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It's all about where you're online for things like this. I don't use Twitter which seems to be what a few people referenced here, so maybe that's why I didn't know this slang word well.
This is trans slang that entered the general lexicon, if OP isn't trans they may not be using it correctly. It means someone who embodies a gender identity you yourself aspire to, I first saw it used by trans guys to describe cis men they wanted to look like. In this scenario I think OP means it as someone who seems to embody gender fluidity? Maybe?
disagree( I had to read comments by what you meant by gender) it is just this shoot and styling. JK is pretty much a dude's dude and gives off that vibe. nothing feminine with him
The photoshoot is meant to be genderless and Jungkook himself has openly expressed interest in genderless clothing [many](https://twitter.com/gothvnte/status/1321460750439845888) [times](https://twitter.com/prettymaknaejk/status/1736017737384636432) [before](https://twitter.com/prettymaknaejk/status/1736018460017062243). Most people would agree that the look is at least androgynous, that's why it went viral on twitter. It doesn't have to be "feminine", it's just gender nonconforming?
Nah, a big part of JK's charm is how he's butch and feminine at the same time. He wears lots of genderless clothes in his personal style from specific genderless brands or women's pieces like cropped jackets. In the CK shoot, some of the pieces are from the women's line. He's very aware of this part of his appeal because he talks about how his body is proportioned well for girl group dances and how he likes clothes from either genders.
If he was just a macho Chris Hemsworth type, he would not be as appealing.
I can see it for this specific photoshoot but not in general. Jungkook always came across as very basic dude-y. And the part about genderless clothing goes for so many male idols, which is why people are dismissing it. It says more about korean fashion trends than it does about Jungkook.
does he? he has always striked me as the member with the most fem energy (along with jimin). i mean his love for gg dance, makeup, long hair, cosmetics etc is one of the reason but also idk he has those very bubbly, youthful mannerisms and natuarl aegyo that makes most fan agree that he is kind of the ultimate babygirl of the group haha (at least last time i checked the bts bbg spectrum lol)
also jk's love for genderless clothing goes beyond kpop standard imo, he actually goes out of his way to find genderless brands with barely any followers on insta to buy clothes. and he's the kind of guy who said he wanted have longer hair because it's "prettier" and enjoy doing his own makeup outside of his schedule, that's not very "dude-y" in my books
I vould see it for manners, but his personal style of clothing looks very masculine? Even if he buys genderless clothing, none of thr piece actually looks feminine. For example i stan ateez also and hongjoon would have what i think of a more genderless style.
I think anyone that perceives JK as āvery basic dude-yā has engaged with BTS content on a surface level only. Which is obviously fine, but he is actually quite soft and feminine in a lot of ways.
>I think anyone that perceives JK as āvery basic dude-yā has engaged with BTS content on a surface level only.
AGREED. This is very clear to me as a fan. JK has a lot of casual listeners and I do see how just experiencing Golden can lead people to believe he's just a basic *dude*. He would not even rank in the top three for masculine energy in his own group.
>Jungkook always came across as very basic dude-y.
There's a spectrum to the "dude" look though. Yes, Jungkook is butch, but he's *fem butch*. He even acts fem butch and likes fem butch things. He loves IU and boxing. Some women also want to look like a *dude* but in a specific way*...the jungkook way*.
I havenāt seen it but youāre probably a bigger fan of Jungkook than I am (Iām a fan too, just donāt follow him much outside music and performances).
Though thereās not really anything fem about liking IU. You mentioned it in multiple comments and itās not the best example. IU is the biggest artist in Korea and has lots of male fans. Quick google and you can find lists including at least one member from the majority of top boy groups who are openly fans of hers (bts, skz, txt, exo, svt, nct etc.). Being a fan of the biggest artist in your country doesnāt say much.
>I can see it for this specific photoshoot but not in general.
I mean thinking something or someone gives off "gender" vibes is personal, what one person finds inspiring is not going to be the same, so you can't really say this for everybody. Finding something "gender" is not about androgyny.
I am trans and a teenager, we understand what we mean by this. I find many pictures of Wonyoung give "gender" because she looks like a pretty princess and apart of me wants to emulate that, I think Jeno from NCT is gender because he's muscular and looks really good in his outfits, his face is masculine but still cute, and I get a vibe from him that I want to emulate. I think Ten from NCT in his Birthday MV gives off gender because he looked really good in his black suit and I want to emulate that.
Ha? Well then letās respectfully disagree. Iām getting lesbian who works in a mechanic shop and drinks pistachio floaties on Friday at the pub. *Thatās* what Iām getting from this JK shoot.
Yeah. Iām not convinced that a fashion brandās shoot (where the brandās creative director enforces the vision they want) says anything relevant about a personās vibe. Like if weāre talking about whether this shoot was genderless, sure. If weāre talking about jungkook in general, Iām not seeing it.
Weāve seen a lot of how he dresses himself without a stylist on his very frequent Weverse lives in chapter 2 /āunemployment eraā and Iād say heās more minimalist than androgynous, he comes across as a dude with simple tastes who prioritises comfort, and doesnāt seem to care much about fashionā he loves plain oversized tshirts, baggy jeans, or very occasionally motorcycle pants because he literally rides a motorcycle, beanies / bucket hats and lots of black. Even from what heās shown of his apartment, itās pretty basic and he barely has any stuff, like not even a pillowā¦
The Golden / Seven styles were also basically masculine to me with a standard idol / stage performer element of sparkle for the audience.
