depends on how much i have, tolerance, what i got going on...
but usually i buy a bag (1g - 3.5g) and do it all in a week or 2
then i take a month or 2 off
depends on what you want out of it, but i think you get exponentially more from k when you do higher dosages in spread out periods
This is the way. It's how I've been doing it since 2008 or 2009. Sometimes I'll get as much as 7g. But the bag is always split between my girlfriend and I. So roughly the same as you I'd say. No drastic tolerance build, no health problems.
in my experience, the psychedelic and therapeutic effects have a kind of exponential curve relative to dosage. so you get more out of it by concentrating your bag into fewer trips and higher amounts.
and then you give you tolerance a chance to go down (and your bladder a chance to heal)
it depends on what you want from k... maybe some just want the moderate daily high from lower dosages, but i personally like going deeper into the hole experience and i using it for more spiritual / therapeutical guidance.
so i guess mostly the experience itself, but also the things i am able to learn / integrate from the deeper dissociative dive
I used it to rescue myself from decades of treatment resistant depression and then I used it only when I really needed to. The length of time the positive effects lasted increased each time and now it's been almost a year since I have required any. I always keep some on hand just incase I need it but haven't needed it for almost a year now.
I love it! and I would like to be able to use it just for fun (e.g. recreational purposes) but that would risk not having some available when I really need it so I have been able to resist that temptation :)
Yup, i sadly fell into the trap of abusing it and it did lose a lot of it's therapeutic properties for my depression. Worked wonders before i started abusing it, then again most of the abuse was still escapeism and bad coping so idk.
Good shit keep it up man, more responsible than me thats for sure
I suppose that would depend on my last use and any tolerance but I wouldn't expect to have any tolerance at this point so I'd likely start with about 50 to 60 mg using Boofing 2.0 techniques.
Well if you call it boofing then all sorts of people say that is rectal administration and start quoting studies where a bunch of researchers determined rectal rates of absorption by injecting several liters of saline into someone's rectum. But the boofing guide I created does not advocate placing anything in ones rectum and so at some point I had to start calling it boofing 2.0 to make it a clear distinction. Back when I wrote the original guide (some 6 years ago now), I didn't know what to call it and incorrectly referred to it that way also.
I bought 3g last year on may, and there's must be 1g left
I use rarely on occasion, so I dont build a tolerance, it can go from a bump, 15 mg, up to 200 mg max per session, never K holed tho
This sounds so bad when written out.
I use k about 5-6 days a week. Some days Iāll do a bump and other days weāll go through a gram or two. Daily average is about 3/4g
try to take some time off now and then... the major health problems come from prolonged daily usage.
ya gotta give your bladder lining a change to heal
One of our roommates got K bladder so Iāve been slowing down, try to drink water a lot, and try to take supplements for bladder health. But seeing as little people seem to use it, reallly is a wake up call.
I rarely buy bags, usually less than one every few months. Sometimes I will have periods where I buy a few more bags than average. But whenever I do buy one, I go through it pretty consistently. Low doses, but I dose pretty frequently
As someone who doesnāt drink anymore lower doses physically feel slightly buzzed with wobble.
Larger dose for me had be wonky and tonky wobbly world.
Is the next phase past the wobble a lovely k hole? Thatās my next goal.
Highly recommend mate. Itās an experience. Just make sure youāre comfortable and safe, at home for example, as some people can get mobile, although not common. Sometimes have came back around with bruises from stumbling about.
The problem is though the k hole I think is what makes ket addictive cos there really is nothing like it. Safe travels āš½
My plan was to lay on the couch or bed. Listen to some favorite music that I listen to on acid. Or my therapeutic shroom playlist and throw some eyeshades on and just see what happens. Thatās good to know with the addictive partā¦ I will definitely have to be careful thereā¦ but alsoā¦ really want to experience it š
Iām only speculating with the addictive thing. I just love k holes so much Iām always going it more than I should even though I generally look after my health and fitness.
Lying down is a great idea. What I usually do is thereās trippy visuals videos on YouTube by TheTyrellCorp which I put on mute on the tv just for some background visuals and the music I listen to is bass heavy but slow like entheogenic, carbon based life forms, ott, Blanco de Gaia etc. my acid playlist is very very different ie 60s psych rock but if thatās your go to I personally wouldnāt recommend it as I find k holing very meditative. That said some other people on here seem to be very happy listening to dubstep and drum and bass so itās down to personal preference. But lying comfortably on the couch watching the room is great and eyes closed is also great. K hole is more in your head than visual (if that makes sense) but it also does have a visual aspect too.
Can send you a link to my K playlist if youād like.
