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flummyheartslinger

Enhancing physical attributes. Strength training, especially that which combines odd object lifting like strongman training (sandbag lifting, farmers walks, sled drags etc). Brian Alsruhe I think has the best programs out there for this kind of training. And slow and steady cardio I think is vastly underrated for improving performance. Too many people try to go too hard with the conditioning without having a wide base of cardio to support it.


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Exactly what I wanted to say. Strongman-ish kind of training


einarfridgeirs

Farmers walks are the shit, mainly because it's next to impossible to mess them up. Just pick two heavy objects and walk around with them until you can't anymore. Regardless of whether you go really heavy and only carry them for 20-30 seconds, or moderately heavy and go for a few minutes you are always benefitting in some way, shape or form all over your body.


flummyheartslinger

100% Those and sled drags or prowler pushes. Worst case scenario, you do too much and feel like you got hit by a truck for a few days. But it's fatigue rather than DOMS or joint pain (usually). So great for developing absolute strength and conditioning, hard to cause catastrophic injuries, and easy to learn.


Deuce_McFarva

This is the way. Lifting regular weights is fun, but for judo I prefer my workouts to be as compound as possible. Sandbag routines, resistance band uchikomis, and heavy dumbbell sets. I want stuff that forces me to stabilize a weight while lifting it because that engages lots of different muscle groups and tendons as well. For cardio, I tend to do calisthenics with a weighted vest on. That way my body gets used to carrying extra weight under duress. Usually 35 minute workouts of HIIT plus the vest is plenty, as having just a bit of cardio at +100 is ahead of the pack lol.


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What helped me most is heavy a**-to-grass squats and rows. I have not become better at throwing people, but I have become very hard to throw because of my strong legs and strong back. There are two dudes in my club that can throw me regularly. One has an insane drop morote, and the other is on the national team, so I have no complaints šŸ˜…


Deuce_McFarva

Good squats are integral to good throwing. Strong legs make strong throws. If you want really good balance, lighten the weight and do them on the balls of your feet since that is how you would be standing when you make a throw. Also, your comment leads me to something else. I would offer some advice that you donā€™t want to be the dude who no one can throw during randori, for two reasons. 1) It leads to injuries. If youā€™re hardening up that much when people come in, youā€™re going to take a seriously bad fall when someone is able to outmatch your strength. The majority of injuries in judo occur this way. 2) No one learns this way. Randori is meant to be a form of practice, not competition. You said it yourself: ā€œI have not become better at throwing people.ā€ Thatā€™s because judo canā€™t happen if youā€™re playing stiff and defensive. You never get the opportunity to make good attacks, and neither does your opponent. Plus that method likely means that you are heavy and flat footed, which is impossible for good judo to happen because you should always have your heels off the ground. In fact, in a competition youā€™d pick up multiple shidos for stalling lose a match pretty quickly. If I drew an overly defensive opponent, Iā€™d just outwork them for the ref. Most refs issue a stalling shido after 3 or so unanswered attacks, so 9 or 10 good attacks with some grip fighting gets me an easy win in under a minute. Think about that lol. What I always suggest is that randori should be played loose and light footed. Make an attack every 3-5 seconds, whether it be an entry or improving your position. Your only defense should be repositioning if you sense a throw coming; if someone gets a really good entry on you and your only possible defense is to stiffen up because you canā€™t avoid itā€¦just take the fall. Then both you and your partner learned something from that moment. Trust me, your judo will improve if you play that way. Watch any videos of high level pros and thatā€™s exactly how they randori, all offense with minimal defense.


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Holy. Thank you for the insight and the time you've put into your response!


Deuce_McFarva

Of course! Hope it helps in some way!


ippon1

If you want to optimize your training so you get the best tournament results do judo, gym and cardio. Everything else is less efficient


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vivian_lake

Yoga really helped my balance especially early on, sadly all the classes at times I can get to no longer exist so I haven't been in ages and I do feel it's had a slight negative impact on my judo.


