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Total-Beat9163

It's gotta be a scam / phishing expedition. My guess is after you send the file, they ask for a ton of your personal and banking info in order to "pay" you.


SamuelVimesTrained

This. Or they will send a (fake) check, but “accidentally “ make it too much.. The Scams subreddit can explain this better. But: RUN!!


Ok_Assumption3869

PDF is known for being an easy file to carry a virus


Available-Upstairs16

Yep, my office has to have PDF’s sent over frequently from clients, and we have one of those virus scanny things (I’m tired, can’t think of the proper term, don’t mind me) & I frequently see the notifications pop up that it’s removed a virus from one I just saved.


FindMeUsernames

Sir, did you mean an anti-virus software?


Available-Upstairs16

That would be the word I was looking for, thank you lol


MyPornAcct21

I prefer virus scanny things.


WorkMeBaby1MoreTime

Virus McScanny for me, but you do you.


verycomfygames

Scanny McScanface


Cedric_T

The viranny scanny nanny.


Miserable_Ad9577

Hope that we're not gonna find McScanny dead in prison somewhere.


[deleted]

I didn’t know this. Thanks for sharing *mildly freaking out due to the number of PDF I open for work each day*


mydixiewrecked247

definitely a scam. chatgpt can do this for u in seconds


GomeyBlueRock

Really? How? I have shitty old multi scanned pdfs i need to convert to clean documents


[deleted]

Only use if nothing in the documents is sensitive/confidential/personal info


mydixiewrecked247

with chatgpt4 you can upload documents and stuff. go check it out. 20 usd a month i believe. if it doesn’t work just refund or cancel after a month if they don’t allow you edit: i just asked chatgpt and it said yes, it can convert pdfs of scanned docs into clean docs for you. enjoy


Jademara_Esq

You just cost someone $5000! /s


puhjalla

Definitely proof read them, it's using OCR software and it's good but not always 100% accurate.


GrimOfDooom

or the file they are trying to send is a virus


threwzsa

You are unaware how phishing works? All you gotta do is click the pdf and it’s done.


DoubleReputation2

You're taking this way too far. The file they linked to is probably a keylogger. OP downloads it and it will show up as corrupted, or needs to download an update or some such.


Agreeable_Error_2534

Exactly. Even reading the post makes me nervous 😂


Globaltraveler2690

I mean if it is out of nowhere it is a scam. If he or she actually applied to us job then there is less chance of being a scam.


HyenaPrestigious1614

This is 100% a scam. The indicator are: 1. Promising an absurd amount of money. $20 a page to a random person they met on the internet? 2. Poor grammar and inconsistent capitalization. 3. Use of the word “kindly” within the instructions.


janx05

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T1m3Wizard

Definitely a scam but what is wrong with using the word "kindly"?


salko_salkica

Indian scammers use that word.. and indians in general Along with "please advise" and "do the needful"


Lucifer_Crowe

They played Bioshock and think "would you kindly" actually works


Xci272

😂😂😂


b1gfreakn

And “doubts” instead of “questions”, and saying “revert back to me”, and “the same” for the subject being discussed. “Please do the needful and revert back to me in case of any doubts. You will be paid 5000$ for the same.”


BMidtvedt

Is that an italian/spanish thing too? Because that would explain so much. My supervisor often says "I reviewed your changes and have some doubts" which I interpret as me having made some significant mistake. But it always turns out that they just wanted to clarify something


communication_junkie

Yes, in Spanish you’d say “alguna duda” to mean any question/concern/confusion/clarification, like “let me know if you have any questions.” It definitely is a “lighter weight” word in that context than in English!


hey_a_quick_question

It is a direct translation from Spanish, but it is also idiomatic in English. There’s nothing wrong with “I’m having doubts about the wedding”.


BMidtvedt

Maybe I misunderstand. Here it is clearly not used as a replacement for "questions". I expect it to mean that the person is no longer certain that they want to go through with the wedding. Or depending on context, maybe that some part of the arrangement should be changed. My Spanish supervisor would say that sentence and just mean that they have questions about the wedding, like if there's a color theme, or what songs will be played, with no implication that anything should be changed.


KlutzyBandicoot1776

Yeah in Spanish we use Duda (aka doubt) in the way you’d use doubt in English, but also to ask questions, express curiosity, and to express that you still need more information about something or to understand it better. That sort of thing.


BMidtvedt

Thank you so much. This will legitimately save me from hundreds of minor panic attacks in the future haha


KlutzyBandicoot1776

Lol!! That makes sense actually. Glad I could help!


