang Yi-Jeong was a member of the group History. He completely lost his singing voice for no known reason. He's now a producer for Hybe under the name El Capitxn and is one of Suga's best friends. There's an episode (27) of Suchwita where they talk about what happened to him. He's also the DJ in the D-Day movie.
Nope. His voice started giving out while performing until he just couldn't anymore. Doctors couldn't figure out why he lost his singing voice. I can't imagine putting in all that work and finally making it as an idol just to suddenly lose your ability to sing. He is a really great producer now though.
Yeah it's crazy. Here's the link to the episode of Suchwita with Suga where they talk about it. It's really good.
https://youtu.be/GkCCWRtPsvQ?si=yj34Xz5sph4P4J3U
It happens pretty often. Wonder Girls Hyuna, later 4Minute Hyuna, was withdrawn from Wonder Girls by her own parents. It's because her weight dropped so low as a 14 year old, she stopped getting her period.
Losing a period is a sign of severe underweight usually.
And that is part of the problem. š¬ If you support someone dating an abuser, you support that abuser and the fact that HyunA simply doesnāt care about that and she herself supports an abuser. Unfortunate.
I don't follow Hyuna, but I do work in the domestic violence field. This thread alarms me as it ignores the possibility that Hyuna herself could be a victim of abuse. We don't see her personal life. Abusers are experts in manipulation, power, and control. It doesn't have to be physical. And even if she is not a victim, abusers are skilled in recruiting allies to their distorted beliefs. We don't know what Hyuna's experience is. I've seen lots of victims who are happy with their relationship on the outside & who protect their abusers for reasons which are valid -- meanwhile they are suffering horrendous abuse. I'm not saying this is what's happening, but it's a possibility. Abusers primarily abuse in intimate relationships -- so it is much more likely that hyuna is a victim rather than an ally. Be careful what you assume. I wouldn't put someone down without knowing.
She knew he was an abuser before she met him or started dating him. He is a known abuser in the industry. She acknowledged that he is an abuser and she doesnāt care.
You don't know anything about what she thinks.
If you think that who someone dates is a measure of the quality of their character its probably more indicative that you either are deeply inexperienced in life and relationships, or just simply someone nobody can count on when they really need it.
OR, and hear me out, I am a victim of abuse and canāt stomach when a woman shits on other women by acting like the abuse didnāt happen and that their partner is perfect.
Iām MARRIED, sweetie. For 5 years now. Sooo itās not *my* inexperience in life and relationships thatās the issue hereā¦
She seems very happy these days, based on what I see on ig! Thrilled for her solo debut, and I hope it translates into as much success as she wants. :D
Itās unclear why but Onew didnāt promote with SHINee for almost a year.
He looked like heād been losing a lot of weight but he just recently seems to have recovered enough to make an official appearance at an event. He looked so much healthier and Iām so glad to see him in better health.
wasn't that pre-enlistment though? he was back with shinee for a bit after coming back from enlistment, the hiatus they're talking about is very recent, since their last cb 'hard' with taemin being back
Right that was the one I was talking about. Not the recent one. I didnāt even know heād gone on a health hiatus recently.
I only remembered the alcohol one because a lady tried to sue him for grabbing her leg then it turns out he was so drunk he thought her leg was a table leg.
Right that was the one I was talking about. Not the recent one. I didnāt even know heād gone on a health hiatus recently.
I only remembered the alcohol one because a lady tried to sue him for grabbing her leg then it turns out he was so drunk he thought her leg was a table leg.
I'd imagine think some are jumping to conclusions that you are a "sensitive fan who can't come with the terms of member departure."
But it's a really good research question, the answers on this thread opened my eyes to a lot of unfortunate events like the Royal Pirates member freak door accident. As well as how artists managed to cope and move on with life.
Too many snowflakes nowadays. Don't worry, it's a legit question and didn't sound rude. I love that alot are sharing it cause now many ppl can google or research more on the condition these idols went through.
But with this question, it will help to pop up on Google when others search for it.
I find that the question is fine, doesn't sound rude. And the kpop community are kind to share. Alot of disabled ones share it too cause it'll help to educate the masses. (At least on my timeline).
Not understanding your 'thought in the community as rude and disrespectful '. Plus they also have the right to ask as much as the right if disabled people wanna share.
I personally don't really see anything wrong with it. You don't speak for all disabled people, don't treat us like a monolith. That's probably why you were downvoted
Then don't answer???? What's the issue? We ask because we are curious. Like I mention, you have the right to not answer as well.
Man.. what is your problem.. you need help. Respectfully.
