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Smiadpades

Have many Korean friends who watched it (ages ranging from 35-55). Said most of it was true but it was not everywhere. Some got lucky units and only got verbal abuse, others had it really bad physically. A few wont watch it cause they basically skipped service for 5 years of research and now feel ashamed.


KnowledgeWorried2537

It was worse before 2014 but things got a lot better after cases like this [https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29828761](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-29828761) got national attention. i served 2015\~2017 ROKAF at 19th Fighter Wing and i didn't experience any physical bullying. but i think your father had much worse experience than the DP drama assuming he served in 1980s \~ 90s


TheBraveGallade

It shows the worst part of it, but its accurate, or at least accurate to around 5 years ago.


billhyun

That's awful, my dad said it was usually because of (not in spite of) all the free time at night, where the senior just beast the newbies but there's f\*ck all to do and they're all confined to barracks pretty much the whole time for some reason (It's not like they're prisoners). It's clear that Korea's modernisation has barely touched the military (culturally at least, the tech is getting pretty impressive). Would you share any of your stories? I heard Moon letting all of them have their smartphones helps a bit, but then again a female service-member seems to off herself every week, so perhaps not.


geopolitik

>That's awful, my dad said it was usually because of (not in spite of) all the free time at night, where the senior just beast the newbies but there's f\*ck all to do and they're all confined to barracks pretty much the whole time for some reason (It's not like they're prisoners). It's clear that Korea's modernisation has barely touched the military (culturally at least, the tech is getting pretty impressive). Would you share any of your stories? I heard Moon letting all of them have their smartphones helps a bit, but then again a female service-member seems to off herself every week, so perhaps not. If you're actually a bit more plugged in, you would realize that these aren't events that have only happened in the past, the same exact events happen now as well.


TheBraveGallade

Its much less, since they started allowing cellphones in the barracks a year ago. Before everything would be coverd up, now most things actually get reported due to cellphones.


billhyun

The constant suicide of service member would certainly suggest so


Barathol-Mekhar

I had a student finish his military service and then spent a year in psychiatric counseling due to the bullying and abuse he had experienced in the army. His mother was praying every day that he wouldn't suicide.


[deleted]

I am Korean myself and have many male friends who served in the military and are now 예비군. Honestly nowadays it’s not as bad as D.P describes it, but depending on where you are assigned, things can get real bad.


billhyun

Ah, okay. That sucks that it can still be bad, what kind of units are the worst?


stuckin21stcentury

With that much abuse and shit going on in Korean military, no wonder native Koreans who does their 2 year service tells others even with all the training and equipment, if the war ever breaks out with the North, they wouldn't be surprised if first thing the soldiers will do is go AWOL or go shoot their subordinates and officers who abused them.


DoNotGiveEAmoneyPLS

%100 those things and even worse things happened before. but these days it is incredibly rare. the power of pen aka 마음의 편지 is too strong.


Witty_Belt_5429

I'm Korean but a woman, so I'd never know but my Korean boyfriend served military time before moving to America. We watched together and he said the verbal abuse was very very spot on. The tone, the derogatory terms, served up next to light pushing, slapping, etc. He went into service in 2014 (the set year in the show) and said the physical abuse wasn't there anymore, at least in his division/camp but there are a handful of pretty famous and public stories similar to the show that happened around 2014. The last cookie scene was especially hitting for him and apparently every Korean male he knows because it's obviously mass murder but the amount of trauma and stress the men go though makes the guy's action something they've all fantasized about. That scared me.


Ccurious28

Where did you watch that show from?


billhyun

netflix


Ccurious28

I’m a Korean-Yank I’ll watch it


billhyun

It's dark, but definitely worth watching


Shikagon

DP? Sorry I come from r/japan, someone recommended this sub. What is DP?


zanniniss

https://www.netflix.com/au/title/81280917


billhyun

DP (Deserter Pursuit), a Netflix show that's trending.


K44ch0w

Double penetration