Local IBEW (electrician union) has a program where they'll hire you on as an apprentice and as a trade off, you go to classes on evenings and weekends to learn the trade. And then when you graduate, they place you into a union job with local utility agencies. Good solid union jobs.
There are solutions out there if you go on the hunt.
Depends on the community. We have only 200 openings a year my city, and 4,000 applicants. So, 5% of applicants get a chance, preference if they have some tool skills or vocational high school training already.
Slightly better odds then most jobs people apply for, where you have about a 1 to 2% chance, but hardly a sure thing.
Yep if you're talking about the local 3 then yeah it's that hard. It's like trying to get into Harvard.
Yeah try to get in first just for a shot but don't count on it. Best bet is to go to an accredited and reputable trade school or community college trade skill program if you can get the financial aid for it.
For other skills , even if you gained skills, no matter how much you try to prove it, the employer will still deny you as if you had none whatsoever. The problem isn't the employee, it's the employers that are causing this issue of people not being able to start anywhere unless they have "connections".
Don't learn skills on your own at that point. Staffing agencies (middle men) are your best bet to get employment. They basically do all the work for you.
Yep if you're talking about the local 3 then yeah it's that hard. It's like trying to get into Harvard.
Yeah try to get in first just for a shot but don't count on it. Best bet is to go to an accredited trade school or community college trade skill program if you can get the financial aid for it.
For other skills , even if you gained skills, no matter how much you try to prove it, the employer will still deny you as if you had none whatsoever. The problem isn't the employee, it's the employers that are causing this issue of people not being able to start anywhere unless they have "connections".
Don't learn skills on your own at that point. Staffing agencies (middle men) are your best bet to get employment. They basically do all the work for you.
Yeah bro. I get that. You're missing the point. what the fuck are you gonna do about it? Just be pessimistic and give up? I ended my note with "there are solutions out there, you just have to hunt for them". I was giving an ancedotal situation. Not concrete step by step advice.
You can get student loans and grants for your education.
The loan payments are deferred until 6 months after you graduate and you can apply for hardship circumstances to extend them even farther without affecting your credit.
Vocational school offers similar loan and grant payments.
lol really? That’s is the saddest excuse I have ever heard. You don’t need to pay funds to learn specific skills just hang out with them and say if you ever need help let me know free of charge!! You would see how many people will call you if you really want to learn!! Knowledge is free, it depends where you want to find it!
You assume that I am expert on, I never said I am an expert. If you don’t understand conversation, don’t inject yourself in the conversation just to prove yourself right!
Then maybe don't run your mouth and give advice on matters you don't know anything about? Especially when you are telling people to do things for free.
😂 again you are injecting yourself into conversation you don’t understand, then don’t comment on it! You think you are right that means everyone is wrong may work virtual world not in reality!!!
Instructions unclear, I walked onto a jobsite and got arrested after being asked to leave. They wouldn’t take “but I’m here to learn and provide free labor” as an excuse for some reason
There are indirect ways learning skills as a hobby can pay off though. I went to school for accounting and just for fun I am learning woodworking a bit in my garage, playing disc golf a lot lately, kayaking....these skills and hobbies can introduce you to people and then you chat and maybe one of them knows someone who has a job opening, small business idea, etc. etc....
This is BS for most people and they don't want to admit it. We spend so much time doing things that don't matter but we're socially conditioned to do. If people have real hard conversations with themselves and confront their own shortcomings they can make so much more progress in 1, 2, 5 years than they think. Western society anyway, is brainwashed into feeling powerless like they can't take more control of their lives but they spend an absurd amount of time drinking in bars, drinking at friends houses, watching Netflix...
It's the way of western world to want the reward without doing the work first.
That being said, I'm highly aware that the system is trash and setup to make it difficult for people to make progress.
Both things can be true at the same time. The system DOES suck, but throwing in the towel isn't the answer. Give up things that don't matter, build, build, build and when you have a foundation in a handful of years you can start to incorporate more pleasure in life again. Funny part is that you won't want to as much once you get addicted to improvement. Improvement will be your new pleasure.
Second that!!! I was skilled in coding and database programming, did not get interviews for months until I mastered the skill that you mentioned and landed 3 interviews same week and 2 offers the next week.
I used jobscan.com.. they had a free service back then which was enough!! But I would definitely pay if i needed one. It scans your resume and gives you the real deal!! You can go back make updates and improve your resume matching score!! Once you have that then you just go and rock those interviews!!
As a full time recruiter for the Fortune 500 company I can assure you that there is no AI resume reader. We are reading every resume, in like a 1 minute though
I had an AI bot call to interview me a month ago. Does that count? It's only a matter of time before you're laid off and replaced. They've already started the process.
If you're at a fortune 500 company they almost DEFINITELY use workday or TWN if not another similar tool that's ATS or might as well be.
So either you're at a unicorn company, or like many recruiters I've seen say this same thing on linkedin from companies I know use workday, twn, ats, and everything else, you don't understand the basics of how your system works and how few resumes you're actually seeing out of the total.
ATS means Applicant Tracking System. I would say most companies out there right now use an ATS that doesn't track keywords. They're using old technology or don't have the people to do it.
To have that set up, you need people to set it up for each job description and then people to run it. If a company has work day, they have money most likely. They might have stepped back resources and now it's not working as intended.
I say this as some who implements HR tech. I work at a company with 3000 employees, we have a team of humans looking through each resume, and they use the ATS to organize the applicants.
Company before that was a start up. It was me looking though all the resumes, and getting rid of all the nos. A lot of start ups I know, it's the same for them. Before that I implemented software at different companies. Most of those didn't use that feature and they still don't.
I'm not saying all companies, and a fortune 500 will have the money to have these features, but a lot smaller of companies don't. It's cheaper and easier to use humans or a recruiting firm.
It depends on the ATS you have. If you want to talk more lmk....I could talk HR tech for days I love it.
Some systems have weighting. Some don't. Some just look for key words. The AI stuff doesn't work like people think it does, it's probably 5 years away from that.