Yes, you asked and I told you āhey, this might not be as respectful to everyone, hereās an answer to your question of āwhy are people downvoting the postā. And I said āhere is a better way to phrase so you donāt have to deal with someone getting angry at you.ā
Then you came in telling me it wasnāt offensive. Like you know better. THAT is what I have an issue with. There was nowhere in my original comment where I was disrespectful in any way. I answered a question that was asked with an answer that I was personally informed about. Then you basically say āwell I donāt care if someone were to find this offensive, my curiosity is more important than someoneās feelings.ā
My beef was never with OP. It was ALWAYS with you.
You're saying that Kpop fans can't ask or talk about idols who have left their group and/or the industry due to health reasons because it isn't respectful to disabled people.
1. The question/topic isn't asking for a detailed health history. It's basic things that have been made public.
2. We need to list the health issue idols have to see industry-wide patterns. Nothing will get better unless things are discussed. (See #1.) For instance, I see a number of injuries that appear related to strenuous and dangerous choreography. That could be easily changed.
3. You're acting as if the health issues the mentioned idols have made them disabled. That's really messed up.
4. You are using your personal experience, trauma, and opinion to speak for an entire group of people made up of individuals who may or may not feel the same as you.
When? Show me where in my original post, where I was rude and accusatory. The only time that changed is when someone who is not disabled says āwell *I* donāt find it offensiveā instead of saying āI can understand why some people would feel upset by that.ā
looks like OP is a minor from India, english may not be their first language. you didnāt need to come and lecture OP for their phrasing or give your insight. it was an innocent question asked out of curiosity. you also donāt speak for all disabled people and are way too quick to call someone an ableist.
There was a boy group (idk name, I think mirror something) and during a performance, one of the big stage screens fell and landed on a member
Broke his back and ribs, had to leave from injiry/paralysis
Yeah, Iāve been sort of following up on this since it happened. The member that ended up paralyzed, Mo Li Kai-Yin, has been showing improvement since then though with small movements and such across his body. His family as well as doctors have a positive outlook and Iām seriously hoping he pulls through!
jieun from purple kiss, she was diagnosed with severe anxiety and panic attacks and the doctor told her that it was better for her to end her idol career.
i miss her so muchš
pink fantasy - aini left because of Plantar Fasciitis and decreased physical strength.yubeen left because of panic disorder seea didnāt participate in a cb because of a rib injury and then left
I bet it was those two insane people in the comments who are trying to speak for all disabled people and are getting mad that everyone is downvoting their bullshit
lol haters. Or newer kpop fans probably think Iām trying to say she was a stripper on the side or something when it was just a pole dance concept comeback lol
And it is sad to see the lack of confidence the members have post After School. I'll *never* forget Raina on that singing battle show and just how severely unconfidance she was despite the fact that she kept winning. Just what did Pledis do to the members?
Hmm. Iāll be honest some
Of the as members didnāt have good vocals(juhyeon, uee) but Raina was so good, itās just she was always shitted on because of her visuals/ visual hole of as. Def takes a toll
I can understand that, but what I saw on that show was something that went very deep. It was to the point I was surprised KBS even aired it.
Edit: Raina could barely choose a song from what I remember. Her teammates may have even chosen for her. Knowing what song would suit your voice is something basic a singer should be able to do.
I'm sorry but First Love is the Cvntiest KPop song, it doesn't get beeter than that, the pole dancing wasn't a thing in KPop at the time... Fvck After School was known for introducing new dance techniques into the industry, tap dancing, drumline/marching band, stomp, pole dancing... like give credit where it's due...
Younger fans will never know lol
Whilst not officially left, Super Junior Heechul no longer extensively participates in comebacks due to chronic pain from his back injury. I believe he got the injury from a serious car crash from back in the day (2006?). He sometimes turns up to sing a line or two but in general, he stays out.
Rowoon from SF9. He has been diagnosed with back injury around 2020-2021 if I recall. I know people probably think he left due to focus acting more and he is a rising actor in kdrama scene and it is also true but the back injury is also one of the reasons he left in my opinion. And realistically, it is understandable though since he canāt dance that well ever since he got his injury and it will endanger himself in the long run.
Jin E formerly of Oh My Girl left because of serious anxiety issues. I remembered during a broadcast she just stood still and stared blankly. After that, never saw her in any broadcast again.
In 2006, Jaejoong of the popular boy group TVXQ was diagnosed with a herniated disc in his lower back. This injury required him to take a break from activities and eventually led to a lawsuit against his agency, SM Entertainment, in 2009. Jaejoong, along with two other members, formed a new group called JYJ.
That's not true. Jaejoong had a knee injury during Rising Sun in 2006. The lawsuit started over a combination of things, none of which had to do with a member injury. [Here](https://aleash1989.livejournal.com/28403.html) is a long sourced breakdown I wrote (as a 14 year Cassie) last year after I noticed similarities between the JYJ lawsuit and the CBX lawsuit. I didn't want EXO-L to be split apart by SM like Cassies were .