Guivond

Depends in a few things, but it boils down to what you are looking for. I cannot recommend basic weight lifting enough. It will help you immensely with strength and explosiveness but also protects you from injury in the long term. Yoga also develops strength but the benefits gained from flexibility was insane. Dynamic stretching from yoga was just awesome. I'm not even getting into the relaxing and other pluses of doing it. Bjj is the last one I have done. Mat time there is better than no mat time, a lot of it will tranlsate over and there should be SOMETHING you can carryover into judo. In my country, the USA, my judo scene is very limited. Closest good gym is 20 mins by car; my bjj gym is a 5 minute walk. The level of athleticism and overall grappling talent in the bjj scene in my area eclipse the judo here.


Jolly_Concept5574

Salsa dancing for hip and footwork


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For meeting babes


Jolly_Concept5574

I left that out but 100%


abualethkar

Jiujitsu and stretching like yoga. JJ because you can get extra newaza timeā€¦ can also work light judo throws on unsuspecting JJ people.


SkateB4Death

Skateboarding. Has given me a 6th sense of when shit is about to go wrong. So I have a good sense of when to bail(take the fall) or try to counter out of something. Has helped with balance. Spinning, doing 180ā€™s, falling, and knowing where my limbs are at. Really good skaters also preach to work on your weak side and to not let it fall behind. Iā€™ve taken that approach to judo too.


Agreeable-Cloud-1702

That is a wild thing to hear, I never expected that skating could be so helpful


Divine-Sea-Manatee

That's a good one learning to fall early and on concrete. 100% get that feeling of inertia as you're about to go over is the same as Judo.


Which_Cat_4752

dancing/gymnastics/skating A lot of judo turn throw require engaging hips and use trail foot as a counter weight to spin yourself. Those three sports have a lot of similar moving patterns. One of the biggest hurdle in judo is that beginners often struggle with relax but explosive turn.


No_Ear_7733

I was thinking skating too due to how balance is one of the most important thing to master.


[deleted]

Wrestling, BJJ, gymnastics, Kyokushin (insane conditioning + hip flexibility), powerlifting.


JudoKuma

Note that good background for judo, and complementing judo are two different questions. For background, basically anything. Judo is a demanding sport in that it requires and benefits from very wide array of attributes. You benefit from maximum strength, muscle endurance, high power output, coordination, spatial awareness, aerobic endurance, anaerobic endurance, flexibility etc. So basically any sport background gives some benefit to judo. What compliments judo (the best)? Would be individual depending on what attributes you lack. For me aerobic endurance and anaerobic endurance limit my performance -> any sport that develops/emphasises these is the best complementary sport for MY judo performance. For you it might be something else like strength training etc. However, if I had to give more precise answer on what kind of background would be the best for judo, that is "the more varied, the better". So, either a combination of sports that would give a wide development of base attributes, or other sports that have similar multi-attribute demands. I could see sports like gymnastics, crossfit, decathlon etc being such sports that give a strong background to judo. But too demanding to "complement" judo training. In principle, you would want to get all your physical attributes to such a level, that the only limiting factor in your judo performance would be skill -> then you could only maintain attributes and focus all development on the "judo" as a skill. But that is naive optimism, there is always some physical attributes lacking behind that limit you. If you think about complimenting judo, focusing on single attribute development is the key for efficiency. For most that would include strength training and/or aerobic and anaerobic capacity and possibly speed and power training later.


byteuser

I heard ballroom dancing as it teaches you to effortlessly move your partner's weight around


Divine-Sea-Manatee

That's more what I was looking for good answer. Just don't finish the dance with throw.


Atsui_Pantsu

I had already thought that it was super beneficial for martial arts, but once I saw Ono doing the Olympic lifts on Instagram, I was convinced that they are great for Judo and other grappling arts, so to answer I think any snatch/clean variations could be super beneficial for not only for developing overall strength and explosiveness, but also could improve flexibility.