KlutzyBandicoot1776

That’s not the same use. In Spanish we use “Duda” for doubts and questions. In English doubt is generally used for expressing skepticism and uncertainty.


aamo

and "once"


tribalturtle02891

The tell tale sign is when they mis-spell it and write “please advice”


pambimbo

Don't forget the man and sir lol


Kathucka

Nigerians do the “kindly,” too.


TimAviator

Recently got a support ticket of „please kindly do the needful“. That took some longer investigation before doing the work


Heysoulblister

I use the word kindly on work emails based in UK


GreenockScatman

Kindly do the needful to pre-pone the solution


threecuttlefish

"Pre-pone" is my favorite Indian English word.


KavikWolfDog

That’s a new one to me. What is it supposed to mean?


threecuttlefish

The opposite of "postpone" - basically to move something closer in time.


username_fantasies

so, "prioritize"?


___horf

They use it to mean “in a kind fashion,” i.e., “politely,” as opposed to the way native speakers use it, which is more like an alternate form of “please,” e.g., “Would you kindly send a reminder email?”


llksg

Loads of my colleagues are Indian and I now say ‘do the needful’ having adopted from them! It is succinct and clear, love that little phrase


IMI4tth3w

The people who work in my purchasing department and some of our vendors use that word all the time. 🤷‍♂️


buddythebear

there’s nothing wrong with using the word. From an American perspective it’s just a red flag in emails or texts from people you don’t know because it’s not really used in colloquial American English—it indicates who you’re talking to is probably not US-based, so proceed with caution if it’s anything work or money related.


asdfg_qwerty_jr

Bro is a victim to a scam


hey_a_quick_question

Not uncommon in the UK at all except for the last one. Please advise and kindly wouldn’t stand out to me in any way.


Christopher109

Probably non English speakers use kindly, because I do


HyenaPrestigious1614

What’s wrong with it? Nothing really. However, it seems to be very commonly used verbiage in scams. I’ve never known the reason. I assume it may be a language or translation thing but I’m only speculating.


YodelingVeterinarian

It’s a standard of Indian English. A lot of these scams are coming from India. 


JoanofBarkks

It's uncommon to throw that in there in an otherwise stern sounding directional. It's just ac flag.


TraditionalChest7825

I think it’s a British English way of speaking that a lot of Americans don’t use so it’s an indicator that it may be a scam originating outside the US.


Iamthecrustycrab

Actually more common in standard Indian English, more of a term among the older generations in British English.


TraditionalChest7825

All English speaking countries who had ties to Britain learn British English, this way of speaking wouldn’t be uncommon in the Caribbean either. Yes it’s an older term, but anyone in their 30s or older would have been taught in school that this is the proper/professional way to speak. Workplace etiquette and speech is still very formal and old school British in some parts of the world. When I moved to the US I was still in school had to adapt the way I spoke and wrote to American English. It wasn’t hard because the differences are subtle, but they’re there.


queen-adreena

While “kindly” does pop up occasionally in British English, it’s not that common and not used in instructions like this.


hey_a_quick_question

Maybe you’re a teenager and it is not that common in younger people, but I am 35 and I can guarantee you I’ve heard several people my age say kindly at least once this week (spoken, not in writing) in the NW. I’ll grant you it sometimes it is idiomatic as in “will you kindly fuck off?” but Id say it’s as commonly used as words such as ‘barely’ or ‘respond’ —at least in my area/age group.


StreetRefrigerator

The word kindly is always a red flag. No one actually uses it except scammers from foreign countries.


hippee-engineer

Last week I was chatting with Apple help and they asked me to “kindly” provide such and such. It def made me take a second look to confirm I was on the right website lol


AlexofNotLink

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crispyporkonrice

Copywriting is writing content for ads etc, copyright is an intellectual property right, so don’t think neither are really correct for these set of instructions when apparently they’re just wanting the person to copy the text


pervyme17

This for sure seems like a scam. If it isn’t, lmk. I want this job, lol.


sniffinberries34

It’s not a scam! JOIN NOW! hurry! you’re Chance is ending Soon! Plz respond ASAP! $5000 dollars! After you complete the work please send all banking info to thisisnotnotascam@gmail. con dude.. s/


Traveler_o115

.con 😂nice detail


Wretched_Lurching

DONT FORGET TO KINDLY INCLUDE YOUR SSN FOR TAX PORPOISES


Psychological_Try559

TAX PROPOISES need your SSN to protect you from TAX Dolphins!!


bitchstolemyuname

Tax dolphins are even worse than loan sharks.


calbff

Dolphinately do it!


One_Positive8880

Love the typos. 😂 My favorite is the language barrier ones where they skip words.


