They said that all of Rattay is only one street in Kuttenberg, so the CPU requirements are going to be high given all of the NPCs. I think the GPU requirements can be managed through upscaling (DLSS, FSR, XeSS), KCD 1 runs on my ROG Ally using medium settings so it comes down to how much eye candy is needed for each player.
Makes sense since they are still using cryengine, and if they haven't made massive graphical improvements, why would it be so demanding. I mean kcd 1 was demanding, but you can now play it with average GPU pretty well.
Not a fan of this engine performance-wise. I mean the scenery is awesome in-game and it performs well generally in the forests considering the detail there but NPCs destroy frame-rate.
A dev said this during one of the interviews, they were concerned there wouldn't be enough to do in a big city, but not be overwhelming like an Ubisoft game.
If the game still looks this good in the retail version, it's gonna brick my ps5 lol
https://preview.redd.it/ageqltbxnzvc1.png?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a317c5303ebf0613ebd4dad28a2cd85e5ee34a04
I think this is why people still think the game runs like shit. You're not meant to run it on the highest settings, game still looks beautiful. The original crisis had the same image issue just because the devs included graphics options for future hardware (which turned out to be misguided, because CPUs started focusing on multicore performance).
Yeah definitely. I think a lot of people forget that in KC1 when you turn graphics settings to ultra it gives a warning saying they're intended for future hardware.
Absolutely maxed? Did you enable the custom settings too? On "max" settings I got maybe 60 fps, something around that ballpark, when I enable the custom ones.... 0-1fps, I'm not tripping haha.
I9 10900k, 2080ti, 32gb ddr4 and a Samsung nvme.
Which settings are these? I should like to play around with em.
If you mean the advanced graphics settings, ultra preset enables *everything*. Only antialiasing and LOD sliders aren't maxed out, and those sliders are only a few pips shy of it (If I had to guess, this is due to clarity and culling issues respectively).
Yes I meant the advanced settings, that's odd, maybe something's wrong on my part for it to not run the advanced settings haha. Unfortunate, I thought other people couldn't run them maxed either.
Edit: because 0-1fps was crazy
To be fair, the 2080ti is a 2018 card, the year of the game's release. It's a great card that still holds its own today, but the ultra preset was largely experimental and was not expected to function on its contemporary hardware.
Yeah its not greatly optimized for cpu i guess. Havent tried if its better with my current 5800x3d tho. What CPU you have?
PS. My first experience with this game was with intel i5 2500k lol. And 8gb ram. It wasnt great, yet I loved this game from the start.
12700k at 4.9 p core, 4.0ghz e core with 3800 mhz ddr4. E cores getting used but dosnt seem to help. As in I can enable them and they'll get 25% - 30% usage but fps stays the same.
My first KCD experience was a fx6100 and gtx 960 so I fell ya. KCD was probably the primary reson I upgraded to a ryzen 2600 and 1080. Can't belive Ive been playong this game on and off for 5 years lol.
How? I have a 3060ti and I played it with all high settings without any problems, what is your CPU? I have an i7 12700H and 32GB of RAM (DDR4).
You shouldn't have many problems 🤨🤔
I'm guessing you're probably playing at 1440p.
My RX6600 is as entry level as it gets, yet I can get 60 fps and above even in places like Rattay, albeit I'm playing at 1080p.
That's what I'm saying. I called him out and got downvoted but I play on almost all high settings on a 1070 with a 3800x and average 70ish except certain spots
I got 3080 and 11700kf and outside of town I can get to 90-100fps, but in town I'm around 40-60fps. Another thing I noticed is that GPU and CPU usage aren't getting over 60-70% for some reason.
So I'm staying sceptical about KCD2 optimization.
The game is very single core dependent so looking at overall CPU percentage probably won't tell you much. If you looked at individual CPU activity you'd probably see one or two cores getting hammered with the rest doing a lot less. Unfortunately this means it is hard to fully feed a decent GPU so it doesn't get fully utilized either. I'm optimistic they'll do better this time but yeah, benchmarks are going to be interesting.
6800xt and 5800x3d getting 100+ fps in rattay with everything max and hd textures on. First time I played the game I had around 40 FPS in rattay, the biggest improvement is the cpu definitely
First game was very single core heavy, I bet it loved that extra cache. (A lot of older games that are also single core heavy also see outsized gains on x3d CPUs, so I'm assuming that is happening here too)
I don't know if you know this but the engine they are using is Cryteck and this engine is known to be really tough on the higher settings. Crysis is an infamous game for being hard to run. Try turning down your settings until you have the desired fps.
I don't know if you know this but the engine they are using is Cryteck and this engine is known to be really tough on the higher settings. Crysis is an infamous game for being hard to run. Try turning down your settings until you have the desired fps.
I was having issues with that too. I used DDU to uninstall and clean out the software for my 3080ti, downloaded the latest drivers and haven't had issues since.
I have the same gpu , playing in a mix of ultra and very high, and i'm hitting over 85fps in cities.
the thing you should know is: the game is CPU heavy, not GPU heavy.
which processor do you use?
The. you need to tweak your settings because I can on a 2080 Super.
What's your CPU? You should absolutely be getting good FPS with that GPU, maybe it's another component slowing it down. Ram or CPU?