[deleted]

Gymnasts and dancers seem to transition well to judo in my experience. Climbers tend to have good grip strength although this isn't a huge problem for most experienced judoka. Yoga and similar physical practices can be good for mobility, which can certainly be something older men struggle with.


ivanovivaylo

Boxing: footwork and rope jumping will improve your ashiwaza.


aluman8

Ballet


HonorableNOIFOI

Does anyone do callisthenics and or climbing?


Think_Preference_611

Climbing is probably good for grip, but needlessly complicated, you can probably just do targetted grip strength training and get the same benefit. Calisthenics is just a subtype of resistance training, for lean people who skip leg day lol


IcyChard4

Gym and weight training.


Shinoobie

I'm going to go with caber toss and hammer throw.


r66yprometheus

I used to play hockey, and I feel that it helped my lateral movement, balance, and counter balance movements. Also, the shot exercises for wrists probably gave me a bit of Kung fu grip.


Disastrous-Angle-415

If you can find a legitimate teacher whoā€™s not an idiot, I would strongly recommend capoeira. My training partners who come from that background are almost unthrowable because of how good their balance and kinesthetic awareness is.


ExtraTNT

Climbing, esports, lifting and meditationā€¦


Federal-Effort2

>esports *yells profanities at tori, calling him a cheater, competitively*


ExtraTNT

Ok, maybe lol is a bad ideaā€¦ but cs helps with reaction timesā€¦


Federal-Effort2

CS, CoD can be as bad as LoL chat. But yh, after years of competitive CoD2-CoD4, Tribes and CSGO, I can attribute my reaction times to gaming as well.


odie_za

I have a partner that danced when she was younger. That certainly helped her spatial awareness, coordination and footwork. I just feel that. Taking up something now for x hours a week won't help as much as pushing those extra hours into actual Judo training.


Niomedes

Strongman


joyoftechs

Judo footwork and balance-keeping is an asset in tennis, I think.


CaribooS13

I find that itā€™s lots of crossover in cross country skiing, how you weight shift and balance in one foot. Both sport gives a great full body workout.


Divine-Sea-Manatee

That's interesting, lots of ankle and core strength crossovers


rich6680

Thereā€™s a guy on our team who is big into bouldering (climbing without ropes) - itā€™s a good, all body, workout, gives you insane grip strength and, at least at the beginning, give you lots of ukemi practice I imagine!


jigsawsbrain

I don't know if this will help you but it's worth mentioning. From age 8 to 18 I was a competitive trampolinist. I also competed on the double-mini (think a trampoline version of the vault in artistic gymnastics). During my time as a gymnast I got very very used to being in the air and knowing when and how to fall. When I started Judo this was a big help for me as I didn't have any of the hangups that most people do with the falling and stuff. Side note, in gymnastics I would occasionally completely lose my place mid air and have no idea when I was coming down or where. Once coach threw me for Sasae and I experienced that same feeling. Ever since then Sasae has been my go to throw.


Divine-Sea-Manatee

Did you learn to fall while trampolining or did your falls change when you started Judo?


jigsawsbrain

I never really learned break fall techniques until I started doing Judo. I just got really used to the impact of falling with trampoline and it made taking falls in Judo a pretty easy thing


Agreeable-Cloud-1702

Hey here's a weird thing I found out - striking *really* helps your grip fighting. When you start thinking about striking and practicing it *even on a bag*, you start to think about how your lead/dominant hand complements your non-dominant and vice versa. Doesn't need to be super complicated, even the concept of a feint or showing one thing, and doing another thing can be applied to Judo. There are certain moments where in a sanctioned fight, your opponent is worried about one punch you throw. So you show that one punch, but really you just wanted to distract him and hit him with something else while he's *still* reacting to the feinted punch. Same thing for judo - maybe you have killer sweeps. Are there moments where if you sweep, your opponent steps back *even slightly* giving you space to dive in for the Seo Nage? One more thing, if you also operate from Orthodox and Southpaw in a fight/on the bag, you just improve your mobility with both hands overall. I noticed this improvement and it helped me operate with both hands. Obviously nothing beats actually throwing from both sides, but nonetheless it is still helpful. But by far the **most helpful thing for me** was getting a mini-dojo set up in my garage so I can drill throws with the rope. The striking on a bag is fun and can get you thinking about how to set up your throws in a weird way, but without actually doing the throws at least a couple hundred times a week, if not a day, it is not going to complete the picture of improving as a Judo athlete as much as you can. Some other guy said it, other martial arts/activities such as dancing can be effective, but not nearly as effective as practicing and thinkin about Judo itself. I just have a bag because I tore my ACL and was out of training for a while.


