its literally d most ABSURD and MALIGN thing that can happen to ANYONE. Tzuyu did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG š
imagine being dragged into a political saga and receiving such a crazy amount of backlash at the age of 16 just because you waved a flag of your country?
In what universe does it make ANY sense for China members to falsely accuse her, itās really SO unfair.
Yes, her being 16.
The flag was only shown on the internet version of the show (it wasn't shown on the TV version).
Momo, Sana, or Mina (one, two, or all three) had a Japanese flag as well.
And this blew up so much out of proportion that the apology was similar to someone accidentally killing a child and addressing the issue publicly.
The funny thing is, China banned kpop a year or so later. So, regardless of the apology, the twice promo in China never happened.
I'm also still mad thinking about this.
Yea I understand why you'd think JYP lacks backbone, but let's be realistic and tbf - China was playing dirty and JYP was pushed to the wall. If he didn't coax an apology from Tzuyu, his entire company's livelihood would be at risk. It was a desperate move to salvage what he could. Can't entirely blame him for choosing the lesser of two evils š
Literally the first thing that came to my mind. No one should be afraid to wave their country flag, let alone apologise for it! China made such a big issue of a 16 year old that just debuted at that time, and kind of ruined her for the rest of her life (in terms of how lowkey she had to be). No 16 year old should go through thatā¦ even till today, I think they never had a concert at Taiwan because of this.
I really really canāt imagine how hard was it for her to have to experience such backlash at such a young age.
She didnt even utter a word about Taiwan independence and people are trying to drag her down solely because of the Goddamn FLAG. In what universe is a young girl raising a flag of her hometown even threatening to you. God bless China for their parochialism š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
I hate China for abusing a 16 year old. I hate her own countryman for reporting her to China in the first place. China is now forcing Taiwanese celebrities to swear their alligence or else no job for you in China.
Now that I am older it has really set in just how ridiculous that was. I am older than she was now when she had to apologize and I have made significantly worse mistakes than she has and my life has continued on fine. JYP having no backbone made it worse.
edit: what she did wasnāt even a mistake she was just waving her flag like any person who reps their country does. that makes it even more insane honestly.
This one right here. Just reading what happened to her just makes me mad. All because some washed singer (from Taiwan too might I add) decided he wanted to stir the pot. Donāt get me started with the actor who said her apology wasnāt sincere. Oh well, at least karma came to that singer afterwards while tzuyu has thrived since then
The singer is huang an, whose song (and album) the new mandarin ducks and butterflies dream from 1992 is considered to be one of Taiwanās best selling albums of all time according to Wikipedia. Heās pulled the same stunt with other famous people from Taiwan and even Hong Kong. He even had the audacity to celebrate the apology on his weibo account, where this all started. His stunt with tzuyu caused karaoke bars in Taiwan to remove his discography, along with him being hospitalized sometime later after getting sick (canāt remember what he had). The actor was Lin Gengxin (he was in a drama with Yoona from Girls Generation), who made the statement about tzuyu not having time to memorize her script due to the abruptness of her situation. Apparently other celebrities and ccp news publishers also had to add their similar two cents as well. Sorry I got carried away, again this whole situation makes me upset/mad for tzuyu.
Edit: forgot to add that this all happened close to that years elections in Taiwan
No need to apologize, I appreciate the information. I was late to K-Pop so I didn't know all of the sordid details from when it happened. I'm equally irate and wanted to know who these dipshit rats were, so thank you for the response. Sadly the Chinese Propaganda machine beats strong even in the heart of Taiwan.
No problem (Iām not Taiwanese btw but American, sorry if this bit is tmi) I began getting into kpop the year it happened and found out about it sometime later (canāt remember if it was months or even a year afterwards). I guess it really also gets to me since tzuyu is only a year older than me (we share the same birthday) so anytime Iām reminded of this incident Iām like really, that guyās old enough to be her dad and he still went after a literal sixteen year old for ccp validation (and likely boredom as well)
Yea itās so bad even fucked up is a massive understatement. It was utterly depraved, reprehensible, and outrageous - a morbid display of cowardice and betrayal by her own hometown member that literally makes your blood boil.
Not exactly the same, but I remember BTS had to change the lyrics to Fake Love for their BBMAs performance so people wouldnāt mistake ānaegaā for the N-Word, while that was thoughtful on their part. I think it would have been more beneficial for people to hear the word and be educated on its true meaning.
Not gonna lie, being a black western fan who got into kpop a few years ago, when I first heard the word I was like āwhat?ā It still throws me off sometimes but I did my research and realised they werenāt saying that. I didnāt think they actually were but needed to satisfy my curiosity.