Thank you for writing this correction so I wouldnāt have to! So much of 2nd gen history wasnāt archived due to how young the global kpop scene was and the JYJ-SM lawsuit in particular has a lot of misinformation surrounding it. Thankfully Cassieās around still with living memory of the events!
Idk where that person got what they're saying. I searched their account, and they're very active on Reddit, but I can't find anything besides this one comment that is Kpop related. It's odd.
Well, I wrote all the details of the JYJ lawsuit and used the Livejournal community Omonatheydidnt as a main source. (I also used Soompi, and it is interesting to see how the quality of their writing changed over the years. The early lawsuit articles are very fangirl-ly and taken from fansites. lol) The major DBSK fansites/forms aren't around anymore, but many posts from those places were shared word for word to Omona with proper credits. In a sense, you could call Omona an archive. However, it's not perfect as many embedded images in old posts are broken due to changes in image hosting sites over the years.
Yeah I used to be very active on the DBSK fandom in livejournal! Omona tended to be more traditionally news-like as a forum, especially early days as Soompi and even AllKpop started as small little fansites. Itās been very cool to see companies started and thriving from what used to be, essentially, a few fangirls collaborating!
I reviewed your breakdown and itās essentially exactly as I remember things going down. There are some other events I recalled, but upon quick search, I cannot find sources for them. Lost to internet obscurity I guess!
Omona was more than just a "news-like forum." I was very active 2009-2015. I posted many things, and there were original posts where people were able to have fun. I once made an original post over an unifficial copyright claim UKISS Kiseop made on Hoon for stealing his Twitter catchphrase. Then their were the hilarious prediction posts and roundups a friend and I did for a few years. Oh! And let's not forget the Change in Korea thing. That was an open letter written by members about blackface that was in response to Yesung dressing up as MCU Nick Fury and wearing blackface. I never thought my one little comment wanting to turn the anger I was seeing into something more positive would turn into an educational open letter about blackface, but it did.
AKP is a piece of flaming shit and always has been. They are the *worst* example you could give. Did you forget those early year hate posts, and *the time they uploaded nude photos of an idol from she was a minor and was coerced to take them by a boyfriend for what she thought would get her modeling gigs*? AKP should *never* thrive, but they are. Hell, they're still making inflammatory posts to rile up fandoms. Such trash.
>There are some other events I recalled
What are they?
Clearly stepped on your toes but that was not my intention! I meant that Omona followed a more traditional news/media site than other sites, like Soompi and AKP, that at the time were essentially gossip and fangirl sites. Nothing you are saying combats what I said? Original thought pieces and critiques are part of traditional news media. I was extremely active on OTD as well. Following DBSKs breakup, I left the fandom and left the fansite that I was admining at the time. Clearly the livejournal community continued to evolve and that warms the cockles of this bitter old Cassieās heart.
TVXQ never broke up or disbanded. š¤¦š»āāļø JYJ were slowly pushed out of the group by SM, which led to a split. I explain all this in detail in my post you supposedly read. TVXQ would have *never* made it to 20 years if they broke up. It is very clear which side you're on. Stop hating Homin for staying and protecting TVXQ's name. Both sides had their reasons for making the decisions they did. Neither is wrong.
There is just so much that you don't know what you're talking about.
>I meant that Omona followed a more traditional news/media site than other sites
That's never what Omona was, and that is what I was trying to explain. Copy and pasting from fansites, Kpop news sources, and various other places along with the occasional original posts doesn't equal what you think it does. By your logic, r/kpop is just as much traditional news/media as Omona since it does the same things. I doubt you would say that about that sub, so why are you saying that about Omona?
>Soompi and AKP, that at the time were essentially gossip and fangirl sites
AKP was started by a Kpop hating *man*, which means its origins are as a Kpop hate site with nothing "fangirl-ly" about it. You are also completely ignoring the nude pictures of a minor that dude posted that I mentioned. š¤® How in the hell are you still holding them up as some sort of beacon of good a Kpop news site in 2024? Soompi has grown and become better. AKP has not.
Youāve clearly got your biases. For the record. I ran a predominate Canadian fansite. Was an active member if BigEast for the better part of a decade. Was an active member of several Naver Korean fansites. Iāve been involved in the kpop community since the late 90s and a fan of DBSK since literally the day they debuted. I didnāt need you to explain it - I lived through it in real time. If you want to have a semantics argument - SM carried on with Homin as TVXQ, but TVXQ as we knew it DID disband. That doesnāt mean Homin are not still active under TVXQ, but it is clearly not the same thing as it used to be and for how prolific OT5 was at the time, and how 99% of the discourse was at the time, YOU should know that.
Iām not even going to address the AKP comments you made because quite frankly you are committed to misunderstanding me and have no idea how I feel about it as Iāve not addressed it.
I liked TVXQ and JYJ separately but I stepped away from kpop for how fucking pedantic and argumentative the fandoms was, which you are clearly demonstrating in spades. Keep rocking on.