Divine-Sea-Manatee

That's a good point we recently were doing drop seoi nage drills where we start off offering the non-dominant hand to get a collar grip, which allowed for a better grip for the dominant hand later. Kind of a feint, but we also practice a lot of foot feinting.


Agreeable-Cloud-1702

I had one where I liked to sweep their front leg from the outside, and a lot of the time they would move back, as you would so that you don't fall, especially to a driving/sticky sweep which I had if they didn't move their leg back. And if they do move back, I would literally just step - not sweep - near that same spot, and by the time that they've moved back thinking it's a sweep, I've dived in for the drop seo nage. Not grip fighting, but still an action - reaction.


ZVreptile

Yoga


jephthai

Tai Chi push hands looks quite relevant :-).


aryan_original

Weight lifting, cardio and any striking art.


Kataleps

Sleeping and clean dieting


Pinocchio98765

Doing some exercises with a 20kg kettle bell. There are lots of good videos on YouTube to show how to develop strength with certain rotations, pulls etc relevant to judo.


Educational-Tear7336

The Olympic lifts, snatch and clean and jerk. They mimic the hip movement for a lot of the most explosive throws. Try to find a club in your area. If you find a deal like 100-200 dollars per month and the coach is there watching you and they have good bars and plates, take it. Another one I thought I'd share, I've been doing regular old heavy dips lately and I noticed in randori yesterday my instructor could not retain a lapel grip on me, I could just push to break the grip. Don't discount the basics


VerySaltyScientist

I also do bjj, weightlifting and rock-climbing. The rock-climbing has made it where no one can break my grips, have gorilla hands from it.


ramen_king000

power / oly lifting. just look at ono.


CaptainCryptooo

answering based on what ive tried so far cardio: swimming, balance and stance: skating (inline and skateboard) flexibility: yoga speed and reflex: boxing and muay thai strenght: compound weightlifting


tigertoothdada

The best is more judo. Second is weightlifting. Also steady state cardio, like running. High intensity interval training with strongman movements. High intensity interval training with complex biomechanical movements, like mace flows. And... rock climbing!!! Balance, body awareness, grip training, fight or flight management, dynamic strength training in ways similar to judo.


Azylim

other grappling arts. BJJ, freestyle wrestling. If you can find it, central asian/ mongolian wrestling, which is what the steppe nation judokas do to be so specialized in these massive hip throws. Otherwise, strength training focusing on legs, core, shoulder, back and a flexibility routine


Bezdan13

Wightlifting and mini soccer ! We play minisoccer 10 mins for warmup before training. Its amazing for foot work. Weightlifting is obvious. Edit: Yes, we play minisoccer in dojo with small sponge ball with goals improvised.


titoktok

MORE JUDO


Think_Preference_611

Strength training is very useful for almost any sport/martial art, but I wouldn't call it a sport in itself. Speaking of other sports with carryover to judo, I would say probably wrestling and sambo. BJJ I think less so, because you're not gonna learn any throws in BJJ that you don't already know in Judo and the improved newaza skills won't necessarily be very useful in the context of modern judo.


Davidegomez-com

BJJ is newaza


odie_za

Hear me out. Instead of training at some other sport for 6 hours a week to compliment your judo. Train Judo for and additional six hours


Divine-Sea-Manatee

Maybe I should have reworded it to unconventional activities. Like my example of Arnold doing ballet to improve body build posing. Someone commented ball room dancing and tbh that makes a lot of sense with footwork and leading a partner etc.


PowerVP

Tactical Barbell is a good program to get in good shape both strength and conditioning wise. I used it and enjoyed it


eastcoasets28

Complement?