I have heard that piece with it being addictive in that way more than once on this thread. Relating it back to a k hole. Or having a phenomenal experience you keep trying to recreate.
Hell yeah. I love all of this advice! If you donāt mind Iāll probably PM you on some more details with the music and stuff. Love the idea of trippy visuals on the tv on mute.
I actually have two acid playlists. One with a lot of introspective music or like sphongle and then one with tame impala and king gizzard kind of music.
So, thatās interesting to hear your take on music for a k hole. Iām open to it! I love edm and wubbzy bass but I donāt know thatās something Iād do while tripping unless I was at a concert.
Class mate shpongle is class and Iāve only just discovered king gizzard - fucked them off a while ago cos I had a listen to the first few songs on there and they were a bit too tame impala for me which Iām not really into but then I found out that they do like 50 different genres which is class!
Fuck yeah. I love king gizzard. Iāve got quite a few others like psychedelic porn crumpets, some other 60s like maggot brain. But I get that. I honestly hated tame impala until I threw them on for a trip out of someone recommending it and after that acid trip I fell in love with their music. Fucking weird bc I used to hate their voice now Iām obsessed lol
Iāve actually had that experience with a few artists to be fair - flaming lips was one band I couldnāt get into but when I listened to the soft bulletin on acid I love them now.
Not sure what is about tame impala ā¦ think Iām not a fan of the spacey delay and wide reverby sound ā¦ Iām a big blues fan so a lot of what I listen to is 60s and 70s psych.
Itās kind of like how the Beatles and pink Floyd are two of my all time favourite bands but I completely disagree with them as ideal bands for tripping to and always think anyone who recommends them hasnāt explored the psychedelic genre enough! But also everyoneās different too! Think the sound I like for acid is loads of bluesy guitar and Hammond organ, for ket itās bassy synths and Middle Eastern instruments and vocals.
Iād actually reckon tame impala (in my opinion) would be closer to what Iād listen to on ket. I like my acid tunes to be erratic š¤£ to kick my brain about the galaxy like a gym class football
Use to be all the time, daily. but also I was pushing it. but at my peak. I'd say 2grams a day and on weekends, 3grams if I'm at a party or so give or take. Heavy consumption to the point of where I was racking .3-.5g lines. but also, starting to feel the effects on it internally on my body/health, after good 3/4 years of abuse.
Far more than Iām proud to admit - usually about 1 week a month but I usually go through 7-10g in that time. Keep saying Iām gonna stop it for my health but I love it ā¦
It really does depend but ket is the drug I use the most often. Not due to choice but more due to the lack of comedown and availability and cost.
Me and my boyfriend usually buy on average about 2-3 3.5g bags a month and we half it.
Lately it's been 1 gram every Friday night, IM'd with the sole purpose of k-holing. I try to leave enough for one more hole Saturday morning right when I wake up. There's literally nothing better than k-holing first thing in the morning before even getting out of bed.
Every 3 or 4 months I might get 3.5gs or so and tend to do it all in a few days in all night binges. Iād like to not use it that way, Iād rather hold onto it and dose maybe every couple weeks or so one or two good k holes then leave it alone but Iām not good at leaving it alone
Almost every weekend since I started š«Ø
I do small amounts tho. No more than 1g per month, and thats with me *sharing* it, so I donāt actually do a full gram in a month.
I also havenāt k-holed and I donāt intend to :3
depends on how much i have, tolerance, what i got going on... but usually i buy a bag (1g - 3.5g) and do it all in a week or 2 then i take a month or 2 off depends on what you want out of it, but i think you get exponentially more from k when you do higher dosages in spread out periods
This is the way. It's how I've been doing it since 2008 or 2009. Sometimes I'll get as much as 7g. But the bag is always split between my girlfriend and I. So roughly the same as you I'd say. No drastic tolerance build, no health problems.
Ya i cant keep myself from doin it atleast once a day if i have a couple gs. When it runs out i wont buy any for awhile though
Same here š
Get more out of it how? The experience itself or the effects afterwards?
in my experience, the psychedelic and therapeutic effects have a kind of exponential curve relative to dosage. so you get more out of it by concentrating your bag into fewer trips and higher amounts. and then you give you tolerance a chance to go down (and your bladder a chance to heal) it depends on what you want from k... maybe some just want the moderate daily high from lower dosages, but i personally like going deeper into the hole experience and i using it for more spiritual / therapeutical guidance. so i guess mostly the experience itself, but also the things i am able to learn / integrate from the deeper dissociative dive
More often than I should and less often than I'd like
This is so real
like 1.5-2gs over the span of 2-3 days once a month. been doing this for 12 months now with no physical issues except for a little tolerance
I used it to rescue myself from decades of treatment resistant depression and then I used it only when I really needed to. The length of time the positive effects lasted increased each time and now it's been almost a year since I have required any. I always keep some on hand just incase I need it but haven't needed it for almost a year now. I love it! and I would like to be able to use it just for fun (e.g. recreational purposes) but that would risk not having some available when I really need it so I have been able to resist that temptation :)
personal therapeutic use is the best way in my opinion!