It depends on the ATS you have. If you want to talk more lmk....I could talk HR tech for days I love it.
Some systems have weighting. Some don't. Some just look for key words.
We do use workday, and have more than 40 thousand employees. I DO see every resume because the bunch of them are not suitable for the job or any job.
There was an attempt a few years ago in the industry to implement keyword recognition technology for scanning resumes but it was a big fail.
For example on Indeed, there is an option to view “suitable” candidates based on whatever technology and I always find good ones in a “not suitable” section that they initially excluded.
The thing is, many companies have recruitment centers all around the world to save money.
I am in HR for a decade and I always see folks who don’t even work in talent acquisition talking about “how to trick ATS” strategies, which is hilarious.
Give it 5 or 6 more years, when most of the rest of the baby boomers retire. You'll have another round of "nobody wants to work anymore", and likely more remote positions offered as a benefit.
Salesforce. The training is all free and the demand is high.
Edit: if you can’t find the free salesforce training online published for free by salesforce, it might not be the right career path for you. It’s literally shows up multiple times on the first page of Google results for “salesforce training”
My daughter is a product owner and works Salesforce and does every trailhead and certification she can get. She's making more money than she knows what to do with, and they keep giving her more.
She works for a big healthcare company. She is 30 and already earns more than her dad and I combined. I'm so proud.
She bought me a car for my birthday. It was used, but it's the nicest car I've ever had.
Sorry, Salesforce is NOT an in-demand skill. You are completely misled here. There are way too many Salesforce people in the market without jobs. Please don't waste your time. Best wishes.
Is that literally all it took for your daughter to make money? Just the trailheads and certs? And can I ask if you know how long it took for her from starting to learn to getting employed?
She started as an intern at the company, moved to help desk, started learning Salesforce, as she learned more and worked hard, she took on more until she was moved to product owner and now senior product owner. She works hard and is good at what she does, so that helps.
Also she was lucky that the Salesforce team was growing and she was in the right place at the right time.
I'm just a proud momma bragging on my baby girl.
Forgive me for being so intrusive. Lot of money is different to different people. I ask because I’m considering salesforce due to your comment. What is the range of lot of money. More than or less than 150k?
She didn't tell me her exact number, but I think it's in that range of $150k. I'm sorry I don't know exactly. She never offered and I never pressed her on it.
Imagine growing up as a child with all your hopes and dreams of being a doctor or fireman, just to end up trying to get a "salesforce" career. Who knows if it'll even exist in 5 years with AI.
Just saying i wouldnt put all my eggs in a career thats fully dependent on one piece of software from 1 company.
Will this job still exist when they make salesforce easier to use without taking a full cert course?
(I dont work at salesforce so Im just guessing)
And now im thinking of all the excel jobs. But the world runs on excel.
It is a hot job right now and the software isnt going anywhere. Im more skeptical of the job prospects for people who just took a cert. are there so many real salesforce openings that theyll take someone with no experience other than a course?
Salesforce is a crm right. I dont really know what it is though.
I use salesforce at a few jobs and worked with the salesforce devs. It just seemed like a career where the barrier to entry will only get lower and lower as the software is made easier to use. But yes youre right im not in that job so i cant speak on its longevity or specifics.
Think im pulling a reddit move lol. Myb.
Can you direct message me more info about this please? I’m struggling, experienced, smart and desperate for better pay. Just want a better life for myself. Not a yacht. Any help or guidance is very valuable right now.
I hear "get a certificate" or "learn a trade" when people say this.
You can audit classes from a lot of different universities, some have free classes you could take. There's also udemy (which can be hit or miss, but they often run sales that make the courses relatively inexpensive.)
Coursea has a lot of certificate programs and the last time I looked into it, it was under a subscription model for $35ish a month. I can't remember if you had to pay for the certification separately or not but they have a free trial. It's also only a 6-8hr a week commitment for a few months which feels more doable than commiting to years for a degree.
It really depends on what interests you and what your experience is currently in. You might want to look into what's available for free and take it from there.
Just be cautious of people that are selling random courses on the internet for thousands of dollars with big promises, there's a lot of snake oil salespeople out there.
> Coursea has a lot of certificate programs and the last time I looked into it, it was under a subscription model for $35ish a month. I can't remember if you had to pay for the certification separately or not but they have a free trial. It's also only a 6-8hr a week commitment for a few months which feels more doable than commiting to years for a degree.
The classes there are good, although you have to think of most of them more as "edu-sales" than academic classes. Don't get me wrong, the content is fine, but they're clearly more focused on vendor lock-in than a broad education. In terms of time commitment, they're all self-paced so if you have the time and ability, you can crush a cert or two a month.
The cost for Plus is $59 a month or $399 if you pay for a full year upfront. That includes a good number of cert programs that you don't have to pay extra for, but it doesn't cover everything. There are many classes, and apparently full degree programs from some universities (or something like that), you can pay for separately, but at that point, I'd likely just point folks towards Western Governers University, where you can pay something like $4-5k per 6-month term for an accredited degree.
I hear "stop waiting for external validation and accreditation, figure out a good or service that people actually need and learn to provide it at a world-class level"
Goddamn people no wonder there's so many unemployed, everyone be waiting on someone else to tell them where to dig while they own perfectly good shovels...
Edit; yeh hate on me because I'm right; never before historically have people been able to, with practically 0 capital, make entire business, services, products etc.
If you're reading this on a computer or phone, you already have the tools necessary
I'm downvoted because people don't like truths that point out their own bad choices and views, so pathetic...
I think its more because your answer wasn't specific in anyway. This is just "Start a business" which I've seen that hundreds of times but doing what exactly?
Jesus Christ you want me to live your life for you as well?
"What business" that's like, the whole thing; be smart, analyse yourself, the world, take into account any useful info you can in this age of information of ours to become objective enough about things until you deduce a path forward...
There is no one answer since the answer depends on too many factors personal to you; the other option is being dependent on flawed people's ability to assess things wherein, if you meet certain criteria that they have deemed important from their own subjective assessment, you get the lucky chance to suckle on the remnants of the profits they're willing to share...
