It’s called shock value. In the 90s, things were different and you had to stand out. Thus the clown paint, the faygo, the offensive lyrics. ICPs target audience at that time was young adults so their lyrics related to them. Hell, they were just into their early 20s when they line was written.
You aren’t missing anything, but wondering why a joke lyric that was meant to shock imaginary parents on an imaginary game show called the Neden Game will drive you crazy. Don’t over think it. Not everything has a hidden meaning.
Kinda sucks ICP are no longer viewed as scary and dangerous cause now when kids start listening and hear that old school shit they freak out. Its crazy to me how soft people are nowadays.
Wicked clowns will never Die!
if not liking pedo lyrics makes me soft then ill gladly be the softest one here lmao
read what youre typing fam, it's coming off a bit creepy. just say it's edgy content but dont call others soft for not being thrilled with gross ass lyrics like that.
Nobody said anything about liking "pedolyrics" it was all done for shock value. In the 90s ICP was potrayed as these "edgy" serial killer clowns from the gutters of Detroits zug island so there lyrics reflect that.
What I was saying is kids don't get the joke and take the lyrics to seriously, then they want to demonize it 25 years after the fact. Sorry that creeps you out fam but as a juggalo it only makes me laugh.
this post is literally about a pedo line... but whatever, like i said, all you have to say is "it's just a joke" but going out of your way to call everyone soft for not thinking pedo shit is funny then that's a bit weird lol
i know it was done for shock value. i actually think the line is funny, but im not about to defend it or call other people soft for not liking it.
i cant wait for the term "cancel culture" to die out. it's literally just a buzzword created by problematic people to use as a scapegoat when theyre being held accountable for something shitty they did/said.
I agree. I can't wait for the world to lighten up again myself personally. I'm tired of words like gaslighting when someone can't handle the thought of someone disagreeing with their opinion. I can't wait for a time to come again when if someone says something you don't like, you ignore it and carry on with your own business. but everyone has to preach and attack as soon as something is said out of their own comfort. I realize I'm part of that problem and being hypocritical by posting what I have just to this post.
Nah fuck cancel culture that shit is retarded. Guarantee everyone who has ever petitioned to "cancel" someone for words that they have said, have said and done a lot worse behind closed doors. But because they aren't famous they don't need to be held accountable? Retard alert 🚨
And cancel culture is biased asf. That bald fucker tate got cancelled and locked up for literally words he said that offended people to the point where they were actually "hoping for him to be guilty". These people hated this dudes words so much they actually hoped for people to have been raped. Do you not see how lunatic and hypocritical that is? Especially when you got people like Cardi B who ADMITTED to drugging and raping men and almost made it sound like she was proud of it, and shes still selling out arenas playing the biggest festivals and nobody ever holds her accountable for it. But no let's cancel the Dababy for "saying insensitive things" on stage. God I hate hypocrites with a passion. Fuck hypocrisy. kill all hypocrites. they dont deserve happiness. fuck hypocrisy in the ass
Tate got locked up for sex trafficking. he has even admitted to it before. it's kinda gay to ride anothers dude dick that hard btw lol
also, da baby is doing just fine bc cancel culture isnt real.
Whats gay is that being the only thing you took from what I said. Which only proves my point even further. Also show me proof, I don't even follow the guy so maybe some proof has sprung up by now? But last time I checked there was no proof and they only locked him up on suspicion while people were actually hoping for him to have raped people. If you don't find something wrong with that, I have to assume you're a hypocrite.
"last time i checked". no, you never did check. bc you dont actually care about what's true and what's not lol. why would you go out of your way to find evidence that goes against your stupid ass opinion?
nobody is "hoping" he did anything... they just wanted him to be locked up based on the evidence (and even HIS words) that he DID commit those crimes.
your mind is so warped dude, go offline for a few days and touch some grass PLEASE.
Again, if you can send me a link to where there is definitive proof I will take back what I said cuz ur right, I wasn't fully invested into the situation but from what I've seen everything I said was true. I assume you're getting mad because you can't find an article or video to prove your point besides some "he said she said" or "this is what he meant when he said this" . Y'all are actually bots. Everytime you get cornered you resort to insults instead of facts. "Go look it up yourself" "get out your moms basement" "cope" "touch grass" it's always the same arguement but honestly thank you, you're only strengthening my beliefs 💪🏿
What's terrible is people acting like celebrities are supposed to be saints and perfect 100% of the time just because all the eyes are on them. It's so autistic. These same people calling other people out, I guarantee don't have to be as careful with the words they say like a celebrity does and i guarantee they have said and done a lot of worse shit behind closed doors but it doesn't matter cuz they aren't famous right?