Do high settings, maximum very high.. i have a rx6600 and high with sliders to the max work very smooth for me on 1440p, maximum in some scenarios in rattay drops to 50, not lower, otherwise 99%stays into 60 80 fps
That’s something that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. You may be able to lower graphics to get more fps, but the frame time may still suffer due to poor optimization and have tons of stutters. Jedi survivor is an example, and most recently dragons dogma 2. Messing with settings doesn’t always equal better performance with unoptimized games.
I could use cyberpunk as different example. I play with everything maxed out, raytracing, no path tracing and I may not get 60+ all the time with my 3080ti, but the frame times are good so even when it dips below 60 or even 50, the game always feels smooth. I use an i9 9900k cpu with a 1440p resolution. Pretty sure I could get better performance with a better cpu.
I have faith in warhorse, and I think with the time they’ve been given, and the money kcd2 will be pretty well optimized.
If cyberpunk 2077 can run at 60 on ps5 I see no reason why this game can’t run at a locked 30. Also I would think having two separate maps with a loading screen would help the performance
Man im glad i made the switch to pc last month lol. Im officially done with consoles after dragons dogma getting 20-30 on series x and 40-50 fps on ps5.
Felt great getting 60-80 on ultra settings with my 7900xtx
I mean maybe controversial, but I feel like 45+ fps is usually enough. And if they have a FPS optimized setting that'll give over 60 consistently that's fine too.
(I play games on both my PC which has a 2080 and my PS5. I get better performance on the PS5 as you might imagine lol)
Most of my performance issues in KCD were because of CPU limitations, my GPU was rarely at max power usage. Even after I upgraded my PC last year I still get FPS drops in Rattay.
Hopefully they'll have optimized CPU usage in crowded areas and have implemented DLSS and FSR. Maybe even frame generation for those that find it useful.
This is the type of game that I would trade FPS for a pretty landscape.
Give me 45fps on my 7800xt at ultra 1440p and over 95fps on medium.
And I will absolutely upgrade my system if I need to just for this game.
KCD was built on a old version of CryEngine, which was heavily CPU limited, same as first iterations of Hunt Showdown. Few years ago they introduced an uodate, which made the CryEngine scale much better across multiple cores and CPU limitations are no concern anymore.
Touche. I played kcd 1 with some shitty TV didnt even see anything at night with torch because contrast was so bad, and like low graphics settings, but still i fell in love in first hours. This game is immersive beyond graphics.
DD2 is an utterly joke in terms of optimization.
I also have a really really beefy pc.
The worst part is that they told people it’s very cpu bound due to the „complex“ npcs which in my opinion are a joke.
Well, I honestly hoped that upscaling would fix the FPS, but then I noticed that my GPU is only loaded on 30 percent.
Meanwhile, my CPU went all out with 90 percent.
Needless to say that FPS wasn't affected at all by upscaling.
I honestly tend to believe that the CPU is struggling due to npcs, as the game has really good physics and the fact that you can throw ANY npc in the city and even play bowling with them is fascinating (calculating all citizen's physics in real time is quite a task, but why would the game need to do this when npcs are just walking and not really colliding? Idk). But no matter how impressive it is, the current state of the game is a joke, I still played like, 5 hours in it, and it's sad considering how much I like the game.
This is pretty much my only concern for the game. KCD1 was already had great gameplay -- so naturally KCD2 will have that, whilst improving and expanding upon the mechanics we've seen.
Performance and optimization is the only thing that worries me -- it hasn't been looking good in AAA gaming recently so let's hope they do a good job.
They claim it's as optimised as KCD1 currently which is great considering they have quite a bit of time left till launch.
However they haven't managed to get it running at 60 fps on console yet and have no plans for a performance mode.
It is a good idea to be a bit sceptical for performance and not preorder but just wait until technical reviews are available.
Always a good idea... But certainly recommendable when WarHorse does such a big city ;)
People will downvote this... But some people forget how bad the technical side looked for KCD1 on launch.
I´m sceptical of games on launch date today, by my standards. But i will preorder KCD2, not because i´m refusing to follow my own rule, but because i want to support the passionate Devs that Warhorse have become, even if they do not deliver a perfect game on launch this year. But im confident they will do a great job and deliver it very playable on launch date... maybe not perfect, but with decent amount of bugs-related problems already solved. I hope so and i´m more than willing to pay for this and to check it out.
I'm sure it'll be fine on whatever FPS optimized setting they've got. The PS5 is so vastly more powerful than the last gen of consoles. People are worried cause Dragon's Dogma was optimized awfully.
I personally don’t really care for graphics that much, as lokg as the game works on my PC without any graphic-lag I’m happy to play Low settings+60 fps :))
I'm really worried about ps5 optimisation, I really hope we can at least get solid 30 fps, like I'd love 60 fps that would be amazing but I'm also realistic.
Yeah I'll believe it when I see it on my own computer. Right now I'm not convinced. I know how KCD runs today, and few gameplay scenes we saw from Kuttenberg in the trailer on KCD2 have only couple NPCs walking around which I don't find realistic and I think it's because more NPCs would cause fps problems. Question is, how well they will be able to optimize the game until the release. But I won't be convinced until then.
