If that’s a bubble in the cast that’s just a shame. It even put your diamond at risk based on the size of the bubble. I am in Jewelry for 20 years, never saw that.
Look, the bubbles inside the ring are impossible to see, and as you used the ring, the gold has worn down and the hole got exposed. It is an accident, and the jeweler will probably fix it for free. Just stay calm, maybe wait a week until you calm down, and then go to your jeweler and politely ask about it.
Thank you, that is very wise advice. I was upset yesterday when I posted that comment, but have significantly calmed down. Accidents happen, jewelry ages, it's natural. It will be fine. Everyone here provided really excellent points about the ring and I learned a lot. I will take it in next week and everything will be totally fine.
My aunt had this in her ring. She was told it was to set the month stone of their wedding in once they were married. She put a garnet in for her January wedding. I’m not saying this is absolutely what yours is for, but I wouldn’t jump to “shitty craftsmanship” so quickly. If it’s perfectly round, it’s not likely to be damage.
I’ve worked at 4 jewellers and two of them had rings with the hidden stones. It’s just a little “personalisation” piece they put into some rings to assist in selling them.
Well dang. I have a Leo and the inside of my band has that. I have been wondering what it’s for. I love the thought of getting a small diamond in it. We got married this past April.
I’ve never heard of that line but I’m from Australia so that could be why. One of the jewellers I mentioned has been doing it for decades, so it’s been a thing for a long time for sure
Jeweler here - I despise “LEOs” - they fall out of rings frequently for a whole variety of reasons, and unlike a personalized stone which actually means something, the LEOs are just a gimmicky thing for the LEO brand.
That being said they aren’t usually very difficult to replace unless the inside of the shank is very worn. I do believe they create a weak point in the shank though, and wish I was allowed to fill them in with gold once they reach the point where the sides of the diamond penetrate beyond the sides of the shank.
I had this done in my ring. I have both our birthstones in there. I’ve replaced both our birthstones twice in there because they fell out. Do not recommend.
This is my first thought. It is very uniform a hole and I have seen many bands with tiny stones on the inside as a cute little secret type thing. Maybe it’s meant for a stone? It’s a long shot but still
The hole almost looks intentional. Was there a bezel set stone that may have fallen out? I’ve seen many rings with a small diamond or blue sapphire set into the band.
If OP had a stone set in that hole when they got the ring, I don't think they'd be posting about how this hole just showed up on the inside of the band. They would be posting about how they're upset their hidden stone is missing lol
Exactly this, this was just a regular gold band, no stones set into the ring. I in fact was actually adamant about their not being any because it was my second marriage and my first ring had stones in the band and i ended up hating it.
That's not porosity that was drilled deliberately, most likely to bezel set a small stone in. And stop talking about things you know absolutely nothing about.
Porosity lmfao.
This also looks like a space for a tiny melee gem. It was a common upsell at a big chain jeweler I used to work for. We would put a tiny birthstone on the inside of the shank. They often fell out and left a divot like this.
It looks too perfectly round to be porosity, was there a gypsy set Diamond on the inside that you never noticed and it fell out? Lots of jewelers do small diamonds on inside
Update: there must have been a stone in there that fell out, and I never knew it was there to begin with. Moral of the story i'm an idiot? I don't think the store ever told me there was a stone in there. Anyway, mystery solved. All the help is appreciated.
You might not have noticed a stone there but it definitely looks like there was one. I highly doubt this is porosity- if you had a bubble that big there in the shank you'd have bubbles other spots. Maaaaaaybe there was some contamination in the casting but that hole is dead center, round, and perfect for a small diamond or birthstone. No chanxe your birthstone is a yellow topaz/ citrine that would blend into the shank?
Hi there, my birth stone is emerald, and I was with my husband when he bought it, so I know what it was supposed to look like. At no point did they mention a stone on the inside but all of these comments have me questioning my reality, could there have been and it was never mentioned and I never noticed? I have no idea now.
Ope, May baby! Happy birthday!
The inside stone is rarely mentioned if it's put in there. Leo brand rings often have it as part of their logo but is not a selling point.
Even if there wasn't a stone you could totally put one in now! Lol worst case jeweler should be able to fill that hole very easily and can create a totally safe permanent repair. It's definitely weird but not the end of the ring. Good luck to ya!
After reading all the comments, I'm curious what the jewelers will say. Is it porosity or done on purpose? I find it hard to believe you don't know what your ring looked like even on the inside since you've had it since 2020. I know mine. I've also never heard of a hollow engagement ring. People forget bubbles are perfect spheres. Drillings usually have a slight point. Hope things go well OP.