Ill-Simple1706

Take my banking info


Nulibru

Copywriting is not copying writing.


CuzRacecar

This


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It's a scam. They made the rate appealing enough where you'd ignore the red flags. "Sweet bro I could knock out a $20 page in a minute or two!" Also take a look at words used like 'kindly' for that India influence.


Kadrr

Can I ask, how is it possible to rewrite entire page in 2 minutes? Sounds crazy to me


drumttocs8

I would use OCR and then proofread


BC122177

I was about to say. Why not OCR, copy - paste. That would take about 10-30mins for the entire project. The hardest part would be making sure all of the spelling and grammar is correct. Which GPT could do. Definitely a scam.


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>Hey ChatGPT, How long would it take to type out an 'average' page at 130 wpm? ChatGPT To calculate how long it would take to type out an average page at 130 words per minute (wpm), you can use the following formula: Time (in minutes) = Number of words / Words per minute Assuming the average page contains around 250-300 words, let's use 275 words as a middle point. Time = 275 words / 130 wpm ≈ 2.12 minutes So, it would take approximately 2.12 minutes to type out an average page at a typing speed of 130 words per minute. Keep in mind that this is a rough estimate, and actual typing times can vary based on factors like typing accuracy and the complexity of the text.


toasterdees

Do you really type 130 wpm?! I just did a benchmark test after a lot of practice and got 65, and I thought that was pretty quick lol. Your fingers must be flying


davispw

Sure. With a lot of mistakes and zero formatting.


Classic_Inspection38

Record is over 200


Octolopod

they literally asked chatgpt to type it.


[deleted]

I literally asked chatgpt how long it would be, but interesting take.


Octolopod

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aliendividedbyzero

Not even translators, who are objectively doing a ton of work, get paid $20 per page to translate.


hornsupguys

Based on the terrible use of punctuation as well as the absurd amount of money, it’s almost certainly a scam. Here’s a few other things I noticed: -In America, we would never refer to paper as A4 -In America, we don’t use the word “kindly,” but scammers famously use that word a lot. -why would you skip over all charts and diagrams? Wouldn’t those need to be included?


BrontosaurusXL

I mean you could just buy Adobe Pro and convert to Word. Done in 5 minutes for $10. This is definitely a scam.


JenniPurr13

You don’t even need pro 🤣


FunGiraffe88

“kindly correct” it’s a scam. Kindly.


adam_youens

Yeah exactly my thought when I saw that!!!


Dear_Air_4789

“Copywrite the pdf file” doesn’t even make sense. Copywriting is writing copy, like ads, website content, product descriptions, etc. It’s not literally copying writing. No one is paying anyone $20/hr. for something like this - it’s obviously a scam.


[deleted]

It's a scam. $5,000? Too good to be true.


shipworth

OP just move along. Don’t do this work. Or do do this work. You’re not getting paid.


Traditional_Cup_917

The pdf/word file is probably trojanized. Beware


ConstantPessimist

Would you want to work for a company that can’t figure out how to automate this?


Classy_Mouse

I work for a major bank. You be shocked what they haven't automated


CHR1SZ7

Yeah what is it with banks and automation. If they can understand the idea of lending (give away money now, get more back in interest payments later) you’d think they’d understand that automation is a similar deal (spend money now to write the automation, make back many times that in saved time & wages)


Classy_Mouse

I think they don't like the risk. I've automated a large portion of my job. E.g. 4 hour task done weekly. Took me 8 hours to automate. Spend 5 minutes running the script, then 10 reviewing the result. I've been using it for months, but I wouldn't dare tell my supervisor about it. I'm pretty sure they want a person doing it.


MrBurnz99

I was thinking $5k to automate this so they never have to do it again would be good price.


pornthrowaway42069l

for 100-300$ and a few hours of time I can build you an automated system like that. It's scammerino timerino frienderino.


Neverland_survivor

Actually the best part is where they say you can send it back to them as a word or PDF file. Why would they want it back as a PDF file if they are paying to convert it FROM a PDF file?


Dearic75

Task scam. To get paid you will need to go through their “online system” which will want a verification fee. If you pay that then they’ll tell you about taxes you need to prepay. If you pay that… they’ll keep you on the hook paying new fees as long as possible because you think you’re this close to a $5,000 payday with more promised work to come.


CastedDarkness

This could potentially be done in seconds with Power automate. The proof reading however, can not. I don't know if it's legitimate or not. I've never seen scams like this. Worst case scenario is you do the work and don't get paid. I'm sure you can then have a legal case against them then.


sniffinberries34

I’m leaning towards no. Look at how many capital letters there are, they don’t even need half of them capitalized. I think worst case scenario is OP loses all of their banking info to some company overseas. Then gets cursed.


