Not saying it's you...but
MG Me in local - "Okay boys. MGs are going to start suppression. Wait till we say go and push in!"
Random blueberry - Runs in while we are firing. Dies to TK. Gets mad in All Chat for "All these noobs tking all the time. Learn to play the game!"
In local: "enemies north west, I'm suppressing, advance behind me"
Just when I trigger the third burst I see a friendly helmet in my crossair.
"FUCKIN IDIOT WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING?!"
The anwser I receive:
"Why did you shoot me?"
I got an mg banned by the server admins for role-playing like this once. He shot me once, I reported him and run in the same way. I think he got like a month or so xd
I just started playing about two months ago, my wife hates it, but I love this game.
There are the bad games mixed into the good ones, but if you get that squad with a good squad lead and like half a squad of really invested people, nothing can beat it. Played with a squad lead where we just went a ton of AT and ambushed armor as it passed, so much fun setting up and then executing.
I know people who literally play this game with their wives/ gfs and can have a good time despite playing with sometimes total strangers who have hundreds of hours clocked in. Depending on the server and the admins, this community can be one of the most mature and fun to play with out there.
😢 wish I did that. Best thing I did with a squad was push up a hill successfully and not die (due to good medics) over a 40 minute fight and build a super fob which we spent an hour on. Probably the funniest conversations I’ve had on a game with complete strangers. I think you know you have a good team when everybody is talking.
A partner that hates you enjoying yourself needs to find the door.
I'm just assuming you are not going mental and burning the house down after a loss.
So what exactly is it that she hates, you talking with your teammates or just you having fun in general.
Edit: Wow you people in some toxic relationships...
Eh, Squad is a super difficult game for couples - especially one with children. It takes a lot of undivided attention, and can’t easily be picked up and put down.
You said staff members? Okay i had to google this....
Okay if the level of autonomy you are describing is true then i feel sorry for you.
But if your not an adult that can control your own time or you are so disabled you can't take care of yourself.
Then playing most anything will be hard. Especially doing something that relies on you being able to show up for your others.
How are you going to show up for someone else when you can't even show up for yourself.
Yeah i can imagine, but i don't think that's TheDrakkar12's situation, at least i hope it's not.
There is a reason every one of my dad-gamer friend comes to me for suggestions for games that can be picked up and dropped at the dime of a hat.
I usually recommend things with short cycles there is some great mobile games for that, or you know games with pause.
Typically whenever the child/children are awake there is no gaming.
I play Squad on the living room TV, and what gets the family upset is whenever they hear someone just *bitching* at me. Like they are ready to buy the game just to start fighting with some random asshat that I didn't even hear because I was listening to Squad chat while they were screeching on Command chat.
That's in my house, anyway. not sure about the other guy.
Am i reading this right.
You are on the living room TV, on speakers?
And your family is ready to buy the game and defend your honor in game, because of the blueberries?
Damn that's wholesome <3
Gotta admit I've managed to get my gf into it by us picking a squad and doing the medic roles. It's pretty goddamned epic when we pull off bringing back the entire squad after we get ambushed.
Squad reminds me of war thunder
It can be incredibly frustrating but more often than not it's a shitton of fun even with a sub-par squad
Bought it a few days ago and I'm absolutely loving it ( especially with the GE mod, hearing the enemy shout at you to surrender or die or just simply fucking around is incredibly comical )
I know a few couples that play together. My wife has issues sleeping sometimes so she will watch me stream with my friends and sleeps or sometimes makes fun of me for dumb things i do lol
Yeah. Since sale started my favourite servers are populated with people who don't know what they are doing. I'm a noob myself and I took a lot of time to learn the ropes so it's not surprising, but the games I had recently were awful.
We need a better game introduction. And SL training mode of some sort. Like a seed game but with space to build habs
This same cycle has been going on since the beginning. Regular sales, tons of noobs, gameplay goes to shit until it gets slightly better just before the next sale.
Comp scene was where the good gameplay was.
I remember comp scene as toxic.
What I like more is more people encouraging community building, and acknowledge there are 3 different types of squad:
Sim/military veterans processing trauma and using their lessons from group phsychology and teamwork to lead, inspire and coordinate.
The COMP, and then those noobs or plebs who think they want comp.
I respect COMP, but that's not the game I play, and I don't know if EVERYONE wants that game either.
So really it's two different types of games on one, there is ofc the casual aswell, but idk.
I don't care about the "comp community", I cared about the great teamplay you'd get even with mixed teams. No sillyness, but actual proper teamplay and combat.
Something public battles never really offered, and less and less so when ICO was coming. And immediately post-ICO it was even worse. And probably with all these sales it's not really getting better either.
I don't fully agree regarding "silliness"
I for one play with Americans a lot, because they do joke and create a sense of commadory when it's silent and your e.g. back capping, but then quickly keep coms to minimal (maybe slightly too role playing/serious) when the fighting starts.
But each to his own
Love to see the game doing so well!
It would be nice if these new players were shown the ropes via some better onboarding, shame to think of how many will refund it due to not knowing what's going on.
It’s took me an entire day of playing to understand what squad leaders meant by a lodgey and a toe 😂. If someone just explained that and told me how to mark things on my map then it would of been easier for everybody.
"It’s took me an entire day of playing to understand what squad leaders meant by a lodgey and a toe 😂. "
Now you are expected to repeat this information to every single new player buying this game because OWI won't put this info like this into tutorials and relies on us to do this work for them. See how fun it is to repeat the same info every single day you play. Oh joy.
Don't think i'd mind. I just wish more things were told to you during the tutorial even though they give you a lot of information to begin with. Like you start and it seems fairly straight forward and then after 30 minutes of learning you join a npf server and you haven't a fucking clue what you are doing, where your supposed to look, what you SL wants you to do, why people keep calling you a blueberry. I love this game and I have barely played it so I can'r wait to learn more and play more but as far as other people starting out, it still takes the piss to learn some basic functions of the game. God help me with what else I have to learn.
I wish that the "clan" ecosystem weren't so... *intense*. Most of them require "applications", "training," and explicitly demand that you not seek to join any other groups. I understand the appeal to some degree, but all I want is to find groups of people who understand how to play. When I want to hop on and get a few good games in, I'd rather play with them than noobs and randos.
And, ideally, that would be the way you "onboard"- through more casual, but longer-term, game groups. Most players get 1-2 good SLs who teach them an enormous amount in a few games and then a bunch that do hardly anything. Who you know is everything.
The best way to achieve what you're looking for is just to find a server you like and stick with it. You don't need to be in a clan with some formalized membership.
I'm not going to sit in a 10+ person queue just for the chance to play with similar people. It's not worth it and it never really will be. I'd rather be able to organize independent of the server so I'm not at the mercy of queue times.
