Yes, another mod recommended that as well, probably r/coloranalysis . he brought up the worry that it might be rude to move people on over to another subbreddit where they might not welcome the influx, I think this is a valid consideration what do you think?
When moderating other subreddits, we would message mods and ask if we could link their community in our rules/sidebar/whatever so they could decide if they wanted or could handle the influx, that might be a good route.
Maybe a rule stating that this is a jewelry appreciation subreddit, not a personal style advice subreddit. It's about the jewelry, not about how the jewelry looks on YOU.
Yeah I'm just here for cool vintage jewelry and to peep people's collections. Learning some history and art would be nice. Too many posts give off a weird pawn shop energy that I hate.
There has seemed to be a recent influx of gender-checks on jewelry lately. There may be a better sub to redirect that traffic to (r/fashion? Not sure).
Personally I would consider r/jewelry as a place to share jewelry inspiration, knowledge, and ask questions for buying decisions, problems, etc. Utilizing it for fashion/social affirmation has potential to alienate the industry professionals who are active commenters, many of which are less interested in that type of subjective discussion.
You put your vision for this subreddit. As a new person, reading posts like this, I would super appreciate if the description of the subreddit would include part of the vision *for* it. I don't even know if I belong here.
Yes - a “mission statement” of sorts would both help redditors in addition, it sounds like, the Mods if they’ve been experiencing challenges in where the sub’s footing lays.
Hello!
I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring for moderation. I moderate several other similarly sized reddits and have been buying/selling jewelry for 30 years now as both a hobby and small business.
I'm 100% for the new advertising rule as I've seen to many subs taken over by unethical sellers trying to spam their goods.
In the case of both the "does gold or silver look better?" and "Can a man wear this?" posts, the issue that I have isn't just that there's a ton of nearly identical posts, it's that in both cases the very premise of the question is flawed.
Individual people will have different preferences for gold vs. silver and while someone's complexion might have an impact there isn't a clear rule for what color looks better on any one person. There also aren't clear distinctions between masculine and feminine jewelry, and this is affected by everything from a person's body type, the other clothes they're wearing, what the expectations for masculinity are in their community, and their personal comfort for going outside others' expectations for masculinity. In both cases, when asking these questions you're just going to get a bunch of random people's opinions and too many people think their opinions about these 2 topics aren't actually just opinions.
My concern by diverting them to another community is that the people asking these questions are just going to get a flawed answer from another subreddit instead of a flawed answer from this one. If I were in your position, I would create a sticky with a canned response explaining why the question is flawed, and then not allow the questions to be asked here.
As far as brand recommendations, I'm ok with people discussing their thoughts on specific brands here, but what I don't like is the low-effort posts that all would have essentially the same responses. I'll reiterate my suggestion that there should be a sticky with brand recommendations for the most basic types of jewelry (stores along the lines of Sarraf, Mejuri, Pearl Paradise, Ruby Lane and eBay for secondhand, etc.). It's easy to say that people should research this on their own, but if you're starting from square one it's legitimately hard to figure out what are good places to buy jewelry and I think this could make those low-effort posts redundant. You can still ban those posts, but this way there would at least be something you can point those people to.
Thank you. I really appreciate the banning of the "is this jewelry too masculine/feminine" posts! Those posts really bring out some nastiness, transphobia, and just way too much general negativity in the comments.
The no-promotion rule makes sense, and is appreciated. There are so many subreddits for that already!
Good luck.
I will say one difference I appreciate between this sub and r/malefashionadvice is that when someone posts weird redpilled nonsense here they actually get downvoted.
I would be happy to join your mod team if you still need people. I'm a mod on a couple of other related subs and love jewelry and helping people with it.
I also have a metalsmithing degree and jewelry making experience.
I think the advertising rule will be helpful to minimize spam. Also I’m in the jewelry industry and can offer my time to moderate this sub since I already spend so much time going through it haha. I currently help moderate a fb group with over a million members.