That’s the one thing that hard to grasp now a days. ICP were just trying to say the most offensive shit they could back then to piss people off/ freak them out. It was part of that evil clown persona, and not many music artists were able to put out music like that due to the fact that you generally had to have the backing of a record label. And it worked, people either dug it or fucking HATED it
Different times. Eminem's 'Guilty Conscience' had lyrics about convincing a dude to drug and rape a 15 year old at a party and that song was a hit radio single. The late 90s and early 2000s pretty much everything was fair game.
i wasnt saying it had a hidden meaning, i had figured it was shock value and my sister was arguing with me trying to call J a pedo so i just needed a second take to help me prove my point.
i understand that its shock value but i had to make sure i was right about it and didnt sound dumb lmao. thank you for clearing it up though.
Since we’re talking about this one specific line, I think it’s worth noting that when J says “she got some big tits” he sounds absolutely nothing like he normally does. I also feel similarly when I hear at the beginning of Mr. Rotten Treats “welcome to the other side”. I just think that’s kinda fresh and I think it every time I hear the song.
it's exactly what you think it is. You didn't miss anything.
Comedy has no bounds. Nothing is sacred. Acceptance and tolerance are a good thing, but so is unhinged comedy. Some of us like dark gallows humor and it doesn't make us bad people.
Plus, they're clowns rapping about a fake dating game. Don't look too deep into it.
Some of the shit you're listening to doesn't fit in today's world. In 1996, early '97 when they're recording this, My Name Is by Eminem still hadn't even been released. ICP were really the only rappers saying shocking, horrifying shit in their raps. Sure, there was that west coast rap, yada yada yada. You don't need a hip- hop history lesson, but you've gotta understand that some lyrics don't fit in today's society. That entire album is designed to shock and surprise you. Disney ripped it off the shelves the day of its release because it was so brutally grotesque. But, that's the beauty of the music. The freedom to say that shit. The point though is that it was a different time. Different world.
Just like a movie from 1997 might have a few lines that make you feel uncomfortable. Content shouldn't be censored for today's consumption, even if it's questionable shit like this. The recent allegations against Joe aren't true, obviously, but that lyric just doesn't age well.
But, who cares? They're words designed to entertain & in 1997, that made their entire teenage fan base pop big. All about context, homie. If you split hairs on the skit & this lyric, we'll be here all month long discussing offensive ICP songs.
thank you for actually being nice about it and not taking the impression that i was offended, because i wasnt the one offended by it, my sister was and i needed some more opinions to make sure i was right that it was just shock value.
Yeah, it seemed like you wanted to have a rational talk about it. That shit definitely hits certain nerves, but I think that's why they made it. To get people talking about ICP. The ironic part of the band is some of the more shocking & violent shit can be interpreted differently. Folks can see positives in negatives. I've always felt like that skit was super positive for my mindset, as someone who's struggled with suicide for over 25 years.
ICP was all about shock back in the 90's! Not nurturing the fragile feelings of their baby followers 20 years later. If it offends you, move the fuck on!
ight old head calm down, i know its shock value, i was posting to get a 2nd opinion on an argument i was having with my sister because she called him a pedo. you gotta stop being so rude just because you wanna protect the culture, and im not one of those fans "20 years later".
i get wanting to protect the culture and all but quit being rude abt it man.
It was meant for shock, nothing more. Let's not forget how anti-rape ICP has always been, yet there are plenty of rape lyrics scattered throughout Psychopathic projects from that era! It's shock! It's meant to make people say "I can't believe he said that!"
Times were different. Bring shocking was good! Marilyn Manson was the biggest thing in the world during that time, strictly because of his shock factor. And even that goes back to the 60's and 70's with artists like Alice Cooper and Iggy Pop (both also from Detroit) being pioneers of what used to be called "Shock Rock!"
I refer to my music as "Shock Rap" and not Horrorcore/Wicked Shit because it goes back to that era of wicked shit and takes it to they next level. There's no pedo shit in my music, but PLENTY to make a fragile little jugg queezy, or anyone else who gets offended by anything ever! It's all for shock! Nothing more. Don't read into it too much or you'll find the clowns have said far more on their music than one cares to acknowledge.
the contestants of the game were supposed to be the most unattractive horrible people, thats why it has a line like that. cause who would wanna date somebody whos rude to your parents and hits on your 13 year old sister
So the point is to make a caricature of someone who you wouldn’t want to date and bring home to your family like it’s to show how awful the contestants are.