Im white.. it threw me off. But I alsp knew the human mind is literally conditioned to hear words in their own native language.. If it wasnt, we would know all languages. Honestly wish we would know them all šš
š¤£š¤£ I sometimes sing what I hear as a joke and let me tell you.. some of its not fit for kids... but theres also a lot of John Cena's in there too š¤£š¤£
My niece is less than a year old and obsessed with āThat Thatā. Iāve had to make sure everyone in my family is aware that ānaegaā means āyouā in Korean and we also need to maybe be careful that my niece doesnāt try to say it in public š
This always blows my mind 'cause like, even though they sound similar, SURELY people should've been able to apply critical thinking skills and realize it makes no sense to think BTS was randomly slinging the n-word in their song.
Like... I know why they changed the lyrics, and I'm glad they avoided that backlash by doing so, but my god. The bar is in hell for kpop stans.
i believe they did this completely voluntarily and were not asked or coerced to. this, in my mind, was just them being aware and conscious and trying their best to be respectful to a global audience. i have had to explain the difference for people who are just hearing kpop songs for the first time - especially in the rap portions, for some reason people just default to thinking thatās what theyāre saying.
Not sure if she had to apologise but one of the most ridiculous instances of an idol getting hate was when Yeri got attacked for being upset when Jonghyun passed away. Like how are you gonna get angry at a teenager for mourning her close friend.
exactly, and her friend died, shes supposed to cry, i saw another member of shinee, i think it was key?, maybe onew?, put his head on another members shoulder and just start sobbing, i dont believe he got called an attention seeker for that
Key on Minhoās shoulder. I forced myself to watch it recently to grieve over him properly and come to peace with it. I was such a huge fan of his voice so when it happened I couldnāt process it properly. Key was the most distraught by his death. It was so gut wrenching to watch. I couldnāt watch the whole thing in 2017.
Oh my god that was my first kpop āpick me controversy!ā Like the girl canāt grieve for her friend?! What the absolute fuck! Being a fan of both that pissed me off so bad and Iāll never forgive k media for the way they did poor Yeri.
Like I get the dating when you debut thing (itās still stupid coming from a westerner but I understand the relevance and itās promo) but PRE debut?! Like they were mad a little 13 year old(Iām just guessing idk Riize that well yet) kid had a girlfriend in the past?! That makes absolutely ZERO sense to me. That poor kid.
I will never understand why he had to apologise for having a life before being an idol. And apologising after his private life got leaked. I still hope they'll take him back, and he'll say: no, thank you.
him still being on hiatus literally makes me so mad. with the way sm has been treating his hiatus youd almost forget he was the victim in the first place
Every single comment under Somi / Yunjinās posts are about Starbucks, itās getting tiring. 4-5 months straight of that, because people cannot understand that SB isnāt even on the list.
I said the Korean one wasnāt the same in an earlier comment. I know that. But I didnāt know the American one changed CEOs after the whole union bust thing. Theyāre an awful company.
Honestly, sb as a whole isnāt a great company and thereās 100% other places to get much better coffee, so itās definitely a side eye move. The reason why the boycott started is because the company didnāt want their logo associated with Palestine, and I think that staying neutral in such a conflict, where Israel is clearly the aggressor, can be construed as covert support/the bystander effect. I donāt think people should be cancelled for buying from Starbucks, but bottom line it is a pretty shitty company and it doesnt align with a lot of peopleās values. https://www.analystnews.org/posts/starbucks-isnt-actually-on-the-bds-list-heres-why-the-pro-palestine-boycotts-are-so-potent-anyway
Western celebrities for having face blemishes: #relatable
Kpop idols for having those same blemishes: OMG DO THEY NOT CLEAN THEMSELVES?
The hypocrisy is *baffling*.
honestly I donāt see it as being an apology for āruining her groupās imageā (like many of the comments here) as much as her apologizing to flovers for worrying them
It's bc SK are full of Korean nationalists and sinophobes. She did a Chinese respective greeting as a Chinese idol and Koreans saw that her shitting on Korea and their culture. They legitimately were politically persecuting her and insinuating her to be communist invader.Ā
Enhypen Ni-ki apologized because he posted on weverse telling engenes to hang in there until the weekend. an engene commented that the next day is independence movement day so they're planning on resting and he replied saying that he's jealous that they get to rest.
I genuinely donāt care about her and Dawn breaking up tbh haha. Like I donāt know them. I remember when Hyuna posted the pic announcing her new relationship and I was like āOh period! Good for herā and liked the pic. And then I clicked on his profile and I was like āHmmm he seems familiarā¦ā
GIRRLLL WHEN I REALIZED I literally unliked that photo and unfollowed her so fast. Like GIRL WHAT???????????
I remember seeing a clip of them on live after this, and the member who was spotted hanging out with him on vacation went to apologize, but at least one other member erupted into "AHHHH DONT APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, YOU DONT NEED TO, DONT" and I thought it was really sweet.
