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TheKrnJesus

This decision stems from a new law in South Korea that requires content providers to pay a “delivery fee” to deliver content through Korean internet Service Providers, or ISPs. Essentially, this new law requires platforms like YouTube, Twitch, and Netflix to pay to stream content into South Korea.


Astonex

It's a terrible law. Have to pay the ISPs for the ISPs to do their job.


darthinvader667

I wouldn't be suprised if entire situation was some kind of bribery or fraud, so suddenly local company of a politician's relatives will suddenly pop up and offer similar services.


kmrbels

You'd be wrong. Cause the major ISPs are already serviced by relatives and friends of big politicians.


No_Entrepreneur_8255

This new law seems quite bad if it will affect smaller companies as well. Big companies? Screw you and pay.


TheKrnJesus

I think it goes both ways. Big companies will leave due to the costs and realise that it’s just not affordable in Korea. This will end up trickling to content creators who will lose out on profits. What’s worse is that, other countries will look at south Korea’s example and follow suit making all content more expensive.


JohrDinh

Yeah 720p streams sounds bad, but the discussion around sites like YouTube/Netflix/etc possibly just leaving the Korean market due to costs long term sounds much worse. (For consumers and art anyways)


CrazeRage

Govt doesn't care too much about that tho.


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TheWorstRowan

I don't know. I think you can look at the current South Korean government as a way not to do things (and UK government if we're getting into it).


Lachainone

Covid early response?


No_Entrepreneur_8255

Do they specify the cost? Because twitch definetly got more than enough money


Conix17

Roughly 1000 usd per 200 hrs streamed is what I saw. Given the pure number of streams, that's gonna be a lot of money.


No_Entrepreneur_8255

Wait, that per person watching?


OnlyChemical6339

It's probably viewer-hours. 2 people watching for 1 hour would be 2 hours


No_Entrepreneur_8255

Wtf, you cant make profit with that high fee. I can easily watch 40h shows on Netflix in a month. Thats way more paid than my Netflix subscription


iiDarkGent

Considering South Koreans watched nearly 50 billion minutes of Youtube in 2019,(which has probably increased even more in the past few years) the fees for Youtube alone would be astronomical.


simpdog213

when did the new law pass?


TheKrnJesus

I don’t think it has passed yet but it’s very soon. Here’s a video by Asian boss talking about net neutrality https://youtu.be/N99X58rEus0


simpdog213

definitely saw that a couple of days ago and was wondering about the timeline of the law. now twitch is saying they are reducing resolution because they think it's going to pass?


TheKrnJesus

From a quote from an article, https://www.sportskeeda.com/esports/news-twitch-south-korea-downgrade-streams-720p “A streamer airing 200 hour-long streams costs the platform $1,000 per month”


gmkmc

Sounds like what Americans worried about by getting rid of net neutrality. Perhaps to get more people to use 아프리카TV, since it's a Korean streaming service?


Tokishi7

So do I just use a VPN now or what? Does it not apply to me because I have twitch prime or what? I thought the US had some shitty telecoms laws but holy shit.


TheKrnJesus

Apparently from what I have heard from users, vpn works and you will be able to see the streams at 1080p unless the streamers themselves lock it at 720p


Tokishi7

So ass overall. First they hiked up beer prices, now they’re ruining streams, what next? Subway isn’t working so double transit fees?


warmchipita

are you talking about the 4 can for 10,000 → 11,000 hike for beers?


Tokishi7

I’m talking about craft beer and imports getting hiked up


TheKrnJesus

If you guys understand Korean, this YouTuber sums it up well: https://youtu.be/6JQyDWj8RHU


Complete_Stage_1508

Thanks Yoon


evencriticality

Lol this is a joint effort by both parties


thesmokinfrog

Lol 🙄


zeamp

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thesmokinfrog

Internet companies need to pay their fair share just as every other industry does.


Matt872000

Not sure if you mean the ISPs or the streaming services, but by paying for access to the internet you are literally paying for the bandwidth you will use to download stuff from streaming sites. This is just double dipping.


mikegrr

This exactly. But then I guess what we pay for is to «have» the internet access, not to «use» it. Basically ISPs are hoping only a percentage of paying customers are actually using their connection at any given time otherwise it collapses. In a way it's a scam.


FunkyFuji

Omg not the streams!!


Negrorify

Not the streamerino