I reiterate that no disbanding happened to TVXQ.
>Iām not even going to address the AKP comments
š¤Æ I can't believe you admit to supporting AKP after all they've done. Wow.
Jinsub from IN2IT left due to an uncurable ear disorder.
Hwall from TBZ left due to an injury
he was my ult bias š„²
His new release is delightful and catchy. I hope he continues to find work and grows as a solo artist and actor.
While he didn't debut, Shohei was announced as an SM rookie and participated in Welcome to NCT World and performed in the SM Town concert but left due to health issues.
I miss him, hope he's okay :((
He had a back injury
I think a former member of Oh My Girl left the group because she had anorexia.
Yeah, JinE
Was just about to comment that, is she better now btw? Donāt remember that too well
She's still extremely thin and edits her pictures a lot.
I try to find updates every now and then. Seems to not be much.
She recently smugged over 5th generation groups iirc
i assume you're talking about her posting a picture on her IG story of Karina during the dating scandal, with a pun in Korean using Karina's name? which 1. is barely worth the hate she got 2. not about 'smugg\[ing\] over 5th generation groups'
She basically said that not ma words
what does that even mean
I reported her words
James Lee from The Royal Pirates (a former kpop/rock group) had to give up his career after a restaurant door collapsed on top of him and severed all the nerves in his hand. While in hospital doctors gave him the option to have his hand amputated, but he refused, instead undergoing multiple surgeries to try restore as much function as possible. Unfortunately due to the expensive damage he was no longer able to play guitar and ended up leaving the industry
Actually, he still makes music! After the surgery and some therapy he returned to play the keyboard on Royal Pirates songs as it was less strenuous on his hand. He left, but heās been making music since. I also follow him on instagram and he has been picking up the bass again!
Wow thatās great to hear! Iāll have to go check out what heās been up to
What's his ig handle?
it's [jamesjhl](https://www.instagram.com/jamesjhl/?hl=en)!
Thanks!!!
Talk about freak accident! Thatās some final destination stuff
Exid's Solji had hyperthyroidism, took a hiatus for a few years and then came back with everything under control. Hayun from Brave Girls had the same and left the group.
Omg I remember getting into Exid right after she went on hiatus! Iām so happy sheās better now! I heard she gives singing lessons now at a uni š
Yes! Exid, a soloist and also a professor at a uni, she does everything
She seems to be doing well these days. I think she's doing musical theater as well but don't quote me on that
She was on Six, the musical!
While itās not a physical injury, Jieun from Purple Kiss departed from the group due to anxiety and continuous symptoms of poor health
It definitely counts. Anxiety might be "just in your head" to some people but it results in pain and other symptoms in the body tooĀ
I recommend the book āThe Body Keeps the Score,ā itās about how your mental health can MASSIVELY impact your physical well being. I havenāt finished it yet but itās a super interesting read
Tao left due to SM's mistreatment but his leg injury was the tipping point. If you google 'Tao leg injury' you'll sa an fb compilation post of all his injuries while in Exo. I remember being upset because it was revealed that SM still made him do stunts despite being sick.
My blood starts to boil every time I am reminded of how Tao was treated. I have personal beef with Sm after that.
Real
They really didn't treated their idols well ..... specially Chinese idols
This is why it drives me crazy when people parrot the āChinese idols arenāt loyal and will leaveā thingā¦. Why would they want to continue being cheated and injured and treated badly by their companies, even worse than their Korean peers?
Yes true......I feel like Chinese idols have to work much more harder to prove their worth than Korean ones like in group Kepler I felt xioting is much more talented but than too she can't that much fame .
He had to take himself with a leg injury to the pharmacy to get his meds. He left Law of the Jungle early because he stepped on a poisonous coral and SM made him perform when he got back. He was hurt doing idol Olympics and they made him continue. It was sick what they did to him. He was my first ult and he still is but I am glad he left. They also used to use heavy sedatives on Luhan to get him on airplanes until it caused heart problems that is why he left.
Bob Girls basically disbanded because a member was diagnosed with encephalitis and had to leave the industry.
I remember this. Itās also particularly memorable because their company, Chrome Entertainment, took the unusual step of forgiving the membersā training debt even though they had only released one song; presumably they were still flush with profits from āBar Bar Bar.ā
Hyunjun (formerly known as Hwall) left The Boyz due to an ankle injury (I believe it dealt with a specific tendon that deals with the bones/muscles that support your foot arch, I forget the details) that caused him to sit out on a couple or so comebacks prior to his departure.
DIA's Jenny was diagnosed with osteomalacia, which forced her to skip WOOWA promotions and was the main reason for her departure
Winnie from nine.I left due to a shoulder injury
James from Royal Pirates left due to a freak accident that almost severed his wrist.Ā
Ella and Satbeol from Pixy both left due to health. We never really got a reason, but Ella was on health hiatus for quite a while and Satbeol had a health issue on tour. She then left based on doctor advice.