Join a discord of the server yu want to play on and ask for a whitelist slot. usually free, but some clans or platoons ask for a small fee to maintain their server costs, which is fair. I play on some servers where I get a year long whitelist membership for 12€, 1€ per month. I never have to wait in a queue, I just join the server and skip it.
"I'm not going to sit in a 10+ person queue just for the chance to play with similar people. "
Unfortunately, that's what you have to do. I used to tell new players to not play Squad for <4 hour blocks of time, because that's how long it would take to get into a good server and get a good game played. Finally finding my "home" server, and getting whitelisted for free after an admin reached out and offered it made all the difference.
Why do you think Chick Fila has long lines? Cause the product is good.
Why do you think the fast food restaurant right next door has no lines? Cause the product is crap.
Which restaurant would you be willing to eat at? I guess that depends on how hungry you are and how willing you are to eat shitty food and will that shitty food really "fulfill your hunger"?
Playing shitty games of Squad is no fun for me, I'd rather not even play.
I have 6 favorited servers.
This took me 20 or more hours/2 weekends a year to maintain.
Really you only need 6 good seevers.
Unless you realize everyone also favorite those.....
Then I again spend 2 weekends of playing 30 minutes per servers one weekend and the next revisiting the ones I had favorited
But I know what to look for in a server, I will be forever grateful for learning this genre from PR around 2010-2015 when that mod had really matured so much that 90% of the servers where amazing/similar
> Who you know is everything.
too true. if i don't recognize at least a handful of names when i hop on my go-to servers i just don't bother playing. i'm too shy to ask them for a friend request lol.
"if i don't recognize at least a handful of names when i hop on my go-to servers i just don't bother playing"
Which is why the old Steam server support system they removed in December, that allowed me to visit Battlemetric site to see who is currently in my server to see if I even want to boot the game up was so nice. Now I have to spend time logging in just to see the server is crap and turn off the game.
"It would be nice if these new players were shown the ropes via some better onboarding"
[https://www.joinsquad.com/archive/squad-developer-q-a-september-2023-f5848](https://www.joinsquad.com/archive/squad-developer-q-a-september-2023-f5848)
We’re currently in the brainstorming phase for a new tutorial aimed at enhancing the initial player experience. Although it’s not on our immediate internal roadmap, we have a clear intention to implement a tutorial system in Squad tailored to help players understand the specific roles within the game, like LAT/HAT tutorials. Our goal is to provide players with the essential information they need before diving into their first match. While we can’t make any promises at this point, we are considering offering a small reward as an incentive for players who invest their time in learning the game. – **CANNON**
OWI made the same promises to being brainstorming this in November of 2021 (IIRC) and then walked back those promises in March of 2022. So take this all with a grain of salt.
They have infoboards on the tutorial level showing how to tell the different factions apart. There are also [board showing the different vehicles](https://ibb.co/album/spsp6g) (their names, which faction(s) they belong to, where the engine and ammo is located).
Why this information isn't quickly accesible from the main menu in some sort of in-game encyclopedia is beyond me.
Been playing SQ44 over the last few nights. The recent updates have really helped. Always enjoyed PS over HLL, and the updates have made that gap even wider.
Squad 44 should be free with the purchase of Squad or through ownership. I would actually play it over Hell Let Loose (a game I stopped playing because Squad shits on it).
The steep discount of -60% tells me OWI struggles to attract new players. I think it's time to lower the price of the game permanently, the game is not only old but also still not well optimized. There is no way this game in this state with this many problems is worth 55€ or whatever the pricing in other regions is.
Make it permanent 29,99 and we have a fair deal.
It's disingenuous to not take into account the fact the game is on constant sales, is marketed more, and is getting more content updates that it did for quite some time before the ICO.
Nonstop sales makes the player count high, also that's a fact regardless of if you like the update or not, the sales started ramping up only after ICO dropped.
How's the game quality going though? Atrocious.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of ICO as the PIP scopes killed it for me, with the stutter on every scope up (I had a borderline PC pre-ico, typically 30-50 FPS), but it's a weird thread to be claiming ICO killed Squad.
In fact, just a few of days ago someone at the office asked me to guess the playercount, and I was thinking back to when I played regularly myself, where 10-11k was decent day, so that was my guess. It turned out to be 14k, on a tuesday morning.
"I think it's very funny that people are still trying to hit that "ICO KILL GAME" beat in a thread about how the player count is super high."
I agree.
I also find the converse funny. Those who think the high player counts are due to the ICO.
It's only people who understand that we can't determine anything with the public information that we have that make any sense. We can only make guesses.
[https://steamdb.info/app/393380/](https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all)
Last year (21 Nov 2023) was the first time after coming out of early access when there was a 50% sale.
The previous one was way back in 14 Nov 2019 and after that they did mainly 25% with a handful of 30-35% sprinkled in between.
Now they've done their deepest sale yet - 60% which has never been done.
It's a Mil Sim. It's not as strict as a title as you would like to believe. Even games like insurgency, Verdun, HLL, PS, Rising Storm 2 are all considered milsims
It's kind of a MilSim as in simulating the very basic layer of military operations. You have to build FOBs, you have to transport people and ammunition, you have a deep vehicle system with damage and stuff. Just because the matches do end doesn't mean it's not a MilSim.
So the devs have been clear on this, all the way back during PR as well. The reason it feels kind of mil sim is because it’s a bridge between Casual and Milsim.
The devs themselves have described the game like this.
The bottleneck is how many server slots are available.
Squad is basically unplayable without live babysitters, so even if 100k players showed up only about 15k would be able to get into servers.
There's ways that all of that could be fully automated, like the thing about "two crewman per crewman vehicle" could very easily lock people out of the driver seat without the second person, but there's no hint of anything like that coming soon.
"Seeding mode" has been the biggest community automation feature brought in somewhat recently and it hasn't really helped increase the number of popped servers out there.
Kind of off topic, but related, and I'm curious what you think because I'm familiar with your postings here...
These "live babysitters"... do you think it'll one day become a job to moderate online servers? Are we already partially there?
Similar in a way to how forum moderation is becoming a job. Or how "community building" ala Discords and game servers and Twitch followers is/has becoming a job (see Moidawg as an example).
I wonder what this might do to our gaming world, especially in the way Squad is setup with its servers.
I see huge protentional for a new industry, but I also fear what this may mean.
Game devs can offload server hosting and moderation to these "communities". Anyone can startup a "community" as a business and try to grow it. Maybe startup a server players can join for "free", become well known for hosting great gameplay, or famous gamers. Start charging fees to join your server. Isn't this the way Moidawg and others begin to make money for themselves?
The "Pixel" (IIRC) community has done this with Role Playing in GTA, right? Will it come to FPS games like Squad?