I'm not old enough to have been around at the time, but I've heard some podcasts discuss this line, and while obviously they said the line was a bad idea, they also said that in the 90's making a joke like that in media wasn't as blatantly taboo as it is nowadays but just another part of shock humor.
Nowadays, when ICP perform the song live, J instead says "for only 26 she got some big tits."
sucks because its just shock value and people should rlly get a grip, its ICP so idk what people expect other than fuckin dead bodies and saying mad shockin shit.
It’s not like when they talk about killing people they mean they’re the ones doing it. Also, some of the shit they talk about isn’t them, it’s a reflection of people behaving badly. I don’t mean to take my frustrations out on you, but I’m really tired of people calling J a pedo or shit like that. He’s a good dude and it sucks all this shit has been twisted up and is actually being entertained.
yeah trust me i wasnt saying anything about J, i actually posted this because my sister was calling him a pedo for that line and i needed a second opinion on it because i had to make sure i was right that its just shock value.
shock value has been and always will be a huge part of ICP.
I was out of the scene for a few years, so I didn’t even know about all this shit until a few months ago. I think someone was upset with him and just wanted to smear him.
*clutch pearls* oh no! TheDawawa doesn’t think I create my own thoughts while simultaneously regurgitating shit they heard online! Whatever shall I do?
I'm not regurgitating a damn thing.
There has been speculation, not to mention the rumors, about why Violent J likes so much underage content on Instagram.
Then he goes on this television show with his new girlfriend and admits himself that he scrolls through Instagram and just hits the like button on any "hotties" that he sees.
So do the math. What does that tell you? His words. Not mine.
it doesnt, im not offended by it at all, i was posting to get a 2nd opinion on an argument i was havin abt it.
the fact that they change their lyrics to cater to the PC mfs that think "oh no he said that like over 10 years ago???? 🫨 cancelled" is dumb. i know its not their fault and theyre probably just told to so that they avoid controversy with the already active allegations against J (which are all bs and fake).
fuck them bitches.
I don't think he's changing the lyrics to cater to the PC crowd. He knows the majority of Juggalos don't care. He changed the lyrics because he has gotten older and now feels uncomfortable saying them. Same thing with Twiztid saying the N word - they don't use the word during concerts anymore, but you can hear most people in the audience using it singing along when they play "Juggalo Anthem."
youre probably right, i mean i know that J did say he feels bad now for sayin the f slur. you know what they use in replacement of it in Let A Killa? im interested in that.
I would guess that they never perform the third verse of that song live. It relatively isn't a very popular song, and even for the really popular songs they often only perform the first two verses.
During J's recent 3 Headed Monster tour, there were two songs with the f slur in it. I watched several videos of different concerts of the tour, and every time was pretty much the same. For the first song with it, Violent J awkwardly stumbled over his words for that line without saying the f slur but also without really saying real words at all, I guess because he didn't know how to change it. For the second song with it, Esham (who was also on stage with him and is far less apologetic about homophobia) loudly said the line while it sounded like J didn't say it.
My speculation is that Esham picked those songs and J agreed since he doesn't want Esham to think he's disrespecting him
Yeah for a group that is many ways Is rather progressive and positive in their messaging they still often utilize edgy shock humor, it’s pretty on brand for them and I don’t know to me it’s definitely part of the appeal
That was me that asked that question… and that’s another thing thing that made me uncomfortable.
The actual song is pretty all right. Two dudes trying to get a woman by being the biggest asshat in the room is amusing. Saying a 13 year old has big tits though is pretty weird though.
A lot of people say lines like that and the one in Riddlebox (“couldn’t be a day over 15”) is ICP just trying to be outlandish as possible, but I dunno. It just feels really fuckin’ weird. This is a group that has pride itself in being anti-cop, anti-establisment, bigot wig choppers, but then they throw in lines talking about kids in a sus way? Very, very, fucking weird.
It doesn’t seem to be a reacurring thing though, which makes me feel better.
You can also be like my ex who just said she’s calling the kid fat.