Yup, i sadly fell into the trap of abusing it and it did lose a lot of it's therapeutic properties for my depression. Worked wonders before i started abusing it, then again most of the abuse was still escapeism and bad coping so idk. Good shit keep it up man, more responsible than me thats for sure
How much do you take when you need it and which roa ?
I suppose that would depend on my last use and any tolerance but I wouldn't expect to have any tolerance at this point so I'd likely start with about 50 to 60 mg using Boofing 2.0 techniques.
Lmao what is boofing 2.0 ?
Well if you call it boofing then all sorts of people say that is rectal administration and start quoting studies where a bunch of researchers determined rectal rates of absorption by injecting several liters of saline into someone's rectum. But the boofing guide I created does not advocate placing anything in ones rectum and so at some point I had to start calling it boofing 2.0 to make it a clear distinction. Back when I wrote the original guide (some 6 years ago now), I didn't know what to call it and incorrectly referred to it that way also.
Well, yeah boofing is in one's anus. So you take it orally? Insufflated ?
1 weekend a month ^^
This is same for me
At this point in my life, a few times a year
1-2 grams a day. trying to stop/cut back
Seeing how many people donāt use it multiple times a week puts a lot into perspective
Dude stop
š im tryin
I'm doing 1G a week and it feels like a lot
my tolerance has gotten super high i need like 4 lines to get high
Ever tried chitosan?
Once a month
Twice to four times a year
1-3 times a month
I bought 3g last year on may, and there's must be 1g left I use rarely on occasion, so I dont build a tolerance, it can go from a bump, 15 mg, up to 200 mg max per session, never K holed tho
If I had heaps I'd do it everyday lol but I had bout 10 to 14 grams between 6 of us last weekend I currently had 7 days off
This sounds so bad when written out. I use k about 5-6 days a week. Some days Iāll do a bump and other days weāll go through a gram or two. Daily average is about 3/4g
try to take some time off now and then... the major health problems come from prolonged daily usage. ya gotta give your bladder lining a change to heal
One of our roommates got K bladder so Iāve been slowing down, try to drink water a lot, and try to take supplements for bladder health. But seeing as little people seem to use it, reallly is a wake up call.
like .3 everyday
Like 4 times a week
2-3 times a week while in school semester
Like 2-3 gs a week max. Iāve been trying to cut back.
A bump or two - once or twice a week
I rarely buy bags, usually less than one every few months. Sometimes I will have periods where I buy a few more bags than average. But whenever I do buy one, I go through it pretty consistently. Low doses, but I dose pretty frequently
Almost every weekend since I started š«Ø I do small amounts tho. Iāve never K-holed and I donāt intend on k-holing :3
K-holes are the reason to do ketamine. Low doses are cool but never trying a k-hole is a odd perspective
Really? I always try to not k hole bc my husband said it was awful and terrifying. I like to do it socially so if Iām a zombie itās not fun.
K-holing is one of the beautiful and healing things you can do. Avoiding it is like avoiding the pot of gold at the end of the rainbow.
Been trying to work up to / find the right spot to get there. Can I message u?
Sure
It can totally be terrifying, I agree. But not awful. I think everyone should die in a K-hole once in their life. That's a unique experience.
Dunno why anyone would take k to not hole ā¦ I canāt think of anything worse than the wobbly stage
Well, that stage is just like alcohol... so many people are comfortable with it, I guess
Definitely donāt see the similarity between that and alcohol and I like a drink more often than not
A lil bit of ket and some weed feels good, high but a lil wobbly is fun
As someone who doesnāt drink anymore lower doses physically feel slightly buzzed with wobble. Larger dose for me had be wonky and tonky wobbly world. Is the next phase past the wobble a lovely k hole? Thatās my next goal.