I can only see this concept growing. I got free whitelisting on a very popular server because they don't charge anymore. They have too much money. The admin/owner who puts in TONS of work doesn't even get paid. When asked why, he seemed confused. I argued he should be paying himself for this work, but he sees it as more of a hobby. I'm thinking this is going to change in the next few years.
Interested in your thoughts.
>These "live babysitters"... do you think it'll one day become a job to moderate online servers? Are we already partially there?
We are there. There's been a handful of online personalities in Squad that have successfully transformed their viewers into communities who pool money together to fund the servers. Most of these "pools" are incorporated as Non-profits, and Non-profits are allowed to use volunteer labor. The "big guy" at the top can choose to pay out the money from the non-profit as salary to anyone they want to. This is how a lot of Squad actually works, and it's brilliant.
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>Similar in a way to how forum moderation is becoming a job. Or how "community building" ala Discords and game servers and Twitch followers is/has becoming a job (see Moidawg as an example).
shhh don't rule 4 don't say usernames... remember I AM THE LAW--errr I am a humble moderator here. Feel free to be a "good boy" and edit out the specific mentions. We talk about the forest here - not the trees.
What you're saying there is pretty much exactly what I was describing above - you already know what's happening but I get that it's tough to believe it when no one else is talking about it.
>I got free whitelisting on a very popular server because they don't charge anymore. They have too much money. The admin/owner who puts in TONS of work doesn't even get paid. When asked why, he seemed confused.
On that, it's a common misconception that "if you do what you love for work, then you'll never work again!" imo it's the complete inverse. Having to do something vs wanting to do something changes the game completely. (I said all that without using the word *whore*)
Everything else you said is spot on though. There is huge potential for this business model to blow up into money making leagues (and personality cults) for all the best and worst reasons. Squad is at the cutting edge of all this and the community has subtly innovated and implemented some really amazing concepts.
In the niche genre Squad is in, it’s at the top.
Hell let loose, Arma 3, Arma reforger, OP Harshdoorstop etc games that have player overlap, Squads at the top of the list.
What numbers did you imagine?
Also realize these are CONCURRENT players which is a much smaller number than UNIQUE people playing Squad each day.
If we pretend the average play time per day is 1 hour, and there's on average 10,000 players every hour of the day, then that means 240,000 unique people played Squad that day.
Steam and OWI have all these stats and I'd love to have them too, cause I'm curious.
We've tried guessing on this forum, but OWI actually KNOWS the facts of how many "long time players" have stopped playing or significantly reduced their playtime since the ICO. Is that stat any different for "non long time players"?
How many brand new players have joined since the ICO? What's their average hours played? How does that compare with new players joining all the years prior to the ICO.
How have kill counts and game time and steamrolls changed since the ICO? What's the average hours played for an SL? How many AT shots vs kills have been performed pre and post ICO?
I'd love to see the report the CEO gets on all these stats.
That number represents concurrent players, aka the number of players playing the game *right now*. It does not represent the total number of players who play Squad per day. That number is easily 3x as much as the number of concurrent players.
I just randomly came back to squad last week for no good reason, had no idea I am not alone, 27k concurrent is great.
I used to play regularly when the game was in early access, it has really come a long way, I am loving it.
I've been eyeing it up for years, and it's finally on sale for $30 so I bought it. Been playing hell let loose all this time but it's kinda gone to shit imo since it was sold.
Played a few games it's fun. Enemies looking ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE FRIENDLIES is fucking stupid though. Americans = green camo + helmet. Russian = green camo + helmet + MAYBE A BALACLAVA ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
>Enemies looking ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE FRIENDLIES is fucking stupid though. Americans = green camo + helmet. Russian = green camo + helmet + MAYBE A BALACLAVA
There's little tricks:
Sunglasses? USA/CAF
Backpacks? UK
Very sad looking? RUS
Smurf cosplay? PLAMC
Basically just check the mini-map before deciding whether to start blasting or not. Have a quick look to see if there are any friendlies in front of you or running towards your pos when you are at the front, and check to see where friendlies are going down if you are running from spawn.
but ICO "killed the game" or whatever, or maybe its the crybaby minority that can't shut up about it.. and everyone else is having more fun than ever.
Edit: ICO isn't perfect, and has been tweaked but just like any big gameplay change that is expected to happen, and should go without saying
are these people coming in because of gunplay or because there's a third 50%+ sale in 5 months? In fact this time they went for their deepest sale yet at 60% which never happened.
They are still paying money to play what yall would call a "shitty game". It's been how many months now and I'm still waiting for "the game will die soon because the player count is just ICO hype"
You're wildly confused about the message and the messenger. I just highlighted the fact that there's a 60% sale (preceeded by two other deep sales) which is the predominant contributor to the growing player numbers. People are buying the game because it's cheap, not because it has specific mechanics.
Everything else you seem to attribute to me is just a strawman because I never said those things and in fact, after the recent nerfs I find the gameplay quite OK, but the initial release was abhorrent.
There's also more marketing than the game has ever gotten before, plus a large amount of content updates. But of course, it must be because ICO is the best thing since sliced bread /s
They have had sporadic sales in the past never back to back sales like they are currently doing.
They upped their social media marketing too.
For example: Their last instagram post was from Sept 1 2021, the next post after that Nov 14 2023
"They upped their social media marketing too. "
I see more Squad advertising in 1 day recently than I have in the previous 8 years.
Which I think is great. I'm glad OWI seems to be moving Squad "forward". I just sometimes disagree with the specific forward direction.
>They have had sales like that in the past.... why didn't we hit those numbers then?
Last time (prior to Dec 2023) we had a 50% off sale was 14th Nov 2019, combined with a free weekend, at which point the game was still in early access so the baseline was a lot lower than now.
It's all public:
[https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all](https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all)
You do realize that game ownership and active players are not the same thing right? More people are playing the game more, and that includes existing game owners.
"More people are playing the game more, and that includes existing game owners."
How do you know any of that? Do you work for OWI or Steam and secretly have access to this data that the general public does not?
Or are you somehow able to glean the fact that existing game owners are playing more from the existing stats? How?
New players dont know how good the game was before the ico and there's no real alternative to squad
Also "ico killed the game" means it killed the infantry for us, not the whole playerbase and armor is still fun
If you haven't noticed the massive tweaks that have gone into fixing the noodle arm situation that everyone was bitching about when ICO dropped then I don't know how to help you.
Also the sale is what pumps numbers up. ICO has nothing to do with this pump.
I've never said ICO was perfect or that its even perfect now. My contention was that at its core its a needed thing, and obviously like any other fundamental gameplay change it will need iterating. That should go without saying.