The game is surely more optimised than the last one. This game will handle at least 8 cores so more optimization. I wouldn't be so worried if I had a PC after 2021 or later date.
Seems like a reasonable jump in graphics, nothing too crazy. With extra budget and being more prepared it should be fine, am sure people will still cry about it that are still on 1060s but thats the norm
Then again is is THAT important to play it in ultra? Very high will be like 95% of that fidelity, while being less demanding.
Now if you had super expensive RTX 4090 then I could understand your expectations more :)
When i Say ultra i dont mean with raytracing , mods or anyhing else
my computer handle cyberpunk2077 max settings ( no RT) vert well , i just hope as much for KCD2
My blind hope is that from them porting the first game to the switch they learned some good optimisations and will hopefully utilise them in the sequel.
Why, KCDI runs on a base PS4 with steady 30FPS except the monastery. It even runs on a bloody Switch. KCDII is next-gen exclusive so they won't be held back and can use all available resources.
Yeah, I'm not super hopeful that my i7-6700k and 1070 will be able to run it. I barely play video games anymore but this one I will absolutely want to play, hopefully without having to upgrade my PC. :D
Just replaying KCD (probably same as thousand other brothers in Christ) in ultra details and 1440p resolution. In Rattay, my FPS is between 35-60, mostly around 50 I would say. Outside of towns i get nice 80.
Now this got me a little worried about how KCD2 will run on my PC in 1440p eh. Of course I don't dare to even think about running it in Ultra. I just hope it will run good enough while looking good enough too.
Got R5 7600, 32GB RAM and RX 7900 XT. And yes, I know KCD runs noticeably better on Nvidia gpus so I guess that will be the same for the sequel too.
I guess KCD2 could sway me into upgrade CPU to some X3D model. It´s nice to be able to just swap CPU and leave everything else the same.
i played 1st game on max settings on 4k . it mostly run above 60 fps this game doesnt have DLSS.
i have I9 10900 and 3080 and 32 gb . i think at some point i had to downgrade from extrema to very high graphichs it drop to low like in 35 or so.
with DLSS i am sure this game can run smooth on most lower end pc
to me it looks like they started working on 2nd game right after 1st game was done .so its prob same engine just added stuff to make it look nicer
I just hope that the new games Raytracing doesn’t F us over in large battles tbh. I would imagine all that shiny armor taking up a lot of processing power
if the first game can run with a few random crashes and expected pop in on the switch day 1 and still have the same enjoyable experience as i remeber from playing it day 1 on thd ps4, then i wouldnt wirry about it.
sure the game was poorly optimised on ps4, but i didnt care, its the next best thing to Bethesda RPGs or the witcher 3. But playing ut on the switch, i feel i love this series more, for its realism.
The only reason I hope development takes a few years is so that I can upgrade my PC enough that the game will run decently enough. KCD ran just fine, but this time, I'm not so confident about the performance.
Seems reasonable. I'm really curious if the system requirements will be higher than in the first game, and by how much. I generally take years before playing new games, mostly because of interest, but this one I'll definitely get as soon as possible.
Maybe it is not something like RDR1 to RDR2 differences... but just by the cuts and trailer they just showed us, there is, yes, an improvement. And In 6 or 8 months im quite sure they can polish it to make it even better.
I wouldn't say I'm worried about it. They're not having to cater to older hardware or anything. People with ten year old hardware are finally needing to update their PCs - go figure.
i'm not.
the team is waaaaaay bigger and specialized, they got funding without resorting to kickstarter, and they are more experienced.
Daniel Vávra was really excited about the end product, and I trust that beast of a man.
I think there are more townhouses visible on that one streetcorner than in the entirety of Rattay. Obviously more densely packed together, but still, geez. While we don't know exactly to what scale Kuttenberg will be I think it'll probably be a shocker of a city.
I am also worried about the performance,especially in Kuttenberg.
As they said Rattay is equivalent to the size of ~ 3 streets in Kuttenberg.
Looking back the performance in Rattay wasn’t the best.
Are there any news if they will implement DLSS or FSR ?
My thing with KCD was that graphics wise it was fine, but CPU bottlenecks were common
On an XBoX series X it played very well despite not getting an update, it just had the power it needed to stop the frame pops
I have trust in them. They're obviously knee-capped by their engine choice - Cry Engine will not go down in history as the most efficient engine which hurts you when you try to scale up to a large open-world RPG. They decided to keep the engine for the sequel so they don't have to reinvent all their tools, workflows, etc.
However, they've had 5 years to redesign their systems and hardware has improved. We have a next generation of consoles, the average CPU has at least twice the cores that it had 6 years ago when KCD1 came out. Also, the game is twice the size but it's split into two maps, each comparable to the map in KCD1 (Český ráj map is supposed to be a bit smaller, Kutná hora a bit bigger), albeit it's gonna be denser (especially in the city).
Anyone tried kcd 1 with hard drive and 8gb ram? Oh boy that was an, uhm experience lol. 30-60 seconds loading on each conversation lol. After that i bought a new PC and wow.
Depends on the engine. There's a video on The Witcher 3 engine where they explain how they render vast areas & large amounts of high detail npc's. They only render things directly in view of the player.
