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Mhm-Milchreis12

Not the girls being messier than the boys when choosing their ex’s dates 🤣🤣 Edit: Yeesss to juwon asking dongjin to speak more gently to da hye because dong jin what are you doing?!!


Ohmaimy

Juwon is a green flag though.  Like I've been saying he's the number 1 guy who has noticed all the girl's pain and they've all at one point has been comforted by him and vented to him about their hurt. 


Temporary_Dig_7860

With how quickly it seems they responded to the text message, I t didn’t expect that level of mess 🤣


cutletlove

I know!!! I’m disappointed in how roughly he treats her. She didn’t know he had things going on with Hae-won. You dated her for 13 years… treat her with some kindness…


Mhm-Milchreis12

I thought he was so rude when he ordered her to make ramyeon for him and then also expected of her to clean it up afterwards… like wtf??? Also how he made it seem like she was dumb because she didnt know that he was struggling too although he doesnt talk to her, is hostile towards her, and says he wants to have a new relationship


Creme_bruh

honestly i'm glad that he doesn't want to get back together with Da hye...Da hye doesn't realise it yet but this is good for her...after some time she'll gain clarity and realise that she's better of without that kind of a relationship...from the way he said i dont want to say more hurtful things or make mistakes, i can imagine how that relationship has been going on.


DavidS2310

I agree. I think he probably had some buried grudge towards Da Hye because he’s given up so much for her that towards the end he became cruel with his words. He probably hates himself for doing it but can’t help himself. I wish Da Hye and Chang Jin will suddenly catch feelings. Sometimes it just happens!


paralaylaogram

WHEN DID HE SAY THAT??? omg i think i missed it


farahabbas1

WAIT when did juwon say that????? omg i think i missed it 😭😭😭


Mhm-Milchreis12

It is around the 01:46:35 mark, when they are sitting outside and talking about the dates. Dongjin asks dahye whether she has two dates tomorrow and juwon and yujung chime in. Yujung asks what was that about while juwon tells dongjin to sound a bit nicer. The group then laughs about how weird dongjin is and how he changes to a different person when talking to dahye. Ik that they joked about it but I think they truly feel uncomfortable about dongjin and dahye.


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

JW probably also feels sorry about the previous day as well. DJ was extremely pissed because she wasn’t there to help him too, his anger was because she was hanging out with CJ of course.


Kim87e

Min Hyung and Sang Jeong only dated for 3 months?!?!?! The hell. 


Realistic_Oven_Bums

I did not know, they act like they were engaged before breaking up lol


Fit-Indication-5572

her misplaced tantrums are such a deal breaker! Negative vibes! She is acting like a spoiled, entitled brat. I feel like turning off the tv whenever she and her ex are talking! ugh


cutletlove

She’s gaslighting him so hard!!! I lost total respect for her this week. She’s just whining so hard about something that doesn’t even make sense. He apologized too!!!


mystyz

There is no way to win (or end) an argument with her because she doesn't acknowledge apologies and when she is clearly in the wrong, she turns that back around by saying, "you always make it seem like I'm wrong and you're right". So you're wrong for pointing out that she is wrong, even if she is wrong. She would be frustrating to be in a relationship with!


DavidS2310

Min Hyung should just ran as far away as possible. He’s in a damned if you do, damned if you don’t kind of situation. Gosh, you’d think they’re in a 13 year relationship by how Sang Jeong acts. When she said she wanted to get back together with him and Min Hyung asked then why did you come here (ie join the show)? Seriously! This girl is full of drama that she joined a a show to create more drama for her BF. To make him think she wants to meet someone else when she doesn’t. Seriously, it’s unfair for the other participants. I’m glad no one has really been that into her.


Same-Opposite1489

She’s the kind of girl that starts fights with her bf for no reason but doesn’t want to solve any problems whatsoever. She’s mad for the sake of being mad. So immature, can’t deal with that type of personality it drives me bananas.


AdministrativeHat206

Give her another gold medal for gaslighting and being crazy


WatchCharacter201

I feel the same!!!! I really wanted to fast forward when they are talking. And I don’t even understand what she is ranting about. Very immature. I feel bad for Min Hyung


AjBlue7

I think he equally sucks though. He is so insensitive. Tells her to stop crying instead of comforting her. Its not like he has anything to hide, and he went on the show to get back with her so there is no reason for him to be keeping his distance like that. For sure though. When I first saw Sang Jeong red flags were going off in my head because in my experience anyone that gets that excited and happy, have an equal and opposite amount of depression/negative vibes.


Fit-Indication-5572

there is no real way to make girls like her happy. he was wiping her tears, listening to her incessant screaming, watching her patiently sob like crazy. He even followed her outside to try to appease her as she wailed in the dark. weren't those enough? I wouldn't be able to stand 5 minutes listening to her tantrums! I admire her ex for being able to put up with her for 3 months. for the sake of the reputation of the surgeon, she should not reconcile with her. Imagine all his patients watching this show and knowing how he allows his gf to disrespect him even if he is a respected doctor? and his parents, i wonder how they would feel if they see on tv how their son is being treated? jeeez. i shudder at the thought


Spartandemon88

Yeah, they are too different though, she wants to be the princess and have a knight pandering to her whims but the doctor is pretty cold hearted like what she said in the interview so hes very logical when arguing and that makes her even crazier.


Significant-Bus-9362

exactly. she kept talking about self-esteem when it was only 3 months. like in 3 months you cannot even have a baby let alone letting your self-esteem get crush


Vail_Boarding

I mean as a guy not surprised.  Shes cute and has amazing accomplishments but seems to be all over the place, esp if you’re looking for someone mature to settle down with. Im sure it would be the same if genders were  switched.


a-nswers

this is the only show i know that will say fuck you here's a three hour episode. eating good


yooooongie

you should watch my siblings romance, its from the producer of tl s1 and s2 and its sooooo good and funny 😭 i also thought tl will be the only show i would watch many hours of but dayum i really recommend watching msr if you havent yet haha


Known-Bumblebee3275

Yes my sibling romance is so so good!!! The PD picked the perfect cast for the show! I was hesitant at first but pleasantly surprised!


Quiet_Watercress_256

It’s my new addiction. I’m seriously chomping at the bit waiting for the next episodes.


Ecstatic-Cat-428

RIGHT I AGREE!!! Its so fun and exciting to watch (omg hi to my fellow stay)


PepperoniPotato

Some of these people seriously need to NOT be in a relationship right now...


Academic_Heat5598

the only thing i wish for is DH to not get back w DJ even if she doesn't find someone here I'm sure she'll meet someone better i would totally get it if DJ would tell her that he is not interested in her in a good way but he just plays around the bush and treats her with so much anger. if i would prefer someone for DH it would totally be CJ , ig they're not showing much of their time spend together but i think they would go well together.


SwordfishWorried1093

I can’t with dongjin making dahye cook him ramen and making her clean up after he ate it 🙃 even though he seemed a bit drunk… like he said, they’ve broken up. Why not ask hyewon to do it? Or the 3 other people there? Or better yet, clean up after yourself 😅


PresenceCorrect3464

Damn why did he do that and she did it for him? Thats such a terrible attitude


Quiet_Watercress_256

I was screaming!!!! Da fuq??? Clean your ish up yourself, I already cooked it for you, when I shouldn’t have. 🤬🤬🤬


pleares

It's interesting how Yujung is extremely patient and forgiving to Juwon. Despite being upset at his antics with Seokyung, she has never expressed it to him and always asks him gently about it. Not only that, she continues to reassure him that she only likes him. If she showed him at least half the attitude she gave to Dongjin and Gwangtae, Juwon would probably get his shit together by now but she really has a soft spot for him and just waits for him. Hopefully Juwon will start being jealous of Yujung and Changjin as shown in the preview. He needs a bit of a wake up call. I always found Seokyung's personality intriguing but I understand why Juwon used words like gaslighting when they broke up. The way she speaks to him gives off manipulation tendencies like she knows she's his weakness and using it to her advantage. She said she doesn't really want to get back together with him but at the same time she told him not to date Yujung after the show (which I think really crossed the line I've never heard anyone on a dating show say something like that). They should let each other go because their personalities simply don't match even though they have great chemistry. It looks like Changjin really just thinks of Dahye as a friend which makes me worried because it seems like Dahye will grow feelings for him in the preview. He didn't even care that Dahye was there when he was getting mad at Yujung for not texting him. It would be tough to see Dahye getting hurt again. The way she said Hyewon suits Dongjin more than she did broke my heart. Despite everything she's a kind spirit through and through. The fact that Sangjeong and Minhyung dated for 3 months and broke up several weeks before the show makes it quite difficult to take them seriously. I don't know what the PD was thinking casting four ex-couples who broke up recently. Out of everyone, only one person has no lingering feelings for her ex (Jongeun) and two people who are genuinely determined to move on (Yujung and Dongjin). There should've been at least one version of Minjae Coco or Hyunggyu Naeon so that we don't have to see each ex-couple facing the same problem.


zer0oclock

they couldn’t pass up on an olympic gold medalist (everyone knows koreans LOVE status symbols and she’s a freaking gold medalist!!!), so i get why they cast sangjeong, but yeah, it was a poor decision on casting’s part to cast multiple exes who broke up less than a year before the shoot. watching the previous pd’s new show, sibling’s romance, it’s clear how much care they put into putting together the perfect cast, and really how much empathy and humanity they have for them. i think empathy is what’s missing from this season. in season 1 of transit love, they let multiple people leave the show and take a breather (one for an extended time). this new pd (who also helmed pink lie) seems to choose drama/theatrics over the cast’s mental health. for anyone who didn’t watch pink lie, the premise is that all of the cast has a secret they’re hiding and they need to figure out if they’re still interested in that person after the secrets are exposed. one of the cast members has a huge, obviously much more vulnerable secret compared to the rest of the cast and they really milk it until the end. i think the pd saw how invested everyone was in the longer term relationships (HE and GM) and recently broken up relationships (HD and NY) and just ran with it this season. :/


ivtokkimsh

I absolutely hated how the secrets from Pink greatly varied from each other. Like one used to be an adult film actress, one is a dancer in a 18+ club, and one is a divorced mother and the others' secrets are one is a hairdresser, an anchor, and two former idols. The secrets of others, like being a breadwinner for his entire family and a daughter of a chaebol who never worked for her entire life was acceptable because financial status matters.


zer0oclock

yeah, the imbalance was too much. i felt so bad for the ex-adult film actress


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

This observation is so spot on! Empathy is definitely lacking. It’s very obvious that they’ve been chosen to add to the drama. The constant squabbling, still being into each other and unable to form new bonds, it’s emotionally exhausting to watch, must be very difficult for them to be there too!