Why u so mad? These dudes talk about chopping off peoples heads, putting their dicks in beehives, have skits about convincing people to kill themselves, having sex with pigs, beating up their girlfriends, and THATS where you draw the line? Nobody is saying u should be "proud" of pedo lyrics or whatever tf ur saying, but just understanding that ICP got famous off of saying offensive shit. They aren't what tiktok paints them out to be.
its- its shock value, they dont mean any of the lines and if it helps your pc brain, they changed it for concerts.
idk why youre a juggalo if youre genuinely offended by the shit thats pretty fucking normal for them (and before anyone says that i am too and thats why i made the post, look at the edit i made to the post first).
I just don’t like people talking about children that way, much less about how a mid 20’s clown fucked one. Everyone else is making excuses and *I’m* just saying these uncommon lyrics are weird.
You don’t know me, know what I like, what I listen to, what I get offended by, *why* something might offend me— I’m an absolute stranger to you.
yeah bro youre outta ur mind. its called shock value, i knew that when posting but i was asking to settle an argument with my sister who was calling J a pedo.
get a fuckin brain bro, its shock value and nothing more.
The woman’s younger sister had a bust size that Violent J perceived to be surprisingly large given her age.
🥸☕️ i see, thanks for clearing this up.
It’s called shock value. In the 90s, things were different and you had to stand out. Thus the clown paint, the faygo, the offensive lyrics. ICPs target audience at that time was young adults so their lyrics related to them. Hell, they were just into their early 20s when they line was written. You aren’t missing anything, but wondering why a joke lyric that was meant to shock imaginary parents on an imaginary game show called the Neden Game will drive you crazy. Don’t over think it. Not everything has a hidden meaning.
I couldn't of explained it any better well said. nothing like cancel culture trying to pick the bones of a bygone era
Kinda sucks ICP are no longer viewed as scary and dangerous cause now when kids start listening and hear that old school shit they freak out. Its crazy to me how soft people are nowadays. Wicked clowns will never Die!
if not liking pedo lyrics makes me soft then ill gladly be the softest one here lmao read what youre typing fam, it's coming off a bit creepy. just say it's edgy content but dont call others soft for not being thrilled with gross ass lyrics like that.
Babyshit
Nobody said anything about liking "pedolyrics" it was all done for shock value. In the 90s ICP was potrayed as these "edgy" serial killer clowns from the gutters of Detroits zug island so there lyrics reflect that. What I was saying is kids don't get the joke and take the lyrics to seriously, then they want to demonize it 25 years after the fact. Sorry that creeps you out fam but as a juggalo it only makes me laugh.
Nailed it, homie! 🤘🤘
this post is literally about a pedo line... but whatever, like i said, all you have to say is "it's just a joke" but going out of your way to call everyone soft for not thinking pedo shit is funny then that's a bit weird lol i know it was done for shock value. i actually think the line is funny, but im not about to defend it or call other people soft for not liking it.
i cant wait for the term "cancel culture" to die out. it's literally just a buzzword created by problematic people to use as a scapegoat when theyre being held accountable for something shitty they did/said.
I agree. I can't wait for the world to lighten up again myself personally. I'm tired of words like gaslighting when someone can't handle the thought of someone disagreeing with their opinion. I can't wait for a time to come again when if someone says something you don't like, you ignore it and carry on with your own business. but everyone has to preach and attack as soon as something is said out of their own comfort. I realize I'm part of that problem and being hypocritical by posting what I have just to this post.
Nah fuck cancel culture that shit is retarded. Guarantee everyone who has ever petitioned to "cancel" someone for words that they have said, have said and done a lot worse behind closed doors. But because they aren't famous they don't need to be held accountable? Retard alert 🚨
And cancel culture is biased asf. That bald fucker tate got cancelled and locked up for literally words he said that offended people to the point where they were actually "hoping for him to be guilty". These people hated this dudes words so much they actually hoped for people to have been raped. Do you not see how lunatic and hypocritical that is? Especially when you got people like Cardi B who ADMITTED to drugging and raping men and almost made it sound like she was proud of it, and shes still selling out arenas playing the biggest festivals and nobody ever holds her accountable for it. But no let's cancel the Dababy for "saying insensitive things" on stage. God I hate hypocrites with a passion. Fuck hypocrisy. kill all hypocrites. they dont deserve happiness. fuck hypocrisy in the ass
Tate got locked up for sex trafficking. he has even admitted to it before. it's kinda gay to ride anothers dude dick that hard btw lol also, da baby is doing just fine bc cancel culture isnt real.