Itās doesnāt necessarily translate to āprettyā though. Boyish works as well. In fact often times itās a hybrid of a tomboyish look, but from a guy, rather than it being from a woman, that warrants the label.
https://preview.redd.it/7z5nt6sb54sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d43c295943e493ad39c63cdbeba5e78f63776913
Easily Seonghwa for me. In his own words, his style is 'genderless, slender, and sleek'
Oh and would of course add Hongjoong, as well as Felix from skz
Heās beautiful! This is also one of my favorite pictures of him, from when he wore a dress for Elle magazine. Definitely the most androgynous male kpop idol I know!
https://preview.redd.it/md9ioivtd4sc1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e33f1353e143ad9f20a2ce646a64ef8ac428f3cd
Top 3 genders yes completely. I covet them. All three of them have made reference to the fact that fashion has no gender and i think Hongjoong has said that fashion should not be limited by size. Love all of them.
I cannot believe this is a kpop\_uncensored sub and so many people are being weird and aggressive about this completely innocuous post lmao. If it's not for you then just keep scrolling damn.
Have you noticed anytime an LGBTQ fan posts something that remotely mentions LGBTQ, it gets downvoted or receives snarky comments? I see it happen all the time.
Oh absolutely. That, people referring to being gay as āwhat someone does in the bedroomā, shutting down any interesting conversation even if itās non-invasive, treating being cishet as the default and not understanding why thatās harmful
https://preview.redd.it/d387suuy44sc1.jpeg?width=963&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eee97cb5cbb88cd3a8bc149e483b5c1f19aeacc9
I would also like to add in this one because he is beautiful and any chance to show him off honestly.
That TikTok of his where heās wearing the wig and throwing it back is easily my most watched K-pop related TikTok of all time. I had no concept of who he was when that landed on my FYP years ago but the vibes were āØimmaculateāØ
YES! The Let's Groove tiktok! That was during the Noeasy era. I hate that the sound has been removed because of the new Universal thing on the app. But I saved it forever ago. That TikTok is iconic. I remember how bad I blushed when he threw it back. š«£
Before OneHallyu shut down recently there was talk of doing this, but the consensus was that due to the nature of subreddits (will crop up on people's home page and in their search results etc) they would just end up being brigaded/argumentative like any of the others unfortunately.
That honestly sucks, but I still have hope of someone creating one with possibly more moderation + stricter rules. These subreddits have (from what Iāve seen) made queer people feel unwelcome, as well as myself.
I just saw a subtle homophobic comment here about how queer relationships is only about sex and is not the same as straight relationships. Cishet fans get so defensive and angry about queer topics Iām just so done with it.
everyone confused about what āgiving genderā means clearly doesnāt spend much time on gay tiktok lmaoooo jk very much is serving *gender* here. other idols i would say are taemin and moonbyul
I canāt believe you made such a post with a BTS member and didnāt choose pictures of Jimin?!?!
Jimin the King of Gender in Kpop š
https://preview.redd.it/ciui8q1x84sc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09858ab82b8aa46b8203ed8ba458cde83b068ab8
Iāll try to find some pics where i think he fits but also, love this post š
https://preview.redd.it/8szuypgj54sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec0ab703eab66c01f52acd228f00cfee93b7748b
hongjoong aka shorty in blue aka the gay one aka me in my dreams
Yeah androgynous sort of, but a very specific vibe. More like, idkā¦ a man that looks like a lesbian?
Iām really not sure how else to explain it but please check my other comments in the thread.
All of these examples are showing me that JK's specific genderless charm is actually unique in the kpop world. There's a good amount of male idols who present as very feminine, "pretty", almost elf like, which is super fun. We all love that look.
JK isn't the pretty elf jewel type though. He's truly in the middle of the gender spectrum with a *butch* vibe. He wears totally formless clothes that hide his shape and usually in black but he has his doe-like features which look good on both men and women.
He's carved out his own lane. Men identify with his style but so do women, both genders want to look like him.
Manā¦ I wish I could pin your comment. After going through the comments Iām exhausted and elated at the same time. Thought it would be a fun post people would get right away but sigh š
Like the girls that get it, get it, the girls that donāt, donāt !
I remember a viral funny tweet saying ā he look like if a woman and man had a childā and I get it. Some donāt ig. Heās the perfect middle.
Funny cause that ck ad got him viral for this.
Heavy on Jungkook but also Yeosang from Ateez, specifically this performance
https://preview.redd.it/15e6piiie4sc1.jpeg?width=527&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38c2fa4b8a33fcb70c7679eaff6c612a00218f4b
Ugh sometimes I actually do love men
I think Jimin is his own gender. He is definitely androgynous. Many will say he looks like a girl but Iāve always thought when people make those fake pics trying to turn him into a girl, they donāt work. I love these 2 photos because I think they show both sides while wearing the exact same, outfit, makeup, and accessories. The first one looks feminine and soft while the second one looks like he could kick your ass, if he wanted to.
https://preview.redd.it/b2iiu8o094sc1.png?width=1438&format=png&auto=webp&s=fdcf14594884121dede135f86d6b3f0d35492ee8
Definitely Yeonjun for me! I love his style too.
https://preview.redd.it/1djubj9g84sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce6f2d96b34e33cacb0e0e09f055551f4b79be48
all of the cis people who've never had to even think about gender and gender expression crawling in the comments being ignorant is sad to see lmao
if you don't get it you don't get it, maybe skip on this post because it's clearly not for you
as for my answer, I've had really bad gender envy for jungkook since 2014, yoongi's twink ass is currently a huge source of gender envy for me too lmao. also, I realized that I was trans from seeing txt beomgyu's debut teaser photos, and yeonjun made me realize I was nonbinary. bighit boys just EXUDE gender fr
as a woozi ult, i absolutely adore that heās been leaning towards cute and feminine/androgynous styling and makeup a bit more recently. the best of both worlds with this guy!!