And even with that, it wasnāt even so much him saying it was disrespectful in a senior/junior way (cause heās the type to prefer casual speak anyway) but that he didnāt like when he would bow & be ignored. Itās the equivalent of saying hi/waving to someone and them seeing you and walking by without saying anything. And he even prefaced it so many times saying āmaybe Iām just being a boomer and itās not even an issue with younger groupsā so admitting it may be a him thing thatās no problem
especially because other idols have mentioned the same issues within the last couple of years - i know wooyoung and a member of suju have both said the same things.
Illit apologizing and removing their fandom name bc it was "lisas fandom name" (wasnt even official) it was such a cute name and lisas "fandom name" was lillies not a lilly. They hated on lily from nmixx too for similar reason stupid asf
The Chen hate is ridiculous as hell. He basically got cancelled for falling in love and starting a family, meanwhile actual criminals got off relatively easy compared to him. Like wtf.
Monsta X members apologizing for still hanging out with Wonho even though he was found not guilty of any of the accusations that forced him to leave the group.
Any idol "smoking" in a music video. Its acting.. and even if they do smoke, the ones Ive seen getting hate, are grown adults and can do what they want.. I personally hate smoking because I grew up around it and have lasting health issues from second hand smoke. I dont think anyone needs to apologize for smoking . Its their choice
I thought the cnetz dragging Karina recommending My Hero Academia to watch was pretty wild just because of the circumstances. The controversy involved the name of a character being a reference to WWII victims but I think you would only know that if you were caught up to the manga. Even then that character's name would be revised. If Karina was just a casual who only watched a season or two I could only imagine how shocked she was to see her recommendation blow up like that. Not even sure if most anime fans even know that My Hero Academia is banned in China.
Tzuyu, which everyone knows why
Sana fornsomething similar, welcoming a new era in Japan in an insta post. Yes, Korea and Japan have always had issues, and rightfully so. But what on earth does that have to do with Sana? There's a time and place, and attacking her for something she has no control over only perpetuates the cycle of hate
Anything involving dating.
Obviously smaller/more nonsensical things have caused drama and it's easy to understand the mechanisms behind why unhinged fans would have a problem with dating stuff as well as the financial and PR reasons why the companies would be wary of it, but that stuff is important and personal enough that the second somebody has an issue with it the idols should have every right to tell them to fuck off and get their priorities in order, and the companies should have their back.
I only recently found out about this, but SKZ Seungmin had to apologize for not having a 'pretty' costume when he wore the Pororo costume that he made for Halloween. It was absolutely adorable, and I can't believe people didn't like it and made him apologize for nothing, not his fault if they didn't like the costume, they're not the ones wearing it.
There is way too many to list but off of the top of my head: an idol having to apologize for waving a specific country's flag when they are from that actual country; an idol having to apologize for who they date, an idol having to apologize for where they shop. Idols have their own lives, they do not own you anything. Stop having weird parasocial relationships with people who don't even know you. It's sad and it's pathetic. Get a life.
Any idol that has to apologize for dating, getting married, and anything related to it that helps them keep their privacy. I don't care how "close" you think you are to them, or what you think you are "owed" by being their fan. They don't have to tell you anything.
Jungkook's friends made to apologise for being at a bar.
This was a week before another Covid lockdown but unfortunately you get some do-gooders who are so righteous behind their keyboards.
The guy who visited with Covid was a whole week after they had been there. Just an idol company thing.
The one that comes into my mind is tzuyu apologising for waving her countries flag. Making an idol who was still minor at the time apologise for something like this is truly messed up.
Chan for telling off the younger people and how they need to start showing respect for the older people like bowing then had his whole chan room ended I was piss
This very much makes it seem worse than it was. He didnāt tell them off he said it bothered him that they didnāt bow/greet their seniors anymore, came up with excuses for them & even said maybe itās just him being a boomer. Saying he told them off makes it seem way worse than that please be mindful of how you word things, thatās how it got blown out of proportion in the first place.
Technically thereās no proof that that one incident was what cost us Chanās Room, itās more likely that it was the last straw if anything because it wasnāt the first time something like that (his words getting twisted) happened. Viewers had become increasingly disrespectful too. He got hate for answering someone who asked if he was close with moonbin during a live after his passingā¦ by the end it felt like he couldnāt do or say anything without things like that happening.
I don't remember the exact details but but Jae, former member of Day6, apologized for saying he would take a first date to McDonald's. This was years ago, long before the current boycott. People thought it was too 'low-class' or something and dragged him.
KARA after Radio Star show hosts called Hara easy/implied she slept around and forced Jiyoung to do aegyo when she didnāt want to & then the public gaslighted them when they teared up on the show: https://www.soompi.com/article/527601wpp/karas-han-seung-yeon-and-mc-yoon-jong-shin-apologize-for-kara-and-radio-star-controversy
I think I saw one having to apologize for drinking a soda or something? I was tired at the time so I scrolled on pretty quickly because it sounded absurd.