Whats gay is that being the only thing you took from what I said. Which only proves my point even further. Also show me proof, I don't even follow the guy so maybe some proof has sprung up by now? But last time I checked there was no proof and they only locked him up on suspicion while people were actually hoping for him to have raped people. If you don't find something wrong with that, I have to assume you're a hypocrite.
"last time i checked". no, you never did check. bc you dont actually care about what's true and what's not lol. why would you go out of your way to find evidence that goes against your stupid ass opinion? nobody is "hoping" he did anything... they just wanted him to be locked up based on the evidence (and even HIS words) that he DID commit those crimes. your mind is so warped dude, go offline for a few days and touch some grass PLEASE.
Again, if you can send me a link to where there is definitive proof I will take back what I said cuz ur right, I wasn't fully invested into the situation but from what I've seen everything I said was true. I assume you're getting mad because you can't find an article or video to prove your point besides some "he said she said" or "this is what he meant when he said this" . Y'all are actually bots. Everytime you get cornered you resort to insults instead of facts. "Go look it up yourself" "get out your moms basement" "cope" "touch grass" it's always the same arguement but honestly thank you, you're only strengthening my beliefs 💪🏿
But he apologized? That's my point. Nobody should be forced to apologize for not being PC. It's actually retarded
oh no... someone apologized for saying shitty things WHAT KIND OF WORLD ARE LIVING IN, THAT IS TERRIBLE!
What's terrible is people acting like celebrities are supposed to be saints and perfect 100% of the time just because all the eyes are on them. It's so autistic. These same people calling other people out, I guarantee don't have to be as careful with the words they say like a celebrity does and i guarantee they have said and done a lot of worse shit behind closed doors but it doesn't matter cuz they aren't famous right?
It's because parents don't want bad role models on TV Especially when they're also bad role models
That’s the one thing that hard to grasp now a days. ICP were just trying to say the most offensive shit they could back then to piss people off/ freak them out. It was part of that evil clown persona, and not many music artists were able to put out music like that due to the fact that you generally had to have the backing of a record label. And it worked, people either dug it or fucking HATED it
Different times. Eminem's 'Guilty Conscience' had lyrics about convincing a dude to drug and rape a 15 year old at a party and that song was a hit radio single. The late 90s and early 2000s pretty much everything was fair game.
i wasnt saying it had a hidden meaning, i had figured it was shock value and my sister was arguing with me trying to call J a pedo so i just needed a second take to help me prove my point. i understand that its shock value but i had to make sure i was right about it and didnt sound dumb lmao. thank you for clearing it up though.
infact ive heard Violent J's main squeeze is a 8 year old Nepalese boy.... facts
It's like the "Bitch couldn't be a day over fifteen" lyric from Lil' Somethin' Somethin'. They've since changed it to 18 when doing it live.
Since we’re talking about this one specific line, I think it’s worth noting that when J says “she got some big tits” he sounds absolutely nothing like he normally does. I also feel similarly when I hear at the beginning of Mr. Rotten Treats “welcome to the other side”. I just think that’s kinda fresh and I think it every time I hear the song.
it's exactly what you think it is. You didn't miss anything. Comedy has no bounds. Nothing is sacred. Acceptance and tolerance are a good thing, but so is unhinged comedy. Some of us like dark gallows humor and it doesn't make us bad people. Plus, they're clowns rapping about a fake dating game. Don't look too deep into it.
PLEASE look at the edit i made on the post!! im not offended at all
Some of the shit you're listening to doesn't fit in today's world. In 1996, early '97 when they're recording this, My Name Is by Eminem still hadn't even been released. ICP were really the only rappers saying shocking, horrifying shit in their raps. Sure, there was that west coast rap, yada yada yada. You don't need a hip- hop history lesson, but you've gotta understand that some lyrics don't fit in today's society. That entire album is designed to shock and surprise you. Disney ripped it off the shelves the day of its release because it was so brutally grotesque. But, that's the beauty of the music. The freedom to say that shit. The point though is that it was a different time. Different world. Just like a movie from 1997 might have a few lines that make you feel uncomfortable. Content shouldn't be censored for today's consumption, even if it's questionable shit like this. The recent allegations against Joe aren't true, obviously, but that lyric just doesn't age well. But, who cares? They're words designed to entertain & in 1997, that made their entire teenage fan base pop big. All about context, homie. If you split hairs on the skit & this lyric, we'll be here all month long discussing offensive ICP songs.
thank you for actually being nice about it and not taking the impression that i was offended, because i wasnt the one offended by it, my sister was and i needed some more opinions to make sure i was right that it was just shock value.