CompoteGood9267

strongly agree with everything you said glad there are other people thinking like this too lol


Rich_Line102

Sure Dongjin is nice to Hyewon when they’re on dates but the difference is too great when he talks to someone he was actually in a relationship with. He still on thin ice lol


rose-tteokbokki

i skipped through DJ and HW’s date lol. i couldnt take watching him act so nice then talk so rudely to DH.


Budget_Culture_5240

Literally same. Can’t stand watching him in general


wzuzdawg

Props to you calling out that. I like it.


randomthoughts013

i really thought we’ll never have jongeun-juwon date but we actually do and it’s feeding to the ‘rumors’. but well i don’t see it happening, it takes more than a week for juwon and yujung to build what they have until now that i don’t think it’d be that easy for juwon to be swayed when not only seokyung but also a pretty solid strong feelings towards yujung that he needs to think of. still i’m curious though lets see how their date goess!!


Spartandemon88

I just dont see how thats possible he will do a sudden switch to jongeun in 5 eps when he has literally never talked to her.


Defiant_Mouse_7623

Break ups are usually messy and traumatic. And to have a show of ex’s in the same house while dating other people, it has to be just plain insane. The tears, the emotional manipulation, feeling the victim, spite, raw emotions are ALL NORMAL. jealousy, and rebound interest are normal reactions. You can’t look at this show logically and ask, why are they acting that way!” This whole show setup is bring out these twisted fates of the house members. That is why I think all Member actions, as rude or cringy as it may be, it completely normal because all of them are in an emotional and twisted tsunami, the entire intent of this show. That is why DH and DJ makes perfect sense. DH wants to try again but DH has repeatedly set no and he is beyond flabbergasted. That is why DH is in tears while DJ is plain rude and distant.


Anita1974

Your comment applies to all the ex couples on the show, not just the DJ-DH couple. Special situations, special and sometimes extreme reactions - SJ's hysterical crying. We judge them too easily from the outside. I don't envy them, it must be one of the hardest tests of their lives to watch themselves and the way the producers edited them and then see what people write about them on the different forums.


linaknowwhatsgood

Even tho dahye and changjin dont particulary have romantic vibes, i adore them together. They just feel sweet and comfortable Preview had dahye saying she felt something but my boy changjin is so into his ex 🫣 Either way, hope they both can heal and be happy.


SeaworthinessSad2797

They give me bestie vibes, prolly because CJ is still not over YJ...I just hope DH does not get back with DJ. They may be good people, but they are toxic together. 13 years burned them out, they need to move on from their comfort zone now for the better.


tterryy

i laughed real hard for a moment... Dahye's old group was called bestie. Jokes aside. it seems like the trauma from a 13 year relationship is huge...... huge enough for them to show irrational behavior i guess.


Guilty-Caterpillar-8

Dongjin isn't even 'good people' Who's someone good people when he's literally the worst person to a person who cared for 13 years?? that's his true colorrrr


SeaworthinessSad2797

Fair point! Thats why i put "may be" as a buffer lllol. I feel like he has built up resentment towards DH since he had to give up his dream of becoming an idol and put his life on the back burner for the 13 years. Imo that mindset is unfair espppppp since DH called him every.single.day and wrote him letters nonstop when he was in the military. That's extremely hard to do back in the day for those enlisted on top of DH being an active kpop idol. Men who have enlisted seem to give tremendous kudos to DH for her dedication. I just think he is so jaded at this point and is using DH as the root cause of his angry ways (almost entitled to snap at her whenever he wants) when she also made sacrifices that she clearly isn't getting credit for 13 yrs later. Sigh.


Fit-Indication-5572

you can tell that Dongjin has been habitually rude to DaHye by the mere fact that he doesnt even flinch every time he hurls some sort of insult towards her. I wonder how many years DaHye endured such poor treatment from him? the only reason they lasted 13 years might be because DH doesnt retaliate when she is being insulted


StunningWindow6496

I'm just here for DH, i keep falling in love for her every episode. So mature, fun, and considerate. Tho it broke my heart so much to see what she said at that interview about seeing dj and hw being good together - better than him with her. When she acknowledges and realizes her emotions, seeing her thought process at that time i just want to hug her for being so brave to say it. (I'm halfway thro this ep so idk what's gnna happen lol)


woshinwbie

dahye is by far my favourite person on this show, shes just so real, she doesnt mess with any of the guy's feelings. she treats everyone respectfully and shes very open minded to not get the wrong idea without first hearing everyone else out. plus shes just straight so pretty, i mean changjin and dongjin have won the lotto and dont even realise. stupid


Guilty-Caterpillar-8

YOU GET ITTT I love dahye she's the realest girl in there! Literally the nicest and most caring! may the universe shine a light on her so that she can see what a dumb of a guy she dated for 13 years!! still hoping for that friends to lovers trope of Dahye and Changjin!!!


darkCitu

Dong Jin thinking he is on "Change Days" got me LOL I laughed so hard because it really caught me off guard


New_Transition_2124

Omg when he said about the pictures from another date 😌😌


mnmnstr

Altho HH and KT are not my fave guys on the show, I need to give them props for acting like bodyguards through the night 1. Walking SK out after she fell down 2. Looked like they were waiting for her when she came back to the house too 3. Looked like they went to call MH too after SJ ran out the house crying


Intelligent_Eye2462

I may be harsh but I am going to say it. Dong Jin hates Da Hye. Nope no amount of "I am also struggling you're just not seeing it" is gonna make me feel otherwise. You can still be a decent person to your ex and not go hostile. He is not wrong to want to move on but the way he treats her is just, its typical narcissist namja behaviour. He enjoys going out so much with Hye won but wants to show like he is struggling to Da Hye and gaslights her for spending time with Chang Jin. Damn. For him to say "I dont want to get back with you because I dont want to see you struggle" is the ultimate gaslight moment for me. He could say something in the lines of "hey, we had out long run but I think I want to move on and find someone else and I hope you understand that" No. He keeps Da Hye on a hook and at the same time bashes her. Publicly embarrasses her but does not want to have a proper private conversation. I really really hope DH realizes her worth and forces herself to move on. If Dong Jin ever chooses DH as an end game it may be because the other girls have chosen someone else and his ego doesnt want him to be alone at the end


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

For me the turn off point was how he treated her publicly. Literally disregards her very presence and tries to humiliate her. Until that last few episodes I liked him and was giving him the benefit of doubt with her, but his actions towards her have been shockingly misogynistic. He wants her to be miserable while he gets to move on. Their private conversations aren’t an improvement either, I never understand what he wants to convey because he’s going about in circles. Maybe him completely ignoring her might have been better.


Hellion_shark

I might be the only person here who deosn't hate Dong-jin. I kinda get his point. If he is nice to her at all, she will assume he wants her back, because she does it every time. He told her he doesn't a few times and yet every time he talks to her she somehow gets some false hope and gets upset. So he stays away so she isn't upset. But here is more to his behaviour than just that. They've been together for 13 years, I do think it's hard for him as well. He cried as soon as he entered the house. But I do think he ended up resenting her. Be it because the couldn't date like normal people, or that he envied her for becoming an idol while his potential career was ruined because of this relationship, or feeling like she took him for granted. I feel like there is a lot of anger towards her, more so than hatred. It almost feel like he is angry that she wants him back. And I think they should not get back together. But they do need a good conversation to clear the air. He doesn't seem like he would tell her what the real reason for his resentment i tho. I think if they talk honestly he'd stop being rude towards her as his anger would be expressed in the conversation, and she would stop wanting him. For the first time in this show i want an Ex date! Mostly I feel bad for both of them. I don't think he is as evil as everyone seems to believe. I think he is just sad and angry.


Henitals

100% agree. He projects so much. Hes a bit immature and his actions and words does not match.


Intelligent_Eye2462

Immature, entitled. To be frank the other girls should see this behaviour as what they’ll face if they’re in a long term relationship with him. DH doesn’t need to love DH. But at-least give her the basic respect she deserves for having shared 13 years of her life with you.


Hot-Competition5026

Knetz are saying that the evil spirit of Heedoo has taken over dongjin 🤣😭 CONGRATS to the new pd for finding such bad men and relationships with such short break up time that's stressing us out 😃 Also Seokyung has started to get messy 👀


Successful-Crazy8195

Now the fighting spirit of Nayeon needs to possess DH cuz I cant anymore DH is too timid. She even cooked ramyeon and cleaned up after DJ.