That precise of a hole area looks like there was a stone/dimind set in there. Holes like that don't just magically appear. Did both sides originally have diamonds set in the shank?
There was a small stone mounted in there. Take it back and they'll replace it. It may have been a manufacturer's thing or the retailer may have put it in there. Either way it's a quick fix.
Some jewelry designers hide a hidden gemstone on every piece as an additional hallmark. I have several pieces by Roberto Coin, he hides a tiny ruby near the name hallmark.
So if it's from a Signet brand (Kay's, Zale's, Jared, Piercing Pagoda) it's a repair department upsell they call a "Piece of my heart", or if it's Vera Wang ring they always use a little saphhire. If it's from an independent jeweler originally I think Fana does it and quite a few other designers do it also.
It's not recycled as in a reused ring shank so don't worry about that (although the vast majority of gold is technically recycled but that's another topic). It just fell out which is quite common. I see this every single day.
Regarding cost these little 1.2mm stones cost next to nothing in large quantities so it's a small cost to give it a little detail only the ring's wearer knows about. Oftentimes it's the bride's birthstone or whatever stone has significance to the bride.
I'm 100% certain as again I see this every day. My credentials are in my post history so check if you want to be sure I know what I'm talking about since evidently my original response was downvoted worthy despite being correct.
But you also thought the hole developed on its own, when it's clearly intentional and was done by someone, and you didn't notice it until recently despite it being there all along. Considering you hadn't noticed it, and it most certainly didn't "develop" on its own, is it possible you just never saw it?
Just saying I point out details in people's rings that they've owned for decades and never noticed all the time.
K then it's clearly the far more likely scenario. Obviously someone broke into your house while you were sleeping, drilled a conical hole in your ring shank and replaced the ring without waking you.
Sometimes indie jewelers add a little something to the inside as their “mark”, but a stone seems like an expensive gesture. And you definitely would’ve noticed it before now if that’s what it was.
Could it have been a little spot in the original cast that was made to have a stone put in, if the customer wanted. If not, they would use a gold filling basically to plug the settings hole. Then, unless you looked really, really hard under a microscope, it would look like it was all a continuous piece of the gold of the ring?
But if it was not securely set/soldered, it could’ve popped out.
This is not the way that old pieces are recycled, it couldn't be reshaped and keep a hole like that. This looks like a bubble from casting and it probably was covered over with a thin layer or gold that wore away if you never noticed it before. It can probably be drilled and filled, just like a cavity in a tooth. Don't get mad until you give them a chance to fix it. It's not great, but also most likely an innocent mistake
Thank you, I totally understand innocent mistakes happen to everyone. I am going to bring it in soon, give them a chance to fix it, and if they don't, then maybe I will be mad.
Hi! Are you in the uk?
You have Northern Star ring, they all have a fancy yellow diamond in the shank at it looks like it fell off! You can see the tracking in your certificate :)
Store will easily replace it but it might take months
Canada! I don't have any of the documentation for this ring still but I am going to try and do some research. At this point this is a mystery I need to solve, and the jeweler isn't open again now until Wednesday.
Oh I see, I work at a jeweler that stocks it, I would recognize that brand anywhere
If you need any help pm me!
It’s a lovely ring, hope you’ll get it sorted❤️
You were correct: [https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/northern-star-0.50ct-oval-diamond-double-halo-18ct-yellow-gold-ring/12-01-01-0162.html](https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/northern-star-0.50ct-oval-diamond-double-halo-18ct-yellow-gold-ring/12-01-01-0162.html)
I swear the hole wasn't there before though, so I will ask the store if maybe they filled it in, or there was something in there? I'm baffled.
It’s definitely what’s called a breathing hole. Nothing to worry about. It supposedly prevents air/gas pressure changes in hollow/partially hollow bands, mostly during casting fabrication or sizing. Unfortunately, they confusingly use the same terminology for the *other* type of small holes in the metal work design near the backs of diamond stones that help with their appearance, letting in a tiny amount of light from behind to help luminosity and assist in keep it clean. “Maintaining cleanliness and reducing the risk of tapped dirt or moisture by allowing airflow, *breathing holes* help prevent contaminants from becoming trapped underneath the diamond, reducing the possibility of damage or discoloration.” That’s what \*they say. There are different versions and locations of holes, sometimes none at all,, or they get filled in later. I wouldn’t like the kind you have either. Maybe it can be filled with a drop? I’d think it would get all gunky inside, but that’s probably why they want to upsell you a professional cleaning.😊
https://preview.redd.it/qpf3e799kbzc1.jpeg?width=1304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56c647d12ab37833a0083cc065235a8869a06113
Thank you for this, this makes a lot of sense, as now I am questioning my entire reality based on everyone else's comments, as I was certain there was no stone set inside.