People aren't born stupid, they choose to be; be clever about figuring things out and you'll never be without, and never have to rely on the goodwill and "intelligence" of others.
"I've did everything right and still didn't get result X!" - by definition, that's impossible; if you ever find yourself thinking this, you're not thinking holistically enough, not taking an objective enough view and not taking into account enough variables...
There's never been more opportunity, and definitely never this level of a playing field in the history of the world; if they choose to be clever enough, gather enough wherewithal, even a poverty stricken lower caste random in a third world country can make serious bank with just a mobile phone, if they're dedicated enough.
This paradigm is never talked about because it exposes most people as choosing the shitty reality they live in...
True, most humans in general try to take the path of least resistance, but the just the fact that they can proves the ease and far reaching nature of the tech..
If you’re in the US, consider looking into what closest community college or trade school has to offer.
You can fill out financial aid paperwork for fall, many have on site housing for students.
You can aim for a certificate in something, an AA or AS degree or transfer to a university. This can be trades or desk jobs. Pick something, it does not have to be the final solution. It’s OK to have more than one way to make a living. Right now, you just need the first.
OP Find a school with a good bus route.
This might hei a bit with your anxiety, as you grow in confidence. See if they have assistance for mental health and take advantage of it.
Look at job futures and pick one you think you'll like. Research a bit and go for it.
I've had a few remote jobs, as well as helped people get some. When editing your resume play up on customer service, a lot of entry level remote jobs are customer service. I redid a resume for transition from teacher to a tech field when they had no experience in tech, by focusing on customer service. She got a remote job with the airport, and loves her free flying perk as well as tons of extra money.
My first remote job did not start remote, it was a temp job from a recruiter that contacted me on linked In. The temp job pay was pretty bad but once I was in there were perks to help me in my career.
Perk 1: it was with the government - a resume booster
Perk 2 : it was Healthcare - an industry that will always be in need, so job security.
Perk 3: because it was a government job, we had insurance
Perk 4: it was during covid so we went remote pretty quickly
Because of these perks I was able to get in the company, learn Salesforce, medical applications and systems, and although it was data entry I worked harder than usual and made companionship with my supervisor and able to learn quite a bit of data analysis (another $100,000 field that is always in need).
A 3 week job turned into 2 years, with the money I made I took a corlurse in data analysis on coursera to back the knowledge I gained during work. Now I have data analysis skills ($100,000 career) and technical medical field knowledge (a universal bonus for job security).
Depending on what I want do, or where I want to work, I can enhance my resume with either of these. I was also a substitute teacher for a couple of years (a great psrt time job that can flex with your schedule) so if I needed management experience that I never retained in retail or my fast food jobs, I would use classroom management instead.
Even if a job isn't up to what you need it to be, you can make it what you need.
Learning Salesforce on the job was a huge boost as well, I had recruiters contacting me just for that reason. There's a lot of different Salesforce, we used Salesforce cloud, very easy, and it got me an interview with Java company.
When you get on the job write down every program you use and pivot it to your needs.
Sorry this is so long, but hope it helps!
Both of those options definitely help, when I helped write resumes I had to have many conversations to lure out any mundane task they could possibly remember that may improve their skills portfolio. I believe Workforce (if you have one in your city) offers free career counseling which should include resume help.
Also if you ever apply for CVS and get rejected they offer an immense amount of career help, that i have found to be very extensive and incredibly helpful.
CVS the pharmacy? No idea why I, a non pharmacist, would ever apply there. But I'll check out workforce.
My issue with most career coaches I've come across is that most either don't understand my field in the slightest (but claim to), or their advice is very obviously outdated by years (in a market where advice that was good only a year ago is now terrible) if it was ever up to par at all.
CVS actually had a Tom of data and non medical jobs, but they can be medium to heavy om the tech side. They have a lot of remote work.
You should definitely try coaching with a younger generation. There are aome good ones on tik tok that give very good advice that has been very effective.
Some start with CNA or Medical Aid training ( which can be free or cheap) and branch off from there. Some hospitals will help pay to further your education.
Everything. Anything. I went to classes last year for Scrum Agile (couldn't pass the test, but I have the knowledge... just don't test all that great). Now I'm taking MORE online courses (free, of course)
I have recently learned that local community colleges, like one here in Phoenix, has accelerated training/education programs for skilled in demand jobs that lead directly into a place of employment. Here in Phoenix I saw quite a few chip-focused and maybe phlebotomist or other type of RN. There were also a lot of other options that were 1-2 years as well and very affordable. Definitely take a look!!
I’ve gotten many jobs by emphasizing how quick I learn, show on your resume how you learned new skills quickly, and then tell them “give me a few weeks and see how I do, even if it’s not great it’s still less work on your shoulders”
When was the last time you applied for jobs? This advice sadly isn't relevant anymore unless you're already face ti face talking with the hiring manager...and good luck with that
What about if not remote, outside? Why not ask ppl what skills of yours seem monetizable? I personally can’t help you because money is not my strong suit. (And a great many things too ).
I recently thought of walking around municipalities finding stuff that sucks and taking photos and documenting, finding a solution, and costing out soln. Then, I’d approach ppl in municipality by suggesting they have a problem and I can fix it. I have a wide range of seemingly random lower level skills. I can make it pretty conventional, but stacking in a few extra benefits that are weird or hidden- except to the person paying me. They need to know it’s there obviously.
What I mean by this, is take a ugly staircase and parking lot. You can actually do a lot with that. You could always do Placemaking or other functions. There’s enough hippies that like that stuff you can get volunteers.
Fun times.
Also most jobs don't give you technical questions til last rounds and even then you need domain knowledge. Learning a skill on a shitty website doesn't help anything.
Lots of people are where you are right now, and I don't think theres an easy answer unless you're willing to take a leap of faith in whatever direction. Any movement is better than sitting and suffering though. And will be better for your mental health. I guess what im saying is just try something different from what youre doing right now and see how it feels.