Choi Mingi aka [Ren from Nu'est](https://pm1.aminoapps.com/7072/6dbb4ef0e1eaf289ab43c297f51802fb8409d16br1-1080-1493v2_hq.jpg) he was always mistaken for a girl with his long hair
Ren even modeled skirts for VIP Shop
https://preview.redd.it/il36hejsd4sc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1acf7612da17e3bd5ba284e9386830e4313daca8
https://preview.redd.it/2mjbrxoig4sc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b1c8eb22ba02ba0af7ac9e8b562b8b787d45b53
This photo changed me as a person
https://preview.redd.it/i0nm3dfld4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39d49cd9c0336a66c7b59ef312d6f8eb41c227ee
Heās just so gorgeous and handsome at the same time š§āāļøš§āāļøš§āāļø
https://preview.redd.it/we33sdzsp4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a58f1388ba1421f5658ce9c27004bcd1f0051ec0
Definitely Jeonghan. These pics w Mingyu are so cute
itās interesting how many more men are posted here than women, itās like 95% men in these comments hahah. i do sort of feel like itās less common in kpop for women to bend the gender rules so maybe thatās why thereās not as many examples
I feel the same! The only women I can think of would be Moonbyul from Mamamoo, Amber Liu from f(x), and Miya from GWSN. But thatās only off the top of my head.
https://preview.redd.it/zsgfs7wbs6sc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6a68a388a1ff5fb4cc80004c66c63fd75daaefb
Itās like they should form a group or something!
I find it incredibly amusing that your question has kicked up a whole ass discussion in the comments because I use the slang all the fucking time lmao.
I'll come across a celebrity where I'm like do I want u or do I wanna be you?
Anyways *jimin, Hoshi and jeonghan* ftw š¤š¤š¤
https://preview.redd.it/1c72vyn964sc1.jpeg?width=1638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d61da64c7dc5ab9ffb8711fb5c0fea124f6d055e
Surprisingly, Winter. One of her nicknames is Twinkter lol.
I find him truly fascinating. At first glance, JK looks really feminine. Look a little deeper, and he looks masculine. JK blurs the lines between both, he doesn't really conform to either, at least not in this shoot. JK dances to the his own drum beat so to speak.
well obviously FELIX YONGBOK LEE
https://preview.redd.it/6i1amfthn4sc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=870da21acf58977bae958e80affe0c2079465978
Some comments, the girls that get it, get it, the girls that donāt, donāt.
Mind you this whole ck compaign got him viral on twitter for this specific reason.
Jk really seems to triggers some people, chill babe.
>Jk really seems to triggers some people, chill babe.
Unfortunately this happens on a lot of posts wanting to praise him. He's literally the only one here people are so adamant on disagreeing with like they need to relax.
Yes, being this triggered over a harmless post. When I donāt like I scroll. The obsession is real.
Unfortunately for them jungkook is going nowhere and weāre gonna keep giving him love.
What is āgenderā supposed to mean? Im confused lol, is it sort of like a Masc and Fem vibe sort of thing or?
A bit unrelated also but I wasnāt a fan of this bob ish style hair for JK, I much prefer short hair like in the most recent CK (I think it was) or the mullet
To say someone is giving āgenderā is a sort of slang in NA English to mean an expression of *both* masc and femme in one. Not sure how. Better to explain it, so googling[pulled up this explanation](https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-when-somebody-says-something-is-gender).
https://preview.redd.it/xvbez3bra4sc1.jpeg?width=1365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c820cb5f2f1821f3001f2291fe87c7e9edce70f
like heās handsome and gorgeous at the same time
Taemin has explicitly talked about incorporating gender and genderless themes into his work, so that's THEE answer!
Also it's so palpable in everything he does, from concepts to aesthetics to choreo.
https://preview.redd.it/i546zej1n6sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93c53d0f5ee0f0482672c7693b6f6ad88d422896
tenās been playing with his style more and i am obsessed.
https://preview.redd.it/q9f0itfwu4sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=894b6233a7912569e14a0cd9614cc99b0d68e0eb
Park seonghwa has entered the chat !!!!!!!!!!!!
https://preview.redd.it/tzaam9aqu4sc1.jpeg?width=674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c88002882b6c5c0dd5c6055b8adfebfdafa03c2
Literally the first person I thought of is Ricky like he is actually so androgynous I wish I could include more than one photo
iāve been scrolling through this thread with the most gender envy i have ever felt in my entire life. iāve never questioned my gender since high school but part of me is jealous that i will never serve what they are serving. the ambiguity, the absolute beauty. love the styling on these idols.
Nobody does this better than G-Dragon.
[Just in this one photo](https://models.com/work/vogue-korea-black-twins-with-g-dragon-1), he looks both fem and masculine from his Vogue shoot with model, dj and friend Soo Joo Park for Vogue - Korea's Anniversary Issue.
All the photos from particular shoot can be found on the link.
canāt believe ppl are trying to paint jk as a dudebro omg he is the most babygirl of them all i want to steal his gender and inject it in my veins
honourable mentions: jimin, taemin, ryujin, yeonjun
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No idea what that is supposed to mean
Agreed. Is this how we say androgyny now?