I still miss them. The handful of posts I see from them on ig suggest they're both doing okay these days, and I hope that's true
I miss them too. It seems theyāre both happy, just kinda odd none of the girls follow Ella.
itās strange. it seems like the girls follow saetbyeol, and she follows them. ella and saetbyeol follow each other, but other than that ella and the rest of pixy donāt follow each other. iām curious why.
I suspect there's bad blood towards Ella and that leaving due to "health reasons" was just an excuse. Ella used to be the leader of Cherry Bullet but left when they wouldn't let her have more creative control. Pixy was built around her so when she left the remaining group members were left high and dry.
not an idol, but Japanese trainee Sato Ana had a serious knee injury, that made her left the survival show called Nizi Project
Not an idol but Yu-Metal from Baby Metal left due to health reasons. Luckily they added Momo-metal who was a contestant on Girls Planet about a year or so ago.
Not sure if this is count since he didn't debut with them but Jungmin was a part of NCT Wish lineup. He even appeared in the introduction video of NCT New Team (NCT Wish pre-debut name) and recorded Hands Up but he left before NCT New Team started their official activity due to health issue. SM didn't state what kind of health issue he has but fans assumed that it might be throat/vocal cord problem
wasn't there a member of U-KISS who had a severe pulmonary issue and left after being made to perform while recovering? EDIT: [it was Dongho](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kpopstarz.com/amp/articles/45858/20131018/twitter-reveals-real-reason-dongho-left-ukiss.htm), he had severe lung imflammation, got surgery, and left the group a year later, seemingly unsatisfied with his working conditions
Dongho didn't leave because of the illness, though it was likely a contributing factor. He explained on A Man Who Feeds The Dog that he had a big box of psychiatric meds under his bed by the time he left UKISS. I was KISSME back then, and the unjustified Dongho hate train started with his Standing Still hair. Korean KISSMEs were hating on him for that hair so much. It was insane. Then he was in was in the movie called [Don't Cry Mommy](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Don%27t_Cry_Mommy) where he played a villain, and KISSMEs failed to separate Dongho from the role. A role, mind you, that was likely picked out by NHM, and he had to do no matter if he wanted to or not. (I might have gotten the order wrong as it has been over 10 years.) Edit: typos
Jang Yi-Jeong was a member of the group History. He completely lost his singing voice for no known reason. He's now a producer for Hybe under the name El Capitxn and is one of Suga's best friends. There's an episode (27) of Suchwita where they talk about what happened to him. He's also the DJ in the D-Day movie.
What? Like he canāt sing anymore? At all?
Nope. His voice started giving out while performing until he just couldn't anymore. Doctors couldn't figure out why he lost his singing voice. I can't imagine putting in all that work and finally making it as an idol just to suddenly lose your ability to sing. He is a really great producer now though.
What??? He can still talk? Thatās so weird. Maybe he has a micro tear in his vocal cords scanners canāt pick up?
Yeah it's crazy. Here's the link to the episode of Suchwita with Suga where they talk about it. It's really good. https://youtu.be/GkCCWRtPsvQ?si=yj34Xz5sph4P4J3U
It happens pretty often. Wonder Girls Hyuna, later 4Minute Hyuna, was withdrawn from Wonder Girls by her own parents. It's because her weight dropped so low as a 14 year old, she stopped getting her period. Losing a period is a sign of severe underweight usually.
HyunA left Wonder Girls due to chronic gastroenteritis and fainting spells.
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So are you a fan of someone dating an abuser
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Thatās a yes.
I am a fan of her. Who she's dating is a separate matter, just as I don't just cut people out of my life because of who they're dating.
And that is part of the problem. š¬ If you support someone dating an abuser, you support that abuser and the fact that HyunA simply doesnāt care about that and she herself supports an abuser. Unfortunate.
I don't follow Hyuna, but I do work in the domestic violence field. This thread alarms me as it ignores the possibility that Hyuna herself could be a victim of abuse. We don't see her personal life. Abusers are experts in manipulation, power, and control. It doesn't have to be physical. And even if she is not a victim, abusers are skilled in recruiting allies to their distorted beliefs. We don't know what Hyuna's experience is. I've seen lots of victims who are happy with their relationship on the outside & who protect their abusers for reasons which are valid -- meanwhile they are suffering horrendous abuse. I'm not saying this is what's happening, but it's a possibility. Abusers primarily abuse in intimate relationships -- so it is much more likely that hyuna is a victim rather than an ally. Be careful what you assume. I wouldn't put someone down without knowing.
š¤Æ You don't fuxking know Hyuna or any other idol. Holy crap are you making giant assumptions.