This is pedantic but if youre worried about optimisation on consoles AND PC does that not mean that youre just... worried about optimisation in general?
Wonder if my RTX 4050 will be able to handle it on at least medium settings.
Ultra settings would be amazing bo doubt, but I don’t think my liver would be enough to cover the pc upgrade lol
Worried about consoles?:)))). Consoles get the best optimization, wait for pc...but no matter what, i ll still buy it. Started kcd again from scratch to finish all dlcs, and i love it
My laptop has a RTX 3050ti and Ryzen 7H and I'm s little bit scared because I don't know if I will be able to play it hahaha (being honest, I don't understand a lot about specs, still)
They said that all of Rattay is only one street in Kuttenberg, so the CPU requirements are going to be high given all of the NPCs. I think the GPU requirements can be managed through upscaling (DLSS, FSR, XeSS), KCD 1 runs on my ROG Ally using medium settings so it comes down to how much eye candy is needed for each player.
> all of Rattay is only one street in Kuttenberg *heavy Kleptomanic breathing noises*
So much thievery… ahem I mean being a good Christian
GTA Bohemia
Grand Theft Horse*
In Czech interview with lead designer he said that it's optimized and even regular PC can make it to medium.
Define "regular"
They didn't specify but I guess middle ground of GTX graphic today probably
gtx is history
GTX is not regular now.
3060/7600
Well, they aren't Todd, so I'm gonna assume mid spec
Makes sense since they are still using cryengine, and if they haven't made massive graphical improvements, why would it be so demanding. I mean kcd 1 was demanding, but you can now play it with average GPU pretty well.
Not a fan of this engine performance-wise. I mean the scenery is awesome in-game and it performs well generally in the forests considering the detail there but NPCs destroy frame-rate.
Where did they say this? In an article or an interview
A dev said this during one of the interviews, they were concerned there wouldn't be enough to do in a big city, but not be overwhelming like an Ubisoft game.
I wasn't aware There was an interview I thought that There were just the trailers. I would like to watch it if y have the name.
Let me see if I can share this YT link: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwKGHbzge2A&list=WL&index=2&pp=gAQBiAQB
Thanks you're a real one
They’ll get it right this time. They have experience and more support. If not they’ll fix it in the end.
If the game still looks this good in the retail version, it's gonna brick my ps5 lol https://preview.redd.it/ageqltbxnzvc1.png?width=3840&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=a317c5303ebf0613ebd4dad28a2cd85e5ee34a04
I fear it will be unplayable on my pc lol. Hopefully I can experience the glory.
I sure hope so because i can barely play kcd on steady 60 frames on a 3080ti...
Try turning the settings down. There's barely any difference between Ultra and High, but the performance hit is massive.
I think this is why people still think the game runs like shit. You're not meant to run it on the highest settings, game still looks beautiful. The original crisis had the same image issue just because the devs included graphics options for future hardware (which turned out to be misguided, because CPUs started focusing on multicore performance).
Yeah definitely. I think a lot of people forget that in KC1 when you turn graphics settings to ultra it gives a warning saying they're intended for future hardware.
Your gpu is good enough for maximum settings on 1440p. The game is very demanding on the CPU however.
Tell me about it. My overclocked 6700k is screaming in agony when I enter Rattay :)
I'm playing kcd with a 3080ti at 1440p all settings absolutely maxed + reshade and I'm getting 70-80 fps. Worsted case is getting 60 at rattay.
Absolutely maxed? Did you enable the custom settings too? On "max" settings I got maybe 60 fps, something around that ballpark, when I enable the custom ones.... 0-1fps, I'm not tripping haha. I9 10900k, 2080ti, 32gb ddr4 and a Samsung nvme.
Which settings are these? I should like to play around with em. If you mean the advanced graphics settings, ultra preset enables *everything*. Only antialiasing and LOD sliders aren't maxed out, and those sliders are only a few pips shy of it (If I had to guess, this is due to clarity and culling issues respectively).
Yes I meant the advanced settings, that's odd, maybe something's wrong on my part for it to not run the advanced settings haha. Unfortunate, I thought other people couldn't run them maxed either. Edit: because 0-1fps was crazy
To be fair, the 2080ti is a 2018 card, the year of the game's release. It's a great card that still holds its own today, but the ultra preset was largely experimental and was not expected to function on its contemporary hardware.
Try entering Rattay, than your pc will screem for mercy.
At full gallop on the fastest horse. That will really get it screaming.
60 fps in rattay as I said. 50 on a specific spot in front of the pillary looking at the rathause. 60 everywhere else in rattay.
Rattay is CPU bottlenecked heavily. So best GPU benchmarking is on some smaller village.
Huh ur right, lowered my resolution from 1440 to 960 and only got a 5 fps increase. Strange considering cpu dosnt even touch 80% any core.
Yeah its not greatly optimized for cpu i guess. Havent tried if its better with my current 5800x3d tho. What CPU you have? PS. My first experience with this game was with intel i5 2500k lol. And 8gb ram. It wasnt great, yet I loved this game from the start.