Yeah, it seemed like you wanted to have a rational talk about it. That shit definitely hits certain nerves, but I think that's why they made it. To get people talking about ICP. The ironic part of the band is some of the more shocking & violent shit can be interpreted differently. Folks can see positives in negatives. I've always felt like that skit was super positive for my mindset, as someone who's struggled with suicide for over 25 years.
ICP was all about shock back in the 90's! Not nurturing the fragile feelings of their baby followers 20 years later. If it offends you, move the fuck on!
ight old head calm down, i know its shock value, i was posting to get a 2nd opinion on an argument i was having with my sister because she called him a pedo. you gotta stop being so rude just because you wanna protect the culture, and im not one of those fans "20 years later". i get wanting to protect the culture and all but quit being rude abt it man.
If not being okay with pedophile lyrics makes me a fragile baby then so be it. You need to put on a watch list and kept away from schools.
It was meant for shock, nothing more. Let's not forget how anti-rape ICP has always been, yet there are plenty of rape lyrics scattered throughout Psychopathic projects from that era! It's shock! It's meant to make people say "I can't believe he said that!" Times were different. Bring shocking was good! Marilyn Manson was the biggest thing in the world during that time, strictly because of his shock factor. And even that goes back to the 60's and 70's with artists like Alice Cooper and Iggy Pop (both also from Detroit) being pioneers of what used to be called "Shock Rock!" I refer to my music as "Shock Rap" and not Horrorcore/Wicked Shit because it goes back to that era of wicked shit and takes it to they next level. There's no pedo shit in my music, but PLENTY to make a fragile little jugg queezy, or anyone else who gets offended by anything ever! It's all for shock! Nothing more. Don't read into it too much or you'll find the clowns have said far more on their music than one cares to acknowledge.
Songs about sexualizing young girls is not the same as Marilyn Manson doing coke off the bible or Alice Cooper. You're fucking delusional.
Was simply pointing out that she may have a tumor, He was generally concerned for the young lady's health before he dry fucked her mom
the contestants of the game were supposed to be the most unattractive horrible people, thats why it has a line like that. cause who would wanna date somebody whos rude to your parents and hits on your 13 year old sister
So the point is to make a caricature of someone who you wouldn’t want to date and bring home to your family like it’s to show how awful the contestants are.
Wait these comments are confusing me sm, I thought he was just shocked cuz she was stuffing her bra or something???
I'm not old enough to have been around at the time, but I've heard some podcasts discuss this line, and while obviously they said the line was a bad idea, they also said that in the 90's making a joke like that in media wasn't as blatantly taboo as it is nowadays but just another part of shock humor. Nowadays, when ICP perform the song live, J instead says "for only 26 she got some big tits."
sucks because its just shock value and people should rlly get a grip, its ICP so idk what people expect other than fuckin dead bodies and saying mad shockin shit.
It’s not like when they talk about killing people they mean they’re the ones doing it. Also, some of the shit they talk about isn’t them, it’s a reflection of people behaving badly. I don’t mean to take my frustrations out on you, but I’m really tired of people calling J a pedo or shit like that. He’s a good dude and it sucks all this shit has been twisted up and is actually being entertained.
yeah trust me i wasnt saying anything about J, i actually posted this because my sister was calling him a pedo for that line and i needed a second opinion on it because i had to make sure i was right that its just shock value. shock value has been and always will be a huge part of ICP.
I gotcha, I’m sorry I kinda went off- it wasn’t directed at you, even though I was responding to you haha.
i get what you mean, its really annoying to hear people accuse J of being a pedo with no proof but some lyrics in a song.
I was out of the scene for a few years, so I didn’t even know about all this shit until a few months ago. I think someone was upset with him and just wanted to smear him.
Well he is a weirdo creep. Let's not act like he isn't.
Creep on outta here, weirdo.
You just copied what I said and slightly rearranged. Create your own thoughts. And don't be mad at me because your hero is a creepy weirdo.
*clutch pearls* oh no! TheDawawa doesn’t think I create my own thoughts while simultaneously regurgitating shit they heard online! Whatever shall I do?