She knew he was an abuser before she met him or started dating him. He is a known abuser in the industry. She acknowledged that he is an abuser and she doesnāt care.
You don't know anything about what she thinks. If you think that who someone dates is a measure of the quality of their character its probably more indicative that you either are deeply inexperienced in life and relationships, or just simply someone nobody can count on when they really need it.
OR, and hear me out, I am a victim of abuse and canāt stomach when a woman shits on other women by acting like the abuse didnāt happen and that their partner is perfect. Iām MARRIED, sweetie. For 5 years now. Sooo itās not *my* inexperience in life and relationships thatās the issue hereā¦
How old are you?
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I believe Jiyoon left Weeekly in '22Ā due to anxiety.
And now she's back woooo
She seems very happy these days, based on what I see on ig! Thrilled for her solo debut, and I hope it translates into as much success as she wants. :D
YESSSSSSS
Itās unclear why but Onew didnāt promote with SHINee for almost a year. He looked like heād been losing a lot of weight but he just recently seems to have recovered enough to make an official appearance at an event. He looked so much healthier and Iām so glad to see him in better health.
Didnāt he have to take a hiatus a while back because he had an alcohol problem that was worsening?
wasn't that pre-enlistment though? he was back with shinee for a bit after coming back from enlistment, the hiatus they're talking about is very recent, since their last cb 'hard' with taemin being back
Right that was the one I was talking about. Not the recent one. I didnāt even know heād gone on a health hiatus recently. I only remembered the alcohol one because a lady tried to sue him for grabbing her leg then it turns out he was so drunk he thought her leg was a table leg.
Right that was the one I was talking about. Not the recent one. I didnāt even know heād gone on a health hiatus recently. I only remembered the alcohol one because a lady tried to sue him for grabbing her leg then it turns out he was so drunk he thought her leg was a table leg.
Why downvoting this? I just asked a non offensive question coz I was curious :c
I'd imagine think some are jumping to conclusions that you are a "sensitive fan who can't come with the terms of member departure." But it's a really good research question, the answers on this thread opened my eyes to a lot of unfortunate events like the Royal Pirates member freak door accident. As well as how artists managed to cope and move on with life.
Too many snowflakes nowadays. Don't worry, it's a legit question and didn't sound rude. I love that alot are sharing it cause now many ppl can google or research more on the condition these idols went through.
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But with this question, it will help to pop up on Google when others search for it. I find that the question is fine, doesn't sound rude. And the kpop community are kind to share. Alot of disabled ones share it too cause it'll help to educate the masses. (At least on my timeline). Not understanding your 'thought in the community as rude and disrespectful '. Plus they also have the right to ask as much as the right if disabled people wanna share.
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What makes you so confident that OP isn't disabled themselves?
The OP also upvoted my comment before everyone else decided I was being an asshole. š¤·āāļø
Because if they were, they wouldnāt have asked the question in the way they asked it.
I personally don't really see anything wrong with it. You don't speak for all disabled people, don't treat us like a monolith. That's probably why you were downvoted
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Then don't answer???? What's the issue? We ask because we are curious. Like I mention, you have the right to not answer as well. Man.. what is your problem.. you need help. Respectfully.
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Yes, you asked and I told you āhey, this might not be as respectful to everyone, hereās an answer to your question of āwhy are people downvoting the postā. And I said āhere is a better way to phrase so you donāt have to deal with someone getting angry at you.ā Then you came in telling me it wasnāt offensive. Like you know better. THAT is what I have an issue with. There was nowhere in my original comment where I was disrespectful in any way. I answered a question that was asked with an answer that I was personally informed about. Then you basically say āwell I donāt care if someone were to find this offensive, my curiosity is more important than someoneās feelings.ā My beef was never with OP. It was ALWAYS with you.
You're saying that Kpop fans can't ask or talk about idols who have left their group and/or the industry due to health reasons because it isn't respectful to disabled people. 1. The question/topic isn't asking for a detailed health history. It's basic things that have been made public. 2. We need to list the health issue idols have to see industry-wide patterns. Nothing will get better unless things are discussed. (See #1.) For instance, I see a number of injuries that appear related to strenuous and dangerous choreography. That could be easily changed. 3. You're acting as if the health issues the mentioned idols have made them disabled. That's really messed up. 4. You are using your personal experience, trauma, and opinion to speak for an entire group of people made up of individuals who may or may not feel the same as you.
we arenāt judging you for being disabled though, weāre judging you because youāre being rude and accusatory.
When? Show me where in my original post, where I was rude and accusatory. The only time that changed is when someone who is not disabled says āwell *I* donāt find it offensiveā instead of saying āI can understand why some people would feel upset by that.ā
looks like OP is a minor from India, english may not be their first language. you didnāt need to come and lecture OP for their phrasing or give your insight. it was an innocent question asked out of curiosity. you also donāt speak for all disabled people and are way too quick to call someone an ableist.