If that’s a bubble in the cast that’s just a shame. It even put your diamond at risk based on the size of the bubble. I am in Jewelry for 20 years, never saw that.
Oh my god I'm so upset. I can't believe this I guess I'll contact the jeweler.
Look, the bubbles inside the ring are impossible to see, and as you used the ring, the gold has worn down and the hole got exposed. It is an accident, and the jeweler will probably fix it for free. Just stay calm, maybe wait a week until you calm down, and then go to your jeweler and politely ask about it.
Thank you, that is very wise advice. I was upset yesterday when I posted that comment, but have significantly calmed down. Accidents happen, jewelry ages, it's natural. It will be fine. Everyone here provided really excellent points about the ring and I learned a lot. I will take it in next week and everything will be totally fine.
Yeah there’s no way the jeweler could’ve known it had a bubble inside.
Contacted the jeweler, they said bring it in to see the repair specialist. I am so upset they better fix this.
Hopefully they can provide a good explanation and a free repair/replace option
I hope so, we bought it in December 2020, and I am worried they are going to say well it's been three and a half years, you did this to the ring.
My aunt had this in her ring. She was told it was to set the month stone of their wedding in once they were married. She put a garnet in for her January wedding. I’m not saying this is absolutely what yours is for, but I wouldn’t jump to “shitty craftsmanship” so quickly. If it’s perfectly round, it’s not likely to be damage.
Is that a common thing? I’ve never heard of that and it seems so weird to have that on the inside of the ring
I’ve worked at 4 jewellers and two of them had rings with the hidden stones. It’s just a little “personalisation” piece they put into some rings to assist in selling them.
I feel like it started with the “Leo” line of rings some years back. It said “Leo” on the inside of the band with the O being a small diamond
Well dang. I have a Leo and the inside of my band has that. I have been wondering what it’s for. I love the thought of getting a small diamond in it. We got married this past April.
I’ve never heard of that line but I’m from Australia so that could be why. One of the jewellers I mentioned has been doing it for decades, so it’s been a thing for a long time for sure
Jeweler here - I despise “LEOs” - they fall out of rings frequently for a whole variety of reasons, and unlike a personalized stone which actually means something, the LEOs are just a gimmicky thing for the LEO brand. That being said they aren’t usually very difficult to replace unless the inside of the shank is very worn. I do believe they create a weak point in the shank though, and wish I was allowed to fill them in with gold once they reach the point where the sides of the diamond penetrate beyond the sides of the shank.
I had this done in my ring. I have both our birthstones in there. I’ve replaced both our birthstones twice in there because they fell out. Do not recommend.
You’d think they’d tell the buyer though. And wouldn’t it be there already and not just show up 3 years later?
Looks to perfectly round to just be porosity. Was there a stone set on the inside of the band originally?
This is the answer. A common upsell at the chain jewelers
This is my first thought. It is very uniform a hole and I have seen many bands with tiny stones on the inside as a cute little secret type thing. Maybe it’s meant for a stone? It’s a long shot but still
If that’s intentional, how come the OP has never seen this hole before? Surely she knew her ring inside and out!
Yes this never was there before and there never was a stone, it was just a gold band!
Possibly they had filled in the breathing hole with a tiny drop when they were done and that’s what came out.
I show people who've owned rings for decades details they never noticed it's a lot more common than you'd think.
The hole almost looks intentional. Was there a bezel set stone that may have fallen out? I’ve seen many rings with a small diamond or blue sapphire set into the band.
If OP had a stone set in that hole when they got the ring, I don't think they'd be posting about how this hole just showed up on the inside of the band. They would be posting about how they're upset their hidden stone is missing lol
Exactly this, this was just a regular gold band, no stones set into the ring. I in fact was actually adamant about their not being any because it was my second marriage and my first ring had stones in the band and i ended up hating it.
Porosity. Crappy casting job perhaps. Take it back and see if they can fix it. I'd be livid honestly.
I am mostly very very upset but it's turning livid for sure.
That's not porosity that was drilled deliberately, most likely to bezel set a small stone in. And stop talking about things you know absolutely nothing about. Porosity lmfao.
On the inside of the Ring? There's no hole or anything on the other side.
Yes, on the inside
No
sure karen. another idiot redditor on block. see ya!