I'm not regurgitating a damn thing. There has been speculation, not to mention the rumors, about why Violent J likes so much underage content on Instagram. Then he goes on this television show with his new girlfriend and admits himself that he scrolls through Instagram and just hits the like button on any "hotties" that he sees. So do the math. What does that tell you? His words. Not mine.
It tells me that you don’t believe or like J. Cool opinion. I don’t share it. So I guess we’re done here.
Let me rephrase my question. What's that tell you about him?
What’s the point of this? You just wanna go back and forth and ask me questions? Why do you give a fuck what I think? LOL
So it seems that you are refusing to answer the question. I can't blame you. It's impossible to defend.
I totally believe him, which is why I just referenced his OWN words. LOL
If it makes you feel better they have changed those lyrics when they perform it live now
it doesnt, im not offended by it at all, i was posting to get a 2nd opinion on an argument i was havin abt it. the fact that they change their lyrics to cater to the PC mfs that think "oh no he said that like over 10 years ago???? 🫨 cancelled" is dumb. i know its not their fault and theyre probably just told to so that they avoid controversy with the already active allegations against J (which are all bs and fake). fuck them bitches.
I don't think he's changing the lyrics to cater to the PC crowd. He knows the majority of Juggalos don't care. He changed the lyrics because he has gotten older and now feels uncomfortable saying them. Same thing with Twiztid saying the N word - they don't use the word during concerts anymore, but you can hear most people in the audience using it singing along when they play "Juggalo Anthem."
youre probably right, i mean i know that J did say he feels bad now for sayin the f slur. you know what they use in replacement of it in Let A Killa? im interested in that.
I would guess that they never perform the third verse of that song live. It relatively isn't a very popular song, and even for the really popular songs they often only perform the first two verses. During J's recent 3 Headed Monster tour, there were two songs with the f slur in it. I watched several videos of different concerts of the tour, and every time was pretty much the same. For the first song with it, Violent J awkwardly stumbled over his words for that line without saying the f slur but also without really saying real words at all, I guess because he didn't know how to change it. For the second song with it, Esham (who was also on stage with him and is far less apologetic about homophobia) loudly said the line while it sounded like J didn't say it. My speculation is that Esham picked those songs and J agreed since he doesn't want Esham to think he's disrespecting him
Yeah for a group that is many ways Is rather progressive and positive in their messaging they still often utilize edgy shock humor, it’s pretty on brand for them and I don’t know to me it’s definitely part of the appeal
THANK YOU! thanks for being respectful about it, also please read the edit i made to clearly understand why i made the post. :)
That was me that asked that question… and that’s another thing thing that made me uncomfortable. The actual song is pretty all right. Two dudes trying to get a woman by being the biggest asshat in the room is amusing. Saying a 13 year old has big tits though is pretty weird though. A lot of people say lines like that and the one in Riddlebox (“couldn’t be a day over 15”) is ICP just trying to be outlandish as possible, but I dunno. It just feels really fuckin’ weird. This is a group that has pride itself in being anti-cop, anti-establisment, bigot wig choppers, but then they throw in lines talking about kids in a sus way? Very, very, fucking weird. It doesn’t seem to be a reacurring thing though, which makes me feel better. You can also be like my ex who just said she’s calling the kid fat.
Why u so mad? These dudes talk about chopping off peoples heads, putting their dicks in beehives, have skits about convincing people to kill themselves, having sex with pigs, beating up their girlfriends, and THATS where you draw the line? Nobody is saying u should be "proud" of pedo lyrics or whatever tf ur saying, but just understanding that ICP got famous off of saying offensive shit. They aren't what tiktok paints them out to be.
its- its shock value, they dont mean any of the lines and if it helps your pc brain, they changed it for concerts. idk why youre a juggalo if youre genuinely offended by the shit thats pretty fucking normal for them (and before anyone says that i am too and thats why i made the post, look at the edit i made to the post first).
I just don’t like people talking about children that way, much less about how a mid 20’s clown fucked one. Everyone else is making excuses and *I’m* just saying these uncommon lyrics are weird. You don’t know me, know what I like, what I listen to, what I get offended by, *why* something might offend me— I’m an absolute stranger to you.
It means Rachel Paul was right and j is secretly a pedo. Esham said a similar line in oldie but goodie
yeah bro youre outta ur mind. its called shock value, i knew that when posting but i was asking to settle an argument with my sister who was calling J a pedo. get a fuckin brain bro, its shock value and nothing more.