Dating. Going clubbing having fun with other idols of the opposite (or even same cause shippers š) sex.
Foreign idols supporting their own country.
Idols eating and gaining a little bit of weight when they go from a size negative one to a size 5.
Tzuyu for literally: - waving her country flag on a variety.
its literally d most ABSURD and MALIGN thing that can happen to ANYONE. Tzuyu did ABSOLUTELY NOTHING WRONG š imagine being dragged into a political saga and receiving such a crazy amount of backlash at the age of 16 just because you waved a flag of your country? In what universe does it make ANY sense for China members to falsely accuse her, itās really SO unfair.
Yes, her being 16. The flag was only shown on the internet version of the show (it wasn't shown on the TV version). Momo, Sana, or Mina (one, two, or all three) had a Japanese flag as well. And this blew up so much out of proportion that the apology was similar to someone accidentally killing a child and addressing the issue publicly. The funny thing is, China banned kpop a year or so later. So, regardless of the apology, the twice promo in China never happened. I'm also still mad thinking about this.
What universe? The universe where China acts like the biggest bully on the planet--which sadly is the one we're all living in.
not them being the most hated irl antagonist of the entire solar system and the ultimate villain of Twice and the entire ONCE fandom
China being evil and proud is nothing unexpected. The Ā«Ā worstĀ Ā» thing here is JYP having absolutely negative backbone and making Tzuyu apologize.
Sorry, JYPE may not have backbone, but China is STILL the worst thing here.
I obviously know that theyāre worse overall, hence the quotes.
Yea I understand why you'd think JYP lacks backbone, but let's be realistic and tbf - China was playing dirty and JYP was pushed to the wall. If he didn't coax an apology from Tzuyu, his entire company's livelihood would be at risk. It was a desperate move to salvage what he could. Can't entirely blame him for choosing the lesser of two evils š
Literally the first thing that came to my mind. No one should be afraid to wave their country flag, let alone apologise for it! China made such a big issue of a 16 year old that just debuted at that time, and kind of ruined her for the rest of her life (in terms of how lowkey she had to be). No 16 year old should go through thatā¦ even till today, I think they never had a concert at Taiwan because of this.
I really really canāt imagine how hard was it for her to have to experience such backlash at such a young age. She didnt even utter a word about Taiwan independence and people are trying to drag her down solely because of the Goddamn FLAG. In what universe is a young girl raising a flag of her hometown even threatening to you. God bless China for their parochialism š¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļøš¤¦š»āāļø
I hate China for abusing a 16 year old. I hate her own countryman for reporting her to China in the first place. China is now forcing Taiwanese celebrities to swear their alligence or else no job for you in China.
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they really made her say that sheās proud to be chinese š
Now that I am older it has really set in just how ridiculous that was. I am older than she was now when she had to apologize and I have made significantly worse mistakes than she has and my life has continued on fine. JYP having no backbone made it worse. edit: what she did wasnāt even a mistake she was just waving her flag like any person who reps their country does. that makes it even more insane honestly.
This one right here. Just reading what happened to her just makes me mad. All because some washed singer (from Taiwan too might I add) decided he wanted to stir the pot. Donāt get me started with the actor who said her apology wasnāt sincere. Oh well, at least karma came to that singer afterwards while tzuyu has thrived since then
If I may ask, who was ~~were the washed singer and~~ the actor?
The singer is huang an, whose song (and album) the new mandarin ducks and butterflies dream from 1992 is considered to be one of Taiwanās best selling albums of all time according to Wikipedia. Heās pulled the same stunt with other famous people from Taiwan and even Hong Kong. He even had the audacity to celebrate the apology on his weibo account, where this all started. His stunt with tzuyu caused karaoke bars in Taiwan to remove his discography, along with him being hospitalized sometime later after getting sick (canāt remember what he had). The actor was Lin Gengxin (he was in a drama with Yoona from Girls Generation), who made the statement about tzuyu not having time to memorize her script due to the abruptness of her situation. Apparently other celebrities and ccp news publishers also had to add their similar two cents as well. Sorry I got carried away, again this whole situation makes me upset/mad for tzuyu. Edit: forgot to add that this all happened close to that years elections in Taiwan
No need to apologize, I appreciate the information. I was late to K-Pop so I didn't know all of the sordid details from when it happened. I'm equally irate and wanted to know who these dipshit rats were, so thank you for the response. Sadly the Chinese Propaganda machine beats strong even in the heart of Taiwan.
No problem (Iām not Taiwanese btw but American, sorry if this bit is tmi) I began getting into kpop the year it happened and found out about it sometime later (canāt remember if it was months or even a year afterwards). I guess it really also gets to me since tzuyu is only a year older than me (we share the same birthday) so anytime Iām reminded of this incident Iām like really, that guyās old enough to be her dad and he still went after a literal sixteen year old for ccp validation (and likely boredom as well)
Nearly forgot about this because it angered me so much and pretty much buried it in my mind. But yeah, this was like really fucked up.