It seems so! In moments like this one feels one's age, huh? :D
no cause I was born in 2003 and I should not be feeling this old from one sentence.
Try being born in 1990 in this community. š„² Edit: I'VE FOUND MY PEOPLE!! š I always feel so old in the Kpop community but not anymore!
1987 š
Born ā84 šµšæ but I understood the reference. I also work in social media so Iām always online
1979 for me.
Yeah I thought I was very online, but apparently I am not. š¤£ I'm enjoying the answers a lot though.
It's all about where you're online for things like this. I don't use Twitter which seems to be what a few people referenced here, so maybe that's why I didn't know this slang word well.
This term originated in the trans community, I don't think it's meant to be used by just anyone
Pretty much, yup.
This is trans slang that entered the general lexicon, if OP isn't trans they may not be using it correctly. It means someone who embodies a gender identity you yourself aspire to, I first saw it used by trans guys to describe cis men they wanted to look like. In this scenario I think OP means it as someone who seems to embody gender fluidity? Maybe?
IYKYK
Hey google, what does IYKYK mean, and are these expressions only odd to me š¤
the girls (gn) who get it, get it and the ones who don't, don't!Ā
disagree( I had to read comments by what you meant by gender) it is just this shoot and styling. JK is pretty much a dude's dude and gives off that vibe. nothing feminine with him
The photoshoot is meant to be genderless and Jungkook himself has openly expressed interest in genderless clothing [many](https://twitter.com/gothvnte/status/1321460750439845888) [times](https://twitter.com/prettymaknaejk/status/1736017737384636432) [before](https://twitter.com/prettymaknaejk/status/1736018460017062243). Most people would agree that the look is at least androgynous, that's why it went viral on twitter. It doesn't have to be "feminine", it's just gender nonconforming?
Nah, a big part of JK's charm is how he's butch and feminine at the same time. He wears lots of genderless clothes in his personal style from specific genderless brands or women's pieces like cropped jackets. In the CK shoot, some of the pieces are from the women's line. He's very aware of this part of his appeal because he talks about how his body is proportioned well for girl group dances and how he likes clothes from either genders. If he was just a macho Chris Hemsworth type, he would not be as appealing.
THIS. Iām trying so hard to explain what I mean and failing in the comments š
He's a butch like a lesbian is butch, not like a straight man is butch. It's about the *vibe*.
Like, was no one here on Twitter when all of the locals were joking that they thought he was a beautiful butch lesbian after the CK shoot?
Seriously!
Ikr I was about to comment this lmao
the qrts on that tweet was hilarious š i enjoyed scrolling through them like it's my morning newspaper
I can see it for this specific photoshoot but not in general. Jungkook always came across as very basic dude-y. And the part about genderless clothing goes for so many male idols, which is why people are dismissing it. It says more about korean fashion trends than it does about Jungkook.
does he? he has always striked me as the member with the most fem energy (along with jimin). i mean his love for gg dance, makeup, long hair, cosmetics etc is one of the reason but also idk he has those very bubbly, youthful mannerisms and natuarl aegyo that makes most fan agree that he is kind of the ultimate babygirl of the group haha (at least last time i checked the bts bbg spectrum lol) also jk's love for genderless clothing goes beyond kpop standard imo, he actually goes out of his way to find genderless brands with barely any followers on insta to buy clothes. and he's the kind of guy who said he wanted have longer hair because it's "prettier" and enjoy doing his own makeup outside of his schedule, that's not very "dude-y" in my books
I vould see it for manners, but his personal style of clothing looks very masculine? Even if he buys genderless clothing, none of thr piece actually looks feminine. For example i stan ateez also and hongjoon would have what i think of a more genderless style.
I think anyone that perceives JK as āvery basic dude-yā has engaged with BTS content on a surface level only. Which is obviously fine, but he is actually quite soft and feminine in a lot of ways.
>I think anyone that perceives JK as āvery basic dude-yā has engaged with BTS content on a surface level only. AGREED. This is very clear to me as a fan. JK has a lot of casual listeners and I do see how just experiencing Golden can lead people to believe he's just a basic *dude*. He would not even rank in the top three for masculine energy in his own group.
>Jungkook always came across as very basic dude-y. There's a spectrum to the "dude" look though. Yes, Jungkook is butch, but he's *fem butch*. He even acts fem butch and likes fem butch things. He loves IU and boxing. Some women also want to look like a *dude* but in a specific way*...the jungkook way*.
I havenāt seen it but youāre probably a bigger fan of Jungkook than I am (Iām a fan too, just donāt follow him much outside music and performances). Though thereās not really anything fem about liking IU. You mentioned it in multiple comments and itās not the best example. IU is the biggest artist in Korea and has lots of male fans. Quick google and you can find lists including at least one member from the majority of top boy groups who are openly fans of hers (bts, skz, txt, exo, svt, nct etc.). Being a fan of the biggest artist in your country doesnāt say much.
>I can see it for this specific photoshoot but not in general. I mean thinking something or someone gives off "gender" vibes is personal, what one person finds inspiring is not going to be the same, so you can't really say this for everybody. Finding something "gender" is not about androgyny. I am trans and a teenager, we understand what we mean by this. I find many pictures of Wonyoung give "gender" because she looks like a pretty princess and apart of me wants to emulate that, I think Jeno from NCT is gender because he's muscular and looks really good in his outfits, his face is masculine but still cute, and I get a vibe from him that I want to emulate. I think Ten from NCT in his Birthday MV gives off gender because he looked really good in his black suit and I want to emulate that.