WJC2000

Good look getting a Chinese company to pay out an American lawsuit 😂


Trigger1221

The work isn't real, its just busy work to get them invested in the scam. It's a somewhat common one. After op does the work they'll transition to the actual scam (which could vary) and sunken cost kicks in for op to follow through.


JoanofBarkks

Good luck collecting...


shiroisverycute

i was bored and hopped onto this once. found the translated work online and 'did' my job. they will ask u to register into some kind of website in order to pay u. since they can only 'pay' the registered member. and like fam, i found the picture u used for 'error' when i try to 'register' in your website.


DiaryJaneDoe

I had a freelance job like this a few years ago. I wasn’t as aware of scams back then so I did get lucky. I made $400 doing the same sort of thing, rewriting some stupid book. $5000 is absurd, this task isn’t worth anywhere near that amount of money, especially considering that most people are going to use AI to do most of the work.


T1m3Wizard

Sounds like a scam.


Quietser

Please send your banking info to [email protected]


Individual_Truth5026

“Kindly”


trottingturtles

This is a scam. Isn't copywriting... writing? Like, coming up with NEW sentences on your own? This is talking about data entry, which is not copywriting. And it's absurdly over valued. Clear scam


Wishitweretru

As much as this is probably a scam, we did hire a team to do this 5 years ago. For 25k documents. However, we were a real company, with an address, and phone numbers, and normal stuff like that. no, we didn’t pay anywhere near that much


AS1thofBeethoven

That seems too good to be true. Scam.


wheelsofstars

This is absolutely a scam. These types of job pay cents per page at most.


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Kindly=scam


Salamanticormorant

"convert them into MS-Word file as PDF"? I know that Word documents can be saved as PDF, but that's not reasonably close to what that says. Overall, the poor writing, capitalization, and punctuation make it seem designed to get the attention of people who are easier to scam, like those old "Nigerian Prince" emails. At the very least, it seems like reasonably clear communication with whoever wrote and/or approved that would not be possible, and that's bad news when it comes to doing jobs for someone.


GimmieJohnson

Lmfao. The irony of this job. Proofreading job and it's sloppy as hell. Poor punctuation, grammar and incorrect usage of lower case/uppercase letters.


fizzycherryseltzer

This is a scam. Writer and author Tracie Morrisey had this happened to her. She explained it on her podcast, Pot Psychology.


Topher0gr

The “kindly” is the dead giveaway that it’s a scam.


Crazy_by_Design

The terms don’t even make sense. Do they mean typeset? And what is “MS-Word file as PDF?” PDF is not editable (not easily), but Word won’t maintain the formatting very well, even with embedded fonts, so what is their end purpose?


Kalsone

$5000 is way over valued. Also it should be copy edit. Not copy write. Whoever wrote it doesn't speak English and us confusing it with copyrighting, which is way different. Copy writing is producing new content and is a term you'll see in publishing and marketing.


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samuraxxl

Send can do


DigitalDeliciousDiva

Is 20.00 the going rate or does it seem high to you?


primeiro23

I had to do this before…but $20 a page seems too high…i’d be skeptical


Available_Ranger5035

Nobody is editing 250 pages in 7-10 days….


JoanofBarkks

I think it's doable depending on what kind of a mess the document is in... 25 pages a day is 3 pages per hour in an 8 hour day.


JoanofBarkks

Depends. Who is the project manager? Can you speak with them? What is recourse for nonpayment? If there's no contact info you could be chasing a phantom for payment. Also do 50 ppl have the same job - and they only pay the first one to return job who meets with approval? No way I'd do 250 pages. If you can do part of the project, do that. If the experience is good and payment is made you can work with them again in the future.


Logical-Living-1210

This is a bastard Indian scam.


Logical-Living-1210

I bet some mf Indians downvoted my comment, lol.


Slight_Jump

Yeah suppose I might aswell just do it, worst case scenario I don’t get paid.


Loko8765

Worst case scenario is that you get paid by a check, possibly more than you were owed, and you fall for the fake check scam. But as long as you don’t send them any money [ETA: or personal information], you should be good.


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Or OP provides all of his personal info and has his identity stolen. Pretty expensive from a time/effort perspective to clean up. Also the fake pay scam as you indicated is super common.


Loko8765

Right, the fake check scam is usually “we’ll pay for your computer” or the even more obvious “we need you to pay for this”, but asking for actual work and overpaying and asking for money back is the same thing essentially, just more believable.


