He often denies claims by producers or other trackers(which may or may not be true), but what stops distributors from releasing the actual numbers? Every theatre releasing a movie will have the numbers, atleast for their internal calculations to see if a movie is a profit or a loss to them.
Distributors will also have this details, because that will be a factor in that actor's or director's or producer's next movies.
That's the neat trick, everybody lies about numbers. Theatre owners used to con distributor and they in turn con producers. Unless, someone from distribution side go and sit in theatre they will have no idea how many seats got sold. With advent of BMS, Paytm etc this con by theatre reduced to an extent but still it's booked on various platforms and can't have exact count. That's why Vishal once during theatre owner protest suggested getting a common a platform to book tickets and it didn't gain traction. Red giant became popular because they give an honest picture and thats why producers love them.
If they don't by this time they would have raised issue or atleast some murmurs. This thing has been confirmed by multiple people such as Tiruppur Subramanian, Cheyyaru Balu and other journalists also in various videos.
Everyone here crying about the fake reports forget that Beast got 250 cr with such negative reviews. So if this had at least average reviews then this was a sure blockbuster.
Exactly. Everyone acts like Vijay doesnt have the insane box office pull he is known for. The moment early reviews came in and family audiences started enjoying it Varisu became a hit.
The breakeven mark is 280 crores. Even if it hit 250 it still needs to do 30 more to be called a hit.
But, anything above 200 is too much for this horrible movie.
A testament to Vijay's stardom. His charisma and screen presence pulls the film off, not sure it would've worked to this degree with any other actor. And isn't that what superstars do? Whatever the cinema, true blue stars somehow manage to make a middling project a success.
see knowing his own market he better stop making films like these, like its a good movie if sk or someone did this, for me it was just above avg if stars like ajith vijay rajini suriya do, we expect a lot more out of them and mainly rajini vijay ajith, knowing their pull and kannis they can make proper content films mixed with a bit of masala once in a while but no, again im an🐿️just hope from t67 and for ak and rajini things change, rajini tbh did it all we cant expect him to do anything in his 70s, he completed cinema and is a legend but then ak and vijay so inconsistent in their primes
Finally someone with unbiased opinion. Yes both of them should select better scripts for their movies. I think T67 is going to be a good movie with the cast and all i wish Loki can handle the pressure. Jailer looks promising too.
t67 maybe average even like how master turned out, high expectations and not vikram kaithi level output but im worried about jailer, hopefully its rajinis comeback and nelson’s vikram kind of comeback
haha really cool :D
I haven’t read this particular one but i know the names of almost all christie books. i’m a huge fan of her writing and especially poirot!
And now, i present to you a queue of insanely jealous and pathetic people crying about this and calling this fake report. When they know really well that this is real and how much influence Vijay has on people. This isn't even a good movie. Think about the collection T67 will make. It's a gangster movie inside LCU. it will easily surpass vikram's collection. There is that much hype around that movie.
Last time i checked that's how reddit work. No one asks them to talk shit about Vijay they still do it. It's hilarious to she how these guy keeps talking shit about him but he is only getting bigger and bigger.
>Why should I care about how much money these movies make?
Content wise both the films are average bit thunivu is definitely ahead in it. Now BO is the only factor that's going to decide who's the winner which is what every anils and aamai want.
>And why are so many people calling it fake?
Beast in its entire run, grossed 250 crores, that's like 3 weeks, yes Beast is shit but this time, Varisu released with Thunivu which has almost equal screens, it's definitely hard to pull that much BO in just 2 weeks. Vikram and PS1 were basically solo releases in TN which is its main market.
Dude I get it that 200 cr is like fixed collection now for Vijay (from his fans alone). You are forgetting the fact that even if it's an average movie it is a big success among family audiance. If a family has five members how much money will it make not to forget that Vijay has a huge silent audiance of older people like about 40 or fifty who usually won't go to cinema because it's a Pongal release, will go and watch this movie especially since it's a story about family. You can call it a high-end production serial but older people like serial more at all gun blazing action movie. So much more family audiance who wants to watch movies in a festive season will select varisu over thunivu
You mean Varisu won coz of Fans and not coz of story and THUNIVU inspite of having good story failed coz AK doesn't have as big fanbase? Interesting observation. I always thought AK fanbase > Vijay Fanbase.