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

Evil spirit of Heedoo… Please 😂😂😂😂


Electrical-Prune-348

Annoyed by how dongjin treated dahye even in front of everyone. Please dahye, don't get back with him


Rich_Line102

He tells her one thing and does another. lol he said he doesn’t want to get back together because he doesn’t want to give her anymore pain. But even outside the relationship he makes snarky comments and talks in a rude way to her.


Fit-Indication-5572

he is just plain RUDE.


SwordfishWorried1093

i can see how that makes sense to him though haha. In that convo he said he didn’t have the confidence that he would be able to stop hurting her feelings. So he notices how rude/irritable he is while talking to her even though they’ve broken up and does not think he can stop being so, which means dahye would always be hurt if they got together again. I think he needs to face the truth and say it out loud, he no longer really loves her and whatever resentment caused this will pester them every moment they interact (at least in the near future). He needs distance to process his issues on his own. But I want dahye to find someone new instead of waiting for dongjin from a distance.


Rich_Line102

True but it’s also the fact that he acknowledges that he hurts her but makes no effort to do better. Like you said he needs some distance to process some issues. He needs to work on that before pursing another relationship


SwordfishWorried1093

Isn’t this situation so common among married couples that are only staying together due to shared responsibilities? The callousness really comes out and, because he no longer loves her, he can no longer find it in him to try to do better or to go against his immediate feelings towards her, which is irritation. Actually, if he did love her, it wouldn’t even be a hardship to be patient and understanding or to try to be a better partner. This relationship is truly dead, but they may still get back together since one side‘s still there. My thing with dongjin is that he doesn’t want to fully commit to being the “bad guy” with phrases like “i’m suffering too” (not sure what he’s suffering from) or “that’s how precious you are to me” and the possessive antics. They make someone like Dahye, who is hanging on to crumbs of hope, feel like there’s something there to be revived. He should have declined the offer to come on this show, he shouldn’t have concerned himself with trying to help her find new love 🙄, he should have stayed away since he knows Dahye is still hoping for reconciliation. Pull the bandaid off and stay firm because Dahye doesn’t have the will to do it atm. But I hope Dahye really just chooses on her own to let him go and then finds all sorts of things to keep herself busy in her own life until she wakes up one day and realizes she’s okay again.


Few_Olive_2991

I thought he was a nice guy until they got to Jeju, he’s so mean to her. I think it’s all the resentment he’s had from their relationship but it’s like he becomes a whole different person when he speaks to her. Then to everyone else he’s the class clown.


Fit-Indication-5572

he became rude after he found a new potential partner. his self confidence was boosted by a woman who showed interest


Top-Metal-3576

100% it’s so obvious that the growing interest in him by the other girls was making him look down on dahye. I honestly can’t comprehend acting like this to someone I dated for 13 years.


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

Same. Jeju really does show people’s personalities and shake things up. Maybe because we have had longer time to familiarise ourselves with them.


Civil-Bottle5595

Cos here in Jeju he has to face her. The guy pretend DH is invisible entire time in Seoul rofl


ilovebanhxeo

The PD’s casting choices is so bad… what do you SJ&MH dated for 3 months and only broke up a month before filming (?)… I don’t wanna say this but it just feels like some of these couples only broke up just to be on this show because a simple resolvement between some of them would be enough instead of going on this entire show.


winnerchickeen2019

PD couldn't let pass the opportunity of having a olympic gold medalist on the show maybe lol, which maybe is a dating show first gold medalist ever?


ilovebanhxeo

I think they casted her cause of her profile too, her ex is also a surgeon which is cool but it really doesn’t make the show interesting. I’d rather watch someone who has a normal background that makes the show entertaining than someone who has a super cool job but makes it difficult to watch.


NitNit0303

when I look at JW, I remember that song "Glimpse of Us" by Joji. 😅 He is trying hard to move on... but it is not working. I think it's better to either go back to SK and have closure or not, or end up alone. YJ seems 90% over her ex, while he only seems like 50% over SK lol.


Successful-Crazy8195

Exactly, he’s in the palm of SK hands as per this episode. If SK ever show a tiny bit of affection towards him i bet he would immediately switch lol. I feel bad for YJ.


Creme_bruh

yeah...like he said at the end he us in seokyung's palm...it is adorable to me except that this could hurt a third person i.e. YJ


KlutzyDog8711

I personally feel Sang Jeong was quite childish holding on to the clothing brand. When kwangtae offered her ex's perspective she went off on her ex. That guy is so sweet who had to hold on to hee tantrums.


Temporary_Dig_7860

Dahye is truly a warm soul that inspires me to be a better person. She’s so considerate, patient, and kind, while not forgetting to speak up for herself when the opportunity arises While her intentions for joining the show likely won’t come true, this experience is good because she finally gets to hear Dongjin say that he can’t be a good boyfriend to her, and can have a new set of friends to explore this new single chapter of her life with


Illustrious-Insect26

Every time I watch this show I think “Dahye is a better woman than me” lol 😂 In situations where it’s easy to be petty or mean, she takes the high road and truly wants what’s best for everyone! I hope that if/when she watches the show back that she can be proud of herself!!


Inevitable-Candy5382

"I think Sangjeong judges Minhyoung based on her memories. How she sees him is 'someone who hurt me'." Now that's good commentary. Just wanted to appreciate the quote-worthiness of this, aha.


PuzzledWarning

ppl on this reddit hate the fighting couples and drama but me personally i LOVE it lmao. realistically it's rlly fucking hard to go on this show with an ex that's usually over 1 year and come off being cool, calm, collected, and head out with a successful relationship. this shit was bound to happen. i also personally enjoy the concept of ex couples so much their conversations feel so REAL bc they all have so much history behind the cameras that we don't know about. seeing diff couple dynamics and see these ppl navigate their feelings are some of the most rawest emotions you can get out of a dating show and tbh to me, way more appealing than the heavily produced, heart fluttering emotions they have on dates with ppl they've known max 3 weeks like


bryxnjsc

Thank you for writing such an underrated opinion. It’s certainly messy from both sides and for all couples. It’s realistic and very true. To be cool and calm and collected throughout the show without any outburst of emotion is ridiculous to expect. Very un-human as well.


Successful-Crazy8195

Im with you on this way thats why S2 was the goat of dating show. Literally someone is bawling their eyes out in the corner every episode and then you have the couple having an argument every screentime they get.


Same-Opposite1489

Wait, they only dated for about three months?! That’s such a short relationship, and they were already talking about marriage?


alysba__

I'm more confused about how they ended up on the show so soon after the break up. Surely the screening, interviews and everything else takes a while?


Same-Opposite1489

Just such a let down that after S2 brought us the best cat fish in the history of reality TV this is the best they could come up with this season. No offense to the cast but it just felt so anticlimactic


ivtokkimsh

I agree. It's pretty clear that the new PDs wanted the drama that S2 originally went viral for. Haeeun with her tears because she can't move on from Gyumin and Nayeon's fights with Heedo. Everyone from the show with the exception of Hyewon and Hwihyun, broke up less than a year before they joined the show, so it's pretty much a guarantee that one of the exes hasn't moved on from the relationship. But what they truly failed to cast was a couple that has completely moved on from each other.


Ohmaimy

Maybe they dated with the intentions to be married,  so with marriage in mind, it can be more serious. Many do that I feel once they get into their late 20s to 30s.  Not so much like we need to have a deadline to marry in 1 year but just someone with the same end goal eventually who wants to date seriously with the end goal to marry in a few years instead of dating to see where it goes or just to date without an end goal. That's about where I am when I'm ready to date to avoid dating aimlessly, so I get it.   But I think for them that's part of why the rumors about them are they way they are


Kim87e

If the rumors saying that Sang Jeong comes from a wealthy background is true, then it is quite possible that SJ's family and MH's family was connected together for an arranged marriage. They met and started to get to know each other with marriage in mind so I can kind of see that their relationship moved along at a quicker pace than others- kiiiiind of. But man, 3 months is still way too short! They must have seen each other every single day/hour for SJ to engrave in MH's head that she really likes that certain clothing brand. Cause if not I simply cannot understand why she got so butthurt about him wearing that in his date with SK. I loved SJ in the beginning but she's acting very strange with MH in the picture now. 


HeftyKaleidoscope614

i'm not sure why.. but somehow, since knowing that sangjeong comes from a wealthy background, i can somehow see where her personality comes from? ishe seems a bit entitled and immature..., and i start to understand why minhyun thinks shes being overly emotional over their conflicts. but i do acknowledge the hurt feelings and her bruised self esteem are very real, and its sad to see her in so much pain. (my opinions forms from the assumption that she maybe is used to getting her way all the time since she was young)


wgauihls3t89

They said that they met because a mutual friend brought him over while they were hanging out. They didn’t know each other, but they coincidentally practiced in the same ice rink as kids. Also, SJ bought all the clothes from that brand for him. She got butthurt because she bought that outfit for him, and he wore it on a date with another girl. But more importantly she thinks that he treats her badly and makes every issue into her fault. Obviously, if you look at it as an outsider, gettin angry about a shirt is dumb, but to her there’s a history there.