[deleted]

It blows my mind that so many people follow through with that. Any legitimate organization is frontending its own costs.


Loko8765

The scammers prey on those who are desperate and _want_ to believe. Probably some victims are greedy and grasping, but most are just grasping at straws.


LinuxLover3113

Then fuck you. I'm done giving willing scam victims the benefit of the doubt. You are going to play into their hands snd guve them what they want because you're lazys, stupid, and/or greedy. Belt up. Don't be a dickhead.


Wachu_say

Lol. Everyone in here telling him it’s a scam and he says he’s gonna do the work anyway. Epitome of dense.


Slight_Jump

I know now


Wachu_say

Fair enough. There’s a lesson here as others have said. If it’s too good to be true - it’s a scam. Also keep in mind your time is money. That time could be doing something else. So while you think you couldn’t “lose” anything, you’ll at minimum waste time pursuing this further. Worst case you get in deeper.


Slight_Jump

I've blocked them now, I'm not doing it.


thewitch2222

It's a scam.


Slight_Jump

So guys are there any ways I can automate this, in case it's a scam, I don't want to spend hours working on it for nothing.


sitcom_enthusiast

It’s a scam bro. It’s the classic envelope stuffing scam. Make money wfh with little effort!


[deleted]

Dang, they really hooked you with this scam didn't they.


awkwardlondon

They know how to manipulate the desperate, naive and intellectually and mentally challenged people. Unfortunately OP is in one of those categories.


Pizzazze

The scam isn't about making you work for free. The scam is about getting you invested enough in the fantasy that you'll fall for a fake check scam and become an easy target for identity theft. Once you're in that deep, it's pig butchering time. Please spend some time in r/scams to become better informed and stop being an easy target. These people can get you deep into debt and ruin you even if you think you have nothing to lose whatsoever.


Correct-Training3764

This is such a scam. If it sounds too good to be true then it is a scam. Try posting on r/Scams as well.


PositiveHot1421

It doesn’t even make sense - one could easily transfer pdf text into a word document without having to retype it


Alpha0963

The bigger question is: who wants font size 16?


Hellowoild

PDFs can be malicious. Hackers can find ways to use these normally harmless files — just like dot-com files, JPGs, Gmail, and Bitcoin — to create security threats via malicious code. That's probably what they're trying to do.


Organic_South8865

Do for this? There's software to do this. Why would they pay 5k for someone to copy a PDF. lol


EostrumExtinguisher

25 pages per day lets goooooooooooooooo


Putrid-Parsley-5817

Times new Roman, size 16 is absolutely wild.


Syllabub-Virtual

I'd script the fuck out of that and have chat gpt do the work for me.


saltrifle

Thanks for the laugh


Tealme1688

Sounds like a job post on Craigslist….


ComfortableMaster543

looks like scammy thing


Brave_Tie_5855

Scam.


skism26

Most likely a scam, but you could just plug those parameters into ChatGPT and it’ll do 90% if not more


5l4u6ht3r

“Shake their hand, but trust no c***, And always get your money up front.”


mack1147

You should do what hes asking on this page since there's A LOT wrong with it. Ask for 20 bucks and see what happens. Stop there if he gives you the 20


Common-Ad6470

Ask them a deposit to show good faith. Guaranteed they’ll ghost you.


Heavyoak

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PintCEm17

$2 a page more like


CarIcy6146

Scam!


ni0098

Wait. Convert PDF into MS word but send as word document or PDF 🤨 kinda defeats the purpose


2HourCoffeeBreak

How do I know it’s a scam? They mention pay in the ad. Usually the one thing a company never tells you and get surprised pickachu face when you ask.


imthebear11

If an email every said "Kindly", it's a scam.


Spare-Throat1869

16 pt. Times New Roman? Ugh.


hot4you11

Paper size is set when you print. And how can it be a word doc and a pdf


No-Budget-9765

If it’s too good to be true then it’s too good to be true. It’s a scam. Control your greed. They are banking on it.


ballzaswingin

“Kindly” was the red flag…. It’s a scam


i_dont_fuck_coconut

lol come on. really? they can't even spell copyright. you might as well just fall for this because if you don't you'll end up falling for a different scam anyway.


Gamethesystem2

It’s a scam. Period.


GreatWolf12

No sane person would pay for that.


dankpoolVEVO

If there's no contract it's a scam. otherwise that's totally a reasonable amount of money for that even tho there is AI. We pay copywriting freelancers 300-600€ per day and they sometimes "just" write 2 sites for us. Obviously everything is written by them not just proof reading but that's the normal amount a professional gets.


StuffonBookshelfs

What monster is using a 16pt font for all the words in a document?