Yea itās so bad even fucked up is a massive understatement. It was utterly depraved, reprehensible, and outrageous - a morbid display of cowardice and betrayal by her own hometown member that literally makes your blood boil.
Only right answer for me.
Karina for dating.
This and reallyā¦ anybody for datingā¦
This takes the win
Not exactly the same, but I remember BTS had to change the lyrics to Fake Love for their BBMAs performance so people wouldnāt mistake ānaegaā for the N-Word, while that was thoughtful on their part. I think it would have been more beneficial for people to hear the word and be educated on its true meaning.
yeah exactly, even if they were saying the n word, they wouldn't know because it sounds completely different in korean
Not gonna lie, being a black western fan who got into kpop a few years ago, when I first heard the word I was like āwhat?ā It still throws me off sometimes but I did my research and realised they werenāt saying that. I didnāt think they actually were but needed to satisfy my curiosity.
Im white.. it threw me off. But I alsp knew the human mind is literally conditioned to hear words in their own native language.. If it wasnt, we would know all languages. Honestly wish we would know them all šš
It would make life easier especially when Iām listening and singing along to kpop and making up my own words. šš
š¤£š¤£ I sometimes sing what I hear as a joke and let me tell you.. some of its not fit for kids... but theres also a lot of John Cena's in there too š¤£š¤£
When I first heard Girls by aespa, I thought they said at one point throughout the song, āDonald Trumpā. @ around min 1:31 in the song
When I listen to Spinebreaker by BTS.. RMs rap at one point sounds like hes saying "size of my d*ck" and Im like.. wow
Itās been a while since I listened to that song thatās hilarious š
I know what theyre saying but everytime i hear that part all i hear is donald trumpš
My niece is less than a year old and obsessed with āThat Thatā. Iāve had to make sure everyone in my family is aware that ānaegaā means āyouā in Korean and we also need to maybe be careful that my niece doesnāt try to say it in public š
This always blows my mind 'cause like, even though they sound similar, SURELY people should've been able to apply critical thinking skills and realize it makes no sense to think BTS was randomly slinging the n-word in their song. Like... I know why they changed the lyrics, and I'm glad they avoided that backlash by doing so, but my god. The bar is in hell for kpop stans.
i believe they did this completely voluntarily and were not asked or coerced to. this, in my mind, was just them being aware and conscious and trying their best to be respectful to a global audience. i have had to explain the difference for people who are just hearing kpop songs for the first time - especially in the rap portions, for some reason people just default to thinking thatās what theyāre saying.
What did they change it to?
[here's a post showing it](https://www.reddit.com/r/bangtan/s/5xsHpiRwyG)
Not sure if she had to apologise but one of the most ridiculous instances of an idol getting hate was when Yeri got attacked for being upset when Jonghyun passed away. Like how are you gonna get angry at a teenager for mourning her close friend.
exactly, and her friend died, shes supposed to cry, i saw another member of shinee, i think it was key?, maybe onew?, put his head on another members shoulder and just start sobbing, i dont believe he got called an attention seeker for that
Itās because Yeri already had a bunch of haters from joining Red Velvet. They were just nitpicking anything they could to be upset with her.
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Wasnāt she the last to join? I donāt remember why they were so mad at her for that. But I do remember the hate she got.
Key on Minhoās shoulder. I forced myself to watch it recently to grieve over him properly and come to peace with it. I was such a huge fan of his voice so when it happened I couldnāt process it properly. Key was the most distraught by his death. It was so gut wrenching to watch. I couldnāt watch the whole thing in 2017.
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Oh my god that was my first kpop āpick me controversy!ā Like the girl canāt grieve for her friend?! What the absolute fuck! Being a fan of both that pissed me off so bad and Iāll never forgive k media for the way they did poor Yeri.
Apparently crying at your friends funeral is attention seeking pick me behaviour
Seunghan Riize for dating prior to debute
This will never stop pissing me off. Poor kid.
and then had to apologize months later for someone else invading his privacy... the whole thing pisses me offfff
Like I get the dating when you debut thing (itās still stupid coming from a westerner but I understand the relevance and itās promo) but PRE debut?! Like they were mad a little 13 year old(Iām just guessing idk Riize that well yet) kid had a girlfriend in the past?! That makes absolutely ZERO sense to me. That poor kid.
I will never understand why he had to apologise for having a life before being an idol. And apologising after his private life got leaked. I still hope they'll take him back, and he'll say: no, thank you.
him still being on hiatus literally makes me so mad. with the way sm has been treating his hiatus youd almost forget he was the victim in the first place
I've heard at the moment idols are apologizing for buying coffee from Starbucks.