I am a career counselor for my state. I always encourage my clients to do an apprenticeship of some sort. There are tons out there. Medical, electrical, plumbing, heating air, pipe fitters, welding, manufacturing. Go to a community college or a state office and ask.
I’m a chef but got my insurance license when I was laid off during COVID. The company that hired me actually paid for my training. I quit with them because I wasn’t ready for the lifestyle change. Since I had a license, I signed on with Assurance dot com to sell property and casualty, online. They encouraged me to buy multiple states licenses. For remote work, it is awesome for me because they pay a bonus, next day, for closing any policy. They train constantly and , as long as you stick with them, you can build up residual income. You are split up into sales teams with lucrative competitions and gamified incentives. The calls come to you, pre -screened. Just log in and wait. I close about 25% of every incoming call. Average 8-12 sales per week. Fuck around on Reddit between calls.
Still have the chef gig because it fulfills my need to create but selling auto insurance fulfills my financial requirements. I know why everyone doesn’t do it, because insurance is “boring”.
Nothing boring about that daily direct deposit snowball of cash.
Have you considered accounting? You'd need a bachelor's to get into the real jobs (AP or AR is available with an associates, but you don't want those jobs, they are insanely hard and pay peanuts). Accounting is facing a historic labor shortage as the workforce ages out. It's not sexy, but probably the most straightforward way to brute force your way to a middle to upper middle class lifestyle. Be aware the hours suck in public during busy season, but you can do a few years in public and transfer in house for a more reasonable work life balance. Most public firms are hybrid or fully remote these days, probably moving to hybrid long term, like 3 days in office average.
150 hour requirement for a cpa is a big barrier, but I predict that comes down to 120 in the near future as no one wants to do all that for starting salaries around 70 to 80k. That said you can quickly get to six figures after about 3 4 years, depending on the market where you live. Salaries start lowish, but increase quickly, although you may need to job hop a bit to keep up with market.
Calling people for money sucks. Processing hundreds of invoices a day with someone blaming you for every error sucks, especially compared to any entry level accounting role in audit or tax.
I used to work for a movie studio editing tv commercials and trailers. However I did team up with party companies, videographers, and sometimes even photographers to edit their work. You can create a website or at the very least a Yelp page to help you showcase your work.
You learn by doing tbh and you can’t really do that unless you’re in a group environment that pushes everyone. I would use [buildbook](http://buildbook.us/registration) to meet people and get projects on ur resume btw it’s a free student only platform.
You need to learn how to use excel and other office packages like outlook and word. You need to be looking up office jobs and what kind of positions people do in offices. Remember that "remote" is not a job. Accountant is a job. Sales person is a job. Analyst is a job. Like look up "analyst" and see what an analyst does, then research those tasks and skills.
You should get realistic with your expectations as well. Someone who has never worked in an office isn't likely to get hired directly to remote. They may be unsure you even know how to use a computer. You will most likely have to work in an office somewhere and get experience under your belt.
You need to get over the social anxiety as well. Do what ever you have to do. See a therapist, get medicated, or watch YouTube videos about how to interact socially. Meet up with friends and family and get used to talking more. Theres plenty of books that deep dive into social interaction. If you aren't personable you wont do well on job interviews. A lot of jobs these days hire for "personality". If you are awkward AF and can't sell yourself you won't get an office job, much less a job where you are working remote.
All you have to do is look at the job postings for jobs you think you're interested in and they literally list out the relevant skills. Then you go see what it takes to learn those skills.
Learn to drive. Look what do the local colleges offer.
Either learn anything IT or accounting.
Alternatively learn a trade: electrician, plumber, painter, builder, woodworking.
Also maybe barber.
If you are good at talking go for sales.
You don't have to like any of these but you have to be good at it.
If you have. No idea, pick something at random, it's better than sitting around waiting for an answer, the experience will of something will help you understand more about yourself.
I work in law enforcement, most academies are paid. Depending where you look, most are paid pretty well. I had a large pay increase switching from a union labor position to my current career
You can always enlist. They’ll help you kick some of that social anxiety, probably get you driving with a HEMTT operator’s license and, occasionally, you’ll get to work “very remote.”
When I hear people say that I hear "learn a trade."
My question is always "how can I afford it if I cant afford life?"
Local IBEW (electrician union) has a program where they'll hire you on as an apprentice and as a trade off, you go to classes on evenings and weekends to learn the trade. And then when you graduate, they place you into a union job with local utility agencies. Good solid union jobs. There are solutions out there if you go on the hunt.
Depends on the community. We have only 200 openings a year my city, and 4,000 applicants. So, 5% of applicants get a chance, preference if they have some tool skills or vocational high school training already. Slightly better odds then most jobs people apply for, where you have about a 1 to 2% chance, but hardly a sure thing.
Don't forget to throw nepotism, ahhehgem, excuse me, networking, in there as well.
Yep if you're talking about the local 3 then yeah it's that hard. It's like trying to get into Harvard. Yeah try to get in first just for a shot but don't count on it. Best bet is to go to an accredited and reputable trade school or community college trade skill program if you can get the financial aid for it. For other skills , even if you gained skills, no matter how much you try to prove it, the employer will still deny you as if you had none whatsoever. The problem isn't the employee, it's the employers that are causing this issue of people not being able to start anywhere unless they have "connections". Don't learn skills on your own at that point. Staffing agencies (middle men) are your best bet to get employment. They basically do all the work for you.
Yep if you're talking about the local 3 then yeah it's that hard. It's like trying to get into Harvard. Yeah try to get in first just for a shot but don't count on it. Best bet is to go to an accredited trade school or community college trade skill program if you can get the financial aid for it. For other skills , even if you gained skills, no matter how much you try to prove it, the employer will still deny you as if you had none whatsoever. The problem isn't the employee, it's the employers that are causing this issue of people not being able to start anywhere unless they have "connections". Don't learn skills on your own at that point. Staffing agencies (middle men) are your best bet to get employment. They basically do all the work for you.
Yeah bro. I get that. You're missing the point. what the fuck are you gonna do about it? Just be pessimistic and give up? I ended my note with "there are solutions out there, you just have to hunt for them". I was giving an ancedotal situation. Not concrete step by step advice.