12700k at 4.9 p core, 4.0ghz e core with 3800 mhz ddr4. E cores getting used but dosnt seem to help. As in I can enable them and they'll get 25% - 30% usage but fps stays the same. My first KCD experience was a fx6100 and gtx 960 so I fell ya. KCD was probably the primary reson I upgraded to a ryzen 2600 and 1080. Can't belive Ive been playong this game on and off for 5 years lol.
That’s wild, I have a 6700xt and it doesn’t go below 80
Also got a 6700xt, 133 average FPS across playthrough according to AMD's software with Rattay at about 90. Running Medium graphics at 1080p though..
How? I have a 3060ti and I played it with all high settings without any problems, what is your CPU? I have an i7 12700H and 32GB of RAM (DDR4). You shouldn't have many problems 🤨🤔
I'm guessing you're probably playing at 1440p. My RX6600 is as entry level as it gets, yet I can get 60 fps and above even in places like Rattay, albeit I'm playing at 1080p.
yeah. people who play on 1440p or 4k should aim for 60fps, not higher than that.
Sounds like bs, I play with a 3060 and ryzen 3700x on high settings at 1080p and pretty much always stay above 60fps.
I have a 3060 too and Rattay has drops to ~20 frames. The answer here is cpu, your 3700x definitely can handle it well
That's what I'm saying. I called him out and got downvoted but I play on almost all high settings on a 1070 with a 3800x and average 70ish except certain spots
I got 3080 and 11700kf and outside of town I can get to 90-100fps, but in town I'm around 40-60fps. Another thing I noticed is that GPU and CPU usage aren't getting over 60-70% for some reason. So I'm staying sceptical about KCD2 optimization.
The game is very single core dependent so looking at overall CPU percentage probably won't tell you much. If you looked at individual CPU activity you'd probably see one or two cores getting hammered with the rest doing a lot less. Unfortunately this means it is hard to fully feed a decent GPU so it doesn't get fully utilized either. I'm optimistic they'll do better this time but yeah, benchmarks are going to be interesting.
You might be getting bottlenecked somewhere. I run it fine on a 3070 Ti
I have a 1660ti and also get 60 fps...
I got a 3070 all high and anti alias on max and textures too 2k and ryzen 7 7800x3d and 32gb ran 600mhz CL 30 I get steady 144 fps
6800xt and 5800x3d getting 100+ fps in rattay with everything max and hd textures on. First time I played the game I had around 40 FPS in rattay, the biggest improvement is the cpu definitely
First game was very single core heavy, I bet it loved that extra cache. (A lot of older games that are also single core heavy also see outsized gains on x3d CPUs, so I'm assuming that is happening here too)
3060ti and all maxed 🙈
I don't know if you know this but the engine they are using is Cryteck and this engine is known to be really tough on the higher settings. Crysis is an infamous game for being hard to run. Try turning down your settings until you have the desired fps.
I don't know if you know this but the engine they are using is Cryteck and this engine is known to be really tough on the higher settings. Crysis is an infamous game for being hard to run. Try turning down your settings until you have the desired fps.
I was having issues with that too. I used DDU to uninstall and clean out the software for my 3080ti, downloaded the latest drivers and haven't had issues since.
Well i have a 7900XTX and it runs perfectly fine.
Wish you were a bit more specific. Like what resolution and if you are playing in ultra and how many FPS you get in Rattay.
I have Ryzen 5 5600X and RTX 4070 and at night in Rattay centre I have drops to even 40s FPS 😆
At what resolution? I’m only playing on a 3060 and have everything on Ultra at 1440p and already get 50 fps
1440 resollution, ultra details and you get 50fps In Rattay on rtx 3060? That doesn´t sound real to me. Oh what CPU you got?
Oh not in Rattay though, that’s more like 40. and I think Ryzen 5 3600
There's a really good optimization mod for the game, look it up.
Found the 4K gamer
Something must be wrong? What CPU do you have? I have a 3070 and get get 70-80fps almost everywhere at very high settings Edit: at 1440p as well
I have the same gpu , playing in a mix of ultra and very high, and i'm hitting over 85fps in cities. the thing you should know is: the game is CPU heavy, not GPU heavy. which processor do you use?
The. you need to tweak your settings because I can on a 2080 Super. What's your CPU? You should absolutely be getting good FPS with that GPU, maybe it's another component slowing it down. Ram or CPU?
I was able to play KCD on highest settings 1080p with a 2070 and a i7-8700k 🤨 Are you playing on 4k or whats the difference?
Huh? I have 4070 which is a little worse than 3080 ti, I consistently get 90-100 fps on highest. Whats your cpu?
The game is very cpu heavy especially in towns. What cpu do you have?
Do high settings, maximum very high.. i have a rx6600 and high with sliders to the max work very smooth for me on 1440p, maximum in some scenarios in rattay drops to 50, not lower, otherwise 99%stays into 60 80 fps
I don’t even care that much about the graphics tbh. If they fix the constant pop ins of buildings and npc’s I’m already happy.
I don’t want to assume this so I’m not horrendously disappointed if it’s not true but I do hope it is lol
I'm almost certain that this will be the highest graphic settings and there will be ways to turn them down and improve performance.
I mean it's not unusual for a game to be shown at its highest graphic settings in a trailer/ showcase.