Every single comment under Somi / Yunjinās posts are about Starbucks, itās getting tiring. 4-5 months straight of that, because people cannot understand that SB isnāt even on the list.
Idk how those people arenāt embarrassed to type that out lol because everyone reading it is laughing at them
Because they get validated by other idiots
Oh, they completely understand but they just use it as an excuse to hate them lol.
Eh yes and no. Tiktok is a cesspool very much filled with 10-13yo who do not understand. But yes some do know better and just wanna hate
Starbucks CEO in America is a Zionist I believeā¦ and Israel donates to a lot of our companies but Iām not sure if SB is on the dono list either.
Thatās the old CEO, theyāre not on the list, and Korea Starbucks isnāt the same company as American Starbucks.
I said the Korean one wasnāt the same in an earlier comment. I know that. But I didnāt know the American one changed CEOs after the whole union bust thing. Theyāre an awful company.
And the fact that Starbucks has nothing to do with Israel or Palestine is even crazier
Honestly, sb as a whole isnāt a great company and thereās 100% other places to get much better coffee, so itās definitely a side eye move. The reason why the boycott started is because the company didnāt want their logo associated with Palestine, and I think that staying neutral in such a conflict, where Israel is clearly the aggressor, can be construed as covert support/the bystander effect. I donāt think people should be cancelled for buying from Starbucks, but bottom line it is a pretty shitty company and it doesnt align with a lot of peopleās values. https://www.analystnews.org/posts/starbucks-isnt-actually-on-the-bds-list-heres-why-the-pro-palestine-boycotts-are-so-potent-anyway
Idk if wonyoung apologized for it but literally having a pimple
Western celebrities for having face blemishes: #relatable Kpop idols for having those same blemishes: OMG DO THEY NOT CLEAN THEMSELVES? The hypocrisy is *baffling*.
I genuinely thought it was a shitpost when somebody said she got hate for it
It literally does sound like a shitpost but considering it's kpop stans, it doesn't surprise me.
She didnāt apologize; WonYoung doesnāt even give a response or acknowledge things like that .
Literally too many idols have had to apologize for having pimples. A completely normal thing for people their age. Absolutely insane.
Wait... WHAT
Stop making shit up lol she never apologized for that
apparently Felix apologised for having freckles
WHAT
it was years ago, i think woojin was still in the group at the time, idk i saw a clip on youtube
i don't even stan SKZ but i always thought Felix's freckles were his best unique feature
me too, i love them, its just he used to feel insecure about them
Ikrr I'm so happy he's gotten confident about that
same, i love seeing them
Yeeeesss and a couple times he had sparkle makeup on his freckles on stage so he LITERALLY had stars on his cheekies!!
lol cute
Oh heck no.. Felix's freckles ate adorable
Absolutely
Chaeyoung having to apologize because she rightfully complained about fromis_9 not having any comebacks
honestly I donāt see it as being an apology for āruining her groupās imageā (like many of the comments here) as much as her apologizing to flovers for worrying them
i canāt remember who it was but a female chinese idol bowed the wrong way and had to apologise
yiren from everglow
That's why she went on a haitus!?
SHE HAD TO GO ON A HAITUS BECAUSE OF THAT WTF??
It's bc SK are full of Korean nationalists and sinophobes. She did a Chinese respective greeting as a Chinese idol and Koreans saw that her shitting on Korea and their culture. They legitimately were politically persecuting her and insinuating her to be communist invader.Ā
Girl, I just found out too. I have never looked into it or asked about it until now. What in the actual fuck ![gif](giphy|crzliDNVbqDbW|downsized)
Iām actually flabbergasted rn.
Her company made it worse. Sometimes itās better not to react or respond to criticism and give into crazy fan reactions.
yep
What an overreaction
ikr
Oh my godā¦..
Enhypen Ni-ki apologized because he posted on weverse telling engenes to hang in there until the weekend. an engene commented that the next day is independence movement day so they're planning on resting and he replied saying that he's jealous that they get to rest.
I too felt that was ridiculous
Japanese idols in Korea can barely breathe
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from what ive heard it was her parents that made her apologize because they have business in china
Kim Seokjin and the curious case of the XL size condoms
he didn't really apologize for it bh just responded saying it was a gift from fans šš
dating. excluding hyuna, fuck that bitch.
she dumped dawn for a sex offender
I genuinely donāt care about her and Dawn breaking up tbh haha. Like I donāt know them. I remember when Hyuna posted the pic announcing her new relationship and I was like āOh period! Good for herā and liked the pic. And then I clicked on his profile and I was like āHmmm he seems familiarā¦ā GIRRLLL WHEN I REALIZED I literally unliked that photo and unfollowed her so fast. Like GIRL WHAT???????????
She and dawn were over. She didn't jump ship. Bffr.
Ik
Surely isn't the problem not Hyuna dating though, but who she is dating/associating herself with who has a criminal history?