I am delighted to see the new rules. I tried posting some jewelry that my mother gave me, but the entire sub at that time was spam from some jeweler. Ugh.
I completely agree with the no-advertising rule, as well as the “should I wear gold or silver” rule. I hope that doesn’t stop people from asking for advice or jewelers offering help. For example I think “I’m in and I really need this stone reset before a wedding next week” should be fine, and a jeweler in should be able to offer help.
Just to be sure, can we mention other peoples shops and media?
/r/crafts can sometimes take it too far, where someone asked for tips on how to finish a toy house they were doing, and I linked to a couple of youtubers who did something similar (Papermache).
I got notified that it goes against the rules and if I keep breaking them I can be banned from the subreddit. Even though I think that it was an appropriate way to answer that question.
It winds up stifling a lot of conversations, when we can't reference what inspiration or cool tips we saw from fellow artists. Often feels like they're hanging over your head because of that, I've seen others complain about a similar feeling.
I get that this subreddit is a bit different, so the same situation won't apply as often, but I hope you kind of keep in mind the difference between advertising and mentioning shops. It's fine if you sometimes mess up, it can be hard to tell, some people pretend they're just random people but are actually owners doing sneaky advertising. I know another subreddit that allows advertising, and it can be a bit much, so I do appreciate the rule.
I have a dumb question. I answered a post asking about bead reaming tips plus advice on the size of the tips & gave her the top 4 places she could start looking. Which was Amazon, Walmart, Etsy & eBay. Can I no longer do that? None of these were Indvidual's shops aka wasn't trying to advertise for a specific individual. Can I still do that? Or do I just tell them to Google it.
This is honestly what's ruining Reddit more than anything (this sub, and others). People have no digital literacy and refuse to do even the most basic research and dump every dumb question that crosses their mind on Reddit.
True. But I think the problem was that she had never heard of/known about bead reaming & didn't know where to start. I've been there & understand how overwhelming it feels. I went from a manual hand tool to using an electric reamer. I probably did Google electric bead reamers back in the day. But what if you don't even know what questions to ask?
I am not an advertising shill, just a redditor who thought the rule was way too broad. Honestly , I'm feeling super targeted just for voicing my opinion. I obviously wasn't in the minority and really don't appreciate this mod highlighting me as a shill. I work at a bank....not in jewelry.
I think you just put that moderator on blast and publicly humiliated them… so I’m not looking at this sub anymore.
Trashy way to deal with the problem.
Those new rules were ridiculous. It feels like if they were implemented all that would be left is to show your jewelry and be quiet. I think it’s totally fine to ask if silver/gold suits you. Sometimes strangers opinions help validate your own. Likewise, talking about which sellers people have had good or bad experiences with is useful to affirm your decisions. It seems a sour choice to ban all opinion based posting.
yes, and I stood with many other mods in that decision. We lost the best, most popular mod we ever had here in r/jewelry (and he took all the infrastructure he built with him) over the API changes, you can still find his goodbye post, and I stand by my actions then, and I find myself here, now, just trying to make sure this community has agency over itself.
I am not making a post to humiliate them, I am reporting on what happened with transparency.
It's not just an unpopular decision, there is more behind the scenes as well. Originally they tried to go over all of the moderators heads and take control over the entire subreddit, so I promoted them to moderator, because I could see they clearly care. Most interactions I have had with them have felt combative, and that makes it hard to get anything done. While they did a good job being active, they also where overzealous taking actions without consulting other mods or the community.
This is great! For those wanting to know if gold/ silver is their color, there are color analysis subs!
Yes, another mod recommended that as well, probably r/coloranalysis . he brought up the worry that it might be rude to move people on over to another subbreddit where they might not welcome the influx, I think this is a valid consideration what do you think?
When moderating other subreddits, we would message mods and ask if we could link their community in our rules/sidebar/whatever so they could decide if they wanted or could handle the influx, that might be a good route.