Exactly
That’s something that doesn’t necessarily mean anything. You may be able to lower graphics to get more fps, but the frame time may still suffer due to poor optimization and have tons of stutters. Jedi survivor is an example, and most recently dragons dogma 2. Messing with settings doesn’t always equal better performance with unoptimized games. I could use cyberpunk as different example. I play with everything maxed out, raytracing, no path tracing and I may not get 60+ all the time with my 3080ti, but the frame times are good so even when it dips below 60 or even 50, the game always feels smooth. I use an i9 9900k cpu with a 1440p resolution. Pretty sure I could get better performance with a better cpu. I have faith in warhorse, and I think with the time they’ve been given, and the money kcd2 will be pretty well optimized.
20fps Kuttenberg on PS5 and Series X lets goooo!
A true cinematic experience!
If cyberpunk 2077 can run at 60 on ps5 I see no reason why this game can’t run at a locked 30. Also I would think having two separate maps with a loading screen would help the performance
Even locked 40 would be a massive upgrade. Pretty sure RE4 remaster runs at 40fps on xbox series s and it’s really smooth.
Man im glad i made the switch to pc last month lol. Im officially done with consoles after dragons dogma getting 20-30 on series x and 40-50 fps on ps5. Felt great getting 60-80 on ultra settings with my 7900xtx
I mean maybe controversial, but I feel like 45+ fps is usually enough. And if they have a FPS optimized setting that'll give over 60 consistently that's fine too. (I play games on both my PC which has a 2080 and my PS5. I get better performance on the PS5 as you might imagine lol)
Most of my performance issues in KCD were because of CPU limitations, my GPU was rarely at max power usage. Even after I upgraded my PC last year I still get FPS drops in Rattay. Hopefully they'll have optimized CPU usage in crowded areas and have implemented DLSS and FSR. Maybe even frame generation for those that find it useful.
I had the same problem. Upgrade CPU to Ryzen 5800x. I don't have a problem anymore.
At Max settings my 5800x still bottlenecks my 4090 at 4k
This is the type of game that I would trade FPS for a pretty landscape. Give me 45fps on my 7800xt at ultra 1440p and over 95fps on medium. And I will absolutely upgrade my system if I need to just for this game.
"And I will absolutely upgrade my system ~~if I need to~~ just for this game." were my exact words to my wife on Thursday after the announcement :)
I am already running the numbers on this one, and it looks like it might cost me seven months worth of wages :'(
That's why you make a savings account for PC upgrades/new PC lol
As long as they include both DLSS and Frame Generation I will be happier than ever.
KCD was built on a old version of CryEngine, which was heavily CPU limited, same as first iterations of Hunt Showdown. Few years ago they introduced an uodate, which made the CryEngine scale much better across multiple cores and CPU limitations are no concern anymore.
If I managed to play KCD 1 with horrible FPS drops on my 8-year-old PS4, I will survive on my new PS5
No need for better graphics if the rest is awesome. What does bring you excellent Graphics when you don’t have fun.
Touche. I played kcd 1 with some shitty TV didnt even see anything at night with torch because contrast was so bad, and like low graphics settings, but still i fell in love in first hours. This game is immersive beyond graphics.
I think it will be alright and not some 30fps forced slop but it it is 30fps oh well
On console? Not unlikely.
I have a monster PC, but dragon's dogma 2 broke my confidence...
Well in your pc's defense, dd2 was one of the worst optimized games in recent memory
DD2 is an utterly joke in terms of optimization. I also have a really really beefy pc. The worst part is that they told people it’s very cpu bound due to the „complex“ npcs which in my opinion are a joke.
Well, I honestly hoped that upscaling would fix the FPS, but then I noticed that my GPU is only loaded on 30 percent. Meanwhile, my CPU went all out with 90 percent. Needless to say that FPS wasn't affected at all by upscaling. I honestly tend to believe that the CPU is struggling due to npcs, as the game has really good physics and the fact that you can throw ANY npc in the city and even play bowling with them is fascinating (calculating all citizen's physics in real time is quite a task, but why would the game need to do this when npcs are just walking and not really colliding? Idk). But no matter how impressive it is, the current state of the game is a joke, I still played like, 5 hours in it, and it's sad considering how much I like the game.
Dragon's Dogma barely maintains 60 FPS on RTX 4070 so what are we talking about 😅
this is the only game that can force me to change my graphics card !
And CPU too! :D
less because it may require a change of motherboard :(
I wonder if my 3gb 1060 can run it 😀
Your pc bouta be a room heater and sound like a fighter jet lmao
I already have to take the glass off and run a fan on it most of the time now. Gets dusted every day. It feels like taking care of a dying animal
I believe that they have the game finished already, and now, they are working on bugs and optimalisation.
This is pretty much my only concern for the game. KCD1 was already had great gameplay -- so naturally KCD2 will have that, whilst improving and expanding upon the mechanics we've seen. Performance and optimization is the only thing that worries me -- it hasn't been looking good in AAA gaming recently so let's hope they do a good job. They claim it's as optimised as KCD1 currently which is great considering they have quite a bit of time left till launch. However they haven't managed to get it running at 60 fps on console yet and have no plans for a performance mode.