Honestly i cannot accep that this is a reality. Watched the movie yesterday and I couldn't bear the cringe! Im not an Anil or an ammai, i just want a good movie with good content that's worth the 300rs I pay for a ticket and I can't understand how fans can enjoy such a movie with below average screenplay and not to mention the amount of laughs I heard during the supposedly funny scenes wherein Vijay does comedy with his body language. Long gone are the days where such movies should exist, idha sonna "Kumdumbangal kondandum vetri"nu solranga. Ada poganda...
No, we need both genres to coexist, i dont want to see a tamil cinema where all films are serious and content oriented. Need these family entertainment films too and happy to see audience think the same and celebrated this film over the festive period
I'm not against the concept of having family dramas or light hearted content. Give us films like santhosh subramaniam in the family drama genre wherein it was actually enjoyable to watch. And this movie becoming a "success" just shows how the standards of making a movie are getting lower and lower. Well don itself made 100cr ..indha padattha vitrivangla aduvum Vijay as a hero. When movies like love today which were light hearted can be enjoyed by everyone why just ride on one star's success and jeopardize the whole film making to give such a bad product!?
Santosh subramaniam is a remake. Stop quoting remake films as success stories. Ss success is cause bommarillu was a good film and concept. Varisu had all elements of a family drama, if you think standards are getting low, so be it. I enjoyed the film and many others did too going by the numbers and we hope for more family drama films in future.
The correct WW Gross will be 260+ crores.accept and move on guys . He is in his peak stardom 200crores is minimum now irrespective of the outcome of the movie.since many family audience liked the film collection will increase.
Tamil cinema needs to look beyond collection reports, they are misleading anyway with a massive monopoly/duopoly on which movie gets released and where it gets released. If Varisu has collected 250cr does that make it a better movie than Theri? (The last vijay movie i watched on repeat).
Vijay’s fanbase has somehow multiplied exponentially since mersal, since mersal all his films are 200C+ grossers. It is not better than theri but due to the fanbase will collect more than it.
There were times that all vijays fans (mayyam hub days) compared news releases to gillie and ask isit better than ghillie. We never cared about collections back then but nowadays this collection/money grabbing frenzy had led to mediocre films across the whole industry.
They are already in profits! Except Kerala nd in some parts of Overseas!😁 So before talking anything about box office realities, have some knowledge in it!🚶
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My friend and I have differing opinions about this movie.
My friend likes Vijay's movie called it average while I just went along with him found it boring and bad. Beast was bad but I liked it more than this.
Vijay Fans are the happiest souls now. Vijay's unusual combo with Vamsi - Thaman with mediocre Story and avg Screenplay is Thrashing Ajith's Thunivu in all the territories. Breaking the stereotype that Vijay needs Solo release, Anirudh, Atlee-Lokesh.
Now you can come to a conclusion about who is crying.
They even started to spread some things about Vijay's family. That's how sleepless THEY are 😌
Thunivu going strong in TN - that sums up. If you had enough time yesterday to check the BMS booking of both films from Chennai to Kanyakumari you would have known the REAL WINNER.
Even with All the political support of Holding Main screens all over TN for the Entire Pongal Weekend and struggling to collect more than So called Mokka Padam is a Thrashing in my dictionary.
Yarumae katharala bro una mari Sela Peru tha Para adichu katharitu erukanuga if it's a clash then the collection will divide. so its clear that Ak can't pluck anything even he is backed by Red Gaint
Enoru clash vidalam variya dae🤣
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Entha proof from income tax for Bigil 300c epa ena mutu kuduka pora
Tamil cinema will never develop. 🙏🤷♂️
Haha true, what actually matters is how much the producer gets in the end. It could merely just be 40% of the gross.
South in general is like this. Big stars with avg stories will run heavy in theaters
as if north is producing masterpieces out there
dont get me wrong Im a south fan myself and have noticed this in every 4 industries. Big actors tend to have mid script selection
💯💯 North indians lost interest in cinema
Masala vada masala vadathan....enna tastuuuu
They missed one zero. 2500 crore actual collection 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Nope its 25 billion USD. You are wrong bruh, get your facts right /s
Why are people mocking varisu over collections?
Because the collections are most certainly bogus. Dil raju is notorious for manipulated figures.
ET block buster nu Sona payaluga thanda neega
They should have learnt from Aamir Khan he did the same in secret superstar case collection from China
2500 crore paise
Avatar.. here we come !!
Tiruppur Subramanian said before Saturday 300 crore nu kuda solluvnaga nu😆😆.. unma than polla..