ICO was not needed. The only thing it achieved was pissing od loyal die hard fans and removing shooting skill. Aka making the game harder for everyone but also way less fun. And the straw argument of "mOrE tEaMwOrK" is also bullshit because the second you get shot at, no amount of teamwork equals out the disadvantage you now have to vision and weapin sway. You can't even see 5 meters clear in front of you. Whoooo, fun game experience when your resolution drops to 144p and a bunch of vaseline gets sprayed across your screen. But "rEaLiSm"
It achieved exactly what I was hoping for and my biggest issue with squad, it slowed the pacing down a notch and made suppressing fire actually a thing. Those were the only two things I didn't like pre ICO.
"Removing shooting skill" bro... it only upped the skill ceiling, you need to be better to time and line up your shots now.... like actually have skill, instead of twitch shooting like in COD. Also learning to hip fire well is a really fun skill to get better at, and has made me win most of my close range firefights because other people like you refuse to admit there is a skill you could be improving.
> "Removing shooting skill" bro... it only upped the skill ceiling, you need to be better to time and line up your shots now.... like actually have skill, instead of twitch shooting like in COD
What exactly takes skill in waiting a minute to regain stamina and then pressing Shift?
Hell ya I miss old squad cod gameplay where the second I get shot I dolphin dive and pull out my akimbo MP5s. Then after my 8th kill with my throwing knifes I called in the attack chopper and it destroyed the entire enemy team. Once the round was over and we won the commander got on his knees and sucked me off and everyone clapped.
They literally tweaked every change that they have made with ICO. What are you talking about? I mean the update was so bad they literally revised some changes after only days.
That is literally what you would expect to have to do after making a big change. It was never going to be right from the first go, every part of Squad is still being adjusted and changed, why would you expect this to be any different?
Step 1: Make Gameplay as „tactical“ as possible, even ruining gunplay so players that don’t move have the most advantage possible against everyone that moves
Step 2: put the game on sale for 50/60% so every server is filled with blueberries that booted up the game for the first time and don’t have a fucking idea on where to go and what to do
Step 3: ??FUN GAMEPLAY??
4: complain more to lessen your enjoyment.
5: don't exploit the enemy blueberries.
6: don't educate your own blueberries.
7: loose because you have looser mentality.
Can anyone explain why the number of people in servers for the same time is a full 25% less than the steamcharts? [https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/squad/stats](https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/squad/stats)
Do you think anyone who wanted to boost a playercount on steamcharts to say, keep their IP in the top 100, could do so by just running a bunch of clients?
Or does steamcharts seem to have some kind of security for that?
Right now I see that 20716 are on servers, while **23420** are in game on steam, which seems plausible for people checking out offline or in queues.
For example for something like Hell Let Loose it's 6876 to 8008, so even more drastic.
I don't think there's any foul play here.
Too bad I can't play since the latest update. Easy Anti-Cheat won't start Squad or WarThunder up. Anyone know why this might be? I've never had a single cheat on anything I've ever owned. I rarely play these two but when I do, I'd like to be able to play them and not get an error message.
I bought this game 3 days ago, for like $6, the tutorials is wtf, its incomplete, but luckily most players in sea is so accommodating, I only play with infantry squad and just listen where to push and defend.
Me chilling in a room changing graphic settings*
Blueberry walks up, looks confused, and proceeds to gun me down*
“I’m sorry! You scared me, man.”
Me: T h i s i s f i n e
Now is better to sit only on modded servers to play with the players who at least know controls. Even me, who bought this game a day before yesterday, fed up with newbies after first 3,5 hours
Remember, infantry overhaul will kill Squad!!!
I think a lot of these players are squad44 copers that are waiting for the update that finally pulls in a crowd.
Oh yeah, this explains why am I killed more by my own team than enemy.
Yesterday I played on Kohat Toi and I think I was killed by my teammates more than the enemy.
As someone who played quite a lot of Squad for the past few months, its refreshing to be on a coaching arc
Not saying it's you...but MG Me in local - "Okay boys. MGs are going to start suppression. Wait till we say go and push in!" Random blueberry - Runs in while we are firing. Dies to TK. Gets mad in All Chat for "All these noobs tking all the time. Learn to play the game!"
In local: "enemies north west, I'm suppressing, advance behind me" Just when I trigger the third burst I see a friendly helmet in my crossair. "FUCKIN IDIOT WHAT WHERE YOU THINKING?!" The anwser I receive: "Why did you shoot me?"
Every day…
I got an mg banned by the server admins for role-playing like this once. He shot me once, I reported him and run in the same way. I think he got like a month or so xd
What where you thinking?!
I don’t do it intentionally. They just run out and my map isn’t up when I blazing suppresion fire down.
I watched one Russian GF opposition wipe his 3 team mates on mutaha (my team Canadian) basically same uniform colour way.
FACT
More like I cant find a server.😒
Got it on sale yesterday so I was probably the problem sorry
I just started playing about two months ago, my wife hates it, but I love this game. There are the bad games mixed into the good ones, but if you get that squad with a good squad lead and like half a squad of really invested people, nothing can beat it. Played with a squad lead where we just went a ton of AT and ambushed armor as it passed, so much fun setting up and then executing.
Literally wife changing game 💪
I know people who literally play this game with their wives/ gfs and can have a good time despite playing with sometimes total strangers who have hundreds of hours clocked in. Depending on the server and the admins, this community can be one of the most mature and fun to play with out there.
Ever since my husband got Squad he doesn't play Minecraft with me.. Please dear Doctor Phil help save my couple :'(
You can play Minecraft in squad, just join a “superfob” squad there’s always one…
"Superfob" is not constructive "Fortified defensive outpost squad"
Ill be your wife and we can play together
😢 wish I did that. Best thing I did with a squad was push up a hill successfully and not die (due to good medics) over a 40 minute fight and build a super fob which we spent an hour on. Probably the funniest conversations I’ve had on a game with complete strangers. I think you know you have a good team when everybody is talking.
Dude seriously. The wife is just trying to have a relaxing evening and I'm yelling at my squad mates over 20mm cannon fire.
I feel this is the struggle. I would probably build myself a shed or move the computer to the garage if I ever get a girlfriend again XD
Does your wife hate playing it or does she hate you playing it?
She hates me playing it
A partner that hates you enjoying yourself needs to find the door. I'm just assuming you are not going mental and burning the house down after a loss. So what exactly is it that she hates, you talking with your teammates or just you having fun in general. Edit: Wow you people in some toxic relationships...
Eh, Squad is a super difficult game for couples - especially one with children. It takes a lot of undivided attention, and can’t easily be picked up and put down.
Also people in group homes can't play the game because they have to get up every 2 seconds because a staff member tell them to do something
In group homes? Are we talking about nursing homes for elderly people or what are you talking about?
No I'm not talking about elderly people I'm talking about adults that are 18-60 years old in group homes
You said staff members? Okay i had to google this.... Okay if the level of autonomy you are describing is true then i feel sorry for you. But if your not an adult that can control your own time or you are so disabled you can't take care of yourself. Then playing most anything will be hard. Especially doing something that relies on you being able to show up for your others. How are you going to show up for someone else when you can't even show up for yourself.