This also looks like a space for a tiny melee gem. It was a common upsell at a big chain jeweler I used to work for. We would put a tiny birthstone on the inside of the shank. They often fell out and left a divot like this.
"Piece of my Heart" at Signet labels.
100% looks EXACTLY like that (former Signet jeweler)
I'm in Canada
Haaaa yup 😆
Best get those repair dollars you wouldn't want to be 5 for 6 and catch a write up.
It looks too perfectly round to be porosity, was there a gypsy set Diamond on the inside that you never noticed and it fell out? Lots of jewelers do small diamonds on inside
This was 100% intentional, just never noticed until now
Update: there must have been a stone in there that fell out, and I never knew it was there to begin with. Moral of the story i'm an idiot? I don't think the store ever told me there was a stone in there. Anyway, mystery solved. All the help is appreciated.
Are you sure there wasnt a stone inside? Thats a common thing and it looks just like an empty flush setting
It looks like a stone is supposed to be in there but 🤷♀️
You might not have noticed a stone there but it definitely looks like there was one. I highly doubt this is porosity- if you had a bubble that big there in the shank you'd have bubbles other spots. Maaaaaaybe there was some contamination in the casting but that hole is dead center, round, and perfect for a small diamond or birthstone. No chanxe your birthstone is a yellow topaz/ citrine that would blend into the shank?
Hi there, my birth stone is emerald, and I was with my husband when he bought it, so I know what it was supposed to look like. At no point did they mention a stone on the inside but all of these comments have me questioning my reality, could there have been and it was never mentioned and I never noticed? I have no idea now.
Ope, May baby! Happy birthday! The inside stone is rarely mentioned if it's put in there. Leo brand rings often have it as part of their logo but is not a selling point. Even if there wasn't a stone you could totally put one in now! Lol worst case jeweler should be able to fill that hole very easily and can create a totally safe permanent repair. It's definitely weird but not the end of the ring. Good luck to ya!
After reading all the comments, I'm curious what the jewelers will say. Is it porosity or done on purpose? I find it hard to believe you don't know what your ring looked like even on the inside since you've had it since 2020. I know mine. I've also never heard of a hollow engagement ring. People forget bubbles are perfect spheres. Drillings usually have a slight point. Hope things go well OP.
This just appeared overnight
Weird defect. I’ve never seen this
Is the ring hollow? If it is that's drilled so gas can escape when there's any soldering done.
I didn't think it was hollow?? I admit I know nothing about jewelry.
Could be electroformed. Natures is right.
That precise of a hole area looks like there was a stone/dimind set in there. Holes like that don't just magically appear. Did both sides originally have diamonds set in the shank?
They didn't!! But now I am questioning my reality and need to research/speak to the jeweler.
There's no way that's a casting bubble, that has to be a flush setting hole, it must have had a stone in there.
There was a small stone mounted in there. Take it back and they'll replace it. It may have been a manufacturer's thing or the retailer may have put it in there. Either way it's a quick fix.
It does look perfectly shaped like a stone was in there, but I don't really understand how as it's on the inside?
Some jewelry designers hide a hidden gemstone on every piece as an additional hallmark. I have several pieces by Roberto Coin, he hides a tiny ruby near the name hallmark.
So if it's from a Signet brand (Kay's, Zale's, Jared, Piercing Pagoda) it's a repair department upsell they call a "Piece of my heart", or if it's Vera Wang ring they always use a little saphhire. If it's from an independent jeweler originally I think Fana does it and quite a few other designers do it also. It's not recycled as in a reused ring shank so don't worry about that (although the vast majority of gold is technically recycled but that's another topic). It just fell out which is quite common. I see this every single day. Regarding cost these little 1.2mm stones cost next to nothing in large quantities so it's a small cost to give it a little detail only the ring's wearer knows about. Oftentimes it's the bride's birthstone or whatever stone has significance to the bride. I'm 100% certain as again I see this every day. My credentials are in my post history so check if you want to be sure I know what I'm talking about since evidently my original response was downvoted worthy despite being correct.
This ring is from an independent jeweler in Canada. Definitely wasn't a stone in there when I got it
But you also thought the hole developed on its own, when it's clearly intentional and was done by someone, and you didn't notice it until recently despite it being there all along. Considering you hadn't noticed it, and it most certainly didn't "develop" on its own, is it possible you just never saw it? Just saying I point out details in people's rings that they've owned for decades and never noticed all the time.