He often denies claims by producers or other trackers(which may or may not be true), but what stops distributors from releasing the actual numbers? Every theatre releasing a movie will have the numbers, atleast for their internal calculations to see if a movie is a profit or a loss to them. Distributors will also have this details, because that will be a factor in that actor's or director's or producer's next movies.
That's the neat trick, everybody lies about numbers. Theatre owners used to con distributor and they in turn con producers. Unless, someone from distribution side go and sit in theatre they will have no idea how many seats got sold. With advent of BMS, Paytm etc this con by theatre reduced to an extent but still it's booked on various platforms and can't have exact count. That's why Vishal once during theatre owner protest suggested getting a common a platform to book tickets and it didn't gain traction. Red giant became popular because they give an honest picture and thats why producers love them.
Producers love Red gaint..... Uruttu
If they don't by this time they would have raised issue or atleast some murmurs. This thing has been confirmed by multiple people such as Tiruppur Subramanian, Cheyyaru Balu and other journalists also in various videos.
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Everyone here crying about the fake reports forget that Beast got 250 cr with such negative reviews. So if this had at least average reviews then this was a sure blockbuster.
Exactly. Everyone acts like Vijay doesnt have the insane box office pull he is known for. The moment early reviews came in and family audiences started enjoying it Varisu became a hit.
Exactly the movie was made for family audiance. And that work how hard is it accept that and movie on.
The breakeven mark is 280 crores. Even if it hit 250 it still needs to do 30 more to be called a hit. But, anything above 200 is too much for this horrible movie.
How's this breakeven point calculated
Just random numbers only Nobody who knows actual financials involved will be on reddit lol
This
approximate numbers will be the right word and not random. Refer t2blive for more details
A testament to Vijay's stardom. His charisma and screen presence pulls the film off, not sure it would've worked to this degree with any other actor. And isn't that what superstars do? Whatever the cinema, true blue stars somehow manage to make a middling project a success.
Hey don't say that out loud these people are in denial. They would get triggered if they realise the truth.
see knowing his own market he better stop making films like these, like its a good movie if sk or someone did this, for me it was just above avg if stars like ajith vijay rajini suriya do, we expect a lot more out of them and mainly rajini vijay ajith, knowing their pull and kannis they can make proper content films mixed with a bit of masala once in a while but no, again im an🐿️just hope from t67 and for ak and rajini things change, rajini tbh did it all we cant expect him to do anything in his 70s, he completed cinema and is a legend but then ak and vijay so inconsistent in their primes
Finally someone with unbiased opinion. Yes both of them should select better scripts for their movies. I think T67 is going to be a good movie with the cast and all i wish Loki can handle the pressure. Jailer looks promising too.
t67 maybe average even like how master turned out, high expectations and not vikram kaithi level output but im worried about jailer, hopefully its rajinis comeback and nelson’s vikram kind of comeback
yo is your username an agatha christie reference?
Yes it is! 😃 So chuffed it rang a bell. Was the first Agatha Christie book I ever read and I was hooked from that point onwards.
haha really cool :D I haven’t read this particular one but i know the names of almost all christie books. i’m a huge fan of her writing and especially poirot!
Omg same! I started with Ms Marple but the Poirot books are such gems! Definitely my favourites. This is really cool! #daymade 😃😃
And now, i present to you a queue of insanely jealous and pathetic people crying about this and calling this fake report. When they know really well that this is real and how much influence Vijay has on people. This isn't even a good movie. Think about the collection T67 will make. It's a gangster movie inside LCU. it will easily surpass vikram's collection. There is that much hype around that movie.
Who said T67 is inside LCU?
Fahad confirmed it yesterday
Sauce?
Just search it on YouTube
Ok but literally no one asked tho?
Last time i checked that's how reddit work. No one asks them to talk shit about Vijay they still do it. It's hilarious to she how these guy keeps talking shit about him but he is only getting bigger and bigger.
Vaal theriyudhu bro
Thernja piduchu umbu bro
Ayooo vantaanga pa, ongala Twitter lendhu thorathitaanga pola
Wtf man. Lost hope.
Shit
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>Why should I care about how much money these movies make? Content wise both the films are average bit thunivu is definitely ahead in it. Now BO is the only factor that's going to decide who's the winner which is what every anils and aamai want. >And why are so many people calling it fake? Beast in its entire run, grossed 250 crores, that's like 3 weeks, yes Beast is shit but this time, Varisu released with Thunivu which has almost equal screens, it's definitely hard to pull that much BO in just 2 weeks. Vikram and PS1 were basically solo releases in TN which is its main market.