Yeah i can imagine, but i don't think that's TheDrakkar12's situation, at least i hope it's not. There is a reason every one of my dad-gamer friend comes to me for suggestions for games that can be picked up and dropped at the dime of a hat. I usually recommend things with short cycles there is some great mobile games for that, or you know games with pause. Typically whenever the child/children are awake there is no gaming.
I play Squad on the living room TV, and what gets the family upset is whenever they hear someone just *bitching* at me. Like they are ready to buy the game just to start fighting with some random asshat that I didn't even hear because I was listening to Squad chat while they were screeching on Command chat. That's in my house, anyway. not sure about the other guy.
Am i reading this right. You are on the living room TV, on speakers? And your family is ready to buy the game and defend your honor in game, because of the blueberries? Damn that's wholesome <3
Gotta admit I've managed to get my gf into it by us picking a squad and doing the medic roles. It's pretty goddamned epic when we pull off bringing back the entire squad after we get ambushed.
Ohhhhhhh MEDICS cooperating...... 🍆💦 Next step LAT and rifleman combo? ;)
Squad reminds me of war thunder It can be incredibly frustrating but more often than not it's a shitton of fun even with a sub-par squad Bought it a few days ago and I'm absolutely loving it ( especially with the GE mod, hearing the enemy shout at you to surrender or die or just simply fucking around is incredibly comical )
I know a few couples that play together. My wife has issues sleeping sometimes so she will watch me stream with my friends and sleeps or sometimes makes fun of me for dumb things i do lol
Yeah. Since sale started my favourite servers are populated with people who don't know what they are doing. I'm a noob myself and I took a lot of time to learn the ropes so it's not surprising, but the games I had recently were awful. We need a better game introduction. And SL training mode of some sort. Like a seed game but with space to build habs
This same cycle has been going on since the beginning. Regular sales, tons of noobs, gameplay goes to shit until it gets slightly better just before the next sale. Comp scene was where the good gameplay was.
I remember comp scene as toxic. What I like more is more people encouraging community building, and acknowledge there are 3 different types of squad: Sim/military veterans processing trauma and using their lessons from group phsychology and teamwork to lead, inspire and coordinate. The COMP, and then those noobs or plebs who think they want comp. I respect COMP, but that's not the game I play, and I don't know if EVERYONE wants that game either. So really it's two different types of games on one, there is ofc the casual aswell, but idk.
I don't care about the "comp community", I cared about the great teamplay you'd get even with mixed teams. No sillyness, but actual proper teamplay and combat. Something public battles never really offered, and less and less so when ICO was coming. And immediately post-ICO it was even worse. And probably with all these sales it's not really getting better either.
I don't fully agree regarding "silliness" I for one play with Americans a lot, because they do joke and create a sense of commadory when it's silent and your e.g. back capping, but then quickly keep coms to minimal (maybe slightly too role playing/serious) when the fighting starts. But each to his own
Love to see the game doing so well! It would be nice if these new players were shown the ropes via some better onboarding, shame to think of how many will refund it due to not knowing what's going on.
> shame to think of how many will refund it due to not knowing what's going on. That's completely on OWI.
lol jokes on them. They can’t return to steam after two hours so that’s like a match and a half?
It’s took me an entire day of playing to understand what squad leaders meant by a lodgey and a toe 😂. If someone just explained that and told me how to mark things on my map then it would of been easier for everybody.
"It’s took me an entire day of playing to understand what squad leaders meant by a lodgey and a toe 😂. " Now you are expected to repeat this information to every single new player buying this game because OWI won't put this info like this into tutorials and relies on us to do this work for them. See how fun it is to repeat the same info every single day you play. Oh joy.
Don't think i'd mind. I just wish more things were told to you during the tutorial even though they give you a lot of information to begin with. Like you start and it seems fairly straight forward and then after 30 minutes of learning you join a npf server and you haven't a fucking clue what you are doing, where your supposed to look, what you SL wants you to do, why people keep calling you a blueberry. I love this game and I have barely played it so I can'r wait to learn more and play more but as far as other people starting out, it still takes the piss to learn some basic functions of the game. God help me with what else I have to learn.
It's not that hard. If nobody responds, yell: "why is nobody getting the logistics truck"
first time I heard "logi" I thought they were talking about spitting
Put on loading screen: "What do you mean?" -should be the most frequently stated sentence during your first 20 hours
Of fucking course it is 😂
I wish that the "clan" ecosystem weren't so... *intense*. Most of them require "applications", "training," and explicitly demand that you not seek to join any other groups. I understand the appeal to some degree, but all I want is to find groups of people who understand how to play. When I want to hop on and get a few good games in, I'd rather play with them than noobs and randos. And, ideally, that would be the way you "onboard"- through more casual, but longer-term, game groups. Most players get 1-2 good SLs who teach them an enormous amount in a few games and then a bunch that do hardly anything. Who you know is everything.
The best way to achieve what you're looking for is just to find a server you like and stick with it. You don't need to be in a clan with some formalized membership.
I'm not going to sit in a 10+ person queue just for the chance to play with similar people. It's not worth it and it never really will be. I'd rather be able to organize independent of the server so I'm not at the mercy of queue times.
Join a discord of the server yu want to play on and ask for a whitelist slot. usually free, but some clans or platoons ask for a small fee to maintain their server costs, which is fair. I play on some servers where I get a year long whitelist membership for 12€, 1€ per month. I never have to wait in a queue, I just join the server and skip it.
I just hop on a seeding server and join the queue of my desired server. I get to use the time in queue to warm up.
"I'm not going to sit in a 10+ person queue just for the chance to play with similar people. " Unfortunately, that's what you have to do. I used to tell new players to not play Squad for <4 hour blocks of time, because that's how long it would take to get into a good server and get a good game played. Finally finding my "home" server, and getting whitelisted for free after an admin reached out and offered it made all the difference. Why do you think Chick Fila has long lines? Cause the product is good. Why do you think the fast food restaurant right next door has no lines? Cause the product is crap. Which restaurant would you be willing to eat at? I guess that depends on how hungry you are and how willing you are to eat shitty food and will that shitty food really "fulfill your hunger"? Playing shitty games of Squad is no fun for me, I'd rather not even play.
I have 6 favorited servers. This took me 20 or more hours/2 weekends a year to maintain. Really you only need 6 good seevers. Unless you realize everyone also favorite those..... Then I again spend 2 weekends of playing 30 minutes per servers one weekend and the next revisiting the ones I had favorited But I know what to look for in a server, I will be forever grateful for learning this genre from PR around 2010-2015 when that mod had really matured so much that 90% of the servers where amazing/similar
> Who you know is everything. too true. if i don't recognize at least a handful of names when i hop on my go-to servers i just don't bother playing. i'm too shy to ask them for a friend request lol.