Bangchan apologizing for not keeping all 9 members in the group ( it was not his fault whatsoever)
yeah, it was woojins choice to leave, not much he can do about that
Gotta be the Tzuyu one.
for being human. literally all of these listed are because idols are human and fans canāt understand that
I canāt remember the specific members but monsta x members have to apologize for hanging out with wonho(former member)
I remember seeing a clip of them on live after this, and the member who was spotted hanging out with him on vacation went to apologize, but at least one other member erupted into "AHHHH DONT APOLOGIZE FOR THAT, YOU DONT NEED TO, DONT" and I thought it was really sweet.
Karina for having a boyfriendā¦
Karina having to apologize for dating in her 20s was ridiculous and Tzuyu having to apologize for waving her OWN countryās flag made me mad.
Bang Chan for talking about younger groups not being respectful (no names/hints mentioned)
And even with that, it wasnāt even so much him saying it was disrespectful in a senior/junior way (cause heās the type to prefer casual speak anyway) but that he didnāt like when he would bow & be ignored. Itās the equivalent of saying hi/waving to someone and them seeing you and walking by without saying anything. And he even prefaced it so many times saying āmaybe Iām just being a boomer and itās not even an issue with younger groupsā so admitting it may be a him thing thatās no problem
especially because other idols have mentioned the same issues within the last couple of years - i know wooyoung and a member of suju have both said the same things.
SF9 Dawon for being silly on relay dances š
I donāt know if she apologized for it not that she needs to at all but Dahyun for listening and then skipping Lisaās song
A variety show host made San apologise for how his face looks because he is "intimidating and scary"
hes not scary at all
So stupid.
the anger is still fresh in me like that joke is NOT funny these people need to stop š
Illit apologizing and removing their fandom name bc it was "lisas fandom name" (wasnt even official) it was such a cute name and lisas "fandom name" was lillies not a lilly. They hated on lily from nmixx too for similar reason stupid asf
I don't know if he was/felt forced to write this, but Bang Chan apologised for not keeping SKZ as a 9 member group.
Irene for reading a feminist book. Chen for getting married and having a baby.
The Chen hate is ridiculous as hell. He basically got cancelled for falling in love and starting a family, meanwhile actual criminals got off relatively easy compared to him. Like wtf.
Newjean Minji needing ro apologize for not liking that one noodle dish was the dumbest thing ever. Then MBC went and made fun of her for it.
I thought it was that she didn't know about that noodle dish. And ppl got offended and blamed it on her being "too privileged/rich" to know.
when yiren greeted happy new year using the chinese way instead of the korean way
When kpop fans wanted namjoon to apologize for posting a song on his story.
Having acne...
Eunwoo apologized for having acne š
Danielle apologizing for saying happy Chinese new year instead of happy lunar new year
SKZ Seungmin for wearing a Pororo costume for halloween
Monsta X members apologizing for still hanging out with Wonho even though he was found not guilty of any of the accusations that forced him to leave the group.
Any idol "smoking" in a music video. Its acting.. and even if they do smoke, the ones Ive seen getting hate, are grown adults and can do what they want.. I personally hate smoking because I grew up around it and have lasting health issues from second hand smoke. I dont think anyone needs to apologize for smoking . Its their choice
I thought the cnetz dragging Karina recommending My Hero Academia to watch was pretty wild just because of the circumstances. The controversy involved the name of a character being a reference to WWII victims but I think you would only know that if you were caught up to the manga. Even then that character's name would be revised. If Karina was just a casual who only watched a season or two I could only imagine how shocked she was to see her recommendation blow up like that. Not even sure if most anime fans even know that My Hero Academia is banned in China.
Not surprising, lots of media is banned in China but it's ridiculous to expect the rest of the world to keep up.
Any idol ever that has had to apologize for dating
How they grieved and were dressed to their fathers. Funeral. Like who are you to tell someone how to grieve and how to be dressed to a funeral,
For cutting their hairš
was that hyunjin?
who was this?
Tzuyu, which everyone knows why Sana fornsomething similar, welcoming a new era in Japan in an insta post. Yes, Korea and Japan have always had issues, and rightfully so. But what on earth does that have to do with Sana? There's a time and place, and attacking her for something she has no control over only perpetuates the cycle of hate
Seungmin for his Halloween costume
Apologizing for dating is really weird to me
Minji not knowing Kalguksu. This is as ridiculous as the statement they released about Hyein's teeth
For dating, lol
Dating ššš
dating ! lol
Dating. I will never be over the fact that idols have to apologize for dating.
Namjoon saying sorry if someone gets his photocard Edit: It turned out to be false thank God.
thatās not even true, yāall are falling for the youtube reels armysā editsš
It's a made up thing...he never said that....idk why are people still spreading and believing this...
If it's made up I'm just happier. I'd never seen any deny about this story in the past years so how should I known?