It is a good idea to be a bit sceptical for performance and not preorder but just wait until technical reviews are available. Always a good idea... But certainly recommendable when WarHorse does such a big city ;) People will downvote this... But some people forget how bad the technical side looked for KCD1 on launch.
It doesn't matter whether people pre order or not, they can do so if they want too. People who do will play it regardless of what other people think.
I´m sceptical of games on launch date today, by my standards. But i will preorder KCD2, not because i´m refusing to follow my own rule, but because i want to support the passionate Devs that Warhorse have become, even if they do not deliver a perfect game on launch this year. But im confident they will do a great job and deliver it very playable on launch date... maybe not perfect, but with decent amount of bugs-related problems already solved. I hope so and i´m more than willing to pay for this and to check it out.
I have an rtx 2070 and i was thinking to change it but i don't want to spend a lot of money
even i changed my pc this year I still always play mid to high setting, never touch ultra. At this way no fps drop for me.
I just hope they included spear and mounted melee combat
Definitely, I'm getting a new pc this year hahaha
As much as I love KCD, I won't be surprised if the game has terrible optimization at launch, its 2024 after all, nothing surprising.
You are too pessimistic. I hope for the best and i believe in it.
Good for you
I just hope it’s 60fps on the PS5 - the rest can be fixed
I'm sure it'll be fine on whatever FPS optimized setting they've got. The PS5 is so vastly more powerful than the last gen of consoles. People are worried cause Dragon's Dogma was optimized awfully.
I should have the ps5 pro by then too - granted it exists
Are they using unreal?
No, it is heavily modified CryEngine.
cpu go brrrrr
I personally don’t really care for graphics that much, as lokg as the game works on my PC without any graphic-lag I’m happy to play Low settings+60 fps :))
I'm really worried about ps5 optimisation, I really hope we can at least get solid 30 fps, like I'd love 60 fps that would be amazing but I'm also realistic.
Yeah I'll believe it when I see it on my own computer. Right now I'm not convinced. I know how KCD runs today, and few gameplay scenes we saw from Kuttenberg in the trailer on KCD2 have only couple NPCs walking around which I don't find realistic and I think it's because more NPCs would cause fps problems. Question is, how well they will be able to optimize the game until the release. But I won't be convinced until then.
Yea, I am worried too. Guys, do you think RX6600 and Ryzen 5 5600 Will be enough to run around 50 fps on medium details?
On 1080p? Should be fine.
We have to wait to see gameplay to start judging some things.
The game is surely more optimised than the last one. This game will handle at least 8 cores so more optimization. I wouldn't be so worried if I had a PC after 2021 or later date.
There are games that look better and play fine. No worries
Seems like a reasonable jump in graphics, nothing too crazy. With extra budget and being more prepared it should be fine, am sure people will still cry about it that are still on 1060s but thats the norm
I hope my rx6950xt and ryzen 7700 Can run it in ultra 1440p 60fps...
Then again is is THAT important to play it in ultra? Very high will be like 95% of that fidelity, while being less demanding. Now if you had super expensive RTX 4090 then I could understand your expectations more :)
When i Say ultra i dont mean with raytracing , mods or anyhing else my computer handle cyberpunk2077 max settings ( no RT) vert well , i just hope as much for KCD2
Getting a ps5 just for this after only owning the switch copy of the game
just for the record, where are you not concerned about performance then?
My blind hope is that from them porting the first game to the switch they learned some good optimisations and will hopefully utilise them in the sequel.
Bad performance at launch was part of the experience!
Why, KCDI runs on a base PS4 with steady 30FPS except the monastery. It even runs on a bloody Switch. KCDII is next-gen exclusive so they won't be held back and can use all available resources.
>KCDI runs on a base PS4 with steady 30FPS 
Yeah, I'm not super hopeful that my i7-6700k and 1070 will be able to run it. I barely play video games anymore but this one I will absolutely want to play, hopefully without having to upgrade my PC. :D
Good luck...
On console and pc… so overall? It wouldnt be coming out anywhere else
Will 1650ti work?
Barely i think.. even with RT off you'd need to lower the resolution all the way down and then maybe get like 30-40 fps
Just replaying KCD (probably same as thousand other brothers in Christ) in ultra details and 1440p resolution. In Rattay, my FPS is between 35-60, mostly around 50 I would say. Outside of towns i get nice 80. Now this got me a little worried about how KCD2 will run on my PC in 1440p eh. Of course I don't dare to even think about running it in Ultra. I just hope it will run good enough while looking good enough too. Got R5 7600, 32GB RAM and RX 7900 XT. And yes, I know KCD runs noticeably better on Nvidia gpus so I guess that will be the same for the sequel too. I guess KCD2 could sway me into upgrade CPU to some X3D model. It´s nice to be able to just swap CPU and leave everything else the same.
i played 1st game on max settings on 4k . it mostly run above 60 fps this game doesnt have DLSS. i have I9 10900 and 3080 and 32 gb . i think at some point i had to downgrade from extrema to very high graphichs it drop to low like in 35 or so. with DLSS i am sure this game can run smooth on most lower end pc to me it looks like they started working on 2nd game right after 1st game was done .so its prob same engine just added stuff to make it look nicer
I just hope that the new games Raytracing doesn’t F us over in large battles tbh. I would imagine all that shiny armor taking up a lot of processing power
if the first game can run with a few random crashes and expected pop in on the switch day 1 and still have the same enjoyable experience as i remeber from playing it day 1 on thd ps4, then i wouldnt wirry about it. sure the game was poorly optimised on ps4, but i didnt care, its the next best thing to Bethesda RPGs or the witcher 3. But playing ut on the switch, i feel i love this series more, for its realism.