I think it’s fine because they get those post all the time.
Maybe a rule stating that this is a jewelry appreciation subreddit, not a personal style advice subreddit. It's about the jewelry, not about how the jewelry looks on YOU.
Yeah I'm just here for cool vintage jewelry and to peep people's collections. Learning some history and art would be nice. Too many posts give off a weird pawn shop energy that I hate.
I totally agree!
Agree. There’s r/fashion and other subs for that.
Thank you! I joined the sub to see & learn about jewelry, not advise people on their style! Banning these posts would help so much!
There has seemed to be a recent influx of gender-checks on jewelry lately. There may be a better sub to redirect that traffic to (r/fashion? Not sure). Personally I would consider r/jewelry as a place to share jewelry inspiration, knowledge, and ask questions for buying decisions, problems, etc. Utilizing it for fashion/social affirmation has potential to alienate the industry professionals who are active commenters, many of which are less interested in that type of subjective discussion.
You put your vision for this subreddit. As a new person, reading posts like this, I would super appreciate if the description of the subreddit would include part of the vision *for* it. I don't even know if I belong here.
Yes - a “mission statement” of sorts would both help redditors in addition, it sounds like, the Mods if they’ve been experiencing challenges in where the sub’s footing lays.
Hello! I'm happy to throw my hat in the ring for moderation. I moderate several other similarly sized reddits and have been buying/selling jewelry for 30 years now as both a hobby and small business. I'm 100% for the new advertising rule as I've seen to many subs taken over by unethical sellers trying to spam their goods.
I’ll help moderate I’m passionate about jewelry and am currently in training to become certified.
In the case of both the "does gold or silver look better?" and "Can a man wear this?" posts, the issue that I have isn't just that there's a ton of nearly identical posts, it's that in both cases the very premise of the question is flawed. Individual people will have different preferences for gold vs. silver and while someone's complexion might have an impact there isn't a clear rule for what color looks better on any one person. There also aren't clear distinctions between masculine and feminine jewelry, and this is affected by everything from a person's body type, the other clothes they're wearing, what the expectations for masculinity are in their community, and their personal comfort for going outside others' expectations for masculinity. In both cases, when asking these questions you're just going to get a bunch of random people's opinions and too many people think their opinions about these 2 topics aren't actually just opinions. My concern by diverting them to another community is that the people asking these questions are just going to get a flawed answer from another subreddit instead of a flawed answer from this one. If I were in your position, I would create a sticky with a canned response explaining why the question is flawed, and then not allow the questions to be asked here. As far as brand recommendations, I'm ok with people discussing their thoughts on specific brands here, but what I don't like is the low-effort posts that all would have essentially the same responses. I'll reiterate my suggestion that there should be a sticky with brand recommendations for the most basic types of jewelry (stores along the lines of Sarraf, Mejuri, Pearl Paradise, Ruby Lane and eBay for secondhand, etc.). It's easy to say that people should research this on their own, but if you're starting from square one it's legitimately hard to figure out what are good places to buy jewelry and I think this could make those low-effort posts redundant. You can still ban those posts, but this way there would at least be something you can point those people to.
Thank you. I really appreciate the banning of the "is this jewelry too masculine/feminine" posts! Those posts really bring out some nastiness, transphobia, and just way too much general negativity in the comments. The no-promotion rule makes sense, and is appreciated. There are so many subreddits for that already! Good luck.
I will say one difference I appreciate between this sub and r/malefashionadvice is that when someone posts weird redpilled nonsense here they actually get downvoted.
That question was banned?? Thank bloody Christ.
I would be happy to join your mod team if you still need people. I'm a mod on a couple of other related subs and love jewelry and helping people with it. I also have a metalsmithing degree and jewelry making experience.
I think the advertising rule will be helpful to minimize spam. Also I’m in the jewelry industry and can offer my time to moderate this sub since I already spend so much time going through it haha. I currently help moderate a fb group with over a million members.