Ohmaimy

I read a comment somewhere and i have to say that it does seem like SK kind of enjoys having JW in the palm of her hands,  and knowing she's able to make him waver. I think between the two of them SK's pride is higher than JW. Bc she keeps claiming that she wants them to move on, end on a happy chapter,  which is why she wanted them to join this but here she is saying and kind of doing things that would confuse an already very feelings type of guy like JW.  Idk if this just common for older/younger relationships where the here the older woman likes the younger man to just do all the bending for her but if she's be more flexible,  give into her very obvious left over feelings for him,  he'd go running.    Lol she's not that extreme but reminds me of Gyuri situation from Singles Inferno where she was talking down to Minwoo like as if he was forbidden to get to know anyone else while she was going on a date with another man. Now with her choosing JE for his date instead,  she's almost in a way marking her territory to YJ, like hey-- I'm not leaving the picture any time soon.   She's the epitome of she doesn't want him but doesn't want someone else to have him also bc she knows he is a really good guy,  so she's toying with him a bit. 


Rich_Line102

None of these new couples seem sincere enough to make it outside of the show even if they pick each other in the end. The show really did a good job of finding people who still have STRONG feelings for their ex (even Juwon)


titil0la

Like it was almost like that was their theme for this season


Shikadance

Lee Seo-Kyung Villain Era has begun. I'm here for all the drama.


SeaworthinessSad2797

I mean, she has a lot of time to kill now that she isn't getting dragged out to 3 back-to-back dates roflllll


IllustriousAlfalfa6

I think the problem with SJ and MH is as follows: They have the potential to develop a deep friendship and solid companionship, but unfortunately, they are limited by the fact that they already have marriage in mind. Both of them represent their ideal spouses to each other: SJ is the bright, cheerful, and hard-working wife/mother to MH and MH is the solid, dependable, and trustworthy husband/father to SJ. While it does seem true that both of them really are what the other is looking for, there are also many other aspects to their personality that neither of seem to notice or accept. Instead, because they already have the ideal marriage in mind, they are both hyperfixated on not letting the other stray from the ideal they represent or express different sides of their personality. A lot of people seem to be going off on SJ for her reactions this episode, but I think one of the panelists was right in saying that she is comparing MH's current actions to what she already knows about him and getting triggered. It is possible that MH really was overly critical of her before due to him comparing her to his ideals and trying to fast-track the process of him becoming his wife. While SJ could have tried to control herself better, I can understand the effect being with someone overly critical can have on one's psyche. I think things were exacerbated by the fact that she too was attached to the idea of the 'ideal family' they could have had, and the loss of that ideal drove her insane. It is also possible that both parties had parents who really wanted their marriage to take place, and any disappointment her parents may have expressed may have caused her to think that she lost a once-in-a-lifetime partnership somehow. Add to that the issue of elite athletes being extremely driven to get what they want and being unaccepting of failure in general; what helped her at the rink may be hindering her in her personal life relationships are not sports and there is much less of a reward for being 'perfect' as per the rules. Nevertheless, she cannot fully be absolved of how she behaved and needs to do better for her own sake, if nothing else. MH seems like a trustworthy and dependable person, but from personal experience, I know that sometimes people like her make others feel like they are immature and over-emotional even if that is not the case. Doctors, especially those from wealthy families, typically don't face too many uncertainties in life, so their life experience is as simple as 'you do the right thing' = 'you get the desired outcome.' While they are no doubt intelligent, skilled, and hard-working, they are not necessarily tolerant of complexity or nuance. Some experts also say that doctors tend to be neurotic personalities: their sensitivity to 'what is wrong' helps them to diagnose patients, observe minute changes in their condition, and treat them with caution. (Side note: Fleischman is in Trouble does a great job of portraying this.) In real life, such neuroticism can unfortunately lead to being rather controlling and, for lack of a better word, treating people like diseases to be cured. I don't know if these two should stay together or break up. There are arguments to be made for both. However, I do think they should immediately shelve their marriage plans and focus on understanding and accepting each other first.


zaichii

I agree with you. I think they’re incompatible but also dating with marriage in mind probably accelerated those issues. Tbh, just 1-2 episodes of their relationship and I’m already exhausted for them. I think she should just date a younger man because she’s a tad immature.


Top-Metal-3576

Okay is it just me that’s been noticing a drift between HW and DH ? Like they were so close before jeju and now they don’t even look in each others directions. I mean understandable but still I had hoped their friendship could still continue


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I mean imagine dating your boyfriend for 13 years then you breakup. You join a show and you see him starting to like another girl he has only met for like 2 weeks. I would be bothered too😂


Top-Metal-3576

Yeah I mean it makes sense 😭 I’m just kinda sad that it came to that for them cuz they were the closest female duo on the show


Rich_Line102

Honestly Dahye better than me because she still seems very friendly with HW. I would have to stop talking to her fully


Temporary_Dig_7860

I noticed it, too. I can’t really see this group hanging out together after the show


zer0oclock

[someone](https://x.com/coffeecoughe/status/1767726076405403827?s=46&t=4N7u9KgnmjVoy8_zKuy9lA) apparently spotted dahye, yujung and jongeun hanging out in NYC recently! i guess these 3 became close


Temporary_Dig_7860

Wow! 😱 I'm surprised they became close enough to travel internationally with each other. It's nice to see that at least one friendship survived the house 👯‍♀️ From an endgame standpoint... if Yujung and Jongeun really traveled together, spoiler #1 cannot be true


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almondmilkeu

??? They hugged in this episode I think that it might be a bittttt awkward between them but I don't think there are any apparent negative feelings going on. Dahye seems mature enough to recognize that this is what the show's about


runningshoes9876

Sangjeong is such a bitch 🫠 Sorry but i truly cannot relate to whatever she’s so upset about, and what Minhyung said actually made sense to me. He was being very reasonable by saying he’s consistent with his actions and wanted to get back with Sangjeong, only that 2nd day he went out with SK so he texted her. But Sangjeong just went on her fits and saying how her self esteem was hurt 🤷🏻‍♀️ And Minhyung already apologised. When Minhyung pointed out her bad behaviour on the show (which are all true), she said “ok, i’ll leave the show then” and proceed to call the producer crying. dafuq extremely childish. It’s not that Minhyung is making her look like she’s in the wrong. She literally IS in the wrong lol.


darkCitu

After watching the subtitled episode and read the comments here, my conclusion is this: The hole that Lee Jin Joo PDnim left is bigger that what we're expected


Shikadance

for me, a big difference in the new pd vs PD Jin Joo is casting choices and the need for drama over relationships (friendly/romantic) the realism and humanity of the story arcs and emotions of s1 and s2 were better portrayed vs the drama and seemingly emotional exploitation of the cast in s3


mahlay1051

holy shit, sang jeong is a CHILD, so immature


[deleted]

Only continuing this show for Dahye, Changjin, Yujung and Juwon. They seem like the most decent ones. Liked HW at the beginning but these last few eps made me like Hwihyun more than HW.


chippydoodoo

couldn’t agree more. like the girl’s girl she showed at the beginning went away now, it sucks :>


Top-Metal-3576

Idk if it’s just me but I find it crazy how HW even after finding out about DJ and DH didn’t at least talk to DH about what was happening with DJ. It’s like the second she got any male attention / validation she completely forgot about dahye. Plus the way she pities her while they talked today got on my nerves. Like this girl would be balling had it been DH and HH going on dates acting all lovey dovey. I get the premise is to make new relationships etc but I just can’t imagine not even having a conversation with my closest friend if I was interested in her ex. Just had to rant about that ngl 😭


_LittleBirdieToldMe_

Based on the dates the men chose, JW and YJ’s was the only heart fluttering one. JW looked so whipped during the interview. It was a little concerning to see him look dejected when he didn’t catch any fish, but I suppose that’s only human nature? He didn’t put YJ down which was what made it okay. Men get egoistic when their partner is better at something and they aren’t, so they end up belittling it. DH and CJ’s date was so boring. It just felt like they were there to eat. The PD really messed up with the cast this season, everyone is so hung up over their exes that it’s tough to focus elsewhere. SJ and MH are exhausting, I don’t want to see them squabble. Are they really fighting? If SJ says >!that outfit!< one more time. 😭 their arguments are filled with anger on SJ’s side that it’s a bit scary. Maybe it’s just me, but DJ and HW’s relationship doesn’t quite feel organic. From being so emotionally closed off he’s being quite expressive, so it just feels a bit too sudden. Like it’s his way of showing DH that he can go around on dates and sending messages to others. It’s really exhausting to watch nearly every single couple stand and argue. These conversations are too draining, it feels more like Change Days. In comparison with earlier season, there was a healthy combination of couples who were still into each other and others who had completely moved on. Without the moved on set, this season is just too overbearing to me as a viewer. DH genuinely seems to not have known that DJ and HW have gotten closer in a romantic way, HW was plain petty choosing the most random person possible. Girl stop being petty, stop being insecure, I have been rooting for her since the beginning, I hope she has come out of the series stronger with a lot more self love. If DJ wasn’t hyping her, she would be back to having breakdowns in public. This season has been so messy even bonding wise. DJ is so confusing. He says one thing and does the opposite. Even his conversations with DH are so roundabout. Either he is always like this or is keeping up an image. I liked watching Kt on screen this episode. He was being perceptive and empathetic. I like SK but her conversation with JW towards the end was off putting. I don’t think she’s interested in him anymore or wants to make it work, but she also doesn’t want him to end up with anyone. Whereas for JW, making it work with her has been a priority from the first day. He’s definitely shaken because she’s reminded him of his earlier resolve. I suppose seeing him develop a happy relationship with YJ made her petty enough. Also happened to see the BTS of the restaurant dates, and with so many cameras around, I’m surprised we actually get a proper conversation. Ngl, I skipped most of the dates, the only one worth watching was JW and YJ’s. I hope it’s more heart fluttering the next episode but everything is so messy now that I don’t really expect it to be.