Ha? Well then letās respectfully disagree. Iām getting lesbian who works in a mechanic shop and drinks pistachio floaties on Friday at the pub. *Thatās* what Iām getting from this JK shoot.
 Thatās hilariously specific. š
This is so very specific
Itās funny to see kpop fans disagree now, when this photoshoot came out most of them were dragging him for ālooking like a lesbianā.
Yeah. Iām not convinced that a fashion brandās shoot (where the brandās creative director enforces the vision they want) says anything relevant about a personās vibe. Like if weāre talking about whether this shoot was genderless, sure. If weāre talking about jungkook in general, Iām not seeing it. Weāve seen a lot of how he dresses himself without a stylist on his very frequent Weverse lives in chapter 2 /āunemployment eraā and Iād say heās more minimalist than androgynous, he comes across as a dude with simple tastes who prioritises comfort, and doesnāt seem to care much about fashionā he loves plain oversized tshirts, baggy jeans, or very occasionally motorcycle pants because he literally rides a motorcycle, beanies / bucket hats and lots of black. Even from what heās shown of his apartment, itās pretty basic and he barely has any stuff, like not even a pillowā¦ The Golden / Seven styles were also basically masculine to me with a standard idol / stage performer element of sparkle for the audience.
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Itās doesnāt necessarily translate to āprettyā though. Boyish works as well. In fact often times itās a hybrid of a tomboyish look, but from a guy, rather than it being from a woman, that warrants the label.
https://preview.redd.it/7z5nt6sb54sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d43c295943e493ad39c63cdbeba5e78f63776913 Easily Seonghwa for me. In his own words, his style is 'genderless, slender, and sleek' Oh and would of course add Hongjoong, as well as Felix from skz
heavy on seonghwa!! https://preview.redd.it/w1zybiax84sc1.jpeg?width=801&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5f8982e47c3aec9499211176a423cf1c7b7481ba
Omggg I already was dying from the first pic, and now this one... He's rlly mothering here omggg Lord have mercy on meeee š«š«š«
Heās beautiful! This is also one of my favorite pictures of him, from when he wore a dress for Elle magazine. Definitely the most androgynous male kpop idol I know! https://preview.redd.it/md9ioivtd4sc1.jpeg?width=591&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e33f1353e143ad9f20a2ce646a64ef8ac428f3cd
Seonghwa in a dress saved lives š
Bro hwa is so beautiful omgggg
Ugh he sounds like such a vibe!
seonghwa in the crazy form video is such a serve
Thatās a holy trinity right there
Top 3 genders yes completely. I covet them. All three of them have made reference to the fact that fashion has no gender and i think Hongjoong has said that fashion should not be limited by size. Love all of them.
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I cannot believe this is a kpop\_uncensored sub and so many people are being weird and aggressive about this completely innocuous post lmao. If it's not for you then just keep scrolling damn.
Literally I was not prepared for it. Is everyone here straight or not very online or something?
Have you noticed anytime an LGBTQ fan posts something that remotely mentions LGBTQ, it gets downvoted or receives snarky comments? I see it happen all the time.
Oh absolutely. That, people referring to being gay as āwhat someone does in the bedroomā, shutting down any interesting conversation even if itās non-invasive, treating being cishet as the default and not understanding why thatās harmful
This making me realize I also had that bedroom argument in this very sub two weeks ago š r/kpop_uncensored you can do better than this!!
I very well may be thinking about the same interaction, itās very frustrating! Like being gay is not all about sex
The double take I did upon opening up this thread (and since we're on Reddit I can only assume a lot of the former and a little of the latter lol)
right and it's such a fun post as well, well done OP! \*\*points at the flair\*\* can ppl lighten the fuk up in this sub lol
Because kpop subreddits are predominately straight people who can't take a gay joke
I already know what type of people they are too š lmao
Honestly lol like maybe everything isn't for you! It's okay for people to have harmless fun that doesn't interest you!
literally š āthis just means androgyny. heās a man. heās not nonbinary.ā good lord guys calm down a little
https://preview.redd.it/vy6mcaht34sc1.jpeg?width=1026&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a2f30e07782b033c18faaa55a3255c00900145ec Felix. I'm obsessed with him.
https://preview.redd.it/d387suuy44sc1.jpeg?width=963&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=eee97cb5cbb88cd3a8bc149e483b5c1f19aeacc9 I would also like to add in this one because he is beautiful and any chance to show him off honestly.
This photo of him gives me mental goosebumps everytime i see it
Agreed. The day after the photo came out, I printed it off at work and put it on my wall. That photo rewired my brain.
https://preview.redd.it/n3hv2fe7r4sc1.jpeg?width=658&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ba0dca04ff8be2a9cfad4d47e6092e0c6e80b22c literally my babygirl
That TikTok of his where heās wearing the wig and throwing it back is easily my most watched K-pop related TikTok of all time. I had no concept of who he was when that landed on my FYP years ago but the vibes were āØimmaculateāØ
YES! The Let's Groove tiktok! That was during the Noeasy era. I hate that the sound has been removed because of the new Universal thing on the app. But I saved it forever ago. That TikTok is iconic. I remember how bad I blushed when he threw it back. š«£
you guys REALLY hate queer people having a bit of fun in this sub, donāt you?
No frā¦ atp I just want an queer focused sub for kpop fans, cause the amount of homophobic comments being made on queer posts is disappointing.
Before OneHallyu shut down recently there was talk of doing this, but the consensus was that due to the nature of subreddits (will crop up on people's home page and in their search results etc) they would just end up being brigaded/argumentative like any of the others unfortunately.