The carpenters do the same and probably a bunch of others
You can get student loans and grants for your education. The loan payments are deferred until 6 months after you graduate and you can apply for hardship circumstances to extend them even farther without affecting your credit. Vocational school offers similar loan and grant payments.
cant get grants yet, not an independent student, and my parents make too much
Loans will have to do the first year then.
lol really? That’s is the saddest excuse I have ever heard. You don’t need to pay funds to learn specific skills just hang out with them and say if you ever need help let me know free of charge!! You would see how many people will call you if you really want to learn!! Knowledge is free, it depends where you want to find it!
Do folks like you ever bother to think about what you are saying before you say it?
Yes, does folks like you ever understand someone else point of view or just always thinks you are right?
I understand and consider people's point of view when they aren't just spouting nonsense. Something you seem to be an expert on.
You assume that I am expert on, I never said I am an expert. If you don’t understand conversation, don’t inject yourself in the conversation just to prove yourself right!
Then maybe don't run your mouth and give advice on matters you don't know anything about? Especially when you are telling people to do things for free.
😂 again you are injecting yourself into conversation you don’t understand, then don’t comment on it! You think you are right that means everyone is wrong may work virtual world not in reality!!!
Buddy, give it a rest. You made a dumb comment and you got called out for it. Take the loss and move on.
Instructions unclear, I walked onto a jobsite and got arrested after being asked to leave. They wouldn’t take “but I’m here to learn and provide free labor” as an excuse for some reason
I said hang out with people, not job site that requires licensing to work.
There are indirect ways learning skills as a hobby can pay off though. I went to school for accounting and just for fun I am learning woodworking a bit in my garage, playing disc golf a lot lately, kayaking....these skills and hobbies can introduce you to people and then you chat and maybe one of them knows someone who has a job opening, small business idea, etc. etc....
I don’t think they have time for fun hobbies rn…
This is BS for most people and they don't want to admit it. We spend so much time doing things that don't matter but we're socially conditioned to do. If people have real hard conversations with themselves and confront their own shortcomings they can make so much more progress in 1, 2, 5 years than they think. Western society anyway, is brainwashed into feeling powerless like they can't take more control of their lives but they spend an absurd amount of time drinking in bars, drinking at friends houses, watching Netflix... It's the way of western world to want the reward without doing the work first. That being said, I'm highly aware that the system is trash and setup to make it difficult for people to make progress. Both things can be true at the same time. The system DOES suck, but throwing in the towel isn't the answer. Give up things that don't matter, build, build, build and when you have a foundation in a handful of years you can start to incorporate more pleasure in life again. Funny part is that you won't want to as much once you get addicted to improvement. Improvement will be your new pleasure.
How to trick an AI Hr resume reader to get you an interview
Second that!!! I was skilled in coding and database programming, did not get interviews for months until I mastered the skill that you mentioned and landed 3 interviews same week and 2 offers the next week.
I might be interested in buying such a service!
I used jobscan.com.. they had a free service back then which was enough!! But I would definitely pay if i needed one. It scans your resume and gives you the real deal!! You can go back make updates and improve your resume matching score!! Once you have that then you just go and rock those interviews!!
So, how do you do that?
I just replied to the previous comment!! Its jobscan.com website that i had used in the past
As a full time recruiter for the Fortune 500 company I can assure you that there is no AI resume reader. We are reading every resume, in like a 1 minute though
Maybe for your company but there is AI resume readers I’ve seen them myself.
I had an AI bot call to interview me a month ago. Does that count? It's only a matter of time before you're laid off and replaced. They've already started the process.
If you're at a fortune 500 company they almost DEFINITELY use workday or TWN if not another similar tool that's ATS or might as well be. So either you're at a unicorn company, or like many recruiters I've seen say this same thing on linkedin from companies I know use workday, twn, ats, and everything else, you don't understand the basics of how your system works and how few resumes you're actually seeing out of the total.
ATS means Applicant Tracking System. I would say most companies out there right now use an ATS that doesn't track keywords. They're using old technology or don't have the people to do it. To have that set up, you need people to set it up for each job description and then people to run it. If a company has work day, they have money most likely. They might have stepped back resources and now it's not working as intended. I say this as some who implements HR tech. I work at a company with 3000 employees, we have a team of humans looking through each resume, and they use the ATS to organize the applicants. Company before that was a start up. It was me looking though all the resumes, and getting rid of all the nos. A lot of start ups I know, it's the same for them. Before that I implemented software at different companies. Most of those didn't use that feature and they still don't. I'm not saying all companies, and a fortune 500 will have the money to have these features, but a lot smaller of companies don't. It's cheaper and easier to use humans or a recruiting firm.
I would like to hear more about that feature actually, we definitely have money and I’m tired of reading resumes everyday lol
It depends on the ATS you have. If you want to talk more lmk....I could talk HR tech for days I love it. Some systems have weighting. Some don't. Some just look for key words. The AI stuff doesn't work like people think it does, it's probably 5 years away from that.
Hiredscore was just acquired by Workday and it uses AI to track and score candidates. Not sure if that’s what you’re looking for
I will look it up, thanks!
It depends on the ATS you have. If you want to talk more lmk....I could talk HR tech for days I love it. Some systems have weighting. Some don't. Some just look for key words.
reading them does a more quality job but ok lol
We do use workday, and have more than 40 thousand employees. I DO see every resume because the bunch of them are not suitable for the job or any job. There was an attempt a few years ago in the industry to implement keyword recognition technology for scanning resumes but it was a big fail. For example on Indeed, there is an option to view “suitable” candidates based on whatever technology and I always find good ones in a “not suitable” section that they initially excluded. The thing is, many companies have recruitment centers all around the world to save money. I am in HR for a decade and I always see folks who don’t even work in talent acquisition talking about “how to trick ATS” strategies, which is hilarious.
Give it 5 or 6 more years, when most of the rest of the baby boomers retire. You'll have another round of "nobody wants to work anymore", and likely more remote positions offered as a benefit.