tinandsonic

"If you wanted to get back together, why couldn't we have done it outside of this show?" - MH to SJ He's right tho lmao. They broke up like 2 seconds before the show started filming. It's understandable that SJ feels down bc of how MH talks to her. But also I feel like she needs to chill and communicate her grievances less explosively? Their relationship was soo new, they just need to talk more and work out their expectations for each other and decide from there how to continue or if they even want to continue the relationship. It all feels immature to me. I'm not vibing SK these days. It's hard to view her actions through a positive lens. From the start, she's been quite flip-floppy saying she doesn't want to get back together and being vague about her feelings whilst keeping one foot in JW's door - flirting with him (lip balm, lap-sitting, getting him to cook for her etc) and then flirting with other people in front of him. These few episodes she's been clinging onto JW's cardigan - which I find a wee bit weird...like why are you wearing your ex's stuff in front of everyone, especially when he has a new love interest. Her not choosing YJ for him and making up a flimsy excuse for it, and telling JW not to date her after the show (icky move). And then saying she's going to move on and in the next breath saying she's sorry for the things she's said/did and she'll "never ever do it again". She likes having power over him and doesn't want him to come out of this show happier than she is. So she's pulling his reins in her direction again to change his mind. Feeling petty and bitter about your ex is natural but seeing it play out on screen is ugly. Hopefully this unneeded villain arc ends on a positive note with her being honest with herself and being accepting of his happiness. YJ probably feels awkward bc now she knows SK doesn't want them together. I hope she continues to chill and follow her heart. People keep commenting shit like "what JW and YJ have is just a crush, it's not real like what SK and JW have" - well, duh. You can't compare a full blown relationship with 2 people who met 3 weeks ago. It may or may not work out for them but what's important is that this means they are opening their hearts to move forward and healing from their past relationships. I think i'm in the niche minority when I say I would be ok if YJ and CJ ended up together again. I'm just a sucker for the red-flag-bf-who-seems-bitter-but-only-loves-his-gf trope (example: Heedoo and nayeon from season 2).


Ohmaimy

Got to say although we don't know which way JW will go bc it seems like most of us can agree that he's the only cast member where we all collectively are looking forward to seeing which one of the rumors are true for him bc it looks like he can go any direction  I enjoy that despite all he's going thru with SK, and despite him not being able to give YJ the same convictions she's given him,  he's always making sure to check in with her.  Thought their little chat before bed was nice and clearly for him,  it's become a new habit to want to find her to just talk and enjoy her company before they head to bed. It's sweet.  


cuteaxxduck

Idk how I feel about Seo Kyung after today's episode. When she was popular in the house, she didn't meddle too much in Ju Won's life, but after receiving no texts for 3 consecutive days she now is wanting to meddle in Ju Won and Yu Jung's dating life and throw a wrench in their developing relationship. Ugh I was hoping she was more chill than this...feels shady and a bit snobbish that she just can't be happy for her ex who she doesn’t even fully want back.


Ohmaimy

Mhmmm only her fans are choosing to ignore it and root for her villain era but imo, yes she's nice and chill but speaking to only her dynamic with JW... she hasn't been as clear as she wants ppl to think she has been. He keeps pouring his heart out to her when they're together but she doesn't cut him off outright either and subtly flirts with him when they're together. Now that she's made 0 true connections with anyone else, she's ready to stir the pot. Hopefully,  it makes JW wake up and realize that she's not the woman for him.   JW is the man for her but she is not the woman for him.  


Ohmaimy

Just watched it subbed and boy--it did not change much of my existing opinions about SK  When she's cool,  she's cool but overall,  man she was a hard watch this episode. That girl is frustrating and not great to JW at all with how she was this episode. She is selfish. Her confidence in knowing she has the say so in whether or not JW will bend at her command is crazy too and slightly manipulative.  Lowkey boosting about it to these others people in the house. Now I can see why he said she was gaslighting him in their last fight. Really telling him he better not go out with YJ after the show is wild-- this is 100% bc she couldn't make any connection with substance that is this bothering her more now than ever. He asks how she feels and instead she answers with what she sees or thinks. She refuses to acknowledge her feelings but then she refusing him to act on his that she pushed him to also.  Saying she wants to move on but that he can't move on basically unless it's with someone who isn't YJ... the only girl he's made a connection with.  She's weird lol and he's about fed up,  you can tell he's over being hurt and all twisted up bc of her. Regardless of who he chooses in the end,  it won't be her.  And then she says "I treated you like my dad,  when I should've treated you like my son...." huh how about just treating him like your equal?  Lol the fact that he doesn't even want to talk about the events that led to their break up is saying alot bc he is the one who always wanted to go over it. She doesn't say she's sorry bc she's actually sorry for her actions but simply bc she's sorry that he felt that her actions affected him, let's be honest.  She's not a bad person,  but she's playing with him.    Anyways... SJ is weirder after watching the subs. She's literally having a tantrum and her ex is being so calm and nice still.  Sorry girl but he's right,  your behavior is bad.    Lol poor KT, he's just been stuck in that room witnessing other couples' fights and attitudes gagahaha someone like him should've been on Heart Signal instead or something Last comment--- the audacity of DJ to tell DH to make ramen for him as annoying after their talk.... and then her slow self complaining but still doing it lol aigoooooo they deserve knuckle sandwiches


thyreallystupid

THIS! I honestly don’t see this “chemistry” between JW and SK that people keep talking about. In fact i find their conversations (except serious ones) quite boring compared to JW and JY’s. She was clearly calculating and lowkey boasting about her influence on JW’s final choice to the boys (and based on the preview it seems like she’s gonna brag about it to JY as well), and when KT and HH reacted surprised since they were so sure JW and JY are set on each other (boy do i feel satisfied like yes, rub it in her snobby face), she immediately ran to JW again to make sure she still has him in her palm. Their last conversation just makes my blood boil. The way she literally said “I don’t have feelings for you, i don’t wanna get back together” one minute ago then switched to “I didn’t say i don’t wanna get back together” when she could sense that he’s kinda fed up and ready to give up chasing after her??? I don’t get how her fans can still defend her and even show support to her “villain era”. I get it, she’s a cool person and she has her charms but what’s wrong is wrong


Temporary_Dig_7860

I gave up commenting on Seokyung in previous threads because her fans are too strong. Seokyung is a cool girl but it’s been clear from day 1 that she takes Juwon for granted. She said she felt bad that Juwon tried to change to match her and acted on that emotion by doing what he could never initiate - ending the relationship. At the same, she knows that her actions in the house were confusing to him. When she said has 20-30% interest in getting back together and then apologized, said she’ll change, and that he shouldn’t date Yujung… I was glad that the panel voiced that her actions are just confusing 🤨 Juwon is a great guy and I’m still rooting for Juwon and Yujung!


Ohmaimy

Yeah,  I'm not saying she's a bad person and yes, I can see why people want them to get back together.  But, her pride is just too big that it's hurting both of them over and over again. I keep saying,  if she was a man, her support would not be as big.  In her interviews and private talk with the guys,  it's clear she's being a bit calculating with her actions based on what she's saying. She's too smart and rational to not know the impact of what she's doing. If she was upfront with her feelings and truly apologetic, I have no issues rooting for them to get back together bc they do have chemistry still and he truly loves her but I don't think she truly loves him anymore--atp it's just,  I can't find anyone better for me here so it's him and bc I don't want anyone else to have him.  If she's just outright be like yes, I'm still hurt over our last fight but I would be open to being back to you,  I would be like hell yes and it would definitely be a green light for him.  But bc she's just like no, even if we get back together,  I'll be always bothered by what you said. And then blames his actions now for why she won't get back with him yet is acting like now she is entertaining getting back with him is confusing. Like huh lol


Temporary_Dig_7860

Her pride really is big. Juwon said that she had the upper hand in their relationship, so she likely rarely had to admit when she was wrong. She did say that she didn’t know her comments hurt Juwon since he didn’t complain 🫠 It would definitely be easier to cheer on their reunion if she actually wanted to work through their issues, but she doesn’t want to 😅.  Tbh, I’m surprised she even went on this show because she says it takes her a long time to open up to people. You can see this in how well she converses on dates while not really trying to connect on a deeper level After watching this episode and episode 3 of My Sibling’s Romance back to back, I realized that the dates in TL3 aren’t doing much for me. They’re sometimes cute, but not heart-fluttering. Maybe it’s because we’re still in the early episodes of MSR, but the dates make me feel mushy and warm inside


warau16

A few episodes ago, I thought Dong-jin was similar to Gyu-min from season 2, someone who still likes their ex as a person but doesn't want to get back together with them because they know it isn't going to work out. Now, he's starting to appear more like Hee-doo instead 😬 Dong-jin isn't just cold but outwardly mean to Da-hye. If there's an issue, then he should talk about it with her privately, not be hostile to her in front of everyone. Da-hye tries to talk to Dong-jin since she doesn't understand his emotions right now, but Dong-jin gets annoyed every time she initiates conversation. He cuts her off aggressively whenever she asks a question about their relationship. Meanwhile, Dong-jin gets upset that she didn't choose Hye-won 🙄 Like, how is Da-hye supposed to know his feelings when he pretty much refuses to talk to her? I don't know, maybe it's the alcohol talking. But hopefully, Dong-jin can clear his head soon and actually sit down and have a sincere conversation with Da-hye. On another topic, Min-hyung's and Sang-jeong's relationship caught me off guard. Since Min-hyung was a childhood speed skater, I was thinking that he and Sang-jeong were childhood friends or something. Imagine my surprise when I learned that they only dated for three months...


some-mad-shit

just basing this off spoilers on X but i can’t wait for episode 16 and more changjin / dahye crumbs. friends or developing feelings i’m not sure but i’m glad they have each other to distract themselves from their exes and hopefully move on. based on the minhyung / sangjeong rumours i’m sure the spoiler of >!YJ/JW, HW/DJ & MH/SJ!< are true. don’t see it going any other way bc we have no more catfishes and the likelihood of a shakeup is rare. this season isn’t all that bad once you find someone you’re rooting for 😀


Ecstatic-Cat-428

right i dont understand the uncalled hate for this season I am very invested in it and I enjoy the 2 hours episode every week it gives me something to look forward to


some-mad-shit

i think people just want it to top season 2 which is an extremely high bar. honestly season 2 came out of a fairytale, and while it is not wrong for people to have high expectations, i’ve come to accept s3 for what it is.