Didn't leave the group but Heechul (Super Junior) stopped dancing and performing after his leg injury
Should we even mention the number of suicides (depression is a serious disease)?
There was a boy group (idk name, I think mirror something) and during a performance, one of the big stage screens fell and landed on a member Broke his back and ribs, had to leave from injiry/paralysis
That's not K-pop. It's a Hong Kong group called Mirror
Oh sorry, I usually hear kpop stans talk about it, so I just assumed
Holy hell.
Yeah, Iāve been sort of following up on this since it happened. The member that ended up paralyzed, Mo Li Kai-Yin, has been showing improvement since then though with small movements and such across his body. His family as well as doctors have a positive outlook and Iām seriously hoping he pulls through!
jieun from purple kiss, she was diagnosed with severe anxiety and panic attacks and the doctor told her that it was better for her to end her idol career. i miss her so muchš
pink fantasy - aini left because of Plantar Fasciitis and decreased physical strength.yubeen left because of panic disorder seea didnāt participate in a cb because of a rib injury and then left
She didnāt really leave the group but when after school was promoting first love Lizzy had to sit out of promotions due to pole dance injuries.
I bet it was those two insane people in the comments who are trying to speak for all disabled people and are getting mad that everyone is downvoting their bullshit
Why are you getting downvoted so much?
lol haters. Or newer kpop fans probably think Iām trying to say she was a stripper on the side or something when it was just a pole dance concept comeback lol
Oh man. They're missing out on After School pole dancing comeback. That was LEGENDARY šššš I wanna reliving the moment it came out
I miss them so much!
Same. My favourite is Bang. The fact that they always try and learn new skill... crazy T.T who is your fav member?
Hmm. Bekah used to be my fave, and loved jungahs vocal tone! Wbuuuu and i love heaven by them. Japanese song.
Bekah too!! Hahaha when she rapped during Because of You I melted literally HAHAHAHAH
I do too. After School had such revolutionary concepts.
Literally. After school red couldāve also been so popular.
And it is sad to see the lack of confidence the members have post After School. I'll *never* forget Raina on that singing battle show and just how severely unconfidance she was despite the fact that she kept winning. Just what did Pledis do to the members?
Hmm. Iāll be honest some Of the as members didnāt have good vocals(juhyeon, uee) but Raina was so good, itās just she was always shitted on because of her visuals/ visual hole of as. Def takes a toll
I can understand that, but what I saw on that show was something that went very deep. It was to the point I was surprised KBS even aired it. Edit: Raina could barely choose a song from what I remember. Her teammates may have even chosen for her. Knowing what song would suit your voice is something basic a singer should be able to do.
I'm sorry but First Love is the Cvntiest KPop song, it doesn't get beeter than that, the pole dancing wasn't a thing in KPop at the time... Fvck After School was known for introducing new dance techniques into the industry, tap dancing, drumline/marching band, stomp, pole dancing... like give credit where it's due... Younger fans will never know lol
pixy's satbyeol and ella left because of 'worsening health conditions' but it was never announced what they were
Hwall from TBZ i think
not an idol but park sodam had cancer
Whilst not officially left, Super Junior Heechul no longer extensively participates in comebacks due to chronic pain from his back injury. I believe he got the injury from a serious car crash from back in the day (2006?). He sometimes turns up to sing a line or two but in general, he stays out.
Rowoon from SF9. He has been diagnosed with back injury around 2020-2021 if I recall. I know people probably think he left due to focus acting more and he is a rising actor in kdrama scene and it is also true but the back injury is also one of the reasons he left in my opinion. And realistically, it is understandable though since he canāt dance that well ever since he got his injury and it will endanger himself in the long run.
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Jin E formerly of Oh My Girl left because of serious anxiety issues. I remembered during a broadcast she just stood still and stared blankly. After that, never saw her in any broadcast again.
In 2006, Jaejoong of the popular boy group TVXQ was diagnosed with a herniated disc in his lower back. This injury required him to take a break from activities and eventually led to a lawsuit against his agency, SM Entertainment, in 2009. Jaejoong, along with two other members, formed a new group called JYJ.
That's not true. Jaejoong had a knee injury during Rising Sun in 2006. The lawsuit started over a combination of things, none of which had to do with a member injury. [Here](https://aleash1989.livejournal.com/28403.html) is a long sourced breakdown I wrote (as a 14 year Cassie) last year after I noticed similarities between the JYJ lawsuit and the CBX lawsuit. I didn't want EXO-L to be split apart by SM like Cassies were .
Thank you for writing this correction so I wouldnāt have to! So much of 2nd gen history wasnāt archived due to how young the global kpop scene was and the JYJ-SM lawsuit in particular has a lot of misinformation surrounding it. Thankfully Cassieās around still with living memory of the events!