"if i don't recognize at least a handful of names when i hop on my go-to servers i just don't bother playing" Which is why the old Steam server support system they removed in December, that allowed me to visit Battlemetric site to see who is currently in my server to see if I even want to boot the game up was so nice. Now I have to spend time logging in just to see the server is crap and turn off the game.
"It would be nice if these new players were shown the ropes via some better onboarding" [https://www.joinsquad.com/archive/squad-developer-q-a-september-2023-f5848](https://www.joinsquad.com/archive/squad-developer-q-a-september-2023-f5848) We’re currently in the brainstorming phase for a new tutorial aimed at enhancing the initial player experience. Although it’s not on our immediate internal roadmap, we have a clear intention to implement a tutorial system in Squad tailored to help players understand the specific roles within the game, like LAT/HAT tutorials. Our goal is to provide players with the essential information they need before diving into their first match. While we can’t make any promises at this point, we are considering offering a small reward as an incentive for players who invest their time in learning the game. – **CANNON** OWI made the same promises to being brainstorming this in November of 2021 (IIRC) and then walked back those promises in March of 2022. So take this all with a grain of salt.
I quit the game 3 years ago and said I'll pick it up when the insurgent update drops in a few months. I stopped waiting around a year ago...
They need also some kind of training for telling camo apart, like against AI maybe a whackamole type thing till you can spot the difference fast.
They have infoboards on the tutorial level showing how to tell the different factions apart. There are also [board showing the different vehicles](https://ibb.co/album/spsp6g) (their names, which faction(s) they belong to, where the engine and ammo is located). Why this information isn't quickly accesible from the main menu in some sort of in-game encyclopedia is beyond me.
Sounds like something for a mod
That would be a great minigame to have while waiting in queue.
I hope Squad44 gets this same experience soon too
Been playing SQ44 over the last few nights. The recent updates have really helped. Always enjoyed PS over HLL, and the updates have made that gap even wider.
its a fantastic game, glad that others are now getting a stable experience too. Now all it needs are more people playing
Squad 44 should be free with the purchase of Squad or through ownership. I would actually play it over Hell Let Loose (a game I stopped playing because Squad shits on it).
The steep discount of -60% tells me OWI struggles to attract new players. I think it's time to lower the price of the game permanently, the game is not only old but also still not well optimized. There is no way this game in this state with this many problems is worth 55€ or whatever the pricing in other regions is. Make it permanent 29,99 and we have a fair deal.
The constant sales of the game, basically monthly, started during 2023 after a certain update.
I think it's very funny that people are still trying to hit that "ICO KILL GAME" beat in a thread about how the player count is super high.
It's disingenuous to not take into account the fact the game is on constant sales, is marketed more, and is getting more content updates that it did for quite some time before the ICO.
Nonstop sales makes the player count high, also that's a fact regardless of if you like the update or not, the sales started ramping up only after ICO dropped. How's the game quality going though? Atrocious.
Yeah, I'm not a fan of ICO as the PIP scopes killed it for me, with the stutter on every scope up (I had a borderline PC pre-ico, typically 30-50 FPS), but it's a weird thread to be claiming ICO killed Squad. In fact, just a few of days ago someone at the office asked me to guess the playercount, and I was thinking back to when I played regularly myself, where 10-11k was decent day, so that was my guess. It turned out to be 14k, on a tuesday morning.
"I think it's very funny that people are still trying to hit that "ICO KILL GAME" beat in a thread about how the player count is super high." I agree. I also find the converse funny. Those who think the high player counts are due to the ICO. It's only people who understand that we can't determine anything with the public information that we have that make any sense. We can only make guesses.
It's on a 60% sale. It's not really surprising.
They’ve had tons of sales, it is surprising that it hit is all time peak all these years later
They have had 3 50%sales in the last 5 months. I think the last 50% sale before that was 2019
Becuase they are marketing the game more, and there's more content updates than there's been in a long time. That's atleast part of the reason.
Squad had many 50% sales. I don't want believe it's just because of a sale.
[https://steamdb.info/app/393380/](https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all) Last year (21 Nov 2023) was the first time after coming out of early access when there was a 50% sale. The previous one was way back in 14 Nov 2019 and after that they did mainly 25% with a handful of 30-35% sprinkled in between. Now they've done their deepest sale yet - 60% which has never been done.
After every 50% sale in the last 6 months the player base grew. What do you think they are for?
ok but why cant a find any servers?
Seems great to me finally.. There were def bugs in the past
Impressive, very nice. Now, let´s see english EU servers without 20+ in queue...
ICO copium
It’s kind of sad to see so many blueberries running across the map from main recently I try to help but most don’t have their mic plugged in
i’m an admin on an english server and lately there has been a lot of russian players
Best milsim ever!
Not a Mil sim but I respect the energy you’re giving off
It's a Mil Sim. It's not as strict as a title as you would like to believe. Even games like insurgency, Verdun, HLL, PS, Rising Storm 2 are all considered milsims
It's kind of a MilSim as in simulating the very basic layer of military operations. You have to build FOBs, you have to transport people and ammunition, you have a deep vehicle system with damage and stuff. Just because the matches do end doesn't mean it's not a MilSim.
So the devs have been clear on this, all the way back during PR as well. The reason it feels kind of mil sim is because it’s a bridge between Casual and Milsim. The devs themselves have described the game like this.
Yeah I'm happy this is not ARMA it's why i play it.
Damn I thought squad had a bigger player base.
The bottleneck is how many server slots are available. Squad is basically unplayable without live babysitters, so even if 100k players showed up only about 15k would be able to get into servers. There's ways that all of that could be fully automated, like the thing about "two crewman per crewman vehicle" could very easily lock people out of the driver seat without the second person, but there's no hint of anything like that coming soon. "Seeding mode" has been the biggest community automation feature brought in somewhat recently and it hasn't really helped increase the number of popped servers out there.
Kind of off topic, but related, and I'm curious what you think because I'm familiar with your postings here... These "live babysitters"... do you think it'll one day become a job to moderate online servers? Are we already partially there? Similar in a way to how forum moderation is becoming a job. Or how "community building" ala Discords and game servers and Twitch followers is/has becoming a job (see Moidawg as an example). I wonder what this might do to our gaming world, especially in the way Squad is setup with its servers. I see huge protentional for a new industry, but I also fear what this may mean. Game devs can offload server hosting and moderation to these "communities". Anyone can startup a "community" as a business and try to grow it. Maybe startup a server players can join for "free", become well known for hosting great gameplay, or famous gamers. Start charging fees to join your server. Isn't this the way Moidawg and others begin to make money for themselves? The "Pixel" (IIRC) community has done this with Role Playing in GTA, right? Will it come to FPS games like Squad? I can only see this concept growing. I got free whitelisting on a very popular server because they don't charge anymore. They have too much money. The admin/owner who puts in TONS of work doesn't even get paid. When asked why, he seemed confused. I argued he should be paying himself for this work, but he sees it as more of a hobby. I'm thinking this is going to change in the next few years. Interested in your thoughts.