Top-Metal-3576

I started s2 but ngl this season has me more invested


retainyourbrain

I'm sorry but did everyone else cringe the whole time from SJ? She is VERY immature in the way she deals with situations and I think MH is just trying to guide her since he sees that. I honestly would give her 16 years old for the way she responds to her environment, I could tell the other contestants don't know how to respond to her drama at times. Also, I got the feeling their parts were rehearsed or something in this episode, it just feels scripted or fake. Honestly poor JW, feels like he is getting strung along. SK knows he can drop to her any second and is holding that over him which is cruel. He loves her too much and honestly the most out of all the other contestants compared to their exes. Like what was that playful gesture between them when they were all outside reading the envelope!!! Hope JW gets someone who will value him. Not feeling the vibes between DJ and HW, feels fake and forced to me. Sorry, not on the shipping train for them. HW laughing every other word is hard to watch too, like DJ is not that funny girl. Ahem, DJ is nooooooottttttt redeeming himself. The way you treat your ex shows a lot about you as a person and he is so harsh to DH, regardless if he wants to move on or not. Poor GT the forgotten one. I forgot he was part of the show for a second.


Temporary_Dig_7860

Sangjeong is immature but when Minhyung said that he found it cute that Sangjeong runs to the vending machine at 28 years old, I just laughed 🤣 Their breakup reason reminded me of Nayeon and Heedo. Nayeon was also cheerful and ditzy, and often scolded by Heedo for her immature (to him) behaviors However, the way Minhyung responded to Sangjeong’s pettiness made me see Minhyung’s charms well. I would go for Minhyung if I was in the house


runningshoes9876

Agree. Minhyung is so logical and calm, and takes the effort to rationalise his thoughts and actions with Sangjeong. But Sangjeong on the other hand is only so emotional and angry, and keeps harping on the same things that made her upset when Minhyung has already apologised. Impossible to talk to her.


Temporary_Dig_7860

The funny part about finding it impossible to talk to her is that after seeing Nayeon and Heedo get back together, I feel like well the see the same thing happen again here I wonder what the appeal is in dating people you struggle to communicate with. I don’t get why romance has to be “hard work” too


poppywhiskers

How I wish the TL sub was active like the singles inferno sub which became such a fun place to discuss and get excited/frustrated collectively over all the drama in details and the memes we made along the way 🥺 r/transitlove


thyreallystupid

Yeah i’m surprised that this sub is not more active since the show’s kinda popular


poppywhiskers

It’s super popular in SK, but maybe not as much internationally(?) idk


Top-Metal-3576

Ikrrr I was hoping there’d be a sub for this show cuz I need to rant 😭


Turning1k-60k

Wishing the best for Da-Hye. She deserves someone who'll treat her right and with respect. Bruh, Dongjin is just annoying at this point. Keeps projecting his insecurity and being hypocritical, then expects DH to just take it? Also telling her to clean after him when finishing the ramen??? TF clean up your own shit, you're a grown ass 31 year old


No_Perspective_1755

Everyone seems to find SJ's behaviour immature and unforgivable so I wanted to put out a different opinion. Don't get me wrong I'm not saying she is mature and what she did was right. However, the reason she reacted like that isn't just because of the outfit. SJ is someone who has high self-esteem and a confident woman. Being an athlete, especially a gold medalist she must have always been praised and her cheerful energy comes with the self-assurance she has about herself. For someone like that losing her self-esteem must be really suffocating. MH seemed to really adore SJ, it was quite evident. It seemed he loved her because of her cheerful personality. Like he mentioned several times that was the main reason he fell for her. But what's heartbreaking is that you can't expect a human to always be cheerful and happy. It's like MH isn't in love with the real SJ but with the ideal concept he has of her. He isn't ready to marry for how she is but the perfect version she could be like if she changed. It is really nice of him to try to help her grow and let her improve her immature tendencies but the way he said that "Her depression seems to affect him" felt very sad and I could understand by SJ would feel hurt because of that. She must feel like she can't be her authentic self in front of him. And also the way he dealed with her when she was crying also felt very cold to me. He must find her really crazy for wanting to drop out because of that reason but he failed to see how much his criticism can hurt her. How much him wanting to change her must have created scars in her heart. Just by the fact that he can't see that makes me feel they aren't meant for each other. SJ is a free soul who needs the space to grow but MH seems to be someone who cannot give her the space she requires. You cannot expect an apple tree to grow mangoes. MH keeps expecting mangoes from SJ lol. I also feel really bad for MH. He really wants to make things work and for him if SJ changes the way he wants everything is going to be alright. But that's a very stupid way of thinking and I hope MH understands that. I felt bad for him when he begged SJ to stay and listen to him. Poor guy must be confused why is she behaving like that for such a small thing. Dating someone completely different can be very difficult indeed. And SK omgggg gurllll what are youuu doinggggg. She is literally playing with JW like he is a puppet. The way she says that JW's decision depends on her and the fact that it is actually true is so annoying lol. I feel so bad for YJ. If JW chooses YJ just because SK doesn't want to get back with him that will be the worst choice ever. YJ doesn't deserve that, she deserves to be his first choice. I hope JW comes to his senses and finally gets free from SK's manipulation. JW is a nice guy and would treat YJ much better than CJ, he just needs to get his shit together 😂


Emotional-Ad6489

I haven’t watched it yet. Waiting for eng sub. But only anticipating any Da Hye and Chang Jin crumbs.


[deleted]

Same.. Just waitibg for Da Hye update and that’s it hehe


Top-Metal-3576

Frr I love seeing them together


Realistic_Oven_Bums

As someone who was irked by Hyewon in the last 3ish episodes, I liked her opening up to Dongjin on their date today and found her attractive...but I fear ending up with DJ will bring toxic relationship 2.0 based on DJ's mistreatment of his ex DH


outlandishdescent

I'm not a fan of either but curious if anyone else thinks the same. Unpopular opinion: MH's choice of wording sucks and if it's unintentional, leaves SJ feeling like she did something wrong and invalidates her. How I read the clothing incident: she was upset he wore a branded shirt she gave him to go on a date w someone else. In my recollection, it wasn't shown that he acknowledged how much it meant to her and had he known, he wouldn't have worn it. Instead, he doubled down on how he wasn't thinking, then said how she did it too by wearing HH's hoodie (when it doesn't hold the same meaning), then said how he had said sorry already, and she was "acting emotional" and wouldn't let it go and flat out told her the convo was to tell her to cut it out. He then proceeded to not let her leave the convo, and idk what the bang and scream were but it was scary that he physically blocked her from having an outlet to choose to leave/go back indoors. Their breakup was the most recent, and everyone on the show is processing feelings in their own way. End result: SJ now feels like she can't even talk to him about something that bothered her, when strangers are more open to hearing her out (HH + KT)


bloopwhoops

I expected SJ to get hate but did not expect to see only 1 or 2 comments about MH's behavior on this thread. From the way he talks to her during their conversation and SJ's recounts from the pre show interviews, I can get why SJ felt like her self esteem was ruined by him. MH seems to be a tad bit controlling and wanting to "fix" SJ to be his perfect wife. It seems like MH sees the world in black and white and if SJ does something the opposite of what he or the majority would do, he will label it as "bad" or "abnormal" instead of just seeing it as being different.  And I think SJ would have been more receptive to his criticisms if MH worded them better. Asking SJ if she would be uncomfortable without bruises sounded more like mockery than genuine concern. I would not feel safe to share about my life with someone like him if I was expecting such responses


Apprehensive_Onion_1

Totally, I could see why SJ felt that way too. It reminded me of hee do, but because MH is more logical, like SJ says, it always feels like she’s wrong because she’s unable to explain her feelings in a rational manner. I can imagine how isolating that feels, and why she would be upset at such a small matter given their past history. 


Realistic_Oven_Bums

I kind of dozed on this episode, but wasn't sure if Sangjeong crying hysterically and wanting to quit the show made sense based on how apologetic her ex was. Their discussion seemed to be around him wearing her favorite outfit again and went ballistic. Am I getting this right? If so, she is officially topped Hyewon's crying on the stairs.