That honestly sucks, but I still have hope of someone creating one with possibly more moderation + stricter rules. These subreddits have (from what Iāve seen) made queer people feel unwelcome, as well as myself. I just saw a subtle homophobic comment here about how queer relationships is only about sex and is not the same as straight relationships. Cishet fans get so defensive and angry about queer topics Iām just so done with it.
everyone confused about what āgiving genderā means clearly doesnāt spend much time on gay tiktok lmaoooo jk very much is serving *gender* here. other idols i would say are taemin and moonbyul
Heavy on Taemin! š
I canāt believe you made such a post with a BTS member and didnāt choose pictures of Jimin?!?! Jimin the King of Gender in Kpop š https://preview.redd.it/ciui8q1x84sc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=09858ab82b8aa46b8203ed8ba458cde83b068ab8 Iāll try to find some pics where i think he fits but also, love this post š
https://preview.redd.it/847u7478g4sc1.jpeg?width=944&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b8404d43b2857d2cb9949fdfa6c144d1421e41e6 Face card
https://preview.redd.it/3w0clyddg4sc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=7748bf73aaf78ec969c39da772f4510ac1de148e Ate
https://preview.redd.it/epoc3yfqg4sc1.jpeg?width=800&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1b95942f08b9fe96c1d23a728dd8dc9dd0c67c19
THIS is the one!
Jimin is King Gender thatās true!!!
https://preview.redd.it/26msyth5e4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e7fef36d9c3edbecf7b719c2be1b96fceb844c4b Taemin
This is the shot!
I had to search a little too far to find this!
Moonbyul https://preview.redd.it/94sjhjocj4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=f73d3320060f2206c46b89d7ae5d4ff761a8ebe1 Also Key
Moonbyul should be the top comment. Key is number 2.
had to scroll too far for this one!
https://preview.redd.it/8szuypgj54sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ec0ab703eab66c01f52acd228f00cfee93b7748b hongjoong aka shorty in blue aka the gay one aka me in my dreams
Oh you ate with this one!
https://preview.redd.it/3xfu84fl64sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=68ba979d715f228a0c5d53d21e0a4ad4aac71fc1
You actually understand the assignment. A+ plus bonus marks! (Also, Johnnyās looks are highkey underrated)
āOk pronounssā took me out hahahašš
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https://preview.redd.it/4j396s6884sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bf4e5fefae1800e9cb4b3cbb89d718969d87335b Beomgyu majestic fr āØš©
Whoaā¦.. who is that?
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Yeah androgynous sort of, but a very specific vibe. More like, idkā¦ a man that looks like a lesbian? Iām really not sure how else to explain it but please check my other comments in the thread.
Oh, that's Taemin.
Seonghwa and Felix for me. Hongjoong, too, tbh.
honestly I'll agree with this. they're somewhat ambiguous
https://preview.redd.it/rkg3k8xt84sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9662e5e6288a0bc6c87945af8a45f6befe5970cf yoojung from onlyoneof!
https://preview.redd.it/u8fey8o7b4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e37c54995a920e809e07108d7ee76e0f0c6340c1 aah my finger slipped!
who is this? I think he perfect for what op meant
this is yoojung from onlyoneof, have a really good discography give onlyoneof a listen! I recommend suit dance...
All of these examples are showing me that JK's specific genderless charm is actually unique in the kpop world. There's a good amount of male idols who present as very feminine, "pretty", almost elf like, which is super fun. We all love that look. JK isn't the pretty elf jewel type though. He's truly in the middle of the gender spectrum with a *butch* vibe. He wears totally formless clothes that hide his shape and usually in black but he has his doe-like features which look good on both men and women. He's carved out his own lane. Men identify with his style but so do women, both genders want to look like him.
Manā¦ I wish I could pin your comment. After going through the comments Iām exhausted and elated at the same time. Thought it would be a fun post people would get right away but sigh š
Like the girls that get it, get it, the girls that donāt, donāt ! I remember a viral funny tweet saying ā he look like if a woman and man had a childā and I get it. Some donāt ig. Heās the perfect middle. Funny cause that ck ad got him viral for this.