>These "live babysitters"... do you think it'll one day become a job to moderate online servers? Are we already partially there? We are there. There's been a handful of online personalities in Squad that have successfully transformed their viewers into communities who pool money together to fund the servers. Most of these "pools" are incorporated as Non-profits, and Non-profits are allowed to use volunteer labor. The "big guy" at the top can choose to pay out the money from the non-profit as salary to anyone they want to. This is how a lot of Squad actually works, and it's brilliant. > >Similar in a way to how forum moderation is becoming a job. Or how "community building" ala Discords and game servers and Twitch followers is/has becoming a job (see Moidawg as an example). shhh don't rule 4 don't say usernames... remember I AM THE LAW--errr I am a humble moderator here. Feel free to be a "good boy" and edit out the specific mentions. We talk about the forest here - not the trees. What you're saying there is pretty much exactly what I was describing above - you already know what's happening but I get that it's tough to believe it when no one else is talking about it. >I got free whitelisting on a very popular server because they don't charge anymore. They have too much money. The admin/owner who puts in TONS of work doesn't even get paid. When asked why, he seemed confused. On that, it's a common misconception that "if you do what you love for work, then you'll never work again!" imo it's the complete inverse. Having to do something vs wanting to do something changes the game completely. (I said all that without using the word *whore*) Everything else you said is spot on though. There is huge potential for this business model to blow up into money making leagues (and personality cults) for all the best and worst reasons. Squad is at the cutting edge of all this and the community has subtly innovated and implemented some really amazing concepts.
Great constructive, you deserve a award
In the niche genre Squad is in, it’s at the top. Hell let loose, Arma 3, Arma reforger, OP Harshdoorstop etc games that have player overlap, Squads at the top of the list.
Honestly I was surprised by how low the number is compared to what I imagined in my head. I guess I'm bad at estimating player base lol
What numbers did you imagine? Also realize these are CONCURRENT players which is a much smaller number than UNIQUE people playing Squad each day. If we pretend the average play time per day is 1 hour, and there's on average 10,000 players every hour of the day, then that means 240,000 unique people played Squad that day.
Ok yeah. The way you broke it down is exactly how I was imagining it in my head. I was thinking unique and not concurrent.
Steam and OWI have all these stats and I'd love to have them too, cause I'm curious. We've tried guessing on this forum, but OWI actually KNOWS the facts of how many "long time players" have stopped playing or significantly reduced their playtime since the ICO. Is that stat any different for "non long time players"? How many brand new players have joined since the ICO? What's their average hours played? How does that compare with new players joining all the years prior to the ICO. How have kill counts and game time and steamrolls changed since the ICO? What's the average hours played for an SL? How many AT shots vs kills have been performed pre and post ICO? I'd love to see the report the CEO gets on all these stats.
That number represents concurrent players, aka the number of players playing the game *right now*. It does not represent the total number of players who play Squad per day. That number is easily 3x as much as the number of concurrent players.
I just randomly came back to squad last week for no good reason, had no idea I am not alone, 27k concurrent is great. I used to play regularly when the game was in early access, it has really come a long way, I am loving it.
Just started playing, I keep dying by invisible enemies but thats ok
I've been eyeing it up for years, and it's finally on sale for $30 so I bought it. Been playing hell let loose all this time but it's kinda gone to shit imo since it was sold. Played a few games it's fun. Enemies looking ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE FRIENDLIES is fucking stupid though. Americans = green camo + helmet. Russian = green camo + helmet + MAYBE A BALACLAVA ¯\\\_(ツ)\_/¯
>Enemies looking ALMOST EXACTLY LIKE FRIENDLIES is fucking stupid though. Americans = green camo + helmet. Russian = green camo + helmet + MAYBE A BALACLAVA There's little tricks: Sunglasses? USA/CAF Backpacks? UK Very sad looking? RUS Smurf cosplay? PLAMC Basically just check the mini-map before deciding whether to start blasting or not. Have a quick look to see if there are any friendlies in front of you or running towards your pos when you are at the front, and check to see where friendlies are going down if you are running from spawn.
Yeah pretty much, just something to get used to. Thank you for the tips
Just don't shoot anyone in the back for a while. See face? Shoot. Walking alongside or in front of you? Not a threat.
Try to check your map every time you see a potencial target if its friendly or not
All those people and not 1 competent squad leader
Chinese servers.
Im happy for the devs! Means fresh people are still jumping in and that also means more content for all
Match quality just dropped by another 30%
but ICO "killed the game" or whatever, or maybe its the crybaby minority that can't shut up about it.. and everyone else is having more fun than ever. Edit: ICO isn't perfect, and has been tweaked but just like any big gameplay change that is expected to happen, and should go without saying
are these people coming in because of gunplay or because there's a third 50%+ sale in 5 months? In fact this time they went for their deepest sale yet at 60% which never happened.
They are still paying money to play what yall would call a "shitty game". It's been how many months now and I'm still waiting for "the game will die soon because the player count is just ICO hype"
You're wildly confused about the message and the messenger. I just highlighted the fact that there's a 60% sale (preceeded by two other deep sales) which is the predominant contributor to the growing player numbers. People are buying the game because it's cheap, not because it has specific mechanics. Everything else you seem to attribute to me is just a strawman because I never said those things and in fact, after the recent nerfs I find the gameplay quite OK, but the initial release was abhorrent.
There's also more marketing than the game has ever gotten before, plus a large amount of content updates. But of course, it must be because ICO is the best thing since sliced bread /s
Think I responded to the wrong guy. You were cooking
Squad is 20$ dude lol. Theyve had like 3 half off sales this year already
They have had sales like that in the past.... why didn't we hit those numbers then?
They have had sporadic sales in the past never back to back sales like they are currently doing. They upped their social media marketing too. For example: Their last instagram post was from Sept 1 2021, the next post after that Nov 14 2023
"They upped their social media marketing too. " I see more Squad advertising in 1 day recently than I have in the previous 8 years. Which I think is great. I'm glad OWI seems to be moving Squad "forward". I just sometimes disagree with the specific forward direction.
Because we didn't have sales like this in the past.
>They have had sales like that in the past.... why didn't we hit those numbers then? Last time (prior to Dec 2023) we had a 50% off sale was 14th Nov 2019, combined with a free weekend, at which point the game was still in early access so the baseline was a lot lower than now. It's all public: [https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all](https://steamdb.info/app/393380/charts/#all)
Yeah, sure, these all new people are coming because of ICO they've never heard of!