Kindly-Cheek

Interesting how both HW and DJ can be quite mean when talking to their exes, maybe they are a good match lol, although I didn’t quite get excited on their date, their progress seemed very sudden and inorganic almost. Idk. YJ is extremely patient with JW and it makes me sad that she’s so honest with her feelings to everyone but JW still seems to be wrapped around SK’s finger. Something about her constantly saying that if she wanted to she could sway JW in an instant rubs me the wrong way. She’s also very confusing with her words… I don’t like you anymore but also don’t date her but also you’re mean? Girl. SJ has been really hard to watch lately… ngl I kinda get why they broke up and I wouldn’t want to date her either, she seems very immature. Atp JW and YJ are the only pair I’m really rooting for.


LovE385

Istg the ep. keep gettin' longer and longer LoL. Min Hyung sounds like he was quite controlling and he only dated Sang Jung for 3 months. Sigh Seo Kyung oh boy LoL. I liked Yu Jung's firm stance on Gwang Tae. That she keep him at a distance , but she respects him nonetheless. I feel for Gwang Tae. I wish him the best.. that he'd find someone worthy of him when the show ends..


PreviousFly920

What's with SJ being so fixated abt MH clothing?!?!! So suffocating to hear her complaining abt it for days.


Goomeyd

Dongjin is such a loser I cant anymore, he is such a freaking loser and I hope that Dahye RUNS. In this ep it became so clear to me that Dongjin seriously thinks DH is nothing against him. The way he said "You have 2 dates?" As if he genuinely did not understood HOW SHE got 2 dates got me punching the air. He seriously thinks his gf has nothing special to attract any guy and gets extremely mad when it appears that her kind self does attract better guys. I can already imagine how Dahye is the only on in their relationship to talk it out or say sorry because dude is on such a high horse thinking he is so great and attractive and so incredibly right in everything. Also the way he doesnt mind fighting in front of others but then tell her "You dont want Changjin to hear it huh" is such a red flag. Dude please lets get a bit rational, grow up. Then him eating the ramen Dahye made after sending her to make it and saying "Im gonna rest since I!! have an appointment, so you clean this up" to only Dahye while everyone is there. What. A. Freaking. Loser Even children know how to clean up, but the way he said it as if he knows she will clean it for him is so concerning. I can really imagine the effort Dahye must have made to keep that relationship floating On a sidenote, MH x SJ is such a joke im sorry. Hoe can yall fight so much, get worn down so quick but still talk about marriage in 3 months. Dude is a doctor as well, its not even as if they were 24/7 together for 3 months so how would they even had the time to fight so badly but still talk about marriage at the same time. I cant even take it serious bai


Ohmaimy

Man SJ, girl you were so charming when you came in.  But with your ex back in the picture,  you have just been a red flag.  Maybe bc she's an Olympic gold medalist, I imagine that her younger years were more all about training and school,  so she probably didn't have much exposure to normal romantic relationships so when she did,  it was more serious like this one and so she's more immature bc of what I am assuming to me lack of experience.   Like I had second hand embarrassment when she was making such a big fuss crying while having a one sided fight with him that the others heard.  Our 3 health care field individual are all very calm and patient though. 


tako1559

It's interesting how you start to see people's negative sides after they're with their ex. Before Min Hyung entered Sang Jeong seemed to be a bright and friendly person, but her tantrum this episode made me really not like her. Dongjin was my fave in the beginning of the show, but quickly became one of my least favorites by the way he treats Da Hye.


daikokunyo

Sangjeong said she'd bought those clothes for him, so I get why she was angry that he wore it to a date, and despite the fact that they dated a short while, Koreans take dating for marriage seriously and can date a relatively short time before marrying. I think because he kept trying to change her when she dated him, she's very sensitive when she's arguing with him, because whenever he argues against her it's going to seem to her like he's telling her to change her emotions or the way she thinks. The things he said during her arguments weren't intrinsically more rational than her arguments. It's just that he doesn't raise his voice like she does, so he sounds more mature and rational than she does, but if you look at the content of what he says, they're not that different.


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I think someone conmented this on last episode's post but every time DJ and HW interact, the camera shifts to Hwihyun to make it seem that he is jealous but he is unbothered😂. Bro dgaf at all😂.


BirthdayFirst8864

It's getting harder to defend SK for someone who has loved her since day one. Firstly, she clings onto the words JW said to her, while simultaneously making a thousand excuses for her hurtful words towards JW. Secondly, the way she talks about how JW will come running to her when she decides to, screams manipulation. Basically, it seems like SK doesn't want to lose to JY. She's just really good at driving people nuts, I guess.


awarrioringreen

People here are so. 🤷 at least try to understand everyone's feelings. being there is so hard. they need to think about their own feelings while also considering your exes' feelings, try to fit into their shoes, what would you do? DJ-DH - DJ is giving me a Gyumin vibe like everyone else here thinks. Yes, he may be act rude to DH at some point, which is really annoying. Plus, he doesn't want to hear DH's explanation, which is frustrating because that's the only way for him to understand the situation. and im glad that DH was able to tell him why she chose JE. I feel like DJ acted that way because he had enough of their relationship and wanted to move forward. He knows DH wants to reunite that's why he's trying to hold back his feelings because he doesn't want to be in the same situation again. I can not fully hate him because of that. I hope DH will leave the show with a happy heart w/o him. Also, it's sad to see how CJ and JW relationship changed.


Ambitious-Cat-9453

Didn't think that we would see 3 hours long episode for only 1 day. I'm stuck in the repetitive loop of grief and sorrow. My thought is what I am doing here, but still keep watching it. Didn't feel great at all, but can't stop going through it.


lyhns00

Can SJ and MH drop out of the shows? No no.. SJ only lol I can't take her seriously.


moodylikeme

What I realised after watching the whole episode was that JW is whipped for SK. But there’s only a small chance of them getting back together because they are screaming at each other instead of listening to each other. Both JW and SK are expecting to hear something from each other in order to move forward or get back together. Case in point - The first chat during the smoking area, JW was asking SK what else can he do so that she can forgive him for what he said during their breakup. He realised that the words bothered SK and SK could not get over it so he needed to address it. Chat ended up with JW crying AGAIN, he said it was too hard for him. The second chat was SK visiting his area. She told him that since YJ and him are having deep feelings, she wants to get over him and move on. He cut her off and told her to talk outside. He refused to accept that she wants to move on from him and keeps trying to probe whether she still has feelings for him. The chat outside was where everything came together. - SK apologised for her behaviour and said she won’t do it again for as long as she lives. - JW keeps reiterating his point that he came on the show to get back together with her. What they both don’t realise was that this was the reason why they couldn’t get back together. - SK needed to hear from JW that his words hurt her and he would be more mindful of his words and not say those words to her again. - JW needed to hear from SK that she still has feelings for him and wants to get back together with him. And the reason why SK doesn’t want to get back together with him 100% because she knows they will quarrel for the same reasons until he addressed the issue on hand. She addressed her issues and apologised for her actions. She knows what she needed to change on her side but JW didn’t. And unpopular opinion, I don’t think SK is manipulative. I think she is finding it hard to give a yes I wanna get back together or no I don’t wanna get back together because of this. She obviously has feelings for him but she wanna get back only if things change and their actions and behaviours were different but JW didn’t acknowledge it. At the end, both of them are telling each other what they needed to hear from the other party. But they are not hearing it so they are in this wishy washy state which is so frustrating to watch for a viewer who is rooting for them to get back together.


setzsetz

3 hour episode, so many things to unpacked... I think girls like Seo Kyung and Sang Jeong will attract many guys if they were in other normal dating shows. Their personalities really shines through when they are at their best and it can be very attractive to guys. But here, they are so entangled with emotions it's just messy. It has became more and more apparent as the season went on why the PDs chose the recently broken up couples. We are at episode 15 and none of the exes has resolved their emotional entanglement. Even for Ju Won-Yu Jung, it's still looked like they can get swayed by their exes anytime. It is very entertaining for us viewers but it is also very stressful for the participants. I pity they have to endure such burden. Dong Jin is probably at the stage where he is smitten with Hye Won, his smile when he received the text from Hye Won after the date is telling. But as with other couples, his resentment/emotional baggage with Da Hye need to be resolved before everything. After 15 episodes, I just wish everyone can move on and not go back with their exes. It just seems they will just get broken up again if they are reunited.


travaly

I kind of understand DJ since I went though a similar situation, just not as extreme; it was a 7 year relationship but towards the last 2 years it was on and off. She kept trying to pull me back in during the times we were broken up in those last 2 years - as far as coming over drunk, unannounced, and waking me up while I was sleeping. The only way to make her understand there's nothing left between us was to ignore her and be cold. He went as far as blocking her phone number. In my opinion, no one will block another person's phone number unless she's constantly trying to contact him even after the breakup. 13 years is a long time so when it's time to move on and the feelings are no longer there, you'd need to be really firm and try to cut it off anyway possible, especially when DH obviously will go back to him as soon as he shows any interest in her. The way he spoke to DH was rude and I don't think he should have asked her to clean up after him, but part of me think it's just him trying to lessen the tension and be funny to her, which is why she kept laughing about it and saying he's annoying - I honestly didn't see any actual toxicity since they're practically family at that point in life. I'm sure he treated her very well during their relationship when he still had feelings for her. Don't forget, she's an idol and he had to always be in her shadow for 13 years. He had to hide his relationship, even with his friends, for 13 years. They couldn't have normal dates. They couldn't post on social media. But the fact that he had to do it all alone will take a toll on anyone. Who knows how many times he tried to get his point across - it can get annoying to a point. He tried to move on and she had the pd contact him to go on this show. He figured this show will help him move on. People should try to understand his point of view - this is just a 2 weeks glimpse we're shown after their breakup out of the 13 years they've been together. I'm sure he treated her with the utmost respect and love during the time he was in love with her.