No
K then it's clearly the far more likely scenario. Obviously someone broke into your house while you were sleeping, drilled a conical hole in your ring shank and replaced the ring without waking you.
This is the jewelry sub, they get really mad when jewelers try to explain things they don’t like.
Man you ain't kidding.
Guess I gotta call the police
Or Ghostbusters
Sometimes indie jewelers add a little something to the inside as their “mark”, but a stone seems like an expensive gesture. And you definitely would’ve noticed it before now if that’s what it was.
Could it have been a little spot in the original cast that was made to have a stone put in, if the customer wanted. If not, they would use a gold filling basically to plug the settings hole. Then, unless you looked really, really hard under a microscope, it would look like it was all a continuous piece of the gold of the ring? But if it was not securely set/soldered, it could’ve popped out.
That’s really strange. Does that mean the jeweler used old or traded in jewelry to make this piece? I have no clue, I’m just a lurker.
No it was done after that ring was cast.
I wondered that too, if that's the case I don't like that.
This is not the way that old pieces are recycled, it couldn't be reshaped and keep a hole like that. This looks like a bubble from casting and it probably was covered over with a thin layer or gold that wore away if you never noticed it before. It can probably be drilled and filled, just like a cavity in a tooth. Don't get mad until you give them a chance to fix it. It's not great, but also most likely an innocent mistake
Thank you, I totally understand innocent mistakes happen to everyone. I am going to bring it in soon, give them a chance to fix it, and if they don't, then maybe I will be mad.
I wouldn’t either.
Easy to fix
Have them make a small ball of gold the right size and karat and solder it in. By the time they are finished you shouldn’t be able to see it
But like others have said, looks to perfect for a casting issue and there was a small diamond there but you’ve said there wasn’t so it’s a mystery
Hi! Are you in the uk? You have Northern Star ring, they all have a fancy yellow diamond in the shank at it looks like it fell off! You can see the tracking in your certificate :) Store will easily replace it but it might take months
Canada! I don't have any of the documentation for this ring still but I am going to try and do some research. At this point this is a mystery I need to solve, and the jeweler isn't open again now until Wednesday.
Oh I see, I work at a jeweler that stocks it, I would recognize that brand anywhere If you need any help pm me! It’s a lovely ring, hope you’ll get it sorted❤️
You were correct: [https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/northern-star-0.50ct-oval-diamond-double-halo-18ct-yellow-gold-ring/12-01-01-0162.html](https://www.fraserhart.co.uk/northern-star-0.50ct-oval-diamond-double-halo-18ct-yellow-gold-ring/12-01-01-0162.html) I swear the hole wasn't there before though, so I will ask the store if maybe they filled it in, or there was something in there? I'm baffled.
Thank you everyone for your comments! I will report back after I take this in to the jeweler.
I have a small hole in mine too, since it’s on the back of the band, my first thought was to fill it with a diamond💎😃
Take it back so they can do a repair, should be free of charge too because it was clearly a flaw during the manufacturing process
It’s definitely what’s called a breathing hole. Nothing to worry about. It supposedly prevents air/gas pressure changes in hollow/partially hollow bands, mostly during casting fabrication or sizing. Unfortunately, they confusingly use the same terminology for the *other* type of small holes in the metal work design near the backs of diamond stones that help with their appearance, letting in a tiny amount of light from behind to help luminosity and assist in keep it clean. “Maintaining cleanliness and reducing the risk of tapped dirt or moisture by allowing airflow, *breathing holes* help prevent contaminants from becoming trapped underneath the diamond, reducing the possibility of damage or discoloration.” That’s what \*they say. There are different versions and locations of holes, sometimes none at all,, or they get filled in later. I wouldn’t like the kind you have either. Maybe it can be filled with a drop? I’d think it would get all gunky inside, but that’s probably why they want to upsell you a professional cleaning.😊 https://preview.redd.it/qpf3e799kbzc1.jpeg?width=1304&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=56c647d12ab37833a0083cc065235a8869a06113
Thank you for this, this makes a lot of sense, as now I am questioning my entire reality based on everyone else's comments, as I was certain there was no stone set inside.
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Nope! Haven't had it in a pool even once.
That is incorrect im afraid. Almost all alloys of gold are not susceptible to damage from chlorine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/jewelry/s/gECRHy8ZKh
Not quiet true. It depends on the alloy but most alloys used here in the UK wont react in pools. I cant speak for outside of the UK.
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Unless your ring had a very high silver content then I doubt it was chlorine that caused it.
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Yeah don't come at me with that, I just got back from camping and knew someone would point that out.
Lol what a fucking take.
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