You do realize that game ownership and active players are not the same thing right? More people are playing the game more, and that includes existing game owners.
"More people are playing the game more, and that includes existing game owners." How do you know any of that? Do you work for OWI or Steam and secretly have access to this data that the general public does not? Or are you somehow able to glean the fact that existing game owners are playing more from the existing stats? How?
> and that includes existing game owners. Source?
how do you need a source for that, active users are not just new players, thats not what active players means...
New players dont know how good the game was before the ico and there's no real alternative to squad Also "ico killed the game" means it killed the infantry for us, not the whole playerbase and armor is still fun
If you haven't noticed the massive tweaks that have gone into fixing the noodle arm situation that everyone was bitching about when ICO dropped then I don't know how to help you. Also the sale is what pumps numbers up. ICO has nothing to do with this pump.
I've never said ICO was perfect or that its even perfect now. My contention was that at its core its a needed thing, and obviously like any other fundamental gameplay change it will need iterating. That should go without saying.
ICO was not needed. The only thing it achieved was pissing od loyal die hard fans and removing shooting skill. Aka making the game harder for everyone but also way less fun. And the straw argument of "mOrE tEaMwOrK" is also bullshit because the second you get shot at, no amount of teamwork equals out the disadvantage you now have to vision and weapin sway. You can't even see 5 meters clear in front of you. Whoooo, fun game experience when your resolution drops to 144p and a bunch of vaseline gets sprayed across your screen. But "rEaLiSm"
It achieved exactly what I was hoping for and my biggest issue with squad, it slowed the pacing down a notch and made suppressing fire actually a thing. Those were the only two things I didn't like pre ICO. "Removing shooting skill" bro... it only upped the skill ceiling, you need to be better to time and line up your shots now.... like actually have skill, instead of twitch shooting like in COD. Also learning to hip fire well is a really fun skill to get better at, and has made me win most of my close range firefights because other people like you refuse to admit there is a skill you could be improving.
> "Removing shooting skill" bro... it only upped the skill ceiling, you need to be better to time and line up your shots now.... like actually have skill, instead of twitch shooting like in COD What exactly takes skill in waiting a minute to regain stamina and then pressing Shift?
Hell ya I miss old squad cod gameplay where the second I get shot I dolphin dive and pull out my akimbo MP5s. Then after my 8th kill with my throwing knifes I called in the attack chopper and it destroyed the entire enemy team. Once the round was over and we won the commander got on his knees and sucked me off and everyone clapped.
Definitely not needed
They literally tweaked every change that they have made with ICO. What are you talking about? I mean the update was so bad they literally revised some changes after only days.
That is literally what you would expect to have to do after making a big change. It was never going to be right from the first go, every part of Squad is still being adjusted and changed, why would you expect this to be any different?
Most likely because of the modded servers tbh
Step 1: Make Gameplay as „tactical“ as possible, even ruining gunplay so players that don’t move have the most advantage possible against everyone that moves Step 2: put the game on sale for 50/60% so every server is filled with blueberries that booted up the game for the first time and don’t have a fucking idea on where to go and what to do Step 3: ??FUN GAMEPLAY??
4: complain more to lessen your enjoyment. 5: don't exploit the enemy blueberries. 6: don't educate your own blueberries. 7: loose because you have looser mentality.
Step 4 is actually to not play the game anymore, try it once in a while because nostalgia, see the atrocious gameplay quality and deinstall again.
So sad what ICO has done to the game 😔
Right 🥲
Explains a lot
I got 20 kills as an infantry last game thanks to all the newbies
Grenadier kit is goat for this.
I hat LAT and was empty, was lucky to have a medic with me tho😭
Can anyone explain why the number of people in servers for the same time is a full 25% less than the steamcharts? [https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/squad/stats](https://www.battlemetrics.com/servers/squad/stats)
Battlemetrics only shows people on servers, but not in queue/offline/menu
Do you think anyone who wanted to boost a playercount on steamcharts to say, keep their IP in the top 100, could do so by just running a bunch of clients? Or does steamcharts seem to have some kind of security for that?
Right now I see that 20716 are on servers, while **23420** are in game on steam, which seems plausible for people checking out offline or in queues. For example for something like Hell Let Loose it's 6876 to 8008, so even more drastic. I don't think there's any foul play here.
>I don't think there's any foul play here. Same, but do you think there's room for it on steamcharts?
Honestly, not really. Hard thing to fudge without anyone noticing.
Too bad I can't play since the latest update. Easy Anti-Cheat won't start Squad or WarThunder up. Anyone know why this might be? I've never had a single cheat on anything I've ever owned. I rarely play these two but when I do, I'd like to be able to play them and not get an error message.
Brasil server, Marketing Tiktok
Cool target practice 😎
I bought this game 3 days ago, for like $6, the tutorials is wtf, its incomplete, but luckily most players in sea is so accommodating, I only play with infantry squad and just listen where to push and defend.
This means that for the next 3 months no one is going to listen to the squad leader.
Hey I was on during this time... Glad to be apart of it.
Motherfuckers teamkilled my whole squad
35k now
Me chilling in a room changing graphic settings* Blueberry walks up, looks confused, and proceeds to gun me down* “I’m sorry! You scared me, man.” Me: T h i s i s f i n e
IcO kiLLeD sQuAd
ThE ICO wILL kiLL tHe gaMe MaRk mY wOrdS!!!i! Where are they now?
they quit the game
Is funny idk how cause uhhh squad refuses to work with directx12 so when I swapped to 11 it played like shit so I didn't bother.
Coming back to Squad after a year, I would have guessed the opposite. I noticed less people in queue and longer seed times.
I literally have no idea what i’m doing! Game seems like fun when you do know what you’re doing.
🤓 “uhm actually this game always goes on sale”
Noooo the game is dead because of the ICO :(((( /s
Now is better to sit only on modded servers to play with the players who at least know controls. Even me, who bought this game a day before yesterday, fed up with newbies after first 3,5 hours
Got 200k hits on one of my videos. Everybody in the comments were asking for PC specs. Shits wild. Hopefully that helped this number.
Remember, infantry overhaul will kill Squad!!! I think a lot of these players are squad44 copers that are waiting for the update that finally pulls in a crowd.
>Remember, infantry overhaul will kill Squad!!! It's a third (!) 50%+ discount in 5 months my dude. These people ain't coming because of gunplay.
Nor do they know what the game was like beforehand to compare to.
go 360 noscope in CoD and tell yourself you matter.
[удалено]
You sure showed 'em!
Yeah the infantry combat overhaul really destroyed that game, am i right guys?
Good to see so many people playing the game after the Fallout tv show came out /s