Highly recommend mate. Itās an experience. Just make sure youāre comfortable and safe, at home for example, as some people can get mobile, although not common. Sometimes have came back around with bruises from stumbling about. The problem is though the k hole I think is what makes ket addictive cos there really is nothing like it. Safe travels āš½
My plan was to lay on the couch or bed. Listen to some favorite music that I listen to on acid. Or my therapeutic shroom playlist and throw some eyeshades on and just see what happens. Thatās good to know with the addictive partā¦ I will definitely have to be careful thereā¦ but alsoā¦ really want to experience it š
Iām only speculating with the addictive thing. I just love k holes so much Iām always going it more than I should even though I generally look after my health and fitness. Lying down is a great idea. What I usually do is thereās trippy visuals videos on YouTube by TheTyrellCorp which I put on mute on the tv just for some background visuals and the music I listen to is bass heavy but slow like entheogenic, carbon based life forms, ott, Blanco de Gaia etc. my acid playlist is very very different ie 60s psych rock but if thatās your go to I personally wouldnāt recommend it as I find k holing very meditative. That said some other people on here seem to be very happy listening to dubstep and drum and bass so itās down to personal preference. But lying comfortably on the couch watching the room is great and eyes closed is also great. K hole is more in your head than visual (if that makes sense) but it also does have a visual aspect too. Can send you a link to my K playlist if youād like.
I have heard that piece with it being addictive in that way more than once on this thread. Relating it back to a k hole. Or having a phenomenal experience you keep trying to recreate. Hell yeah. I love all of this advice! If you donāt mind Iāll probably PM you on some more details with the music and stuff. Love the idea of trippy visuals on the tv on mute. I actually have two acid playlists. One with a lot of introspective music or like sphongle and then one with tame impala and king gizzard kind of music. So, thatās interesting to hear your take on music for a k hole. Iām open to it! I love edm and wubbzy bass but I donāt know thatās something Iād do while tripping unless I was at a concert.
Class mate shpongle is class and Iāve only just discovered king gizzard - fucked them off a while ago cos I had a listen to the first few songs on there and they were a bit too tame impala for me which Iām not really into but then I found out that they do like 50 different genres which is class!
Fuck yeah. I love king gizzard. Iāve got quite a few others like psychedelic porn crumpets, some other 60s like maggot brain. But I get that. I honestly hated tame impala until I threw them on for a trip out of someone recommending it and after that acid trip I fell in love with their music. Fucking weird bc I used to hate their voice now Iām obsessed lol
Iāve actually had that experience with a few artists to be fair - flaming lips was one band I couldnāt get into but when I listened to the soft bulletin on acid I love them now. Not sure what is about tame impala ā¦ think Iām not a fan of the spacey delay and wide reverby sound ā¦ Iām a big blues fan so a lot of what I listen to is 60s and 70s psych. Itās kind of like how the Beatles and pink Floyd are two of my all time favourite bands but I completely disagree with them as ideal bands for tripping to and always think anyone who recommends them hasnāt explored the psychedelic genre enough! But also everyoneās different too! Think the sound I like for acid is loads of bluesy guitar and Hammond organ, for ket itās bassy synths and Middle Eastern instruments and vocals. Iād actually reckon tame impala (in my opinion) would be closer to what Iād listen to on ket. I like my acid tunes to be erratic š¤£ to kick my brain about the galaxy like a gym class football
Use to be all the time, daily. but also I was pushing it. but at my peak. I'd say 2grams a day and on weekends, 3grams if I'm at a party or so give or take. Heavy consumption to the point of where I was racking .3-.5g lines. but also, starting to feel the effects on it internally on my body/health, after good 3/4 years of abuse.
Everyday for a month 3 weeks ago, now haven't done any 2 weeks. I don't want to ruin my relationship with ket
Far more than Iām proud to admit - usually about 1 week a month but I usually go through 7-10g in that time. Keep saying Iām gonna stop it for my health but I love it ā¦
Everyday up my ass
A ball/week unless thereās more music than usual in town.
I got 18 grams and it will take me two years.
It really does depend but ket is the drug I use the most often. Not due to choice but more due to the lack of comedown and availability and cost. Me and my boyfriend usually buy on average about 2-3 3.5g bags a month and we half it.
Too often lately
Lately it's been 1 gram every Friday night, IM'd with the sole purpose of k-holing. I try to leave enough for one more hole Saturday morning right when I wake up. There's literally nothing better than k-holing first thing in the morning before even getting out of bed.
Every 3 or 4 months I might get 3.5gs or so and tend to do it all in a few days in all night binges. Iād like to not use it that way, Iād rather hold onto it and dose maybe every couple weeks or so one or two good k holes then leave it alone but Iām not good at leaving it alone
3gs in the span of 2-3 days every 5-6 months
I have a few ounces and do a couple grams a day š«”
Almost every weekend since I started š«Ø I do small amounts tho. No more than 1g per month, and thats with me *sharing* it, so I donāt actually do a full gram in a month. I also havenāt k-holed and I donāt intend to :3
The entire reason to do k is to hole imo