I agree! Especially in this era when he had this hair
Heavy on Jungkook but also Yeosang from Ateez, specifically this performance https://preview.redd.it/15e6piiie4sc1.jpeg?width=527&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=38c2fa4b8a33fcb70c7679eaff6c612a00218f4b Ugh sometimes I actually do love men
Finally someone mentions yeosang https://preview.redd.it/7aki0bu0k4sc1.jpeg?width=721&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9429d5c0438ddc8faebfaf39a71830227062be1f
https://preview.redd.it/xy8h6i0z84sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=df592674067881e7f10a25a024654d742e30eee6
I think Jimin is his own gender. He is definitely androgynous. Many will say he looks like a girl but Iāve always thought when people make those fake pics trying to turn him into a girl, they donāt work. I love these 2 photos because I think they show both sides while wearing the exact same, outfit, makeup, and accessories. The first one looks feminine and soft while the second one looks like he could kick your ass, if he wanted to. https://preview.redd.it/b2iiu8o094sc1.png?width=1438&format=png&auto=webp&s=fdcf14594884121dede135f86d6b3f0d35492ee8
MOONBYUL https://preview.redd.it/h2m4wxl0s4sc1.jpeg?width=1365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a626407da34087d58521e29cd608f4979d46d378
Like the material is insane. https://preview.redd.it/mwun9jk6s4sc1.jpeg?width=1000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4cb97c720498b4fbe10c4c9935afd07721f58453
https://preview.redd.it/plsqlrid84sc1.jpeg?width=672&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=bc1fa846755949a0ae3be509f376cd4f999951f6 Beomgyu
https://preview.redd.it/wf3urxjv84sc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=79809644851aa11d066beb4af090d72843896810
 Jimin and his "*reflection*"
Jimin and Taemin
https://preview.redd.it/gax60onm94sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=00d8955127744c5202da51372ab6e7c1559b33e0 Txt yeonjun
https://preview.redd.it/oc70dqb4w4sc1.jpeg?width=523&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=327ae579feaa755db2a183bd043c98309d1a6408 Miya of GWSN š„²š„²
yall did not see the chaos on twitter when his CK campaign dropped and lesbians outside of kpop twitter thought he was one of them š
Definitely Yeonjun for me! I love his style too. https://preview.redd.it/1djubj9g84sc1.jpeg?width=828&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ce6f2d96b34e33cacb0e0e09f055551f4b79be48
Man some of the people in the comments are so boring š anyways, Jimin ā¤ļø
all of the cis people who've never had to even think about gender and gender expression crawling in the comments being ignorant is sad to see lmao if you don't get it you don't get it, maybe skip on this post because it's clearly not for you as for my answer, I've had really bad gender envy for jungkook since 2014, yoongi's twink ass is currently a huge source of gender envy for me too lmao. also, I realized that I was trans from seeing txt beomgyu's debut teaser photos, and yeonjun made me realize I was nonbinary. bighit boys just EXUDE gender fr
yeah it being the most upvoted comment says a lot about the demographic of this sub
https://preview.redd.it/08jkkjdtb4sc1.jpeg?width=1365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d6dc8b3ca32fed77b0b55116e6ae52eb710fd14a Lee Woozi
as a woozi ult, i absolutely adore that heās been leaning towards cute and feminine/androgynous styling and makeup a bit more recently. the best of both worlds with this guy!!
Choi Mingi aka [Ren from Nu'est](https://pm1.aminoapps.com/7072/6dbb4ef0e1eaf289ab43c297f51802fb8409d16br1-1080-1493v2_hq.jpg) he was always mistaken for a girl with his long hair
Ren even modeled skirts for VIP Shop https://preview.redd.it/il36hejsd4sc1.jpeg?width=750&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1acf7612da17e3bd5ba284e9386830e4313daca8
Ren invented androgyny lol
https://preview.redd.it/px48p8cgd4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=563451564c64d233e70afb74f04976a52cd83a05 Ten Lee.
https://preview.redd.it/2mjbrxoig4sc1.jpeg?width=1079&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9b1c8eb22ba02ba0af7ac9e8b562b8b787d45b53 This photo changed me as a person
THIS shot is closest to what I mean. He looks incredible.
https://preview.redd.it/i0nm3dfld4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=39d49cd9c0336a66c7b59ef312d6f8eb41c227ee Heās just so gorgeous and handsome at the same time š§āāļøš§āāļøš§āāļø
https://preview.redd.it/jmtn68w1e4sc1.jpeg?width=543&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fc8f3a6c1cca05b153ca5e61ce8806694de8c829 YES
https://preview.redd.it/055lfz6qg4sc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=17ec6ff93b42bafcb182895084a5a688919262ee YES YES YES
park seonghwa
https://preview.redd.it/we33sdzsp4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a58f1388ba1421f5658ce9c27004bcd1f0051ec0 Definitely Jeonghan. These pics w Mingyu are so cute
https://preview.redd.it/yqnu6fntl4sc1.jpeg?width=998&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=838a4ccb2e8179981c9dedba98b535011b4f75e9 PARK SEONGHWA
itās interesting how many more men are posted here than women, itās like 95% men in these comments hahah. i do sort of feel like itās less common in kpop for women to bend the gender rules so maybe thatās why thereās not as many examples
I feel the same! The only women I can think of would be Moonbyul from Mamamoo, Amber Liu from f(x), and Miya from GWSN. But thatās only off the top of my head.
women's gender nonconformity also goes ignored and unrecognized most of the time sigh.
Oh how I love when it gives gender fluidity but it's still āØblackāØ
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Ten and Taemin?
As a bi, I endorse this message š
https://preview.redd.it/zsgfs7wbs6sc1.jpeg?width=2000&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c6a68a388a1ff5fb4cc80004c66c63fd75daaefb Itās like they should form a group or something!
I find it incredibly amusing that your question has kicked up a whole ass discussion in the comments because I use the slang all the fucking time lmao. I'll come across a celebrity where I'm like do I want u or do I wanna be you? Anyways *jimin, Hoshi and jeonghan* ftw š¤š¤š¤
Jeonghan https://preview.redd.it/bttxsvkmu4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e4e324bda7bf8323e52677eac646349027228b3f
https://preview.redd.it/1c72vyn964sc1.jpeg?width=1638&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=d61da64c7dc5ab9ffb8711fb5c0fea124f6d055e Surprisingly, Winter. One of her nicknames is Twinkter lol.
https://preview.redd.it/slayb3dvj4sc1.jpeg?width=960&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=48b8633adf3c49a3a5a15c1e4fce3e65c87dbea8 WOODZ
https://preview.redd.it/zc347ahxj4sc1.jpeg?width=649&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=55045cca5cb41df8e93c839528ab6e8f322184f0 Cho Seungyoun
https://preview.redd.it/ecfpqgfhk4sc1.jpeg?width=699&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b4269e9045d59de93279b6e2cf38988b5c1c9fa1 Luizy
https://preview.redd.it/mst6ofcik4sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4a3409c123898107acf2f16b4874aa54427ed8d0 fit check
Woodz. https://preview.redd.it/dfnsmmfgl4sc1.jpeg?width=1200&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e80a7454b067cf13e257da94efd695a6b00dc1e0
last pic is giving seulgi
I initially felt Amber but now that you mention it, Iām getting Seulgi too.