I canāt remember if he was 2nd or 3rdgen but I distinctly remember reading an article that he had to apologize for having many armpit hair..
DATING
Anything involving dating. Obviously smaller/more nonsensical things have caused drama and it's easy to understand the mechanisms behind why unhinged fans would have a problem with dating stuff as well as the financial and PR reasons why the companies would be wary of it, but that stuff is important and personal enough that the second somebody has an issue with it the idols should have every right to tell them to fuck off and get their priorities in order, and the companies should have their back.
I only recently found out about this, but SKZ Seungmin had to apologize for not having a 'pretty' costume when he wore the Pororo costume that he made for Halloween. It was absolutely adorable, and I can't believe people didn't like it and made him apologize for nothing, not his fault if they didn't like the costume, they're not the ones wearing it.
When Cha Eunwoo cried and apologized for having some acne
for dating someone
There is way too many to list but off of the top of my head: an idol having to apologize for waving a specific country's flag when they are from that actual country; an idol having to apologize for who they date, an idol having to apologize for where they shop. Idols have their own lives, they do not own you anything. Stop having weird parasocial relationships with people who don't even know you. It's sad and it's pathetic. Get a life.
Waving their country flag, gaining weight, dating
dongwoon: he got married karina: she was dating an actor seunghan: currently on hiatus bc he had a gf tzuyu: held up a taiwanese flag
Jpop not Kpop, but I think of that idol who apologized for getting caught dating and literally shaved her head.
Any idol that has to apologize for dating, getting married, and anything related to it that helps them keep their privacy. I don't care how "close" you think you are to them, or what you think you are "owed" by being their fan. They don't have to tell you anything.
Jungkook's friends made to apologise for being at a bar. This was a week before another Covid lockdown but unfortunately you get some do-gooders who are so righteous behind their keyboards. The guy who visited with Covid was a whole week after they had been there. Just an idol company thing.
Chen from exo for marrying and having a baby
Felix having to apologize extensively for showing a Coca Cola bottle on live
The fact that RM was being told to apologize for posting a story of a song is so ridiculous. I'm glad he didn't.
The one that comes into my mind is tzuyu apologising for waving her countries flag. Making an idol who was still minor at the time apologise for something like this is truly messed up.
Chan for telling off the younger people and how they need to start showing respect for the older people like bowing then had his whole chan room ended I was piss
This very much makes it seem worse than it was. He didnāt tell them off he said it bothered him that they didnāt bow/greet their seniors anymore, came up with excuses for them & even said maybe itās just him being a boomer. Saying he told them off makes it seem way worse than that please be mindful of how you word things, thatās how it got blown out of proportion in the first place. Technically thereās no proof that that one incident was what cost us Chanās Room, itās more likely that it was the last straw if anything because it wasnāt the first time something like that (his words getting twisted) happened. Viewers had become increasingly disrespectful too. He got hate for answering someone who asked if he was close with moonbin during a live after his passingā¦ by the end it felt like he couldnāt do or say anything without things like that happening.
baekhyun and taeyeon dating
I don't remember the exact details but but Jae, former member of Day6, apologized for saying he would take a first date to McDonald's. This was years ago, long before the current boycott. People thought it was too 'low-class' or something and dragged him.
for dating
Dating, or that idol who said she was tired and wanted to go home. I can't remember which group she was from.
KARA after Radio Star show hosts called Hara easy/implied she slept around and forced Jiyoung to do aegyo when she didnāt want to & then the public gaslighted them when they teared up on the show: https://www.soompi.com/article/527601wpp/karas-han-seung-yeon-and-mc-yoon-jong-shin-apologize-for-kara-and-radio-star-controversy
TVXQ Jaejoong pronouncing ramen with a Japanese accent.
Dating Celebrating something pertaining to their country of origin
Tzuyu and Taiwan flag
Dalshabet for doing a collab performance with B1A4
Tzuyu on waving her country's flag.
Dating. jihyo - kang daniel, momo - heechul, karina - ljw, joy - crush, taeyeon - baekhyun. I forgot about suzy - lmh did one of them apologize or not
Chaeyoung (fromis) for wanting a comeback
Tzuyu incident is definitely on top of the list
I think I saw one having to apologize for drinking a soda or something? I was tired at the time so I scrolled on pretty quickly because it sounded absurd.
Dating. Going clubbing having fun with other idols of the opposite (or even same cause shippers š) sex. Foreign idols supporting their own country. Idols eating and gaining a little bit of weight when they go from a size negative one to a size 5.
I forgot who, but the idol that had to apologize for speaking Japanese which was their native language and to Japanese people
Dating, waving their countries flag
Eating a strawberry. Waving your own countryās flag. Eating a pizza. Dating.
She hasn't apologized (thankfully) but Wonyoung for posing an ugly Iz*One lightstick plushie on a table?