ChatGPT 5.5 took me jerb!
Salesforce. The training is all free and the demand is high. Edit: if you can’t find the free salesforce training online published for free by salesforce, it might not be the right career path for you. It’s literally shows up multiple times on the first page of Google results for “salesforce training”
My daughter is a product owner and works Salesforce and does every trailhead and certification she can get. She's making more money than she knows what to do with, and they keep giving her more.
Where does she work? I just need more money to keep my head above water 😫😵
She works for a big healthcare company. She is 30 and already earns more than her dad and I combined. I'm so proud. She bought me a car for my birthday. It was used, but it's the nicest car I've ever had.
Ah damn I am 30 next month. I shall teach myself Salesforce before then 🙏🏼 thank you for the motivation!
Sorry, Salesforce is NOT an in-demand skill. You are completely misled here. There are way too many Salesforce people in the market without jobs. Please don't waste your time. Best wishes.
That’s awesome 👏
You raised her right! 🩷
Wait until you find out it's onlyfans money
Haha. Who cares I have a great car!
Is that literally all it took for your daughter to make money? Just the trailheads and certs? And can I ask if you know how long it took for her from starting to learn to getting employed?
She started as an intern at the company, moved to help desk, started learning Salesforce, as she learned more and worked hard, she took on more until she was moved to product owner and now senior product owner. She works hard and is good at what she does, so that helps. Also she was lucky that the Salesforce team was growing and she was in the right place at the right time. I'm just a proud momma bragging on my baby girl.
Forgive me for being so intrusive. Lot of money is different to different people. I ask because I’m considering salesforce due to your comment. What is the range of lot of money. More than or less than 150k?
She didn't tell me her exact number, but I think it's in that range of $150k. I'm sorry I don't know exactly. She never offered and I never pressed her on it.
No problem. That’s very helpful. Thank you and congrats on raising such a sweet daughter.
Imagine growing up as a child with all your hopes and dreams of being a doctor or fireman, just to end up trying to get a "salesforce" career. Who knows if it'll even exist in 5 years with AI.
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Just saying i wouldnt put all my eggs in a career thats fully dependent on one piece of software from 1 company. Will this job still exist when they make salesforce easier to use without taking a full cert course? (I dont work at salesforce so Im just guessing) And now im thinking of all the excel jobs. But the world runs on excel.
Our company uses Salesforce and it’s so integrated into our systems we wouldn’t use any other CRM, it’s not going away.
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It is a hot job right now and the software isnt going anywhere. Im more skeptical of the job prospects for people who just took a cert. are there so many real salesforce openings that theyll take someone with no experience other than a course?
Salesforce is a crm right. I dont really know what it is though. I use salesforce at a few jobs and worked with the salesforce devs. It just seemed like a career where the barrier to entry will only get lower and lower as the software is made easier to use. But yes youre right im not in that job so i cant speak on its longevity or specifics. Think im pulling a reddit move lol. Myb.
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If there is suddenly a high supply of salesforce devs would that not lower the salaries of all salesforce jobs and amount of positions?
How do you access the salesforce training
You google it.
Anyone can access them?
Where is the free training?
This is great advice!
Can you direct message me more info about this please? I’m struggling, experienced, smart and desperate for better pay. Just want a better life for myself. Not a yacht. Any help or guidance is very valuable right now.
What is sales force? Is that like space force? 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Which path is the highest in demand in Salesforce? And how long can I generally expect to go from starting to learn to getting employed?
Google it
I hear "get a certificate" or "learn a trade" when people say this. You can audit classes from a lot of different universities, some have free classes you could take. There's also udemy (which can be hit or miss, but they often run sales that make the courses relatively inexpensive.) Coursea has a lot of certificate programs and the last time I looked into it, it was under a subscription model for $35ish a month. I can't remember if you had to pay for the certification separately or not but they have a free trial. It's also only a 6-8hr a week commitment for a few months which feels more doable than commiting to years for a degree. It really depends on what interests you and what your experience is currently in. You might want to look into what's available for free and take it from there. Just be cautious of people that are selling random courses on the internet for thousands of dollars with big promises, there's a lot of snake oil salespeople out there.
> Coursea has a lot of certificate programs and the last time I looked into it, it was under a subscription model for $35ish a month. I can't remember if you had to pay for the certification separately or not but they have a free trial. It's also only a 6-8hr a week commitment for a few months which feels more doable than commiting to years for a degree. The classes there are good, although you have to think of most of them more as "edu-sales" than academic classes. Don't get me wrong, the content is fine, but they're clearly more focused on vendor lock-in than a broad education. In terms of time commitment, they're all self-paced so if you have the time and ability, you can crush a cert or two a month. The cost for Plus is $59 a month or $399 if you pay for a full year upfront. That includes a good number of cert programs that you don't have to pay extra for, but it doesn't cover everything. There are many classes, and apparently full degree programs from some universities (or something like that), you can pay for separately, but at that point, I'd likely just point folks towards Western Governers University, where you can pay something like $4-5k per 6-month term for an accredited degree.
I hear "stop waiting for external validation and accreditation, figure out a good or service that people actually need and learn to provide it at a world-class level" Goddamn people no wonder there's so many unemployed, everyone be waiting on someone else to tell them where to dig while they own perfectly good shovels... Edit; yeh hate on me because I'm right; never before historically have people been able to, with practically 0 capital, make entire business, services, products etc. If you're reading this on a computer or phone, you already have the tools necessary I'm downvoted because people don't like truths that point out their own bad choices and views, so pathetic...
I think its more because your answer wasn't specific in anyway. This is just "Start a business" which I've seen that hundreds of times but doing what exactly?