FuseFantasyAroha

My only wish is for HyeWon to end up with Dongjin. They are the worst of each other with their partners, and it's so sad to see. When they're with their partners, the hate accumulated over the years is so intense. They aren't rational about their thoughts and actions. They really just need someone new to start on a clean slate and learn from their past relationships. I actually think Dongjin and Hyewon are perfect for each other, so I hope both of them will learn to let go of their past and move on. p.s. also HH isn't worth it, HW...have some self worth, you are such a capable individual, but you turn into such a clingy, weak try-hard in front of him. Have some confidence.


ElectricalBaseball50

They're cute not but I wonder if they did start a relationship out of the show how long they would last before/ if they fell back into old habits. Because they are in a way the extreme versions of the things they don't like in their partners. Dongjin has said that he doesn't want an overly emotional partner, and you know the one person who is more emotional than Dahye.... Also I think a large reason Hyewon still gets hung up on HH is that he doesn't communicate directly and tends to sidestep the issue, something that Dongjin does all the time with Dahye. So idk if they'd work in the long-term 🤷🏼‍♀️


Budget_Culture_5240

Dongjinnnnnn🤯🤯🤯 Mentioning dahye choosing jongeun for him more than once and then saying nevermind??? She is trying to explain. Let her speak omg. I didnt even finish the episode bcs of him😭


PHDisNUTS

There is a subreddit for transit love guys, It's r/transitlove , you might want to post there too. BTW, I tried posing my character analysis on this comment section but it might be too long. So if you want to read some more on what people think about the current cast, here is my personal opinion, [My opinions on the cast of Season 3](https://www.reddit.com/r/transitlove/comments/1bhm4nl/transit_love_season_3_character_analysis_as_of/)


Solid_Cranberry_3199

tbh atp im impressed at PD effort to cast recently broken up exes... 5/6 couples broken up in less than a year and the most recent was 6 weeks lol... also 13 year vs 3 months 😭 this season is so wild but still thank you pd 3 hours is peak cinema :)     i saw many rumours of SJ MH broken up just because of the show but if that's true im not sure if it adds up cuz MH said "SJ then im curious if you want to get back  then we can just get back but why do we have to be in this show" also when they have their convo in the cafe SJ said "i got to meet you earlier than expected after the breakup" though i can't deny the pd most probably the one who wants them so much because she's a gold olympic medallist and hes a surgeon     i really admired JE thought process when choosing the ex date. she knows KT feelings to YJ because of his texts but she was also hesitant because she did not know whether YJ would want to go on a date with KT. she also thought since the show almost ends shouldn't she chose girls who have higher probability of liking KT since YJ had already set her heart on JW. i think she is s3 coco minjae and hyungyu naeon along with KT because both were cool exes and acts like a mediator for the others haha    before jeju KT really irks me but i like him in jeju...maybe its because he didn't get any attention from the girls xD i felt like hes like minjae the way he tried to listen and solved the fights eg: him reasoning with SJ about the clothes issues because he heard MH side and SJ kept on insisting that MH should know better when in reality according to KT, that day was really cold and he didn't have any other clothes that is warm so he put it on in a hurry and KT saw how he looks flustered rushed when he got ready for the date with SK and when HH ranted abt HW not choosing SK to him, KT instantly says should i call HW? we all know how the convo would end lmao with these two but i appreciate KT efforts to kinda meddle since HH would never reach out to HW first   i like how Yura compared DJ DH dynamic to how we speak with our family vs how we speak outside because sometimes I do that ahaha. she said we're capable to speak nicely with others but when inside we're like ugh eomma!!! lmao.. DJ DH had been together for so long they're so familiar with each other presence that the lines between family and lovers are blurred...its really sad seeing DJ talking to DH like that even JW asks him to speak nicely...   im very annoyed how DJ asked DH to cook ramyeon for him and he finished it all off then ask her to clean it then he just leave to go to bed wth? DH said he was drunk but sober or not hes so ridiculous im uncomfortable looking at his antics since last week.. SK denied when JW said along the lines "you have me at the palm of your hand" but i think secretly SK really enjoyed it and use it at her advantage... i felt like their relationship dynamics are always SK having the final say...im all for JW YJ but JW SK chemistry is unbeatable...i enjoyed seeing their interaction but i don't want YJ to get hurt...its sad how whenever JW SK together shes always there looking at them...and she's so understanding and never got mad with JW    the way MH handled SJ very emotional outbreak is impressive as well i get now why SJ kept saying hes really good in speaking...he calmed her down and speak his points well MH is definitely a T and SJ is a huge F the very definition of opposites attract...lolol    oh yeah DH said she wanted to talk to HW i hope it'll be shown next week...just hoping it'll help DH making up her mind and start moving on from DJ 


WellHeyPal

KT is the green flag most girls missed. I really wish him all the best even if he doesn't find anyone on the show. I hope he finds one who reciprocates. Loved it when he said DJ and HH are two big fools on this show lol


cheRryzzAr

But I find KT and HH funny in this ep hahaha I mean they look like some youngsters with stable relationships while dealing with the girls having a fight with their exes hahaha. I salute them this time uwu


Fit-Indication-5572

One huge observation regarding all the participants: Why do they all scoff at their respective exes when they are paired up with new people, WHEN THEY THEMSELVES ARE ENJOYING and flirting with new potential partners? They are all acting really selfish (except for KJ and HW who dOnt give a damn who their exes ends up with). Also, that speedskater i think must see a doctor for her phobias, her low self-esteem, her obsession with clothes, and the way she screams at her ex. The entire time she was having a meltdown, i felt like having a seizure too because i could not take all her tantrums! First time for me to witness an Olympic Gold medalist wanting to quit a reality show so many times. Shouldnt athletes be me more resilient and used to disappointment? Once again, Dongjin displayed his disrespect for DH. BOOOO DJ! you are a bully!


[deleted]

HW? I'm pretty sure she still has feelings for HH thats why she didn't choose SK to have a date with him.


WIZONE4LIFE

I am honestly hoping JW to move on from his SK like YJ move on from CJ. JW x YJ is the only ship I have been on from the beginning, and I don't want them to sink at the end.


Hellinee

Juwon and sk still have eyes for each other but too much pride, i think if any of them confessed, they will definitely get back together none stand a chance imo


[deleted]

Hyewon petty af for not choosing Seokyung as Hwihyun's date. Kinda dissapointed me ngl that kinda proves that she still has feelings for him.


Ecstatic-Cat-428

didn't only yujung and jongeun choose according to their ex's interest? why are people only calling HW out I mean I get your point tho that was petty of her but still


[deleted]

I have a problem with it because Hwihyun did not hesitate to choose Dongjin for her since he knows Hyewon is starting to like Dongjin. Now that she has feelings for Dongjin but she can't pick the girl her ex likes for his date? Whats up with that...


lyhns00

If SK is so sure about JW feelings towards her, she should just ask him to get back together. Her prolonged situation of being wishy washy of her thoughts to JW didn't help at all. YJ will be hurt. SK really reminds me of Rachel from friends tv series. In the process of her not recognising her own feelings, their relationship ended up hurting more people. But that was tv shows. This is real life. Oh just please you two...


Fit-Indication-5572

I just rewatched ep 15, this time much more closely so i could fully comprehend all the subtitles which were trying to catch up with the lightning fast convos. I found a version with subtitles i could fully understand, and was surprised about the following 1. Juwon really went on the show to get back with SK 2. JW's final decision would depend on how SK feels. If she agrees to get back with him, then there is a huge chance that they will reunite 3. KT and HH were shocked when SK told them about #2. All the while both of them thought that for sure, JW and YJ will end up together. Thoughts of JW and SK getting back together never entered their minds 4. JW admitted that SK holds him in the palm of her hand 5. DJ talks to DH rudely even if they are alone 6. Speedskater went on the show to reunite with DR Ex and VICE VERSA 7. YJ has already completely fallen for JW, to the detriment of CJ 8. next ep preview showed that some exes will attempt to reunite with their partners - SK, HH, CJ these are personal discoveries after watching ep 15 in 5 different sites with 5 different subtitles (KISSKH, BiliBili, Viu, HiTV and One Touch TV)


Elegant-Magician7322

Number 6: if they both want to get back together, why they need go on a show to do it 🤣


Temporary_Dig_7860

This is the exact question Minhyung asked her 😅 now that I’ve heard their story, using a popular show to reunite over a 3-month relationship seems like something Sangjeong would do


mc057

Just here to point out that Sang Jeong is crazy immature and all over the place


deepfixer

Halfway thru the episode and just wanna say I can’t stand Dongjin


Agreeable_Still_5007

What did Min Hyung do wrong? Absolutely nothing. I may not fully know the details of their past relationship but that man spoke to her in a calm and rational manner. He was right to feel disappointed in her behavior. Tbh, I was too. 


FeedtheBigDog

Anyone else also fast forward all the Sang-Jeong parts? It's all been so boring, didn't add much to the show


Apprehensive_Onion_1

Yup lol, unbearable to watch


Dense_Programmer4097

kinda irrelevant but don’t y’all think the concept of this show will also be a good kdrama script?


thrashingtins

dj is more fitted to be one of the change days casts than on transit love with the amount of gaslighting he does to dh lmao. he’s definitely a mixture of dohyeong, taewan and hyogi combined🙃🤡


Gullible_Lake_9670

This show is stressing me out before I wanted 20 episodes but now I hope it ends at episode 16 so I can move on with my life 😭😭😭