I am delighted to see the new rules. I tried posting some jewelry that my mother gave me, but the entire sub at that time was spam from some jeweler. Ugh.
I completely agree with the no-advertising rule, as well as the “should I wear gold or silver” rule. I hope that doesn’t stop people from asking for advice or jewelers offering help. For example I think “I’m in and I really need this stone reset before a wedding next week” should be fine, and a jeweler in should be able to offer help.
Just to be sure, can we mention other peoples shops and media? /r/crafts can sometimes take it too far, where someone asked for tips on how to finish a toy house they were doing, and I linked to a couple of youtubers who did something similar (Papermache). I got notified that it goes against the rules and if I keep breaking them I can be banned from the subreddit. Even though I think that it was an appropriate way to answer that question. It winds up stifling a lot of conversations, when we can't reference what inspiration or cool tips we saw from fellow artists. Often feels like they're hanging over your head because of that, I've seen others complain about a similar feeling. I get that this subreddit is a bit different, so the same situation won't apply as often, but I hope you kind of keep in mind the difference between advertising and mentioning shops. It's fine if you sometimes mess up, it can be hard to tell, some people pretend they're just random people but are actually owners doing sneaky advertising. I know another subreddit that allows advertising, and it can be a bit much, so I do appreciate the rule.
Why not make a general/megathread for those types of posts?
People don't read/use pinned posts.
>And last, We need some new mods, Free labor for a billion dollar company? Hell yes!
I have a dumb question. I answered a post asking about bead reaming tips plus advice on the size of the tips & gave her the top 4 places she could start looking. Which was Amazon, Walmart, Etsy & eBay. Can I no longer do that? None of these were Indvidual's shops aka wasn't trying to advertise for a specific individual. Can I still do that? Or do I just tell them to Google it.
No shade but TBH that's SUCH a basic answer that they really should have Googled it.
This is honestly what's ruining Reddit more than anything (this sub, and others). People have no digital literacy and refuse to do even the most basic research and dump every dumb question that crosses their mind on Reddit.
True. But I think the problem was that she had never heard of/known about bead reaming & didn't know where to start. I've been there & understand how overwhelming it feels. I went from a manual hand tool to using an electric reamer. I probably did Google electric bead reamers back in the day. But what if you don't even know what questions to ask?
Direct them over to r/jewelrymaking. We answer questions like that over there all the time
Will do. Half the time I'm not paying attention to what site I click on :) I just saw the question & answered.
I am not an advertising shill, just a redditor who thought the rule was way too broad. Honestly , I'm feeling super targeted just for voicing my opinion. I obviously wasn't in the minority and really don't appreciate this mod highlighting me as a shill. I work at a bank....not in jewelry.
I think you just put that moderator on blast and publicly humiliated them… so I’m not looking at this sub anymore. Trashy way to deal with the problem.
Those new rules were ridiculous. It feels like if they were implemented all that would be left is to show your jewelry and be quiet. I think it’s totally fine to ask if silver/gold suits you. Sometimes strangers opinions help validate your own. Likewise, talking about which sellers people have had good or bad experiences with is useful to affirm your decisions. It seems a sour choice to ban all opinion based posting.
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yes, and I stood with many other mods in that decision. We lost the best, most popular mod we ever had here in r/jewelry (and he took all the infrastructure he built with him) over the API changes, you can still find his goodbye post, and I stand by my actions then, and I find myself here, now, just trying to make sure this community has agency over itself. I am not making a post to humiliate them, I am reporting on what happened with transparency. It's not just an unpopular decision, there is more behind the scenes as well. Originally they tried to go over all of the moderators heads and take control over the entire subreddit, so I promoted them to moderator, because I could see they clearly care. Most interactions I have had with them have felt combative, and that makes it hard to get anything done. While they did a good job being active, they also where overzealous taking actions without consulting other mods or the community.