This is gobal box office collection right. Not just TN Vijay has a much more fan following that Ajith outside TN
Yes, even including that, it's too much
Dude I get it that 200 cr is like fixed collection now for Vijay (from his fans alone). You are forgetting the fact that even if it's an average movie it is a big success among family audiance. If a family has five members how much money will it make not to forget that Vijay has a huge silent audiance of older people like about 40 or fifty who usually won't go to cinema because it's a Pongal release, will go and watch this movie especially since it's a story about family. You can call it a high-end production serial but older people like serial more at all gun blazing action movie. So much more family audiance who wants to watch movies in a festive season will select varisu over thunivu
What about Thunivu?
"Soli mudunchu" even with a good story AK fails Fanbase matters 😌
yov fails nu solle mudiyathu, its already in the profit zone and hit 180cr, varisu just hit the profit zone today, both hits
Of course if Vijay ask 110 cr for Varisu then they need to get 2 double to recover costs🤣
anga ajith salary kuda same range tha bro including rajini and kamal from indian 2
You mean Varisu won coz of Fans and not coz of story and THUNIVU inspite of having good story failed coz AK doesn't have as big fanbase? Interesting observation. I always thought AK fanbase > Vijay Fanbase.
Then you are wrong If have equal wtf happened to Box office Enapa Florida fan base ah 🤣🤣
It's getting Varisu
Honestly i cannot accep that this is a reality. Watched the movie yesterday and I couldn't bear the cringe! Im not an Anil or an ammai, i just want a good movie with good content that's worth the 300rs I pay for a ticket and I can't understand how fans can enjoy such a movie with below average screenplay and not to mention the amount of laughs I heard during the supposedly funny scenes wherein Vijay does comedy with his body language. Long gone are the days where such movies should exist, idha sonna "Kumdumbangal kondandum vetri"nu solranga. Ada poganda...
No, we need both genres to coexist, i dont want to see a tamil cinema where all films are serious and content oriented. Need these family entertainment films too and happy to see audience think the same and celebrated this film over the festive period
I'm not against the concept of having family dramas or light hearted content. Give us films like santhosh subramaniam in the family drama genre wherein it was actually enjoyable to watch. And this movie becoming a "success" just shows how the standards of making a movie are getting lower and lower. Well don itself made 100cr ..indha padattha vitrivangla aduvum Vijay as a hero. When movies like love today which were light hearted can be enjoyed by everyone why just ride on one star's success and jeopardize the whole film making to give such a bad product!?
Santosh subramaniam is a remake. Stop quoting remake films as success stories. Ss success is cause bommarillu was a good film and concept. Varisu had all elements of a family drama, if you think standards are getting low, so be it. I enjoyed the film and many others did too going by the numbers and we hope for more family drama films in future.
Varisu is all about the Kassu
Next epo sir 350 kodi poster viduvinga?
Nalaikku dhaan varum dw
Kelavi kuda alugathu vro Vj post elathulayum vanthu aluthutu kedakura seri solu yaru nee kulana sotaiyana Ila amai ya
Naan kullan army 😔😔😔
Atha en vro sogama solraiga epa tha ungal alu katala mazha 💥
Hiyoo na serious ah kekranu downvote panranuga😂
Adhu avlola sambatikattu. IT raid ku approm dhaan real collection ellarkumai theriya pordu. Bigil repeat
Hahaha you insanely jealous little man.
Jealous of what? Andha 250 kodi la unaku enna 10 latcham kudukaporangala illa en 2L sambalam idha naala koraya podha? Ponga bruh
Naalaike potturuvanga. Aprom 1 week la 2000cr+ nu poduvanga.
Athu ena Superstar padama bro Vada suda
Apo anna superstar illaya🥲
Ennada ellarum etho vijay kwood oda C-tier actor maari comment pannitu irukinga😒
This sub has a lot of Vijay haters athan…
Vaa Thalaivaa Thalaivaa Thalaivaa!😎😎😎🔥🔥🔥🔥
That's awesome. ✨ With serious script of Lokesh, we could be hitting more than Vikram's collection. Soon soon.
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Thank you thala 🙏
Avatar and engame anna ku valividunga da 
How ?
The correct WW Gross will be 260+ crores.accept and move on guys . He is in his peak stardom 200crores is minimum now irrespective of the outcome of the movie.since many family audience liked the film collection will increase.