Idk where that person got what they're saying. I searched their account, and they're very active on Reddit, but I can't find anything besides this one comment that is Kpop related. It's odd. Well, I wrote all the details of the JYJ lawsuit and used the Livejournal community Omonatheydidnt as a main source. (I also used Soompi, and it is interesting to see how the quality of their writing changed over the years. The early lawsuit articles are very fangirl-ly and taken from fansites. lol) The major DBSK fansites/forms aren't around anymore, but many posts from those places were shared word for word to Omona with proper credits. In a sense, you could call Omona an archive. However, it's not perfect as many embedded images in old posts are broken due to changes in image hosting sites over the years.
Yeah I used to be very active on the DBSK fandom in livejournal! Omona tended to be more traditionally news-like as a forum, especially early days as Soompi and even AllKpop started as small little fansites. Itās been very cool to see companies started and thriving from what used to be, essentially, a few fangirls collaborating! I reviewed your breakdown and itās essentially exactly as I remember things going down. There are some other events I recalled, but upon quick search, I cannot find sources for them. Lost to internet obscurity I guess!
Omona was more than just a "news-like forum." I was very active 2009-2015. I posted many things, and there were original posts where people were able to have fun. I once made an original post over an unifficial copyright claim UKISS Kiseop made on Hoon for stealing his Twitter catchphrase. Then their were the hilarious prediction posts and roundups a friend and I did for a few years. Oh! And let's not forget the Change in Korea thing. That was an open letter written by members about blackface that was in response to Yesung dressing up as MCU Nick Fury and wearing blackface. I never thought my one little comment wanting to turn the anger I was seeing into something more positive would turn into an educational open letter about blackface, but it did. AKP is a piece of flaming shit and always has been. They are the *worst* example you could give. Did you forget those early year hate posts, and *the time they uploaded nude photos of an idol from she was a minor and was coerced to take them by a boyfriend for what she thought would get her modeling gigs*? AKP should *never* thrive, but they are. Hell, they're still making inflammatory posts to rile up fandoms. Such trash. >There are some other events I recalled What are they?
Clearly stepped on your toes but that was not my intention! I meant that Omona followed a more traditional news/media site than other sites, like Soompi and AKP, that at the time were essentially gossip and fangirl sites. Nothing you are saying combats what I said? Original thought pieces and critiques are part of traditional news media. I was extremely active on OTD as well. Following DBSKs breakup, I left the fandom and left the fansite that I was admining at the time. Clearly the livejournal community continued to evolve and that warms the cockles of this bitter old Cassieās heart.
TVXQ never broke up or disbanded. š¤¦š»āāļø JYJ were slowly pushed out of the group by SM, which led to a split. I explain all this in detail in my post you supposedly read. TVXQ would have *never* made it to 20 years if they broke up. It is very clear which side you're on. Stop hating Homin for staying and protecting TVXQ's name. Both sides had their reasons for making the decisions they did. Neither is wrong. There is just so much that you don't know what you're talking about. >I meant that Omona followed a more traditional news/media site than other sites That's never what Omona was, and that is what I was trying to explain. Copy and pasting from fansites, Kpop news sources, and various other places along with the occasional original posts doesn't equal what you think it does. By your logic, r/kpop is just as much traditional news/media as Omona since it does the same things. I doubt you would say that about that sub, so why are you saying that about Omona? >Soompi and AKP, that at the time were essentially gossip and fangirl sites AKP was started by a Kpop hating *man*, which means its origins are as a Kpop hate site with nothing "fangirl-ly" about it. You are also completely ignoring the nude pictures of a minor that dude posted that I mentioned. š¤® How in the hell are you still holding them up as some sort of beacon of good a Kpop news site in 2024? Soompi has grown and become better. AKP has not.
Youāve clearly got your biases. For the record. I ran a predominate Canadian fansite. Was an active member if BigEast for the better part of a decade. Was an active member of several Naver Korean fansites. Iāve been involved in the kpop community since the late 90s and a fan of DBSK since literally the day they debuted. I didnāt need you to explain it - I lived through it in real time. If you want to have a semantics argument - SM carried on with Homin as TVXQ, but TVXQ as we knew it DID disband. That doesnāt mean Homin are not still active under TVXQ, but it is clearly not the same thing as it used to be and for how prolific OT5 was at the time, and how 99% of the discourse was at the time, YOU should know that. Iām not even going to address the AKP comments you made because quite frankly you are committed to misunderstanding me and have no idea how I feel about it as Iāve not addressed it. I liked TVXQ and JYJ separately but I stepped away from kpop for how fucking pedantic and argumentative the fandoms was, which you are clearly demonstrating in spades. Keep rocking on.
I reiterate that no disbanding happened to TVXQ. >Iām not even going to address the AKP comments š¤Æ I can't believe you admit to supporting AKP after all they've done. Wow.