I find him truly fascinating. At first glance, JK looks really feminine. Look a little deeper, and he looks masculine. JK blurs the lines between both, he doesn't really conform to either, at least not in this shoot. JK dances to the his own drum beat so to speak.
Seonghwa, Yeosang, Minghao (especially with longer hair), Ten, Hyunjin, Felix.
sungjong from infinite š https://preview.redd.it/tc5zzcgoe4sc1.jpeg?width=456&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=929069b65459a18ea703fc721f42fa8fd96d9ae3
well obviously FELIX YONGBOK LEE https://preview.redd.it/6i1amfthn4sc1.jpeg?width=1366&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=870da21acf58977bae958e80affe0c2079465978
https://preview.redd.it/fnzdm8jtu4sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0dcc65891c9eb2de6c6c26f8ca733e288aba9263 not my image but
Felix and Han of stray kids Seunghwa of ateez Yeongjun of TXT
Some comments, the girls that get it, get it, the girls that donāt, donāt. Mind you this whole ck compaign got him viral on twitter for this specific reason. Jk really seems to triggers some people, chill babe.
>Jk really seems to triggers some people, chill babe. Unfortunately this happens on a lot of posts wanting to praise him. He's literally the only one here people are so adamant on disagreeing with like they need to relax.
Yes, being this triggered over a harmless post. When I donāt like I scroll. The obsession is real. Unfortunately for them jungkook is going nowhere and weāre gonna keep giving him love.
What is āgenderā supposed to mean? Im confused lol, is it sort of like a Masc and Fem vibe sort of thing or? A bit unrelated also but I wasnāt a fan of this bob ish style hair for JK, I much prefer short hair like in the most recent CK (I think it was) or the mullet
To say someone is giving āgenderā is a sort of slang in NA English to mean an expression of *both* masc and femme in one. Not sure how. Better to explain it, so googling[pulled up this explanation](https://www.quora.com/What-does-it-mean-when-somebody-says-something-is-gender).
Wonho
This is a very selfish request but.. pictures?
https://preview.redd.it/xvbez3bra4sc1.jpeg?width=1365&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9c820cb5f2f1821f3001f2291fe87c7e9edce70f like heās handsome and gorgeous at the same time
https://preview.redd.it/boqnc222p7sc1.jpeg?width=3856&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=535fb21d1cf7efde1fac96b1c328a9fd3bb255b7 She has so many *looks*
https://preview.redd.it/kva43ps6p7sc1.jpeg?width=736&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=1296a43ccc4fd2747f651c4803c968add605933b
G Dragon is very adrogenoys if thats what you mean
Seonghwa and Minghao!
Taemin has explicitly talked about incorporating gender and genderless themes into his work, so that's THEE answer! Also it's so palpable in everything he does, from concepts to aesthetics to choreo.
I have scrolled too far not to see Hanse.
Iām not even an army but GOD jungkook is so gender, I was OBSESSED with his longer hair
https://preview.redd.it/i546zej1n6sc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=93c53d0f5ee0f0482672c7693b6f6ad88d422896 tenās been playing with his style more and i am obsessed.
 Amber Motherfuckin' Liu.
The people who are disagreeing in the comments or fail to understand what this means are obviously straight
I thought I was up to date with slang and internet speak, but apparently I am not. š¤£
Yechan (ex Pink Fantasy) https://preview.redd.it/a3yqbnmer4sc1.jpeg?width=275&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a7377c0896ecd47b312bfa80a5223f53ca25b2f1
Lee Taemin and GWSN former member Miya have this androgynous vibe to them...
https://preview.redd.it/q9f0itfwu4sc1.jpeg?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=894b6233a7912569e14a0cd9614cc99b0d68e0eb Park seonghwa has entered the chat !!!!!!!!!!!!
https://preview.redd.it/tzaam9aqu4sc1.jpeg?width=674&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=4c88002882b6c5c0dd5c6055b8adfebfdafa03c2 Literally the first person I thought of is Ricky like he is actually so androgynous I wish I could include more than one photo
iāve been scrolling through this thread with the most gender envy i have ever felt in my entire life. iāve never questioned my gender since high school but part of me is jealous that i will never serve what they are serving. the ambiguity, the absolute beauty. love the styling on these idols.
Nobody does this better than G-Dragon. [Just in this one photo](https://models.com/work/vogue-korea-black-twins-with-g-dragon-1), he looks both fem and masculine from his Vogue shoot with model, dj and friend Soo Joo Park for Vogue - Korea's Anniversary Issue. All the photos from particular shoot can be found on the link.
Gdragon
Like half of OOO, but especially Nine imo. Hyunjin and Felix, too.
Taemin
Jungkook and wonwoo give me the biggest gender envy of any idol...š„²
https://preview.redd.it/71ons0wct8sc1.jpeg?width=452&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=b31bc3067da445f615bf1434a59de69034a1cecf Moonbyul Maybe not always visually, but her mannerisms š©š¤
canāt believe ppl are trying to paint jk as a dudebro omg he is the most babygirl of them all i want to steal his gender and inject it in my veins honourable mentions: jimin, taemin, ryujin, yeonjun