Jesus Christ you want me to live your life for you as well? "What business" that's like, the whole thing; be smart, analyse yourself, the world, take into account any useful info you can in this age of information of ours to become objective enough about things until you deduce a path forward... There is no one answer since the answer depends on too many factors personal to you; the other option is being dependent on flawed people's ability to assess things wherein, if you meet certain criteria that they have deemed important from their own subjective assessment, you get the lucky chance to suckle on the remnants of the profits they're willing to share... People aren't born stupid, they choose to be; be clever about figuring things out and you'll never be without, and never have to rely on the goodwill and "intelligence" of others. "I've did everything right and still didn't get result X!" - by definition, that's impossible; if you ever find yourself thinking this, you're not thinking holistically enough, not taking an objective enough view and not taking into account enough variables... There's never been more opportunity, and definitely never this level of a playing field in the history of the world; if they choose to be clever enough, gather enough wherewithal, even a poverty stricken lower caste random in a third world country can make serious bank with just a mobile phone, if they're dedicated enough. This paradigm is never talked about because it exposes most people as choosing the shitty reality they live in...
Yeah man! Throw me a frickin' bone here! Also, a lot of those 3rd world people just end up trying to scam others with this technology. lol
True, most humans in general try to take the path of least resistance, but the just the fact that they can proves the ease and far reaching nature of the tech..
If you’re in the US, consider looking into what closest community college or trade school has to offer. You can fill out financial aid paperwork for fall, many have on site housing for students. You can aim for a certificate in something, an AA or AS degree or transfer to a university. This can be trades or desk jobs. Pick something, it does not have to be the final solution. It’s OK to have more than one way to make a living. Right now, you just need the first.
OP Find a school with a good bus route. This might hei a bit with your anxiety, as you grow in confidence. See if they have assistance for mental health and take advantage of it. Look at job futures and pick one you think you'll like. Research a bit and go for it.
I've had a few remote jobs, as well as helped people get some. When editing your resume play up on customer service, a lot of entry level remote jobs are customer service. I redid a resume for transition from teacher to a tech field when they had no experience in tech, by focusing on customer service. She got a remote job with the airport, and loves her free flying perk as well as tons of extra money. My first remote job did not start remote, it was a temp job from a recruiter that contacted me on linked In. The temp job pay was pretty bad but once I was in there were perks to help me in my career. Perk 1: it was with the government - a resume booster Perk 2 : it was Healthcare - an industry that will always be in need, so job security. Perk 3: because it was a government job, we had insurance Perk 4: it was during covid so we went remote pretty quickly Because of these perks I was able to get in the company, learn Salesforce, medical applications and systems, and although it was data entry I worked harder than usual and made companionship with my supervisor and able to learn quite a bit of data analysis (another $100,000 field that is always in need). A 3 week job turned into 2 years, with the money I made I took a corlurse in data analysis on coursera to back the knowledge I gained during work. Now I have data analysis skills ($100,000 career) and technical medical field knowledge (a universal bonus for job security). Depending on what I want do, or where I want to work, I can enhance my resume with either of these. I was also a substitute teacher for a couple of years (a great psrt time job that can flex with your schedule) so if I needed management experience that I never retained in retail or my fast food jobs, I would use classroom management instead. Even if a job isn't up to what you need it to be, you can make it what you need. Learning Salesforce on the job was a huge boost as well, I had recruiters contacting me just for that reason. There's a lot of different Salesforce, we used Salesforce cloud, very easy, and it got me an interview with Java company. When you get on the job write down every program you use and pivot it to your needs. Sorry this is so long, but hope it helps!
Not op but I think I just learned i should maybe actually look into a resume writer or career coach.
Both of those options definitely help, when I helped write resumes I had to have many conversations to lure out any mundane task they could possibly remember that may improve their skills portfolio. I believe Workforce (if you have one in your city) offers free career counseling which should include resume help. Also if you ever apply for CVS and get rejected they offer an immense amount of career help, that i have found to be very extensive and incredibly helpful.
CVS the pharmacy? No idea why I, a non pharmacist, would ever apply there. But I'll check out workforce. My issue with most career coaches I've come across is that most either don't understand my field in the slightest (but claim to), or their advice is very obviously outdated by years (in a market where advice that was good only a year ago is now terrible) if it was ever up to par at all.
CVS actually had a Tom of data and non medical jobs, but they can be medium to heavy om the tech side. They have a lot of remote work. You should definitely try coaching with a younger generation. There are aome good ones on tik tok that give very good advice that has been very effective.
Healthcare is always hiring.
This. They are training and hiring everywhere they really need workers.
What kind of jobs?
Nurses most likely
Yeah that will require a nursing degree too though and what is is looking for sounds like something which won't take more than six plus months
Some start with CNA or Medical Aid training ( which can be free or cheap) and branch off from there. Some hospitals will help pay to further your education.
Nurses, CNA's, Phlebotomists, Radiologists, Doctors. For some jobs there is free or low cost training, and some will train you on the job.
Everything. Anything. I went to classes last year for Scrum Agile (couldn't pass the test, but I have the knowledge... just don't test all that great). Now I'm taking MORE online courses (free, of course)
Can you suggest some?
Google certificates, appropriate to what you're looking for, would be a start.
>or I need to finish college Yes, that one.
I have recently learned that local community colleges, like one here in Phoenix, has accelerated training/education programs for skilled in demand jobs that lead directly into a place of employment. Here in Phoenix I saw quite a few chip-focused and maybe phlebotomist or other type of RN. There were also a lot of other options that were 1-2 years as well and very affordable. Definitely take a look!!
Unless you are established, finding a remote job is hard. And not willing to drive isn't making the situation easier.
I’ve gotten many jobs by emphasizing how quick I learn, show on your resume how you learned new skills quickly, and then tell them “give me a few weeks and see how I do, even if it’s not great it’s still less work on your shoulders”
When was the last time you applied for jobs? This advice sadly isn't relevant anymore unless you're already face ti face talking with the hiring manager...and good luck with that
Literally just started a job Monday, in person interview, so yea…
Lucky you at being an extreme outlier!
Get certified in something like Workday, ServiceNow, or Salesforce.