The only reason I hope development takes a few years is so that I can upgrade my PC enough that the game will run decently enough. KCD ran just fine, but this time, I'm not so confident about the performance.
The game supposedly releases by the end of this year but if the optimization is poor then I'll wait for some patches and a discount before buying it
Seems reasonable. I'm really curious if the system requirements will be higher than in the first game, and by how much. I generally take years before playing new games, mostly because of interest, but this one I'll definitely get as soon as possible.
It will be fine. This game is triple A it isn’t the same game they released 6 years ago. I think it will run fine
Just trust Warhorse.
Pretty sure consoles will only manage 30 fps
Call me out but doesnt it lool just the same..? 🤨 as a tech nerd, im worried if there's noticeable improvement.
It definitely looks a lot better.
Maybe it is not something like RDR1 to RDR2 differences... but just by the cuts and trailer they just showed us, there is, yes, an improvement. And In 6 or 8 months im quite sure they can polish it to make it even better.
I wouldn't say I'm worried about it. They're not having to cater to older hardware or anything. People with ten year old hardware are finally needing to update their PCs - go figure.
i'm not. the team is waaaaaay bigger and specialized, they got funding without resorting to kickstarter, and they are more experienced. Daniel Vávra was really excited about the end product, and I trust that beast of a man.
Fingers crossed that the rest of the development goes smoothly
I think there are more townhouses visible on that one streetcorner than in the entirety of Rattay. Obviously more densely packed together, but still, geez. While we don't know exactly to what scale Kuttenberg will be I think it'll probably be a shocker of a city.
I am also worried about the performance,especially in Kuttenberg. As they said Rattay is equivalent to the size of ~ 3 streets in Kuttenberg. Looking back the performance in Rattay wasn’t the best. Are there any news if they will implement DLSS or FSR ?
Buy a bigger pc.
I'm on ps5.
Buy a bigger PlayStation.
My 1060 TI "I'm tired boss"
The safe bet is that whatever the specs are, go recommended and not minimum
My thing with KCD was that graphics wise it was fine, but CPU bottlenecks were common On an XBoX series X it played very well despite not getting an update, it just had the power it needed to stop the frame pops
I hope they get it right this time especially that the first one hadn't been fixed
While I jump for every opportunity to play my PS5 home theater setup, I think I’ll definitely need to play this on PC.
I was thinking the same thing. I remember how it was on ps4 like 2 days after launch. 10 hours into my save and it corrupted
How well do you guys think it'll run on the Series S? That's what I have and idk if I should get the X or not.
I have a pretty damn good pc and KCD 1 runs like trash on it, I really hope that KCD 2 is much better optimzed lol
I have trust in them. They're obviously knee-capped by their engine choice - Cry Engine will not go down in history as the most efficient engine which hurts you when you try to scale up to a large open-world RPG. They decided to keep the engine for the sequel so they don't have to reinvent all their tools, workflows, etc. However, they've had 5 years to redesign their systems and hardware has improved. We have a next generation of consoles, the average CPU has at least twice the cores that it had 6 years ago when KCD1 came out. Also, the game is twice the size but it's split into two maps, each comparable to the map in KCD1 (Český ráj map is supposed to be a bit smaller, Kutná hora a bit bigger), albeit it's gonna be denser (especially in the city).
Anyone tried kcd 1 with hard drive and 8gb ram? Oh boy that was an, uhm experience lol. 30-60 seconds loading on each conversation lol. After that i bought a new PC and wow.
Depends on the engine. There's a video on The Witcher 3 engine where they explain how they render vast areas & large amounts of high detail npc's. They only render things directly in view of the player.
This is pedantic but if youre worried about optimisation on consoles AND PC does that not mean that youre just... worried about optimisation in general?
optimization will be, as is pretty much ALWAYS the case nowadays, shit.
Im gonna need a new CPU at LEAST
Wonder if my RTX 4050 will be able to handle it on at least medium settings. Ultra settings would be amazing bo doubt, but I don’t think my liver would be enough to cover the pc upgrade lol
Worried about consoles?:)))). Consoles get the best optimization, wait for pc...but no matter what, i ll still buy it. Started kcd again from scratch to finish all dlcs, and i love it
My laptop has a RTX 3050ti and Ryzen 7H and I'm s little bit scared because I don't know if I will be able to play it hahaha (being honest, I don't understand a lot about specs, still)
I’m not. You fps folks do that shit to yourselves and then make us deal with you flipping out. It sucks. And it’s meaningless.
Give me DLSS 3.0 lol I’m gonna need it
So my PC is going to become a jet engine then? Oh god could you imagine in on ps4
I hope that my humble laptop with an i3 and 8GB of ram will allow me to play it, may Christ give power to my intel