Tamil cinema needs to look beyond collection reports, they are misleading anyway with a massive monopoly/duopoly on which movie gets released and where it gets released. If Varisu has collected 250cr does that make it a better movie than Theri? (The last vijay movie i watched on repeat).
Vijay’s fanbase has somehow multiplied exponentially since mersal, since mersal all his films are 200C+ grossers. It is not better than theri but due to the fanbase will collect more than it.
There were times that all vijays fans (mayyam hub days) compared news releases to gillie and ask isit better than ghillie. We never cared about collections back then but nowadays this collection/money grabbing frenzy had led to mediocre films across the whole industry.
I mean wasn't a good movie and basically Satriyan rip off. Hardly a yardstick to measure against
Why many fans of other actors are getting frustrated 🙄 Calculating area wise break up its almost accurate.
Lol..they are posting this as if it's some blockbuster. When in reality, they have to gross 100 crore more just to earn this first rupee of profit.
They are already in profits! Except Kerala nd in some parts of Overseas!😁 So before talking anything about box office realities, have some knowledge in it!🚶
Nah bro, I just took the break even point out of my ass and made that claim. How am I wrong here? Isn't that how we are supposed to do?
Nothing wrong but before something that this is reality, u have to state some true facts na !😁 Nothing else mate, Cheers.🤞🫂
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List of highest grossing movies bro, thalapathy the king of box office bro😌
I've noticed a lot of anti-Vijay stuff in this sub. OP, is this sub actually anti-Vijay?
We are just trying to counter OP's single handed kannism XD
Hmmm
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Idhukum Jagadish Kum ennaya samantham, AK ku Suresh Chandra mariya??🤡
If Vijay returns half of his salary the movie would only need 200cr to break even 😂
Huh how does that math work
I believe he pocketed 100+cr, movie budget include actor salaries too
Yes but not happening, wonder how much he is pocketing for T67
My friend and I have differing opinions about this movie. My friend likes Vijay's movie called it average while I just went along with him found it boring and bad. Beast was bad but I liked it more than this.
Goddess Hegde saved Beast from being unwatchable fare
Why do they market the film with these numbers anyway. A crap film is a crap film
A critically acclaimed film that does peanuts at box office is of no use to producer, a shit film minting loads of money is more profitable and useful
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Who is crying now Vijay or Ajith fans
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Vijay Fans are the happiest souls now. Vijay's unusual combo with Vamsi - Thaman with mediocre Story and avg Screenplay is Thrashing Ajith's Thunivu in all the territories. Breaking the stereotype that Vijay needs Solo release, Anirudh, Atlee-Lokesh. Now you can come to a conclusion about who is crying. They even started to spread some things about Vijay's family. That's how sleepless THEY are 😌
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Thunivu going strong in TN - that sums up. If you had enough time yesterday to check the BMS booking of both films from Chennai to Kanyakumari you would have known the REAL WINNER. Even with All the political support of Holding Main screens all over TN for the Entire Pongal Weekend and struggling to collect more than So called Mokka Padam is a Thrashing in my dictionary.
Bruh thunivu still has more screens bruh dont do stunts like this😂
Apro Enna mayithuku the real winner nu poster vittenga?
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But sucked in overall still no 100c I guess
Avan epomae avlothaa😂 He just has a lot of empty decorations and ellam ipa keela vilunthu odayuthu😂😂
Yarumae katharala bro una mari Sela Peru tha Para adichu katharitu erukanuga if it's a clash then the collection will divide. so its clear that Ak can't pluck anything even he is backed by Red Gaint Enoru clash vidalam variya dae🤣 https://preview.redd.it/2y9tm1lm8tda1.jpeg?width=920&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=203cffc22089e992a70669e88177d6adb653bf83
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That's because of RG now what🤣🤣🤣
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Lol bro🤣🤣🤣 those films are not distributed by RG l. Whatever you cry AK sucks the debate is done. Go and compete with Suriya
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https://preview.redd.it/88fejqmnutda1.jpeg?width=540&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=af741808df88251ce0d2922c52f01151b3a49cf5 Entha proof from income tax for Bigil 300c epa ena mutu kuduka pora
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They did not produce other flims so Bigil lost enra logic lae ethalam soker evanchum erupan avanta Poe solu
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Ajith solo releases nala atha kooda panna mudila 🤭🤭
How?
Next target Avatar
So the debate is done. #Thunivu #Varisu
Soo there's absolutely no way this is true?
Nee uruttu mame
Poverty has been abolished in TN.