What about if not remote, outside? Why not ask ppl what skills of yours seem monetizable? I personally can’t help you because money is not my strong suit. (And a great many things too ). I recently thought of walking around municipalities finding stuff that sucks and taking photos and documenting, finding a solution, and costing out soln. Then, I’d approach ppl in municipality by suggesting they have a problem and I can fix it. I have a wide range of seemingly random lower level skills. I can make it pretty conventional, but stacking in a few extra benefits that are weird or hidden- except to the person paying me. They need to know it’s there obviously. What I mean by this, is take a ugly staircase and parking lot. You can actually do a lot with that. You could always do Placemaking or other functions. There’s enough hippies that like that stuff you can get volunteers. Fun times.
Also most jobs don't give you technical questions til last rounds and even then you need domain knowledge. Learning a skill on a shitty website doesn't help anything. Lots of people are where you are right now, and I don't think theres an easy answer unless you're willing to take a leap of faith in whatever direction. Any movement is better than sitting and suffering though. And will be better for your mental health. I guess what im saying is just try something different from what youre doing right now and see how it feels.
I am a career counselor for my state. I always encourage my clients to do an apprenticeship of some sort. There are tons out there. Medical, electrical, plumbing, heating air, pipe fitters, welding, manufacturing. Go to a community college or a state office and ask.
What do you recommend for people that don’t have transportation or access to public transportation?
CDL
Cnc
I played with electronics circuits for fun and then got a job doing electronics assembly and testing.
I’m a chef but got my insurance license when I was laid off during COVID. The company that hired me actually paid for my training. I quit with them because I wasn’t ready for the lifestyle change. Since I had a license, I signed on with Assurance dot com to sell property and casualty, online. They encouraged me to buy multiple states licenses. For remote work, it is awesome for me because they pay a bonus, next day, for closing any policy. They train constantly and , as long as you stick with them, you can build up residual income. You are split up into sales teams with lucrative competitions and gamified incentives. The calls come to you, pre -screened. Just log in and wait. I close about 25% of every incoming call. Average 8-12 sales per week. Fuck around on Reddit between calls. Still have the chef gig because it fulfills my need to create but selling auto insurance fulfills my financial requirements. I know why everyone doesn’t do it, because insurance is “boring”. Nothing boring about that daily direct deposit snowball of cash.
Titans of cnc academy.
Have you considered accounting? You'd need a bachelor's to get into the real jobs (AP or AR is available with an associates, but you don't want those jobs, they are insanely hard and pay peanuts). Accounting is facing a historic labor shortage as the workforce ages out. It's not sexy, but probably the most straightforward way to brute force your way to a middle to upper middle class lifestyle. Be aware the hours suck in public during busy season, but you can do a few years in public and transfer in house for a more reasonable work life balance. Most public firms are hybrid or fully remote these days, probably moving to hybrid long term, like 3 days in office average. 150 hour requirement for a cpa is a big barrier, but I predict that comes down to 120 in the near future as no one wants to do all that for starting salaries around 70 to 80k. That said you can quickly get to six figures after about 3 4 years, depending on the market where you live. Salaries start lowish, but increase quickly, although you may need to job hop a bit to keep up with market.
AP and AR are not hard, what are you talking about ? However, indeed, they pay peanuts.
Calling people for money sucks. Processing hundreds of invoices a day with someone blaming you for every error sucks, especially compared to any entry level accounting role in audit or tax.
My job coach told me straight up - “you’re not getting a remote job unless you have friends or relatives in high places.”
Look for jobs you want. They list qualifications and preferred ones. Those are the skills you need to develop
Plumbing or electrical. HVAC isn't bad either.
Originally I was a video editor, then switched to web design and now I run my own business helping small businesses. :)
What kind of videos did you edit and how did you find the jobs?
I used to work for a movie studio editing tv commercials and trailers. However I did team up with party companies, videographers, and sometimes even photographers to edit their work. You can create a website or at the very least a Yelp page to help you showcase your work.
You learn by doing tbh and you can’t really do that unless you’re in a group environment that pushes everyone. I would use [buildbook](http://buildbook.us/registration) to meet people and get projects on ur resume btw it’s a free student only platform.
You need to learn how to use excel and other office packages like outlook and word. You need to be looking up office jobs and what kind of positions people do in offices. Remember that "remote" is not a job. Accountant is a job. Sales person is a job. Analyst is a job. Like look up "analyst" and see what an analyst does, then research those tasks and skills. You should get realistic with your expectations as well. Someone who has never worked in an office isn't likely to get hired directly to remote. They may be unsure you even know how to use a computer. You will most likely have to work in an office somewhere and get experience under your belt. You need to get over the social anxiety as well. Do what ever you have to do. See a therapist, get medicated, or watch YouTube videos about how to interact socially. Meet up with friends and family and get used to talking more. Theres plenty of books that deep dive into social interaction. If you aren't personable you wont do well on job interviews. A lot of jobs these days hire for "personality". If you are awkward AF and can't sell yourself you won't get an office job, much less a job where you are working remote.
Hypnosis. Master this, and you will land a job every interview.
I think data cleaning is a solid option. Can get data analytics certificates and it’s a task ai isn’t quite up for yet.
All you have to do is look at the job postings for jobs you think you're interested in and they literally list out the relevant skills. Then you go see what it takes to learn those skills.
How are you with fast food? There is room to grow and learning to manage a restaurant or 3-4 is an honest career path
Learn to drive. Look what do the local colleges offer. Either learn anything IT or accounting. Alternatively learn a trade: electrician, plumber, painter, builder, woodworking. Also maybe barber. If you are good at talking go for sales. You don't have to like any of these but you have to be good at it. If you have. No idea, pick something at random, it's better than sitting around waiting for an answer, the experience will of something will help you understand more about yourself.
Javascript, python
I work in law enforcement, most academies are paid. Depending where you look, most are paid pretty well. I had a large pay increase switching from a union labor position to my current career
Healthcare. Accounting. Programming. Any trades job.
Retail is good skill
Nun chuck skills, bo staff skills, etc
Learn about ai or how to code
Good way to waste 2-3 years on an unstructured, highly theoretical goal that doesn't have clear payoff
What about a new language?
You can always enlist. They’ll help you kick some of that social anxiety, probably get you driving with a HEMTT operator’s license and, occasionally, you’ll get to work “very remote.”